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Rebecca Solnit on Hope in the Dark—Plus the Musk Bromance

On this episode of Start Making Sense, what it means to have hope, and why the bromance between Trump and the world’s richest man cannot last.

Jon Wiener

November 13, 2024

Elon Musk embraces Republican presidential nominee former president Donald Trump during a campaign rally at the Butler Farm Show fairgrounds on October 5, 2024, in Butler, Pennsylvania.(Anna Moneymaker / Getty Images)

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Rebecca Solnit on Hope in the Dark; plus the Trump-Musk Bromance | Start Making Sense
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Hope does not mean saying ‘this is not bad,’ Rebecca Solnit argues; it just means we will not give up—because we know that what we do matters, and we also know we’ve been surprised by good things we never expected.

Also: The bromance between Elon Musk and Donald Trump cannot last – historian David Nasaw will explain why.

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Hope does not mean saying “this is not bad,” Rebecca Solnit argues; it just means we will not give up, because we know that what we do matters, and we also know we’ve been surprised by good things we never expected.

Also on this episode of Start Making Sense: The bromance between Elon Musk and Donald Trump cannot last—historian David Nasaw explains why.

The Nation Podcasts

Here's where to find podcasts from The Nation. Political talk without the boring parts, featuring the writers, activists and artists who shape the news, from a progressive perspective.

Anti-Fascist Economics w/ Isabella Weber / Fighting Fascism
byThe Nation Magazine

Dr. Isabella Weber’s new book is called Anti-Fascist Economics. As a native of Nuremberg, where the Nazis staged their famous mass rallies, there’s another term she also uses: the economics of “never again.”

We think this book is such an important intervention in the world right now. So we were thrilled to have Isabella on the show to discuss why the rise of today's authoritarian movements is not an accident, but is rooted in an economic order that has treated regular people as expendable while elevating markets above democratic choice.

In the face of rising costs, what if we didn’t take the primacy of corporate profits and market fundamentalism as a given? What if, instead, we said, “Let’s do something about this! Let’s take on the corporate profiteering and stabilize the price of essential goods and actually use government to help people so they don’t elect a bunch of fucking fascists!”

If you care about democracy, you should read Isabella’s book. And you should definitely check out this episode.

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Jon WienerTwitterJon Wiener is a contributing editor of The Nation and co-author (with Mike Davis) of Set the Night on Fire: L.A. in the Sixties.


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