Podcast / Tech Won’t Save Us / Oct 15, 2026

Taking Data Centers to Court—With Martha Dark

Paris Marx is joined by Martha Dark to discuss how legal challenges are holding data centers accountable, strengthening oversight, and challenging Big Tech’s narratives.

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Taking Data Centers to Court w/ Martha Dark / Tech Won’t Save Us
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Data centers are being approved without proper oversight into their broader impacts, but there are organizations pushing back. Martha Dark joins Paris Marx to discuss her work at Foxglove and how legal challenges against data centers are imposing stronger rules and reframing false narratives from policymakers and Big Tech.

Martha Dark is co-executive director of Foxglove.

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Data centers are being approved without proper oversight into their broader impacts, but there are organizations pushing back. Martha Dark joins Paris Marx to discuss her work at Foxglove and how legal challenges against data centers are imposing stronger rules and reframing false narratives from policymakers and Big Tech.

Martha Dark is co-executive director of Foxglove.

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Here's where to find podcasts from The Nation. Political talk without the boring parts, featuring the writers, activists and artists who shape the news, from a progressive perspective.

Taking Data Centers to Court w/ Martha Dark / Tech Won’t Save Us
byThe Nation Magazine

Data centers are being approved without proper oversight into their broader impacts, but there are organizations pushing back. Martha Dark joins Paris Marx to discuss her work at Foxglove and how legal challenges against data centers are imposing stronger rules and reframing false narratives from policymakers and Big Tech.

Martha Dark is co-executive director of Foxglove.

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