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RedditRepublican apologists for the Bush administration's failed fight in Iraq and their amen corner in the media have been looking for something, anything, to distract the American public from a necessary discussion about the need to end the U.S. occupation of that country. They finally settled last week on the "scandal" involving House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's mode of transporation.
Pelosi, a California Democrat, was informed as she prepared to assume the speakership -- a position that places her third in the line of succession to the presidency -- that she could no longer travel as she previously had: on commercial airlines. She would, she was informed, have to fly as former Speaker Dennis Hastert had on a secure Air Force plane. So it was that, upon becoming speaker, Pelosi accepted her new circumstance and agreed to use a military plane with a fuel capacity that would allow for cross-country travel without stops.
That's not exactly the stuff of scandal. But, after an apparent "leak" from the Bush administration's Department of Defense to the White House-friendly Washington Times newspaper, the Times last week ran a story headlined: "Pelosi's Power Trip -- Non-stop Nancy Seeks Flight of Fancy."
Fox News jumped on the story, followed by other cable networks. The Republican National Committee stoked it with emails to reporters and briefing papers supposedly exposing Pelosi's imperial style -- and ambitions. The predictable Sean Hannity declared that Pelosi "thinks she's the president" -- seemingly unaware that by referencing the presidency he was acknowledging his own dear leader's regal pretensions.
Republican members of the House actually brought the issue up on the floor of a chamber that should have been focused on the question of how and when to end a war that began as Dick Cheney's "power trip" and George Bush's flight of fancy" but has since turned into an international disaster.
House Republican Conference chair Adam Putnam, of Florida accused Pelosi of displaying "an arrogance of office that just defies common sense."
House Minority Whip Roy Blunt, of Missouri, referred to the plane Pelosi would likely use as a "flying Lincoln Bedroom."
North Carolina Congressman Patrick T. McHenry, arguably the most consistently hysterical member of an increasingly hysterical caucus, described the speaker's plane as "Pelosi One," and declared that, "This is a bullet point to a larger value -- Pelosi's abuse of power continues.
McHenry accused the speaker of "exploiting America's armed forces and taxpayers for her own personal convenience."
Yikes! This was the Republican spin machine churning at full throttle.
There was only, er, one problem.
The charge that Pelosi was abusing her position was a complete fabrication.
The speaker did not request a bigger or better plane.
It was the man in charge of making security arrangements for members of the Congress who made the request.
House Sergeant at Arms Bill Livingood has confirmed that, for security reasons, he asked that Pelosi be provided with an Air Force plane that could make the trip from Washington to San Francisco without stopping to refuel.
"The fact that Speaker Pelosi lives in California compelled me to request an aircraft that is capable of making non-stop flights for security purposes, unless such an aircraft is unavailable," Livingood explained in a written statement. "I regret that an issue that is exclusively considered and decided in a security context has evolved into a political issue."
Livingood, who has served as sergeant at arms for 11 years, made similar arrangements for past speakers.
That was something the Republican National Committee and its media echo chamber could have discovered simply by contacting the Office of the Sergeant at Arms.
It is something that Republican Representatives Putnam, Blunt and McHenry should have known.
In fact, if this Congress had nothing else on its agenda, it might well be appropriate to inquire into whether Putnam, Blunt and McHenry used their positions to engage in a deliberate conspiracy to deceive the American people for partisan purposes.
But Congress has a higher calling. It is time to put aside the distractions and get focused on the discussion about war and peace that the administration and its acolytes on Capitol Hill are so determined to avoid.
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John Nichols' new book is THE GENIUS OF IMPEACHMENT: The Founders' Cure for Royalism. Rolling Stone's Tim Dickinson hails it as a "nervy, acerbic, passionately argued history-cum-polemic [that] combines a rich examination of the parliamentary roots and past use of the 'heroic medicine' that is impeachment with a call for Democratic leaders to 'reclaim and reuse the most vital tool handed to us by the founders for the defense of our most basic liberties.'"
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Look, this is ridiculous....
what do the Repubs expect? That Pelosi is going to TAKE A TRAIN home to San Fran, in some simplistic idea of living by example and helping to reduce CO2 emissions by reducing her flying or something?
This is THE most powerful woman in America...and 2nd in line to the Presidency, she deserves the best. Limo, private jet, accomodations for her family, whatever she wants. And just because she's rich in her own right (or her husband's anyway) doesn't mean she should HAVE TO PAY FOR IT...she's the g**damn Speaker of the US House of Reps....she's entitled to it as one of our leaders.
Pelosi is doing important work for Americans....a little privelege isn't too much to ask for her!
After all, she's about to pass a non-binding resolution against the war, isn't she?
Posted by Mask at 02/09/2007 @ 11:58am
Your cute little last sentence notwithstanding, Mask, the story here is that the obvious right-wing spin machine pumped up into full throttle within hours...
lying all the while.
Dozens of apologies and retractions should be issued - fat chance.
Posted by New Dawn at 02/09/2007 @ 12:06pm
"alright guys...the dems are on the rise again, so lets did up some dirt!"
typical neocon (fascist) chicanery..."oh shit...they are figuring out how corrupt we are...lets accuse them of our sins and stir up a big fuss over nothing, but a big fuss is a big fuss and and to say it is to prove it in the minds of many!"
Posted by ibbleblibble at 02/09/2007 @ 12:08pm
Here's part of the story from Bloomberg-
"White House spokesman Tony Snow today defended Pelosi's use of a plane, and said the negotiations involve the Pentagon, not the White House.
``This is a silly story and I think it's been unfair to the speaker,'' Snow said.
That didn't dissuade House Republicans. Today, they halted debate on an energy-related bill for more than two hours to criticize the request for a larger plane than Hastert used for travel.
Representative John Shadegg, an Arizona Republican, said it was unfortunate House members must debate the ``excessive amount of money to accommodate one member Congress.'' Representative Dana Rohrabacher, a California Republican, said Pelosi's ``personal choices are extravagantly contradictory'' to her support for efforts to reduce the use of fossil fuels to address the risks of global warming.
Not Involved
Pelosi insisted this week that she is not involved in the talks, and the House Sergeant of Arms Wilson Livingood is handling the matter. She suggested today that her criticism of the war in Iraq is a factor in leaks from the Pentagon about the request that have suggested she is seeking more access to a government plane."
Hmmm...sounds like the White House is taking the same angle as John Nichols here...
while Pelosi is BLAMING THE MILITARY for the scandal?!?!?!?
Posted by Mask at 02/09/2007 @ 12:16pm
our supposedly free press is the culprit in this, repeating the lies. we KNOW that the repubs lie. that our media lie knee jerk fashion is also becoming clear.
Posted by johannesrolf at 02/09/2007 @ 12:27pm
I can't help but remember Nanci Pelosi's oft-stated commitment to bipartisanship. Surely she understood that Republicans have never displayed the least bit of interest in bipartisanship, whether they were in the majority or not. The Republicans out of power are dirty, underhanded, lying, conniving partisans. For some reason the Democratic leadership feels the best way to respond to that is with quavering pleas for bipartisanship. Is the explanation that the Democratic leadership has the same ultimate objectives as the Republicans and doesn't think a family fight is in both their best interests?
Posted by fromredbird at 02/09/2007 @ 12:49pm
Is the explanation that the Democratic leadership has the same ultimate objectives as the Republicans and doesn't think a family fight is in both their best interests?
Posted by FROMREDBIRD 02/09/2007 @ 12:49am
I always find history fascinating....how about you?
""BLOG | Posted 11/09/2006 @ 4:34pm The Wimp Party by Ari Berman
CPT, are you going to spend the rest of your life focusing on minutiae that "prove" the Republicans didn't really LOSE? Is that what you're reduced to after spending the last two years blabbing that the Democrats would disappear if they didn't adopt the neanderthal Republican platform?
Posted by FROMREDBIRD 11/10/2006 @ 08:33am""
Posted by Mask at 02/09/2007 @ 1:23pm
MASK, not having the better American government that I want doesn't mean the Republicans won, not by a long shot. That's why Bush abandoned his un-Constitutional wiretapping activities but I realize that means nothing to you.
I'm also flattered that you preserve copies of my posts when I rarely read yours even contemporaneously.
Nice of me to reboot, wasn't it? Now back in the ignore bin with you.
Posted by fromredbird at 02/09/2007 @ 1:39pm
Now back in the ignore bin with you.
Posted by FROMREDBIRD 02/09/2007 @ 1:39pm
I note you stop putting a "time limit" on those. Too many "back to the Ignore List for another 2-3 weeks" that turned out to be "2-3 days", huh?
Sorry...the quotes were just TOO good to pass up--
"Is the explanation that the Democratic leadership has the same ultimate objectives as the Republicans..."---February 9th
"...blabbing that the Democrats would disappear if they didn't adopt the neanderthal Republican platform"---November 10th
Posted by Mask at 02/09/2007 @ 1:46pm
People,
This "issue" doesn't even deserve your most fleeting and trivial of thoughts. Pelosi's form of transportation is no different from hundreds of other politicos from both sides. Hell, doesn't Bloomberg have a jet equipped with rockets these days? Concentrating on such piffle is like throwing water into the sea. This is yet another of the endless supply of red herrings thrown across the trail by the obscurantists...
Posted by chimichenga at 02/09/2007 @ 2:12pm
Chimi, Bloomberg has his own personal jet.he also does not take a salary for his service as new york's mayor.he is, in a word, the anti Giuliani. he did screw up big time during the repub convention, and the city will pay millions in lawsuit settlements because of that.
Posted by johannesrolf at 02/09/2007 @ 2:16pm
A big deal over not much....but the TRUTH of the matter that Johnny didnt bother to inform you are more inconvienent FACTS
Madame Speaker wanted a bigger plane, not JUST for fuel capacity sakes, but for her family members to ride in as well.
The Air Force is not giving her the plane she wanted in terms of space, but in terms of fuel they will accomadate her.
Liberal Hypocrisey? I know you guys have no problem with that.
Posted by CPT at 02/09/2007 @ 2:18pm
CHIMI/FROMREDHEZBOLLAH
FYI, you will like this, it is your wonderful jihadists planning an ambush on our troops, but alas, they were counter-ambushed and went gloriously to Allah.
It is five minutes long, and starts with jihadis at a sandtable planning their attack, they then get into their trucks and move out to their objective, when all of a sudden.......you can see the US position in the foreground, and are able to see the US Soldiers in the shadow refelction. Enjoy...MASK you should like this. Copy and paste it.
I highly encourage all who truly despise such displays of American arrogance to view it, it very illuminating.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1e26f1f97f
Posted by CPT at 02/09/2007 @ 2:29pm
Like I said over at the Greed thread, something to keep the borg sheep from thinking about the true crimes committed by their beer-o-crats.
Whattsa matter CPT, did you miss this --"The fact that Speaker Pelosi lives in California compelled me to request an aircraft that is capable of making non-stop flights for security purposes, unless such an aircraft is unavailable," Livingood explained in a written statement. "I regret that an issue that is exclusively considered and decided in a security context has evolved into a political issue." That the Sergeant at Arms of the House.
Wheres Barry?
hehehe. sheep. Ready to do the bidding of the corp media at the drop of a false story. Wmd's, Obama in a Madrassa, Armstrong selling himself to the Admin, drunk sources, gay prostitute shills.
good times. You guys keep it going. Better than John Stewart.
Posted by crabwalk at 02/09/2007 @ 2:32pm
JR,
True, but with the sky full of witches on broomsticks and the airports steadily approaching confiscations of luggage and cavity searches with the incessant mischief no doubt taking bold and preposterous shape in the shady minds of the evildoers, there's really no way anyone can criticize measures taken in the name of "security". I mean, Bloomberg wants rockets, every now and then the White House lawn is bedizened with anti-aircraft missiles, judges carry guns in court, RFIDs in passports, fingerprints in airports, wiretaps, hair gel is forbidden on planes, ect. All these things are becoming commonplace and paving the way for even greater and more outlandish measures to give the illusion of security, when all along a simple bag of spinach or a bad burrito from Taco Bell ends up being more real and more lethal than any supposed plot by the shaitans...
Posted by chimichenga at 02/09/2007 @ 2:37pm
"you will like this, it is your wonderful jihadists"
If it makes you feel better to think that, i am even more sorry for your complete lack of cognizant thought.
Have some more kool-aid. Watermelon flavor today at the FOX garbage pail trough.
Posted by crabwalk at 02/09/2007 @ 2:38pm
CPT,
So let's clout one another with clips and excerpts that make no point but to prove that there are a few assholes out there exacerbating the problems of the day and happy to spill blood (or indifferent to seeing it spilled) in the name of religion, some perverse ideology or any other corrupted reason that exists soley in their minds and can therefore only become reality by being forced into and onto the world...
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e1842edc4f
Posted by chimichenga at 02/09/2007 @ 2:44pm
Posted by CPT 02/09/2007 @ 2:29pm
I'm not interested in viewing your stupid s*** CPT. You think it's wonderful, don't you, that an ignorant sociopath like you has the opportunity to paste up on the internet videos of other human beings who were killed after we invaded their country? It's also, in your depraved worldview, a crime for someone to resist the invasion of their country by America, isn't it? There isn't enough of a spark of intelligence in your brain to ever wonder if that invasion had any justification. Like I said before, you should be taking orders at the take-out window at McDonalds. You and your ilk are a disgrace to the American uniform. What you are is the neo-fascist core constituency of the Republican Party and it will be a long time before your political party ever has power again. Being that public example is the only good purpose you've ever served in probably your whole life.
Posted by fromredbird at 02/09/2007 @ 2:59pm
Posted by CPT 02/09/2007 @ 2:29pm
Well, first good news....now only 9,777,590 Sunnis to go, huh?
Second, I think I see part of the problem of that group. Any insurgent with "man boobs" (check out the guy on the left-hand side of the cheering section)...is in BIG trouble.
Third, as a conservative, I hope you continue to fund such video releases by frequenting the sponsers of it:
Sponsors
Meet Sexy Ladies
Hot Girls in Bikini's
Sexy Media Downloads
Fight Videos
Addicting Games
Funny and Sexy Videos
Celebrity Videos
Sexy Dating
Sexy Noho Chicks
News by Hot Sexy Girls
Posted by Mask at 02/09/2007 @ 3:02pm
Intelligence provided by former undersecretary of defense Douglas J. Feith to buttress the White House case for invading Iraq included "reporting of dubious quality or reliability" that supported the political views of senior administration officials rather than the conclusions of the intelligence community, according to a report by the Pentagon's inspector general.
http://tinyurl.com/2bu4ts
Yeah, but it gave sociopaths like CPT the opportunity to collect videos of human beings getting murdered, didn't it?
Posted by fromredbird at 02/09/2007 @ 3:04pm
CPT's and LVLIBERTY1's adorable heroes.
Posted by fromredbird at 02/09/2007 @ 3:05pm
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e1842edc4f
Posted by CHIMICHENGA 02/09/2007 @ 2:44pm
They probably bought that booze with the billions of dollars of our tax money that the Democrats and Republicans insist they need more than Americans do.
Posted by fromredbird at 02/09/2007 @ 3:07pm
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e1842edc4f
Posted by CHIMICHENGA 02/09/2007 @ 2:44pm
Nice quote: "We killed Jesus and we're proud of it!"
LVLIBERTY1 worships people like this.
Posted by fromredbird at 02/09/2007 @ 3:10pm
Posted by FROMREDBIRD 02/09/2007 @ 3:07pm | ignore this person
Oh yes, the US taxpayer lavishes his pacific Israeli brethren with all kinds of goodies, many of which the former doesn't even have. And while its bad that Iranians give weapons to their brothers in Iraq, it's no problem that the Pakistanis gave technology to N. Korea or Libya, just as it's no problem that America supplied much or the ordinance that pummeled Lebanon in August.
Posted by chimichenga at 02/09/2007 @ 3:15pm
The video that sparked the latest controversy shows a woman settler shoving against a metal cage attached around the front of a Palestinian family's home to protect it, cursing a Palestinian woman.
"Sharmouta" - Arabic for whore - the settler hisses over and over at Fida's frantic mother, standing just inches away behind the iron bars. The settler holds the second syllable in her vicious taunt: "Sharmouuuuta. Sharmouuuuta. You and all your daughters."
In a second video, young settler children hurl stones at Palestinian homes.
In both films, Israeli soldiers are seen hovering in the background but apparently do little to stop the settlers. Their inaction has triggered much of the public outcry.
Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert expressed his "shame" after viewing the videos and the chairman of Jerusalem's Yad Vashem Holocaust memorial, Tommy Lapid, compared the abuse to the anti-Semitism of pre-World War II Europe.
http://tinyurl.com/3ceyrf
video [tinyurl.com]
additional video [tinyurl.com]
Yad Vashem Council Chair slams settlers for abusing Palestinians
By Reuters and Haaretz Service
The head of the council of the Yad Vashem Holocaust memorial on Saturday assailed Jewish settlers who harass Palestinians in the West Bank city of Hebron, saying the abuse recalled the anti-Semitism of pre-World War Two Europe.
A Yad Vashem spokeswoman told Haaretz that Yad Vashem Council Chairman Yosef (Tommy) Lapid's comments do not reflect the memorial center's position.
Lapid's unusually fierce and public attack was prompted by television footage showing a Hebron settler woman hissing "whore" at her Palestinian neighbor and settler children lobbing rocks at Arab homes.
Lapid, a Holocaust survivor who lost his father to the Nazi genocide, said in a weekly commentary on Israel Radio that the acts of some Hebron settlers reminded him of persecution endured by Jews in his native Yugoslavia on the eve of World War Two.
"It was not crematoria or pogroms that made our life in the diaspora bitter before they began to kill us, but persecution, harassment, stone-throwing, damage to livelihood, intimidation, spitting and scorn," Lapid said.
"I was afraid to go to school, because of the little anti-Semites who used to lay in ambush on the way and beat us up. How is that different from a Palestinian child in Hebron?"
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/815603.html
Posted by fromredbird at 02/09/2007 @ 3:16pm
MASK
Well if figured that would gurantee your going to view it. lol
Dont fret it was email from a buddy who gave me the link.
Posted by CPT at 02/09/2007 @ 3:19pm
Posted by CPT 02/09/2007 @ 3:19pm
Well, your buddy might have just given you a nasty bug, CPT.
Ran AdAware (as a precaution) before and AFTER going to that link....nice little KEYSTROKE copier downloaded (probably from the "I'm over 18" button) that wasn't there before. Kinda figured that with that sort of site, so guarded myself.
You might want to get yourself tested!...hehe
Posted by Mask at 02/09/2007 @ 3:22pm
opportunity to collect videos of human beings getting murdered, didn't it?
Posted by FROMREDBIRD 02/09/2007 @ 3:04pm | ignore this person
Well go watch the video of those human beings.....what do you think they are doing at that sand table?????
Building castles? No that is a standerd table top rehearsel for an operation that they had planned. They were planning to MURDER innocents.
We simply got to them before they were able to carry out their murderous deed. You see pre-emption works.
I would think your sympathy would lay with the potential victims that were spared.
Posted by CPT at 02/09/2007 @ 3:23pm
MASK
Not to worry....lol this computer has PRE-emptive software to deal with such things.
Posted by CPT at 02/09/2007 @ 3:25pm
Posted by CRABWALK 02/09/2007 @ 2:38pm | ignore this person
Like I told NEW DAWN, my friend pull your head out of your fourth point of contact and smell the shit that posts around this blog.....many here WANT the US to fail...they are on record.
Thats why i didnt address it to every lefty libby...just the moonbats
Posted by CPT at 02/09/2007 @ 3:27pm
Posted by CPT 02/09/2007 @ 3:25pm
Seriously....reminds me of "The Blair Witch Project" and with as much credibility. Not saying it's not accurate or the insurgents planning their mission and blowing it.
But saying that it's MEANINGLESS. It's a "YouTube" version of a "body count", CPT. New, technologically advanced, but the same ol', same ol' from '69.
We both know what's LIKELY to happen (Pentagon just leaked their "post-Surge contingency plans"...I know, I know...they HAVE to have those...but interesting).
And when Iowa and New Hampshire Primaries roll around and we're getting "Just a few more months, it's working" from the Administration, Bill Kristol and Ann Coulter and the Dems are in full-out "If I become President, I'll get us out"...
you'll be saying that it was "Dems and libs undermining the effort that made the Surge fail" or weakly "It IS working we re-took in October of 2007 the block that we lost in June of 07, that we won in March of 07"
And the Congress will dick around (excuse French) for another year and a half; Pelosi will offer up "quasi-funding cuts" threats, which Reid and Schumer will kill in the Senate; and we'll kill 22 months (and who knows how many American GIs and Iraqis)....
until January 2009 and Her Majesty Mrs President pull the plug on this debacle and you can claim for the next 40 years that "We were this (two fingers apart) close to winning in Iraq, and SHE and her friends ruined it!"
Posted by Mask at 02/09/2007 @ 3:55pm
No that is a standerd table top rehearsel for an operation that they had planned. They were planning to MURDER innocents.
We simply got to them before they were able to carry out their murderous deed. You see pre-emption works.
I would think your sympathy would lay with the potential victims that were spared.
Posted by CPT 02/09/2007 @ 3:23pm
Why don't you provide a good explanation of why our soldiers are in Iraq in the first place, you stupid shit? I guess if a foreign power invaded America I would be murdering innocents if I resisted, wouldn't I, by your asshole thought processes? Why don't you show some video of the innocent American soldiers who were killed for the greater glory of your shit worthless Republican Party? An intelligent person realizes that no one had to die, that the deaths are only for the benefit of moronic sociopaths like you, whose thought processes never advanced beyond the level of age five, and the self-serving political maneuvering of the Republican Party and their allies.
Posted by fromredbird at 02/09/2007 @ 4:09pm
"...and the self-serving political maneuvering of the Republican Party and their allies."----Posted by FROMREDBIRD 02/09/2007 @ 4:09pm
Uh, would those "allies" include...the Democratic Party???
"Is the explanation that the Democratic leadership has the same ultimate objectives as the Republicans and doesn't think a family fight is in both their best interests?"---Posted by FROMREDBIRD 02/09/2007 @ 12:49am
Posted by Mask at 02/09/2007 @ 4:13pm
Dont fret it was email from a buddy who gave me the link.
Posted by CPT 02/09/2007 @ 3:19pm
Well, your buddy might have just given you a nasty bug, CPT.
Ran AdAware (as a precaution) before and AFTER going to that link....nice little KEYSTROKE copier downloaded (probably from the "I'm over 18" button) that wasn't there before. Kinda figured that with that sort of site, so guarded myself.
You might want to get yourself tested!...hehe
Posted by MASK 02/09/2007 @ 3:22pm
Save the BS, CPT. You came across that video while you were sitting at your government owned desk on your government provided salary and cruising porno videos on the internet. Meanwhile, the kids you recruited are getting blown to hell in Iraq.
Posted by fromredbird at 02/09/2007 @ 4:26pm
Isn't it funny that CPT considers himself a validation of the American Dream? He's pushed the bounds of idiocy to such an extent that he doesn't realize that while a little soldier boy he is nothing but another expendable grunt - cannon fodder for the managers of society whom he claims to be in synch with. But still, you gotta feel sorry when someone who probably had more chances than one to do something productive with his life ends up surrendering to the "call of duty", which he'll call defending the nation and us morons who sandbag him day after day, when in truth he is just another churl with bad wiring given a jolt of jingoism and some weapons training. Scary to think these are the kind of people sent to bring "peace" to the globe...
Posted by chimichenga at 02/09/2007 @ 4:38pm
Save the BS, CPT. You came across that video while you were sitting at your government owned desk on your government provided salary and cruising porno videos on the internet. Meanwhile, the kids you recruited are getting blown to hell in Iraq.
Posted by FROMREDBIRD 02/09/2007 @ 4:26pm |
That's CPT at his finest: suckin' off of the Army tit, doin' the lyin' while someone else does the dyin'
Sick Sick Sick
Posted by skeletonman at 02/09/2007 @ 4:41pm
Posted by CRABWALK 02/09/2007 @ 2:38pm | ignore this person
Like I told NEW DAWN, my friend pull your head out of your fourth point of contact and smell the shit that posts around this blog.....many here WANT the US to fail...they are on record.
Thats why i didnt address it to every lefty libby...just the moonbats
Posted by CPT 02/09/2007 @ 3:27pm
"Like you told me" right before you ran away from the discussion.
Guess you missed my replies:
NEW DAWN
Check yourself, not everyone here wants us to succeed....pull your head out your arse and smell the shit that is posting here.
Maybe you passivley ignore it...but it is real.
Posted by CPT 02/08/2007 @ 7:14pm
Listen close, you fucking moron.
My head isn't in my arse, it's right here on top of my shoulders, where my eyes have a clear line of sight to every well-meaning-but-ignorant post you've posted in the last few years.
I've repeatedly tried to engage you in a respectful manner, tried to honestly help you understand some issues that you didn't previously understand (global warming comes to mind - I notice you bailed out of that discussion when I engaged you directly), and I've been respectful of your military service.
But it increasingly seems that you're just a fucking moron who makes up arguments to justify your monstrously ignorant worldview. What is the last grade you passed, genius?
Please link to as single post or article EVER where ANYONE ever argued that they want the U.S. to lose. Show me a basis for your ignorant argument, or shut your fucking big mouth.
The next time you want to tell me to pull my head out of my ass, here's a suggestion: don't. I'm sick of you and your kind talking the kind of shit you talk here. And that goes for Rio Cowardly Bitch, Barry25, and anyone else who wants to talk that kind of shit about me or to me.
You could make a valid and cohesive argument once in a while without the hateful hyperbole (or, more likely, you actually can't). What I've been trying to tell you all along is that you make me sad, CPT, because you are an American serviceman who should deserve respect from everyone on this board, and every American citizen.
But when you open your mouth and vomit the kind of stupidity you've vomited in recent days, I wonder about you.
The fact that you don't understand why only bolsters every word I just wrote.
Posted by NEW DAWN 02/08/2007 @ 9:09pm | ignore this person
And CPT - before you respond by sticking both of your ignorant feet in your ignorant mouth and going for a brisk jog, go look up Richard Marcinko - he's one of my heroes.
Posted by NEW DAWN 02/08/2007 @ 9:18pm
Here's another notable exchange that CPT ran from (I LOVE this one):
If there is any group of Americans who truly believe in "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs," it's our soldiers.
Posted by CPT 02/08/2007 @ 7:00pm | ignore this person
Wait, wait...where have I heard that quote before?
Oh yes, now I remember, Karl Marx in his 1875 Critique of the Gotha Program...the phrase that summarizes the communist system!
So CPT, did you really intend to compare our military to communism?
Posted by LILLIAN 02/08/2007 @ 8:20pm | ignore this person
Do you use that in your military recruitment efforts CPT?
"Be the best communist you can be...in the ARMY!!
Posted by LILLIAN 02/08/2007 @ 8:24pm | ignore this person
Sorry.
:-)
Posted by LILLIAN 02/08/2007 @ 8:27pm
Classic.
Posted by NEW DAWN 02/08/2007 @ 9:51pm
Posted by New Dawn at 02/09/2007 @ 4:43pm
Posted by NEW DAWN 02/09/2007 @ 4:43pm
ND, it's a simple formula.
2003- Generals and military advisors say we need more troops to win...Bush disagrees....CPT agrees with Bush.
2007- Generals and military advisors say we can't win now with more troops....Bush disagrees...CPT believes him.
Bush says things are fine in 2003-2007...CPT believes him. Anybody saying anything to the contrary, "wants us to lose and loves the terrorists".
Bush says things are "rough" in 2007...CPT believes him. Anybody who says they are AWFUL and we should get out, "wants us to lose and loves the terrorists".
Bush says it's not a "civil war"...CPT believes him...National Intelligence Estimate says it's WORSE than a civil war...they want us to lose and love the terrorists!
Bush leaves office in January 20, 2009 and still losing GIs in Iraq....CPT will blame the Democrats and possibly Democrat President for "losing the war" on January 21st, 2009.
Bush says "Jump!"...CPT says "How high, sir?"
Posted by Mask at 02/09/2007 @ 4:53pm
Five times today alone, Mask. Something very, very starnge is going on...
And CPT -
Come on, be honest with the room - how stupid do you really feel for laying an endorsement of communism on the hearts and minds of U.S. troops?
Posted by New Dawn at 02/09/2007 @ 4:55pm
strange
Posted by New Dawn at 02/09/2007 @ 4:55pm
MASK,
I've very much enjoyed your posts of late, not just because you too are calling CPT on his bologna, but because you've provided some good rebuttals and succinct answers to a handful of less-informed bloggers.
ND,
Well-spoken as usual. Your comment about the respect CPT ought to command made aroused a moment of distress in me, for while I don't agree with anything he says, it pains me to see and hear him as representing a group who in past conflicts and operations enjoyed respect both at home and abroad and surely produced some great leaders. He's become a punching bag, and although some have attempted time and again to engage and enlighten him, I've given him no quarter, but I've never once seen him budge from a standpoint, no matter how idiotic, nor accept the reality that many of the "truths" he's uses to base his argument upon have been outed as despicable lies. That there are many CPTs out there is something that should send a shutter through anyone in their right mind...
Posted by chimichenga at 02/09/2007 @ 5:08pm
Thanks, Chimi. Really, thanks.
I get your point - CPT is an awful example of an American serviceman - the "best of the best".
Judging solely on the things he's typed here over the last few years, I can't fathom how anyone could see him as the "best" of anything.
Posted by New Dawn at 02/09/2007 @ 5:13pm
The Air Force Academy is investigating allegations of cheating by 28 freshmen
must be the influence of those liberal professors.
Posted by johannesrolf at 02/09/2007 @ 5:32pm
Posted by CPT 02/09/2007 @ 3:23pm
Cap'n...I think you have missed the entire point of the left-aisle folks in that your soft targets wouldn't exist if not for Dumbya Bushwhack and his clueless cronies. Al Qaeda and the sectarian militias in Iraq are a direct result of clueless leader's distortions. He failed when he called the first strike. He's just not done failing yet....we'd rather it stop sooner is all.
Posted by MASK 02/09/2007 @ 3:55pm
My, my...you been eatin' your Wheaties or something? As noted upthread, succinct well-placed jibes. I can respect that...
Posted by leftofcenter at 02/09/2007 @ 5:33pm
Posted by JOHANNESROLF 02/09/2007 @ 5:32pm
I'm telling ya, the influence of the evil left knows no bounds. they even manage to overcome the evangelical heads of the Academy.
why is it that the worlds greatest Army EVER is still in Iraq? I say piss poor planning and execution, inability to understand the environment and lack of a coherent realistic goal. Or it could be the media.
Posted by crabwalk at 02/09/2007 @ 5:46pm
why is it that the worlds greatest Army EVER is still in Iraq?
are they really? the world's greatest army ever? no they're not.
Posted by johannesrolf at 02/09/2007 @ 6:02pm
Oh, boy - this should be good.
Posted by New Dawn at 02/09/2007 @ 6:03pm
i would jump in on the captain dogpile, but when even mask rips out chunks of non "socialist" flesh, whats the point? i'll stick to gnawing on barry25...not much flesh there and kind of stringy, but its just too crowded around poor cappy.
Posted by ibbleblibble at 02/09/2007 @ 7:21pm
Ah yes, Nancy " a mother and grandmother that's putting children first " Pelosi is above using a private jet with the highest standards of accomodation ( i guess the starving children will just have to wait ). Ya Ya, I've heard about hastert and he's a bloated dirtbag himself, yet it's no excuse for Pelosi. This situation just highlights the hypocrisy of LIMOSINE LIBERALS! You know, the one's who tell us " peasants " or " common folk " that we are funding terrorism and causing global warming by driving SUV's while THEY drive SUV's and Jet_SET around the world wasting more fuel than any of us ever will! Like I've stated before, Pelosi is the poster child for hypocrisy! Whether it's concerning this plane fiasco or trying to appoint bribe - taking judges to positions of power a week after stating that she was going to bring ethics back to congress! Just the facts people! I'm sorry that these facts are an " Inconvenient Truth " to most of you seditious idiots, but hey, life isn't fair either! It's OK, sometimes reality hurts, you'll get over it!
Posted by barry25 at 02/09/2007 @ 7:22pm
Gnawing on my cock after I cock-slap you maybe? Son, you've been handled at every turn! You can't hang with me, BOY! I'm top notch! The best! The Truth! Now, if you want some more schoolin', bring it, BIIIAAAATCH!
Posted by barry25 at 02/09/2007 @ 7:25pm
Posted by BARRY25 02/09/2007 @ 7:25pm |
yo yo yo...barry gotz da bling cuz he dont play da libral game! yeeeeaaaahhhh....
he be slappin down da truth!
16? your 16 years old, right? maybe 17? perhaps 20 or an arrested development...25 maybe?
barry, why would i want to hang with you? well you are entertaining in a springeresque way...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 02/09/2007 @ 7:33pm
this is just so much political bickering.
Posted by katamantulo at 02/09/2007 @ 7:33pm
Posted by KATAMANTULO 02/09/2007 @ 7:33pm
yup, pretty much. also a pathetic attempt by discredited sociopathic ideologues to pull their old tricks that worked before people saw them as they really are...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 02/09/2007 @ 7:39pm
Posted by BARRY25 02/09/2007 @ 7:25pm
I always wondered what happened to this guy...
but what of Butt-head?!?!?!?
Posted by Mask at 02/09/2007 @ 7:40pm
Well the loser ain't be gottin' no comebacks to da' facts so he jus' rants cause he 'bout shit his pizzants when he tried to provide a factual comeback to the facts. Son, all you got is silly name-callin'. Look here, Junior, get back to me when you can FACTUALLY dispute the FACTS that I present, which make you so angry! You shouldn't direct you angst at me ( the messenger ), it's Pelosi that's doing these things. It's Pelosi that's the hypocrite. I'm just pointing it out! How come you liberals always attack the messenger and defend the culprit? Oh that's right, it's the MENTAL DISORDER KNOWN AS LIBERALISM that cause it! Well, now you've been diagnosed ( and clowned again ). You really need to pay me for this!
Posted by barry25 at 02/09/2007 @ 7:41pm
Narcicisstic Sociopath: Bill Clinton!
Posted by barry25 at 02/09/2007 @ 7:42pm
Posted by BARRY25 02/09/2007 @ 7:41pm
i got it! an 18 year old hp hoppy neocon budding BROTHER ThEODORE. brilliant! go with it kid!
lets see, what facts? some liberals are hypocrites? for every 5 - 10 slimy republicans you can cite a slimy democrat? or bust out some slanderous insinuative smearing about some other democrat?
your pulling a brother theodore, right? you cant really run around believing your own bullshit, can you?
Posted by ibbleblibble at 02/09/2007 @ 7:48pm
Posted by MASK 02/09/2007 @ 7:40pm
he's baaaaack....
"beaver and butthole, they're gonna LUV you guys here..." from one legged con trying to scare beavis and butthead in "scared stiff" b&b classic, where they check out prison...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 02/09/2007 @ 7:52pm
Barely 2.5, an example of the best butt nuggets America can produce.
Posted by skeletonman at 02/09/2007 @ 8:37pm
BARRY25
i apologize. its been a long week, and as butt lazy as i am, i guess i'm too fatigued and testy to engage in real, cogent, logical argument with people who are not like me...
so i decided to exchange insults with you instead. i hope i have not hurt your feelings and sincerely hope also that you continue coming here and vomitting coulteresque talking point verbal turds all over the carpet...i think they kind of give the place character...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 02/09/2007 @ 8:40pm
Posted by SKELETONMAN 02/09/2007 @ 8:37pm |
i guess he's serious...or as serious as a spoiled adolescent can be...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 02/09/2007 @ 8:49pm
Posted by IBBLEBLIBBLE 02/09/2007 @ 8:49pm
I think that he wishes he could put the big boy pants on.
Or at least that his mother hadn't dressed him in a skirt
Posted by skeletonman at 02/09/2007 @ 8:53pm
To Barry IQ 2.5 amd everyone who doesn't yet have him on the ignore list...
Why give this toddler the time of day?
I've seen more coherent scrawls on shithouse walls.
Let me know the next time you venture out from beneath your rock to San Jose, Barry.
We've got a proper welcome prepared just for you.
Posted by New Dawn at 02/09/2007 @ 8:55pm
But more importantly, I'd like to see the pacifist hippie Johannes (who somehow maintains a shred of credibility with the liberals here while he cowers behind his ignore list, too chickenshit to debate me directly) step up to the plate...
Posted by New Dawn at 02/09/2007 @ 8:59pm
Searched and found it...
BARRY25 [en.wikipedia.org]
Posted by Mask at 02/09/2007 @ 9:19pm
Posted by MASK 02/09/2007 @ 9:19pm
i dont know, mask...he seems to exhibit more buttheadeasque characteristics to me...
which of the two haikus is more barryesque?
that was cool huh huh
when we killed that frog huh huh
it wont croak again
or
heh heh heh heh heh
heh heh heh heh heh heh heh
heh heh heh heh heh
giving barry his due, in all fairness, you gotta pick haiku #1 (butthead)...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 02/09/2007 @ 9:45pm
this is just so much political bickering.
Posted by KATAMANTULO 02/09/2007 @ 7:33pm | ignore this person
you are absolutely right. I'm a bit ashamed to have participated. I'll try to do better. don't give up though, these things tend to come in spurts. another day, another thread.
Posted by johannesrolf at 02/09/2007 @ 10:10pm
Shheeeeesh! This rese character is one sick bastard. It's too late to help that poor soul! 2 full pages of....NOTHING! What a waste of flesh and oxygen! Anyway, since none of you can refute the factual statements that i have made concerning Pelosi's blatantly obvious hypocrisy along with the blatant hypocrisy of the left, I'd have to say my work is done here. Like the little spoiled children you liberal scum are, you'll hate me now for slapping you in the face with reality, but when you grow up you'll thank me and admire my wisdom and insight, just like spoiled rotten children hate their parents when they're selfish youth only to grow up and enter the real world and find out that their evil parents were right all along. It's a tough road for parents, and myself , to take ( the higher road ) but in the end, it's all worth it! You're welcome!
Posted by barry25 at 02/09/2007 @ 10:15pm
Yah, your right, I am that GOOD!
Posted by barry25 at 02/09/2007 @ 10:16pm
Republican apologists for the Bush administration's failed fight in Iraq and their amen corner in the media have been looking for something, anything, to distract the American public from a necessary discussion about the need to end the U.S. occupation of that country.
My guess is this is what all the hubbub is about regarding Global Warming from the left...distraction. Since Democrats haven't had the stones to pull us out, it looks like they may be adopting this war in a few years. By pointing to a "bigger problem" (climate) they get a pass on whatever happens in Iraq. Al Gore had his 8 years to make something happen if it's that alarming.
I think Snow gave the response that it was unfair and unfortunate. Then why the need for this article?
ND...I've always sensed that Johanne had one foot in East Berlin, and one foot in West Berlin.
Posted by Sliver at 02/09/2007 @ 10:17pm
Posted by BARRY25 02/09/2007 @ 10:16pm
If a dingleberry can be said to be "that good," then yes, you are "that good."
Posted by skeletonman at 02/09/2007 @ 10:22pm
ND...I've always sensed that Johanne had one foot in East Berlin, and one foot in West Berlin.
Posted by SLIVER 02/09/2007 @ 10:17pm
Sliver -
Given the idiotic rhetoric in your post above the lines I just pasted, I HATE agreeing with you, but you're right.
Posted by New Dawn at 02/09/2007 @ 11:00pm
Searched and found it...
BARRY25 [en.wikipedia.org]
Posted by MASK 02/09/2007 @ 9:19pm | ignore this person
Mask...comparing Barry25 to Beavis...
...why must you be so cruel...
...to Beavis?
hehe!
Posted by Lillian at 02/09/2007 @ 11:22pm
Please...Can we all just agree to place Beavis...er...Barry25...on ignore?
I mean really...if the 'ignore button' wasn't intended for this feces slinging simian...
...then who else WAS it intended for?
Posted by Lillian at 02/09/2007 @ 11:25pm
Take 1 Israeli Submarine. Place it off the coast of Iran. Now position the USS Enterprise just outside the perimeter established by the Israeli sub.
The sub launches a nuclear tipped cruise missile at the Aircraft Carrier, vaporizing it in an instant - killing all 5,000 sailors on board ("worse than 9/11" - that's the key).
The Fleet Commander notifies the President that Iran has (apparently) just nuked the USS Enterprise.
The President declares a (FALSE FLAG) strike against our carrier to be no different that an attack against our soil, and clears the Israeli sub to launch what will appear to be a retaliatory strike against Iran, with a dozen nuclear missiles (all of which are pre-targeted using the targeting codes stolen by Israeli Spy Ariel Weinmann).
The USS Enterprise is the worlds first nuclear powered aircraft carrier. It was Commissioned in 1961 and is due to be decommissioned in 2014 or 2015. The ship was selected to be the "victim" of this "attack" due to its age.
THOSE PLANNING THE ATTACK ARE INSIDE THE U.S. AND ISRAELI GOVERNMENTS and view the loss of the Enterprise crew as a necessary sacrifice to induce Americans to support war against Iran. Put bluntly, the ship and crew are to be cannon fodder.
Here is the DRESS REHEARSAL for the sinking of the USS Enterprise: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-05-17-ship-reef_x.htm
AND WHY DID THEY FEEL THE NEED FOR THE DRESS REHEARSAL? BECAUSE WHEN THEY TRIED IT A YEAR EARLIER, IT TOOK 25 DAYS TO SINK THE USS AMERICA WITH HIGH EXPLOSIVES! http://www.cdnn.info/news/industry/i050522a.html
Posted by plunger at 02/10/2007 @ 06:34am
Posted by LILLIAN 02/09/2007 @ 11:22pm
Actually IBBLE is right....BARRY [en.wikipedia.org]
Posted by Mask at 02/10/2007 @ 08:09am
ESPECIALLY this line from the wikipedia article...
"Regardless, as the "leader" he is usually 100% confident in everything he says and does -- no matter how ridiculous or frivolous it is."
Posted by Mask at 02/10/2007 @ 08:10am
Projection. The number one behavior of those with hidden agendas, often unrevealed even to their own small and punitive minds.
Posted by lewwelge at 02/10/2007 @ 08:49am
ND...I've always sensed that Johanne had one foot in East Berlin, and one foot in West Berlin.
Posted by SLIVER 02/09/2007 @ 10:17pm | ignore this person
that's cute. one thing to remember is that the east german state was the refuge of the leftist victims of the Nazi regime, at least in the beginning. just like in the US the "communists" and socialists were the progressive elements of their society, the idealists, those willing to stand up for the downtrodden.
I have to take your witticism as a compliment, since it implies that unlike you I do not follow a strict doctrinaire policy. the anti communist witch hunts here in the US were by contrast perpetrated by the worst elements of society, see McCarthy and it must be said Nixon, and Hoover.
so it is today. the right wing are the worst elements, with their stalinist conformity, their unquestioning support for the american empire at its worst, and an american exceptionalism, that permits aggressive war, torture and secret gulags all over the world. I am proud to be attacked by such dregs of our society.
Posted by johannesrolf at 02/10/2007 @ 08:49am
ND...I've always sensed that Johanne had one foot in East Berlin, and one foot in West Berlin.
by contrast ND has his nazi prison guard uniform on under his civvies, and is always ready to torture, as long as the victim is evil enough.
Posted by johannesrolf at 02/10/2007 @ 08:52am
I was watching on Cspan. Called all the attack Repubs, and scolded their aids. for obstructionism, and irrelevency to the business at hand. These little repugs remind me of Oliver Cromwell's "ROUNDHEADS" Yes the Democrats are talking bipartisanship with a hand extended; even when they get little result from it. I don't see them as rolling over or supporting the agenda. They are playing a pretty good chess game. Investigations on many subjects are taking place. Those of you who want instant impeachment have fallen into the media driven propaganda trap of instant gratification! "All things are possible, the immposible just takes a little longer!" ( who?)
Posted by rucognizant at 02/10/2007 @ 09:38am
Reading these posts , I realize America is in bigger trouble than I knew! Lotta children left behind here! R U Cognizant
Posted by rucognizant at 02/10/2007 @ 09:50am
"All things are possible, the immposible just takes a little longer!" ( who?)
Posted by RUCOGNIZANT 02/10/2007 @ 09:38am | ignore this person
I think you will have to claim this one as one of yours. I could find no match at google.
Posted by johannesrolf at 02/10/2007 @ 10:08am
JR, who has ever fielded any Army with more power?
Posted by crabwalk at 02/10/2007 @ 11:18am
"an" Army, sorry.
Posted by crabwalk at 02/10/2007 @ 11:18am
JR, who has ever fielded any Army with more power?
Posted by CRABWALK 02/10/2007 @ 11:18am | ignore this person
Oh, I don't know, Ghengis Khan, Alexander the great, Napoleon?
the track record of this army has been unspectacular. sure we beat Grenada convincingly, made short shrift of Panama.
I thought we were talking about the quality of the soldiers, not the equipment. all in all I preferred the old draft army. I mean we had ELVIS riding on a tank through my childhood woods. try standing in a forest when a tank squadron comes through, that's a noise. if only Muhammed Ali had served, we woulda won in Vietnam.
Posted by johannesrolf at 02/10/2007 @ 11:28am
could he swing those hips in a tank?
Ali served his country far better by willingly going to jail . A true hero.
As far as the Army, I was talking shear power, killing might. But, I would put SEALS or Rangers up against just about anybody. Except maybe the Israeli special forces. The force that rolled into Iraq in 03 was probably one of the most powerful forces ever to engage an enemy. Too bad Chimpy thought they could be used as a diplomatic corp. Armies don't rebuild societies, they are made to break things.
Right CPT?
Posted by crabwalk at 02/10/2007 @ 11:40am
Crab, the quality of an army must be judges by the quality of its opponents. the Blitzkrieg Bop to Baghdad was not a great achievement. take a look at the battle of Kursk, the largest tank battle in world history. I would take the troops that fought in Iwo Jima or Stalingrad over these guys any time.
when we get to the quality of the military leadership, these guys come out poorly too.
Posted by johannesrolf at 02/10/2007 @ 11:48am
judged not judges
I'm not so impressed with the Israelis either, again judged by the quality of their enemies. Arab armies have mostly been a joke. I am ducking because of the incoming I expect from redbird for this.
Posted by johannesrolf at 02/10/2007 @ 11:50am
They took Koresh down didn't they? He was pretty tough.
Posted by crabwalk at 02/10/2007 @ 11:53am
I recommend Liddel Hart "history of world war two" he was the inventor of the tank warfare we know as Blitzkrieg. the british ignored him, but the germans didn't. result? the fall of France and Dunkirk.
Posted by johannesrolf at 02/10/2007 @ 12:00pm
So, the Repugnant posters want to distract us from the plethora of lies and crimes woven by their masters?
The attack on Pelosi's plane is just more desperation from these desperados!
I hope that Pelosi and her staff fly commercially in coach class. Everyone on the plane might learn something about how democracy is sposed to work.
Posted by jkrogman at 02/10/2007 @ 12:02pm
Posted by RUCOGNIZANT 02/10/2007 @ 09:50am
i have yet to meet an adult who is not a grown up child...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 02/10/2007 @ 12:02pm
IBBLE
Some of us fight it all the way. Our toys just get more expensive.
Posted by crabwalk at 02/10/2007 @ 12:13pm
How about sending out the National Guard and Dept Of Homeland Security to find the Arizona delegation, chicken/sheep?
Posted by crabwalk at 02/10/2007 @ 12:27pm
I bet they pulled Packwood of his mistress to get him onto the floor.
"One paraphrase from Senator Packwood's sex diary read as follows: After working late, several of the staff stayed to have drinks and socialize. One attractive woman lingered and hovered around me as the others left one by one. When the two of us were alone near midnight, she said she was very impressed to be able to work with such a powerful man. Then we began to touch each other. After kissing and rubbing, with no one else in the office, we dropped to the carpet for an intense session. Once done, still she stayed and talked, not wanting to leave me. Soon we dropped to the floor for a great second round."
Posted by crabwalk at 02/10/2007 @ 12:32pm
Posted by MADLIB 02/10/2007 @ 2:30pm
i like the terrible twosome, but...
1. unless they are pulling some kind of brother theodore, they almost certainly dont realize how insane they sound...
2. ignore this person - easy and effective way to filter out the sandstorms of conspiracy postings obscuring all other postings...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 02/10/2007 @ 2:58pm
Posted by RIO BRAVO 02/10/2007 @ 1:44pm
well, rio, as i said to your hip hop intellectual progeny, BARRY25, congratulations. you make your point that some democrats are hypocritical and corrupt, like most republicans. furthermore you are eminently capable of shining the white hot spotlight of public indignation on one crooked democrat per every 5 - 10 crooked republicans. bravo, rio! also, like barry, you remind me of my sister's little dog from when i lived with her in college.
her name was "goody" and she was a precious little spastic cockapoo (the dog, that is) who had the delightful habit of fishing through the kitty litter box on a regular basis for a choice little kitty butt nugget, eat it, then for some unknown reason would invariably wander into my bedroom in the wee hours of the morning, and vomit it up. nothing like waking up to a half digested cat turd in the threshhold of one's room. starts the day off just right...
you conbots do much the same. you eat up that propaganistic right wing crap, half digest it, then puke it up here and elsewhere. i liked my sisters dog and i like you guys too, but the half digested cat turds are disgusting...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 02/10/2007 @ 3:11pm
i have yet to meet an adult who is not a grown up child...
Posted by IBBLEBLIBBLE 02/10/2007 @ 12:02am | ignore this person
the child is father to the man.
Posted by johannesrolf at 02/10/2007 @ 6:08pm
ND...I've always sensed that Johanne had one foot in East Berlin, and one foot in West Berlin.
by contrast ND has his nazi prison guard uniform on under his civvies, and is always ready to torture, as long as the victim is evil enough.
Posted by JOHANNESROLF 02/10/2007 @ 08:52am
I'm going to tell you again, Johannes, while you cower beind your ignore list, if you ever have the opportunity to call me a Nazi to my face, I am going to liberate all of your teeth from their moorings.
Somebody pass the message along.
Posted by New Dawn at 02/11/2007 @ 02:41am
Ali served his country far better by willingly going to jail . A true hero.
As far as the Army, I was talking shear power, killing might. But, I would put SEALS or Rangers up against just about anybody. Except maybe the Israeli special forces. The force that rolled into Iraq in 03 was probably one of the most powerful forces ever to engage an enemy. Too bad Chimpy thought they could be used as a diplomatic corp. Armies don't rebuild societies, they are made to break things.
Right CPT?
Posted by CRABWALK 02/10/2007 @ 11:40am
Have you read Dick Marcinko, Crab? You'd appreciate his books. Consider it a friendly recommendation, and let me know what you think.
Posted by New Dawn at 02/11/2007 @ 02:44am
just like in the US the "communists" and socialists were the progressive elements of their society, the idealists, those willing to stand up for the downtrodden.
Oh sure. And I suppose you believe that the wall was built to keep the West Germans out, rather than the East Germans in. Right, JR?
Posted by Sliver at 02/11/2007 @ 4:27pm