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Sherrod Brown: Winning Back the Working Class— Plus, “The Tide Is Turning”

On this episode of Start Making Sense, the former Ohio senator talks politics, and Dahlia Lithwick argues that Trump is failing in the courts, and also with the public.

Jon Wiener

May 7, 2025

US Senator Sherrod Brown (D-OH) talks with voters during a campaign stop at Rainbow Bakery, a Puerto Rican–owned and –operated grocery store in Lorain, Ohio, on October 30, 2024.(Jeff Swensen / Getty Images)

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Sherrod Brown: Winning Back the Working Class, plus ‘the Tide is Turning’ | Start Making Sense
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After serving 18 years in the Senate, and losing last November, Sherrod Brown analyzes what it will take for Democrats to recover from the defeats of 2024, and comments on his own political future – he could run for senator or for governor in 2026.

Also on this episode: Dahlia Lithwick explains three key court cases where Trump suffered major defeats, which, she argues, are likely to have an “exponential effect” on other judges. Meanwhile we are seeing a rising tide of activism in the streets. Dahlia writes about the law and the courts for Slate and hosts the ‘Amicus’ podcast.

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After serving 18 years in the Senate, and losing last November, Sherrod Brown analyzes what it will take for Democrats to recover from the defeats of 2024; and he comments on his own political future—he could run for senator or for governor in 2026.

Also on this episode: Dahlia Lithwick explains three key court cases where Trump suffered major defeats, which, she argues, are likely to have an “exponential effect” on other judges. Meanwhile we are seeing a rising tide of activism in the streets. Dahlia writes about the law and the courts for Slate and hosts the Amicus podcast.

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The Plan for November—and After / Start Making Sense
byThe Nation Magazine

How are we going to defeat Trump and the Republicans and win control of Congress in the midterms? How are we going to win the White House in two years? Ben Wikler has a plan – he’s published a book with the title This is the Plan. Ben was chair of the Democratic Party of Wisconsin for six years, ending in 2025, where he shaped what became the most powerful and effective state political party in the country.

Plus: John Nichols on the Senate Candidates in Maine and Nebraska, and the governor’s race in Wisconsin. John of course is executive editor of The Nation.

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Jon WienerTwitterJon Wiener is a contributing editor of The Nation and co-author (with Mike Davis) of Set the Night on Fire: L.A. in the Sixties.


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