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RedditDemocrats took another Republican-held U.S. House seat in a special election Saturday, suggesting that the party remains on track for significant expansion of its congressional majorities in 2008.
Louisiana Democrat Don Cazayoux, a young moderate with state legislative experience, snatched a seat that Republicans had held since the 1970s by a 49-46 margin over a well-funded campaign by veteran Republican legislator Woody Jenkins.
The win extends the Democratic majority in the House to 235-198 and it continues a pattern of special-election wins for the party in seats that have traditionally been thought of as Republican strongholds -- including the Illinois turf of former House Speaker Dennis Hastert.
But it does something far more significant.
Republicans and their allied special-interest groups had sought to save the seat by "nationalizing" -- or, to be more precise, racializing -- the contest with a campaign that sought to tie Cazayoux to Democratic presidential frontrunner Barack Obama. Hoping to capitalize on concerns about Obama's former minister, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, in order to exploit racial divisions in the south and other regions of recent Republican strength, GOP operatives have developed advertising schemes that feature images of Obama, Wright and local Democratic candidates.
The strategy was implemented in Louisiana and is also being used in an upcoming Mississippi special election.
The Louisiana results had Maryland Congressman Chris Van Hollen, the able chair of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, declaring, "Republicans were reminded that 'all politics is local.' House Republicans tried to nationalize this election, illegally coordinated with Freedom's Watch, used false and deceptive special interest smears, and funneled nearly a million dollars into a district that Republicans held for more than three decades."
But don't expect the Republicans, who have struggled to come up with a plan to divert voter attention from economic and foreign-policy concerns, to abandon plans to exploit racial divisions in upcoming contests.
Cazayoux was an attractive candidate with deep Louisiana roots, while Jenkins was a controversial figure even in Republican circles -- in no small part because of his past ties to former Ku Klux Klansman David Duke. And still the final result was a close one.
That has encouraged National Republican Congressional Committee, which argued that the anti-Obama campaigning helped Jenkins make up "substantial ground" in the closing days of the contest.
"This election speaks to the potential toxicity of an Obama candidacy and the possible drag he could have down-ballot this fall," argued the NRCC team in a memo that, despite its sore-loser tone, makes clear the intention of the Republican party to make the fall campaign one very long, and very ugly, "Willie Horton" ad.
Do you think he will work well with Congresman Jefferson? Honest politicians like Jefferson is what we need, you know...is he in the same mold? Does he had a nice freezer?
The Dems may increase their majority in the Congress, but it will not last long with the unifing the Dems have shown so far, but, hey get the power first, right?
Posted by JOMAMMA at 05/04/2008 @ 11:22am
".. in no small part because of his past ties to former Ku Klux Klansman David Duke"...
Duke is bad but 20 years sitting next to Wright is good?
I don't think that will sell well in Nov..except in blue inner cities in blue states..
Doees past ties to KKK mean like Sen Byrd or is past ties worst than spiritualy tied, taught, and advised by Wright?
In many eyes, DUKE=Wright, only different colors..
Posted by JOMAMMA at 05/04/2008 @ 11:27am
<i>Do you think he will work well with Congresman Jefferson? </i>
At least as well as Repubs worked with Randy Cunningham...
Posted by Balrog at 05/04/2008 @ 11:52am
In many eyes, DUKE=Wright, only different colors..
Posted by JOMAMMA at 05/4/2008
well,
at least wright has good reason to be crazy.
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/04/2008 @ 11:58am
what a SHOCK!
black people are still pissed off about being enslaved.
how dare they?!?!?
let them have those cake crumbs.........
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/04/2008 @ 12:01pm
Jeremiah wright is NOTHING like David Duke one is the OPRESSED the other the OPRESSOR. How the Heck can they be alike its INSULTING to insinuate that they are alike. Jeremiah spoke out about white supreamcy and the effects of it on the the psyche of AA and other peoples of color. David Duke believes that white people are inherently supreme. And anyone who cant see the difference I feel sorry for them.
Posted by harriscrl3 at 05/04/2008 @ 3:35pm
Posted by harriscrl3 at 05/4/2008
You crazy!? David Duke is exactly like wright! Duke wants to kill all black people and everyone else while Wright wants to no longer be oppressed.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/04/2008 @ 5:01pm
Posted by Mask at 05/4/2008
Don't worry a lot of the hardcore Republicans lately refuse to accept that their party is in a shrinking period and will be for a little while. They may like Bush but they don't realize that him and his Senate have ruined it for them for a little bit with 70% of America.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/04/2008 @ 5:05pm
"black people are still pissed off about being enslaved."
how dare they?!?!?
let them have those cake crumbs.........
How curious that FROSTY is so pissed off about an institution that ended over 140 years ago in the US, but still occurs today in Cuba and North Korea, and about which he shows no concern at all...
Posted by pontificus at 05/04/2008 @ 7:55pm
Hey FROSTY...about those black people who were enslaved...do you know any of them?
Posted by pontificus at 05/04/2008 @ 8:09pm
I agree with Emile. This is just another indicator that it is going to be a bloodbath for the GOP in November. Even if McCain pulls off a miracle and wins, he will be nuetered by solid Dem majorities in Congress, possibly a fillibuster proof Senate by 2010, and he is no Reagan, making lvliberty's assertion that McCain is going to appoint solid conservative nominees to the SCOTUS laughable. Any nominee to the right of Ginsburg will be KIA by Leahy and Schumer. After Roberts and Alito, they are in no mood to be trifled with.
Posted by Benchrest at 05/04/2008 @ 8:14pm
pontificus
cuba and north corea are two very different places.
i'd rather be poor in cuba than poor in gary.
Sunday, May 4, 2008 9:07:05 PM
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/04/2008 @ 9:02pm
A Barack Obama surprise in New Jersey poll results Funny how that recent memo from Hillary Clinton loyalist Harold Ickes recapping all sorts of positive poll numbers for her didn't include a survey from her neck of the woods.
A late April poll of New Jersey voters by Braun Research found -- no real surprise -- that either Clinton or Barack Obama would win the state and its 15 electoral votes in November against John McCain. The surprise was that Obama ran substantially ahead of McCain, more so than Clinton. He beat the presumptive Republican presidential nominee by 24 percentage points; her margin was 14 points.
And here was the real shocker: In a state where Clinton, senator from neighboring New York, won the Feb. 5 primary by 10 points, 45% of Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents now said they wanted to see Obama as the party's nominee, compared with 38% who picked Clinton.
Less than three months after Clinton's primary win, "some New Jersey voters feel buyer's remorse," said poll director Patrick Murray.
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Posted by winyahn at 05/04/2008 @ 9:31pm
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/4/2008
Oh, I thought you were going to say 'those people aren't slaves...they don't WANT to leave!"
Posted by pontificus at 05/04/2008 @ 10:43pm
Posted by winyahn at 05/4/2008
I can't get the life preserver through the tiny box!! But don't worry, one of the advantages to the new system is the mind numbing speed at which problems can be fixed!
Posted by Benchrest at 05/04/2008 @ 11:35pm
I also love the time warps! They make my teeth feel all wiggly!
Posted by Benchrest at 05/04/2008 @ 11:38pm
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/4/2008
"cuba and north corea are two very different places.:
Yes, I heard that too. Apparently, the North Korean border guards use Chinese bullets to shoot you for leaving, whereas the Cubans prefer those from Russia.
Posted by pontificus at 05/05/2008 @ 04:09am
Posted by Mask at 05/5/2008
Yes, MASK, obviously North Korea and Cuba are different in many ways, but the fact is that both of them are slave states that shoot people who are caught attempting to escape. I was merely pointing out the absurdity of people like FROSTY who are seemingly untroubled by the slavery of today (mostly in purported left-wing 'paradises') while they exhibit outrage at an institution that was abolished a century and a half ago in the US. Pure, mendacious hypocrisy. If you listen carefully, you'll here FROSTY say that the people of Cuba and North Korea aren't really slaves, either, because 'they don't want to leave' and, after all, they have Universal Health Care. Doubly ironic that, because when slavery was still active in the US, those were two issues that pro-slavery advocates claimed in their favor as well, i.e., that blacks were happy as slaves and that slave-owners took good care of them.
Posted by pontificus at 05/05/2008 @ 12:31pm
Posted by pontificus at 05/5/2008
That's funny. Considering the Nation JUST did a story about tomato pickers getting slave wages and treated horribly in Florida.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/05/2008 @ 12:39pm
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/5/2008
Receiving 'slave' wages is not the same as being a slave. The way you people bastardize elementary concepts and the language, it's no wonder you're such easy prey for political hucksters.
Posted by pontificus at 05/05/2008 @ 12:45pm
ponti,
have you ever met a cuban?
Monday, May 5, 2008 1:53:03 PM
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/05/2008 @ 1:48pm
Posted by pontificus at 05/5/2008
Haha very funny considering your only excuse for calling Cubans "slaves" is because they can't leave. That doesn't make you a slave. They still get paid for their work. That makes you a prisoner. So you obviously have no clue about the word your using.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/05/2008 @ 2:09pm
Posted by pontificus at 05/5/2008
Should actually make sure you are using the word properly before you try insulting other people.
slave |slāv| noun chiefly historical a person who is the legal property of another and is forced to obey them. • a person who works very hard without proper remuneration or appreciation
Hmm. It would seem definition 2 applies to exactly what I said. I guess the dictionary must be wrong. Whereas it doesn't say anything about the lack of being able to leave automatically making you slave.
prisoner |ˈpriz(ə)nər| noun a person legally committed to prison as a punishment for crimes they have committed or while awaiting trial. • a person captured and kept confined by an enemy, opponent, or criminal :
Hmm. I think that's closer to the word YOU are looking for.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/05/2008 @ 2:13pm
No being able to leave a place is not the same as being a slave. The way you people bastardize elementary concepts and the language, it's no wonder you're such easy prey for political hucksters.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/05/2008 @ 2:14pm
captive |ˈkaptiv| noun a person who has been taken prisoner or an animal that has been confined.
This works too but it's just using the prisoner theme from before.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/05/2008 @ 2:18pm
So let's recap here just to make sure you understand because for all the insults you lob you seem to often not think before you speak.
We have tomato pickers who, receive improper remuneration and improper appreciation for the job they do. They are not allowed to leave and they are abused.
Or we have Cubans who get to lead and otherwise normal life but who are not allowed to leave.
Which one is closer to the literal definition of slave and which is a bastardization of the word? Hmmm.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/05/2008 @ 2:21pm
"Duke is bad but 20 years sitting next to Wright is good?"
How to explain this....................David Duke is a member of an organization (The Klan) that actually advocated murder and murdered people because of race. Rev. Wright ( or his church), while looney, and racist, has never advocated murder or killed anyone because of their race.
So yes, being associated with David Duke is many,many,many times worse. Many times.
Posted by jaguarxjs at 05/05/2008 @ 2:24pm
"Duke is bad but 20 years sitting next to Wright is good?"
I didn't even notice this quote Jom. Are you crazy? Wright doesn't advocate violence. The Klan which Duke led advocated, attempted and committed murder. I think there is a bit of a difference between giving inflamed speeches that have nothing to do with white people and advocating and possibly participating in the murder of blacks.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/05/2008 @ 2:47pm
They may like Bush but they don't realize that him and his Senate have ruined it for them for a little bit with 70% of America.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/4/2008
Hey, nothing that a few months of Obama won't cure ;-)
Posted by marybretbrad at 05/05/2008 @ 3:37pm
Hey FROSTY...about those black people who were enslaved...do you know any of them?
Posted by pontificus at 05/4/2008
Slavery is still practiced today in parts of Africa and the Middle East.
Posted by marybretbrad at 05/05/2008 @ 3:38pm
Hey, great news guys. One of those poor, innocent, oppressed persons of color, that was being tortured daily in Git Mo has been released:
<quote> "A Kuwaiti man released from the U.S. prison in Guantanamo Bay in 2005 has carried out a suicide bombing in Iraq, his cousin told Al Arabiya television on Thursday," Reuters reports from Dubai"
Posted by marybretbrad at 05/05/2008 @ 3:42pm
Odd. Marybret, can you come out from behind the sarcasm and state your point. What is your assertion, concern, problem - and especially SOLUTION for us to consider?
I don't doubt you have some good insights/ideas, just don't know what they might be so far.
Posted by winyahn at 05/05/2008 @ 3:57pm
Posted by marybretbrad at 05/5/2008
Not if he does significant help to the economy and gets us out of Iraq. The people will love him if he does. Remember Clinton got us into a surplus before so you guys are the ones are viewed to have ruined it all. So if he gets the ball rolling on fixing the economy and gets us out it may not be the way you Repubs like but he will be loved.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/05/2008 @ 4:00pm
CCComf01, did you notice the winking emoticon?
Winyahn I'm not sure which post you are referring to. The Obama reference was a joke. The slavery post was just a fact that many people forget about. The Gitmo post was just a poke in the eye to those who simplistically believe we should just shut down gitmo.
Posted by marybretbrad at 05/05/2008 @ 4:11pm
Jeremiah Wright is equal to David Duke??? Are you fucking crazy?
That is the most delusional and backwards shit I've heard in a while.
Posted by madlib at 05/05/2008 @ 4:12pm
Posted by marybretbrad at 05/5/2008
Believe me you guys think he will fail but I tell you now if he gets us out of Iraq in a good amount of time people will love him. He could get a BJ from thirty different secretaries men and women at the same time and it still wouldn't do much damage to him if he gets us out. Getting us out will also do wonders to our economy. So go ahead keep saying he will fail but right now a high approval rating is going to be pretty easy to get.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/05/2008 @ 4:13pm
Posted by marybretbrad at 05/5/2008
No I didn't see the emoticon. For some reason my mind automatically skips them. I think my brain doesn't like processing them.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/05/2008 @ 4:14pm
Posted by marybretbrad at 05/5/2008
Even if we shutdown Gitmo it wouldn't matter. We have other prisons elsewhere. We need to curb this whole thing of throwing people in their with no evidence. You want a quick lesson in making a terrorist there are two things surefire to do it. Killing a persons family member is one. Jailing a person and ruining their life who hasn't done anything is 2.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/05/2008 @ 4:16pm
uhhh, aren't ALL muslims terrorists though? I mean, where could we go wrong?
Posted by madlib at 05/05/2008 @ 4:17pm
You also forget since they're not white christian americans, blowing up their families is pretty inconsequential, jeez!
Posted by madlib at 05/05/2008 @ 4:19pm
You also forget since they're not white christian americans, blowing up their families is pretty inconsequential, jeez!
Posted by madlib at 05/05/2008 @ 4:19pm
I sure am enjoying all the freedom this war has given me though. Freedom to find a job in a shit economy and freedom to pay $4 for a gallon of gas and be spied on by my phone company. Yay freedom!
Posted by madlib at 05/05/2008 @ 4:21pm
it's no wonder you're such easy prey for political hucksters.
Posted by pontificus at 05/5/2008 | ignore this person
So why is your workd unfinished ere? Seems like you are having a difficult time selling your snake oil there pardner.
Posted by OneVote at 05/05/2008 @ 4:42pm
I sure am enjoying all the freedom this war has given me though. Freedom to find a job in a shit economy and freedom to pay $4 for a gallon of gas and be spied on by my phone company. Yay freedom!
Posted by madlib at 05/5/2008 | ignore this person And you have only begun to pay. Wait till we actually have to start paying for the war via higher taxes and opportunity cost of lost social good because of the priority of war debt. Wow! That price of freedom is gonna be sky high. And what about the intangibles....trashing the constitution and forfeiture of your constitutional rights in the name of security and preservation of your freedom....hard to put a price tag on these but I am sure they are (or were) worth something.
Posted by OneVote at 05/05/2008 @ 4:50pm
Don't forget, it's the liberal media's fault.
Posted by madlib at 05/05/2008 @ 4:52pm
The Gitmo post was just a poke in the eye to those who simplistically believe we should just shut down gitmo.
Posted by marybretbrad at 05/5/2008 | ignore this person
Huh? So some guy gets 'fingered' by someone in a rival sect and spends the next several years in Gitmo, held without communications with the outside world, without being charged with anything, without a trial of any kind, then, he's finally released (obviously innocent of anything...or he'd STILL be held Gitmo), and he resports to a suicide bombing.
Why was that a "poke in the eye to those who simplistically believe we should just shut down gitmo"?
Seems to me to be a perfect example of what everyone (including experts in both the military and CIA communities) have been saying all along would happen.
Gitmo is a 'monster factory'. And and obviously successful one.
MBB, apparently, you support its continued success?
Posted by Lillian at 05/05/2008 @ 5:35pm
...Uncalled-for aggression arouses the hatred of the civilian population... ~ Jean-Paul Sartre
We will not learn how to live together in peace by killing each other's children. ~ Jimmy Carter
Our children are not born to hate, they are raised to hate. ~ Thomas della Peruta
Posted by Lillian at 05/05/2008 @ 5:37pm
We will not learn how to live together in peace by killing each other's children. ~ Jimmy Carter
Posted by Lillian at 05/5/2008
Of course not! You have to kill everyone not just the children!
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/05/2008 @ 5:55pm
Clinton got us into a surplus before so you guys are the ones are viewed to have ruined it all.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/5/2008
C3, Clinton was/is a clown. The "supplus" you libs like to mention quickly evaporated after NAFTA. I don't belive it was economically possible to balance the budget and have a full blown recession going on at the same time.
Posted by ACook at 05/05/2008 @ 6:09pm
Posted by ACook at 05/5/2008
I didn't like Clinton so don't get me wrong. But most people don't know what you just mentioned. The majority of Americans just know that after Clinton there was a surplus of money. Then Bush took office and in his first few years there was a massive deficit. The cause of it most Americans don't know and I think generally don't care to know. I'm telling you how others view it.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/05/2008 @ 6:21pm
Gitmo is a 'monster factory'. And and obviously successful one.
MBB, apparently, you support its continued success?
Posted by Lillian at 05/5/2008
If they are all monster, even by our creation, why don't we just execute them all since we obviously can't release them ever?
Posted by marybretbrad at 05/05/2008 @ 6:32pm
...because they're not?
Like I said, all muslims are terrorists! Where could we possibly go wrong by bombing/killing/imprisoning/robbing them?
They deserve it!
Posted by madlib at 05/05/2008 @ 6:38pm
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/5/2008
"Haha very funny considering your only excuse for calling Cubans "slaves" is because they can't leave. That doesn't make you a slave. They still get paid for their work."
According to the latest figures, the average Cuban makes $19 a month. Plus , they have been denied their liberty. I realize that liberty doesn't mean much to the modern American leftist, but apparently it does to those Cubans who try to swim 90 miles to Florida. I think the fact that you nutjobs defend modern slavery in Cuba pretty much says all that needs to be said about how far your heads are stuck up your collective asses.
Posted by pontificus at 05/05/2008 @ 7:15pm
Posted by marybretbrad at 05/5/2008
Greaattt execute innocent people. That's what America is all about! If this country starts executing people with no proof of guilt I think it should burn to the ground because none of us deserves what we have if we stand behind executing innocent people. I don't care how un-American you conservs try to make that sound, the WANT to kill innocent people for not committing a crime is un-American.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/05/2008 @ 7:15pm
Posted by pontificus at 05/5/2008
Obviously you don't know the definiton of slavery A. B how much is $19 there compared to here is B. And C does that mean Mexicans are slaves because they make very little money and want to jump the border? All the criteria for Mexicans being slaves is confined with your rather wrong definition of what slavery is. It's called imprisonment not slavery. Any idiot can see that.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/05/2008 @ 7:19pm
Posted by pontificus at 05/5/200
It's funny too because I can argue that you defend modern slavery in Florida but you won't consider that slavery. You think only you can be right falling right in lock step with the stereotype of the arrogant "intellectual". Someone who can't see past their own nose to see something other than their misguided preconceived notions. Why are the Cubans in Cuba slaves but not the ones picking tomatoes for pennies a pound? Tell me how much does the Average tomato picker make in a day?
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/05/2008 @ 7:22pm
Posted by marybretbrad at 05/5/2008
"Slavery is still practiced today in parts of Africa and the Middle East."
Yes, and the entire countries of North Korea and Cuba are enslaved, but FROSTY couldn't give a shit about them. He's only concerned about the slavery that existed a century and a half ago in the US, because that suits his agenda, and the other instances do not.
Posted by pontificus at 05/05/2008 @ 7:23pm
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/5/2008
"Why are the Cubans in Cuba slaves but not the ones picking tomatoes for pennies a pound? Tell me how much does the Average tomato picker make in a day?"
Because a) the ones picking tomatoes in Florida make much more than the slaves in Cuba and b) the ones picking tomatoes are at liberty to leave.
Posted by pontificus at 05/05/2008 @ 7:25pm
And if we wait long enough, one of you folks will come back and say "why, they're not slaves, they can go anywhere in the island prison they're permitted to go."
Posted by pontificus at 05/05/2008 @ 7:30pm
Shhh, don't confuse him! He's high on liberty.
Posted by madlib at 05/05/2008 @ 8:17pm
Shhh, don't confuse him! He's high on liberty.
Posted by madlib at 05/5/2008
Haha just great.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/05/2008 @ 8:25pm
Posted by Mask at 05/5/2008
"Make up your mind....prisoners or slaves?"
Ah, you got tired of debating how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, MASK, so you thought you'd try your hand at sophistry?
Posted by pontificus at 05/05/2008 @ 8:26pm
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/5/2008
"Haha just great."
yuk yuk yuk yuk
morons
Posted by pontificus at 05/05/2008 @ 8:27pm
I'm sure Fidel is delighted to have you chowderheads to make apologies for him.
Posted by pontificus at 05/05/2008 @ 8:28pm
Posted by pontificus at 05/5/2008
Hmm someone is a little fussy. You need your baba? Maybe take a nap?
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/05/2008 @ 8:31pm
You DO know McCain promised to shut down Gitmo, right???
Posted by Mask at 05/5/2008
No, I didn't know that. I just may stay home yet.
Posted by marybretbrad at 05/05/2008 @ 8:58pm
Posted by marybretbrad at 05/5/2008
Oh yeah. McCain has promised lots of things the Repubs don't like. He may have recently not voted on the torture bill but he is probably going to change that when he gets in to make water-boarding illegal too. He said he doesn't approve this tactics. I mean it kind of figures though. He's only truly Republican until he doesn't need you guys anymore. Then he will be his own fringe.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/05/2008 @ 9:02pm
No, I didn't know that. I just may stay home yet.
Posted by marybretbrad at 05/5/2008 | ignore this person
So that's the problem? There's just not going to be an obvious 'kill-'em-all-and-let-God-sort-'em-out' candidate on the ballot for you to get behind?
Maybe you SHOULD just plan on staying home MBB.
Posted by Lillian at 05/05/2008 @ 9:15pm
If they are all monster, even by our creation, why don't we just execute them all since we obviously can't release them ever?
Posted by marybretbrad
well put, monster.
Monday, May 5, 2008 9:39:26 PM
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/05/2008 @ 9:34pm
because that suits his agenda
Posted by pontificus
żagenda?
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/05/2008 @ 9:35pm
apologies for him.
Posted by pontificus
yep. those nasty cubans.
hey, do you own anything made in china?
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/05/2008 @ 9:37pm
Cuba, N. Korea, Iraq, Burma, Jim Crow America of old = places laden with oppression, suffering, and figural slavery.
Reasonable folks can disagree on the degree or extent of innocent people in Gitmo, and what % of those rounded up are "terrorists".
Posted by winyahn at 05/05/2008 @ 11:50pm
Benchrest -cracked me up.
Ponti - some of your stuff is sharp, some is cheesy. So you've sharp cheddar. But seriously... on the following:
I realize that liberty doesn't mean much to the modern American leftist, but apparently it does to those Cubans who try to swim 90 miles to Florida. I think the fact that you nutjobs defend modern slavery in Cuba pretty much says all that needs to be said about how far your heads are stuck up your collective asses.
-- do you actually believe this is all factually accurate? Nothing wrong with polemics or sarcasm , just curious.
--in your opinion, generally speaking, is lefties hatred of liberty something they are conscious of?
--
Posted by winyahn at 05/06/2008 @ 12:06am
Atop ELITEgate, the Times is now pushing the corporate by-line, "Clinton Transforms Into Working-Class Hero"
Obama's been lynched, Kiss Indiana goodbye.
Posted by winyahn at 05/06/2008 @ 12:11am
Posted by winyahn at 05/6/2008
"-- do you actually believe this is all factually accurate?"
Of course it's factually accurate. What part do you believe is not?
"--in your opinion, generally speaking, is lefties hatred of liberty something they are conscious of?"
I think there is always a segment of society which is willing to trade liberty for security, and you will find this segment today on the American left. The fact that people like FROSTY and such defend slave states like Cuba and North Korea on the grounds that slavery offers a good medical plan are pretty good examples of this.
Posted by pontificus at 05/06/2008 @ 03:33am
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/5/2008
"Hmm someone is a little fussy. You need your baba? Maybe take a nap?"
I apologize, I guess your rank stupidity got to me a little.
Posted by pontificus at 05/06/2008 @ 03:35am
So pontificus, for ex., do lefties openly, consciously detest liberty, believe it to be inherently bad? Is this your position?
Posted by winyahn at 05/06/2008 @ 04:08am
ponti,
relax, brother.
there is no perfect place to live.
cuba can learn a lot from the u.s.
the u.s. can learn a lot from cuba.
Tuesday, May 6, 2008 8:00:07 AM
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/06/2008 @ 07:55am
Posted by pontificus at 05/6/2008 | ignore this person
Oh my! The sheer irony of that post...
Posted by madlib at 05/06/2008 @ 11:53am
Posted by pontificus at 05/6/2008
hahahahahahahha wow. Yeah the American left sacrifice liberty for security right. Since the American left is the one who advocated the sacrifice of our right to privacy, free speech, habeus corpus and a few others in order to keep us secure. Right the left is willing to sacrifice. Do you even pay attention to the world or do you just make shit up as you go along?
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/06/2008 @ 12:19pm