Podcast / American Prestige / Feb 25, 2026

On the Brink With Iran—Featuring Dalia Dassa Kaye

Derek and Danny are joined by Dalia Dassa Kaye to talk about the decades-long hostility between the US and Iran and the current escalation between the two countries.

The Nation Podcasts
The Nation Podcasts

Here's where to find podcasts from The Nation. Political talk without the boring parts, featuring the writers, activists and artists who shape the news, from a progressive perspective.

On the Brink with Iran w/ Dalia Dassa Kaye | American Prestige
byThe Nation Magazine

Derek and Danny are joined by Dalia Dassa Kaye to talk about the decades-long hostility between the U.S. and Iran and the current escalation between the two countries. They talk about the odds of war and the absence of clear objectives; talk of “regime change”; the legacy of the hostage crisis and the Iran-Contra hangover; the domestic incentives that make diplomacy “too costly”; the post-9/11 opportunity to mend relations and how it collapsed after the “Axis of Evil” speech; how U.S. leaders frame Iran as uniquely fanatical and unchangeable; and how Israel’s interests and domestic U.S. politics constrain policy change.

Read Dalia’s book Enduring Hostility: The Making of America's Iran Policy.

Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Anti riot police stand in front of state building that is covered with a giant anti-U.S. billboard.

(Majid Saeed / Getty Images)

Derek and Danny are joined by Dalia Dassa Kaye to talk about the decades-long hostility between the United States and Iran and the current escalation between the two countries.

They talk about the odds of war and the absence of clear objectives; talk of “regime change”; the legacy of the hostage crisis and the Iran-Contra hangover; the domestic incentives that make diplomacy “too costly”; the post-9/11 opportunity to mend relations and how it collapsed after the “Axis of Evil” speech; how US leaders frame Iran as uniquely fanatical and unchangeable; and how Israel’s interests and domestic US politics constrain policy change. Read Dalia’s book Enduring Hostility: The Making of America’s Iran Policy.

Subscribe to The Nation to support all of our podcasts: thenation.com/podcastsubscribe.

The Nation Podcasts
The Nation Podcasts

Here's where to find podcasts from The Nation. Political talk without the boring parts, featuring the writers, activists and artists who shape the news, from a progressive perspective.

The Party of Chaos w/ Paul Heideman | American Prestige
byThe Nation Magazine

Danny and Derek welcome to the show writer Paul Heideman to talk about the transformation of the Republican Party from the main party of business interests to a fragmented, personality-driven coalition. They discuss the historical relationship between Republicans and capital, the disorganization of American employers, the political economy of the 1970s crisis, Reagan-era fragmentation, Gingrich and fundraising, globalization and bipartisan neoliberalism in the 1990s, the Koch network and Tea Party, Republicanism after Romney, the conditions that enabled Trump’s rise, and much more.

Read Paul’s book Rogue Elephant: How Republicans Went from the Party of Business to the Party of Chaos.

Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Subscribe to The Nation to Support all of our podcasts

Daniel Bessner

Daniel Bessner is an historian of US foreign relations, and cohost of American Prestige, a podcast on international affairs.

Derek Davison

Derek Davison is a writer and analyst specializing in international affairs and US foreign policy. He is the publisher of the Foreign Exchanges newsletter, cohost of the American Prestige podcast, and former editor of LobeLog.

More from The Nation

Cybertrucks Are a Safety Disaster—With Dara Kerr

Cybertrucks Are a Safety Disaster—With Dara Kerr Cybertrucks Are a Safety Disaster—With Dara Kerr

Paris Marx and Dara Kerr discuss how Elon’s prioritization of aesthetics over safety created a safety crisis, causing people to burn alive in their Cybertrucks.

Paris Marx

Protesters hold a “No Kings” flag as they take part in the rally and march on March 28, 2026, in Washington, DC.

Rebecca Solnit on Long-Term Strategy—Plus, Resisting ICE in Small-Town America Rebecca Solnit on Long-Term Strategy—Plus, Resisting ICE in Small-Town America

Podcast / Start Making Sense / Feb 25, 2026 On the Brink With Iran—Featuring Dalia Dassa Kaye On this episode of Start Making Sense, Rebecca Solnit argues for understanding c…

Podcast / Start Making Sense

US President Donald Trump welcomes Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to his Mar-a-Lago club on December 29, 2025, in Palm Beach, Florida.

America, Israel, and the Jews (With David Klion) America, Israel, and the Jews (With David Klion)

Aaron and Matt are joined by Nation columnist David Klion to talk about the role that Israel has played in the rise of American fascism.

President Donald Trump pauses as he finishes speaking about the Iran war from the Cross Hall of the White House on Wednesday, April 1, 2026.

The Party of Chaos—With Paul Heideman The Party of Chaos—With Paul Heideman

Danny and Derek welcome writer Paul Heideman to talk about the shift of the Republican Party from the party of business interests to a fragmented, personality-driven coalition

Daniel Bessner and Derek Davison

An AI-generated video of London in decline, shared on the social media site X.

Take a Break From the Feed—With Amanda Mull Take a Break From the Feed—With Amanda Mull

Paris Marx talks with Amanda Mull to discuss the effects of constantly “monitoring the situation,” including spiking anxiety and disconnection, and what can be done to recalibrate...

Paris Marx

A protester holds a “FIGHT FASCISM” placard depicting Donald Trump and Adolf Hitler, during a demonstration in London.

Let’s Fight Some Fascists (With Astra Taylor and Mark Bray)  Let’s Fight Some Fascists (With Astra Taylor and Mark Bray) 

Aaron, Matt, and Jonathan are joined by authors Astra Taylor and Mark Bray for a big-picture conversation about what it means to fight fascism in this historical moment.

x