On this episode of Start Making Sense, David Cole talks about citizens defending the Constitution, and Rick Perlstein comments on Republican plans for the second Trump term.
Republican presidential nominee former president Donald Trump dances during a campaign rally.(Rebecca Noble / Getty Images)
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“Our worst enemy right now is not Trump himself, but fatalism about our ability to stop him.” That’s what David Cole says – he recently stepped down as National Legal Director of the ACLU, after 8 years and hundreds of lawsuits against the first Trump administration.
Also: Project 2025,the Heritage Foundation’s famous 900 page book, is partly “"too dumb to accomplish anything at all”–that’s what Rick Perlstein says. The rest, he says, can be read as a useful catalog of how we should focus our resistance.
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“Our worst enemy right now is not Trump himself but fatalism about our ability to stop him”—that’s what David Cole says on this episode of Start Making Sense. Cole recently stepped down as national legal director of the ACLU, after eight years and hundreds of lawsuits against the first Trump administration.
Also on this episode: Project 2025—The Heritage Foundation’s famous 900-page book—is partly “too dumb to accomplish anything at all,” according to our guest, Rick Perlstein. The rest, he says, can be read as a useful catalog of how we should focus our resistance.
Here's where to find podcasts from The Nation. Political talk without the boring parts, featuring the writers, activists and artists who shape the news, from a progressive perspective.
Is the resistance to data centers a new kind of mass politics? David Wallace-Wells explains why the answer is “yes.” He’s a writer for The New York Times Opinion pages and author of the unforgettable book “The Uninhabitable Earth.”
Also: How to be a dissident in an age of fear – Ami Fields-Meyer has thought a lot about that. For starters: don’t start from scratch; don’t try to do it alone. Ami is co-author of the new book “On Courage.”
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Jon WienerTwitterJon Wiener is a contributing editor of The Nation and co-author (with Mike Davis) of Set the Night on Fire: L.A. in the Sixties.