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Rebecca Solnit on Hope in the Dark—Plus the Musk Bromance

On this episode of Start Making Sense, what it means to have hope, and why the bromance between Trump and the world’s richest man cannot last.

Jon Wiener

November 13, 2024

Elon Musk embraces Republican presidential nominee former president Donald Trump during a campaign rally at the Butler Farm Show fairgrounds on October 5, 2024, in Butler, Pennsylvania.(Anna Moneymaker / Getty Images)

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Rebecca Solnit on Hope in the Dark; plus the Trump-Musk Bromance | Start Making Sense
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Hope does not mean saying ‘this is not bad,’ Rebecca Solnit argues; it just means we will not give up—because we know that what we do matters, and we also know we’ve been surprised by good things we never expected.

Also: The bromance between Elon Musk and Donald Trump cannot last – historian David Nasaw will explain why.

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Hope does not mean saying “this is not bad,” Rebecca Solnit argues; it just means we will not give up, because we know that what we do matters, and we also know we’ve been surprised by good things we never expected.

Also on this episode of Start Making Sense: The bromance between Elon Musk and Donald Trump cannot last—historian David Nasaw explains why.

The Nation Podcasts

Here's where to find podcasts from The Nation. Political talk without the boring parts, featuring the writers, activists and artists who shape the news, from a progressive perspective.

Borderlands w/ Ken Salazar / Fighting Fascism
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This one’s a little different. Aaron, Matt, and Jonathan talk with Ken Salazar—former US Senator from Colorado, Secretary of the Interior under Obama, and Ambassador to Mexico under Biden—about why Democrats need to rethink their approach to the US-Mexico border and start treating immigration not as a liability to be managed, but a genuine opportunity to be seized. We also discuss the politics of Mexico and Ken’s experiences with AMLO, Mexico’s former insanely popular populist president, and Claudia Sheinbaum, Mexico’s current insanely popular populist president. Aaron even tries to get a little feisty with Ken about his climate record, but fails spectacularly due to Ken’s kind grandpa demeanor. Oh well.

Check out Ken Salazar’s new book, Borderlands.

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Jon WienerTwitterJon Wiener is a contributing editor of The Nation and co-author (with Mike Davis) of Set the Night on Fire: L.A. in the Sixties.


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