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The Polls and Us—Plus, How a Dem Wins in a Red District

On this episode of Start Making Sense, Rick Perlstein on polls and Marc Cooper on Representative Gleusenkamp Perez's campaign in Washington.

Jon Wiener

October 9, 2024

Representative Marie Gluesenkamp Perez (D-WA) participates in the Bipartisan Defending Borders, Defending Democracies Act news conference in the US Capitol on Wednesday, March 6, 2024.(Bill Clark / CQ-Roll Call, Inc via Getty Images)

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The Polls–and Us; plus How A Dem Wins in a Red District | Start Making Sense
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The polls have had disastrous failures for decades, but people continue to focus on them; Rick Perlstein has a better idea: ‘don’t follow polls—organize.’

Also: Democrat Marie Gleusenkamp Perez won a House seat in a Trump district, pointing the way for others. Marc Cooper analyzes her current reelection campaign in southwestern Washington State, starting from the fact that she’s a working class woman in a rural area.

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The polls have had disastrous failures for decades, but people continue to focus on them. Rick Perlstein has a better idea: “Don’t follow polls—organize.” He’s on the podcast to discuss.

Also on this episode: Democrat Marie Gleusenkamp Perez won a House seat in a Trump district, pointing the way for others. Marc Cooper joins Start Making Sense to analyze her current reelection campaign in southwestern Washington State, starting from the fact that she’s a working-class woman in a rural area.

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Rebecca Solnit on Long Term Strategy, plus Resisting ICE in Small Town America / Start Making Sense
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It’s been only a couple of weeks since the No Kings 3 protests, but we can see now how protest and resistance are changing in America: that one it wasn't just bigger than the previous No Kings. It was different: Deeper and more connected. Rebecca Solnit argues that to understand resistance and change today, we need a much longer perspective than a couple of years. Her new book is The Beginning Comes After the End.

Also: Minneapolis made history with its mobilization against ICE. But what about the rest of the state, where the immigrant population has been growing for a couple of decades? What kind of resistance has developed there? Emma Janssen went to small town Minnesota to find out. She’s a writing fellow at The American Prospect.  

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Jon WienerTwitterJon Wiener is a contributing editor of The Nation and co-author (with Mike Davis) of Set the Night on Fire: L.A. in the Sixties.


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