Let’s Fight Some Fascists (w/ Astra Taylor and Mark Bray)
Aaron, Matt, and Jonathan are joined by authors Astra Taylor and Mark Bray for a big picture conversation about what it means to fight fascism in this historical moment.

A protester holds a ‘Fight fascism’ placard depicting Donald Trump and Adolf Hitler during a demonstration in London.
(Vuk Valcic / SOPA Images / LightRocket via Getty Images)Aaron, Matt, and Jonathan are joined by Astra Taylor, author of End Times Fascism, and Mark Bray, author of Antifa: The Anti-Fascist Handbook, for a big picture conversation about what it means to fight fascism in this historical moment. Topics include popular resistance to ICE, tensions between “radical” and “normie” mobilization, how much we all hate AI, and why it shouldn’t actually be that hard to build a majoritarian coalition around the idea that like 25 creepy pedophiles shouldn’t own literally everything on the planet.
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Minnesota changed everything: how Minnesota’s resistance to ICE provides a model and inspiration for a national pro-democracy movement. Deepak Bhargava will explains; he’s president of the Freedom Together Foundation.
Also: July 4 will mark the 250th anniversary of the United States, which Trump is celebrating with a campaign to “eliminate” what he calls “divisive anti-American ideology” from American’s historic sites, national parks, and the National Zoo. Historian Beverly Gage has another idea – a road trip to visit some of those places where history happened. Her new book is This Land is Your Land: A Road Trip Through US History.
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