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Start Making Sense is The Nation’s flagship weekly podcast, hosted by contributing editor Jon Wiener, featuring the magazine’s writers and editors as well as activists who shape the week in news. Subscribe at Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts, for new episodes each Wednesday.

Jimmy Kimmel at The Walt Disney Company’s 77th Emmy Awards Party on September 14, 2025, in Los Angeles.

How We Defeated Trump on Jimmy Kimmel—Plus, the Attacks on Harvard, Past and Present How We Defeated Trump on Jimmy Kimmel—Plus, the Attacks on Harvard, Past and Present

On Start Making Sense: Bhaskar Sunkara analyzes the resistance to Trump’s attacks on freedom of speech, and Beverly Gage talks about Anti-intellectualism in American Life.

Sep 24, 2025 / Podcast / Jon Wiener

JD Vance hosts a podcast episode of Charlie Kirk’s show at the White House on September 15, 2025.

Good News for Dems—Plus, Fascists and Teachers Good News for Dems—Plus, Fascists and Teachers

On this episode of Start Making Sense: John Nichols on recent special elections, and Randi Weingarten on Why Fascists Fear Teachers.

Sep 17, 2025 / Podcast / Jon Wiener

A pedestrian wears a “Make America Great Again” hat outside the US Supreme Court Building in Washington, DC.

Trump’s Really Bad Week in Court—Plus, the New Film by China’s Top Director Trump’s Really Bad Week in Court—Plus, the New Film by China’s Top Director

On this episode of Start Making Sense, Erwin Chemerinsky on Trump losing four big cases, and John Powers on Caught by the Tides.

Sep 10, 2025 / Podcast / Jon Wiener

Here Comes the Sun—Plus, “Our Fragile Freedoms”

Here Comes the Sun—Plus, “Our Fragile Freedoms” Here Comes the Sun—Plus, “Our Fragile Freedoms”

On this episode of Start Making Sense, Bill McKibben explains why solar power makes him optimistic, and Eric Foner talks about Trump and history.

Sep 3, 2025 / Podcast / Jon Wiener

Members of the National Guard from multiple states patrol the National Mall, Washington, DC, on August 25, 2025.

Trump’s National Guard Strategy—Plus, the Secret Behind “Huckleberry Finn” Trump’s National Guard Strategy—Plus, the Secret Behind “Huckleberry Finn”

On this episode of Start Making Sense, John Nichols on the military in the cities, and Adam Hochschild on Mark Twain.

Aug 27, 2025 / Podcast / Jon Wiener

Zohran Mamdani attends a campaign canvass relaunch event in Prospect Park, Brooklyn.

The Mamdani Interview—Plus, Trump in Court The Mamdani Interview—Plus, Trump in Court

On Start Making Sense: Katrina vanden Heuvel and John Nichols break down their exclusive chat, and David Cole talks about the president's lawfare tactics.

Aug 20, 2025 / Podcast / Jon Wiener

This 1943 photo shows a boat carrying people during the escape across the Oresound of some of 7,000 Danish Jews who fled to safety in neighboring Sweden as Denmark three years after the German Nazi invasion.

Danish Resistance to Fascism, and Ours Today—Plus, Trump vs. UCLA Danish Resistance to Fascism, and Ours Today—Plus, Trump vs. UCLA

On Start Making Sense: Sarah Sophie Flicker finds lessons for us in the Danes’ refusal to cooperate with Hitler, and historian David Myers on Trump’s $1 billion fine against UCLA....

Aug 13, 2025 / Podcast / Jon Wiener

The Late Show with Stephen Colbert and guest former secretary of labor Robert Reich during the Monday, August 4, 2025 show.

Katrina vanden Heuvel on Where We’re Going, and Robert Reich on How We Got Here Katrina vanden Heuvel on Where We’re Going, and Robert Reich on How We Got Here

On Start Making Sense: The Nation’s editor on our tasks now, and the Berkeley economist on understanding our historic mistakes.

Aug 6, 2025 / Podcast / Jon Wiener

Kamala Harris pauses as she speaks at the Emerge 20th Anniversary Gala in San Francisco, California, on April 30, 2025.

Dems Who Didn’t Vote in 2024—Plus, Mussolini and Trump Dems Who Didn’t Vote in 2024—Plus, Mussolini and Trump

On this episode of Start Making Sense, Celinda Lake on Biden voters who didn’t vote for Harris, and John Powers on a novel about the rise of Mussolini.

Jul 30, 2025 / Podcast / Jon Wiener

Federal agents block people protesting an ICE immigration raid at a nearby licensed cannabis farm on July 10, 2025, near Camarillo, California.

How the Courts Blocked ICE’s Racial Profiling—Plus, How Organizers Succeed How the Courts Blocked ICE’s Racial Profiling—Plus, How Organizers Succeed

On this episode of Start Making Sense, Mark Rosenbaum on the injunction in LA, and Michael Ansara on The Hard Work of Hope.

Jul 23, 2025 / Podcast / Jon Wiener

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