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(Reuters \/ Saul Loeb \/ Pool)\u0022\u003E\u003Cimg src=\u0022https:\/\/www.thenation.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/second_debate_trump_rtr_img.jpg\u0022 alt=\u0022Second debate Trump Clinton\u0022\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\u003Cp class=\u0022caption\u0022\u003EDonald Trump speaks at the presidential town-hall debate at Washington University in St. Louis on October 9, 2016. \u003Cspan class=\u0022credits\u0022\u003E(Reuters \/ Saul Loeb \/ Pool)\u003C\/span\u003E\u003C\/p\u003E\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\u003C\/aside\u003E\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\u003Cdiv style=\u0022clear:both\u0022\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\u003Cp\u003EThe second presidential debate was preceded by a public handshake of a haunted Bill Clinton and a somber Melania Trump. It began with the two contenders refusing to shake hands. And spiraled down from there. The media will rake over the sordid highlights of a tawdry and ugly exchange. Some reflections.\u003Cspan class=\u0022paranum\u0022\u003E1\u003C\/span\u003E\u003Caside class=\u0022ad right most-popular-plus-ad grey_back\u0022\u003E\n\t\t\t\t\u003Cdiv id=\u0022ad-halfpage-226562-0\u0022 class=\u0022sailthru_class_form\u0022\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\t\t\t\t\u003Ca href=\u0022http:\/\/www.thenation.com\/advertising-policy\u0022 class=\u0022ad-policy\u0022 target=\u0022_blank\u0022\u003EAd Policy\u003C\/a\u003E\n\t\t\t\u003C\/aside\u003E\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\n\u003Ch6\u003EIt\u2019s Over\u003C\/h6\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EWith less than a month before the election and early voting already starting, this race is over. The most insightful comment of the night was from CNN\u2019s Van Jones, arguing that Clinton won because Trump did well in the debate. He held his own, and probably staunched the hemorrhaging of the last weeks. Republicans can\u2019t rid themselves of him and can\u2019t win with him.\u003Cspan class=\u0022paranum\u0022\u003E2\u003C\/span\u003E\t\t\n\u003Ch6\u003E\u201cThis is who Donald Trump is.\u201d\u003C\/h6\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EClinton\u2019s words were cutting and true. Trump dismissed his disgusting sexual boasting as \u201clocker-room talk\u201d which it surely was. But this also is inescapably who he is. He is not fit for the presidency. Full stop. Period.\u003Cspan class=\u0022paranum\u0022\u003E3\u003C\/span\u003E\t\t\n\u003Cp\u003EEarly on, the Clinton campaign made the strategic choice to target Trump personally\u2014his temperament, his ignorance, his vile divisiveness\u2014as the central issue of the campaign. This risked getting into a sty with a pig. In ads, in surrogates, in debates, on the stump, the Clinton campaign is more about how grotesque he is than about her vision or agenda. He provided inexhaustible material for her oppo research. The media joined the hunt. Trump lived down to the part. The result is an ugly and dispiriting campaign, illustrated by the personal exchanges last night. The strategy worked: Trump exhibited just who he is. Clinton will win the election\u003Cspan\u003E\u2014\u003C\/span\u003Ebut without a mandate, without a sense of possibility, without much of the joy that might be expected from election of the first woman president.\u003Cspan class=\u0022paranum\u0022\u003E4\u003C\/span\u003E\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\u003Cstyle\u003E\n\t\t\t\t.article-wrap .article-body aside.left.custom_background_226562\t\t\t\t {\n\t\t\t\t background:none !important;\n\t\t\t\t }\n\t\t\t\t \u003C\/style\u003E\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\u003Cstyle\u003E\n\t\t\t\t.article-wrap .article-body aside.left.custom_background_226562\t\t\t\t {\n\t\t\t\t background:#5000b2 !important;\n\t\t\t\t }\n\t\t\t\t \u003C\/style\u003E\n\t\t\t\t\u003Caside class=\u0022left takeaction indent custom_background_226562\u0022\u003E\n\t\t\t\t\t\u003Cdiv class=\u0022action_tout_heading\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003E\u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan\u003ELIKE THIS? 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Last night\u2019s debate\u2014billed as a town-hall format where voters would ask the questions\u2014was hijacked from the start by the moderators\u2014Anderson Cooper and Martha Raddatz. They immediately went gotcha: Trump\u2019s foul tape was their first question and their second, then e-mails, Wiki leaks on Hillary\u2019s speeches, Trump\u2019s taxes, Hillary\u2019s comment on \u201cdeplorables,\u201d Trump\u2019s tweets. The citizen questions, as one commentator noted, were treated like Lifesavers, used to cleanse the mouth periodically when the goings got too foul. The citizens asked most of the substantive questions of the night: on health care, on taxing the rich, on the Supreme Court, on energy. But when a debate about ideas threatened to break out\u2014on taxes and growth, on health care, on energy policy\u2014the moderators rushed to bring it back to the gutter.\u003Cspan class=\u0022paranum\u0022\u003E5\u003C\/span\u003E\t\t\n\u003Cp\u003ETrump whined repeatedly about their bias, but their bias is less partisan than prurient. Americans tuned in looking for a spitball fight and the moderators were not about to disappoint them.\u003Cspan class=\u0022paranum\u0022\u003E6\u003C\/span\u003E\t\t\n\u003Ch6\u003EThe Choice\u003C\/h6\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EThe brief and rare exchanges on ideas were revealing. Trump repeated his commitment to the failed market fundamentalism of the past\u2014top-end tax cuts, deregulation, market competition to make health care affordable. Clinton reaffirmed her commitment to raising taxes on the top to invest in rebuilding the country. Both reiterated their opposition to our current trade policies. Trumpeting \u201cthe tremendous wealth right under our feet, Trump once more displayed his ignorance about climate change, which he has labeled a \u201choax.\u201d Clinton, curiously, expressed apparent concern about low oil prices having a \u201cdamaging effect on oil companies,\u201d and touted energy independence, but went on to raise climate change and to repeat her mantra that we have the opportunity to become a \u201c21st-century clean-energy superpower.\u201d The divide on the Supreme Court was stark: Trump promising to nominate future justices in the image of Scalia who will defend the Second Amendment, and Clinton promising nominees who will repeal \u003Cem\u003ECitizens United\u003C\/em\u003E, revive the Voting Rights Act, and stand up to corporations.\u003Cspan class=\u0022paranum\u0022\u003E7\u003C\/span\u003E\t\t\n\u003Cp\u003EOn Syria, Trump\u2019s word salad was utterly incoherent, but raised a central issue at the very end: Why aren\u2019t we joining with Russia and Syria and Iran to take out ISIS, rather than trying to take on both our enemy and the enemies of our enemy at the same time? Clinton\u2019s harsh rhetoric on Russian \u201caggression\u201d in Syria\u2014the Russians are there at the invitation of the government; we are the intruders aiding insurgents\u2014and the wild rants about Putin interfering with our elections will stoke fears about her hawkish predilections.\u003Cspan class=\u0022paranum\u0022\u003E8\u003C\/span\u003E\t\t\n\u003Cp\u003EBut the clash of ideas was a sideshow. This \u201cdebate\u201d was an exchange of insults, egged on by the moderators. 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