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RedditIt's easy to dismiss the the multitude of ceremonies surrounding Barack Obama's inauguration as typical pomp and theatrics, especially in light of the economic crisis.
But it's difficult to understate the impact of Obama's election to the crowds in Washington, particularly among the rainbow coalition that powered his campaign, more specifically the Millennial Generation and people of color.
On Monday afternoon, the Congressional Black Caucus assembled black leaders from across the globe to celebrate the life of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and the inauguration of Obama at Washington's historic Metropolitan AME Church, where Frederick Douglas and many other black pioneers worshipped.
House Majority Whip James Clyburn, the highest ranking African-American in the history of Congress, told the story of the first time he met Dr. King. It was the winter of 1960, Clyburn was a student at South Carolina State University and four of his peers had just been arrested for sitting at a lunch counter in Greensboro, North Carolina. Clyburn took a bus to Atlanta for what was billed as a "short meeting" with Dr. King. He and his fellow students were beginning to doubt the efficacy of King's doctrine of non-violence. "That short meeting ended at 4 am," Clyburn, who is now 68, recalled. "I walked out of that room a changed person. I have never been the same again."
Clyburn, owing to his long friendship with the Clintons, didn't endorse Obama until late in the Democratic primary. But throughout the political season, it became clear who Clyburn was truly pulling for. "A lot of people broke their silence on November 4," Clyburn said. He termed the election of Obama "V-Day,"--"not for victory, but for vindication. Not for victory, but for validation."
Validation of King's dream was a major theme throughout the day. The keynote, fittingly enough, was delivered by South African Nobel Peace Prize winner Desmond Tutu, who's spent his life fighting passionately and eloquently for equal rights. "I can't think of anybody more appropriate to help us celebrate the realization of this dream than Archbishop Desmond Tutu," Congresswoman Barbara Lee said in her introduction.
I hope Tutu's speech makes its way onto YouTube, because it was truly powerful to hear. "Isn't it awesome that the inauguration of the first African-American president of the United States of America should happen a day after Martin Luther King Day," Tutu marveled. "Hey, is this for real? Is tomorrow for real? No, no, no, no, it's can't be true! A black man, president of the United States, in the White House?!"
That was the line of the day. Tutu likened Obama's election to Nelson Mandela's, the first democratically elected president of South Africa. "In '94, with Mandela, we had a similar dreamlike phenomenon," he said. A South African friend told his wife, "darling, please don't wake me, I like this dream."
Tutu put those elections in historical perspective. "How many tears have we cried? How much pain have we endured? How many of our people have died? Thank you for this awesome miracle."
When John F. Kennedy was elected in 1960, Tutu recalled, "there was a thrill around the world, but not anything quite like this. This is unique."
He urged Obama not to squander the promise of this moment, and to return America to the moral high ground once again. "The world is waiting for America to be a leader once again, but not an America of bully-boy tactics," he urged.
Tutu elucidated what such leadership might look like: "A leader that says, 'Climate change is here, let's not pussyfoot around'...An America that won't tolerate abominations like Guantanamo Bay. No!...Torture is torture, the world is waiting for an America that says, "No to torture!" An America, he continued, that ratifies the International Criminal Court, sending a message to despots in places like Zimbabwe, Sudan, Burma and Tibet that "there is no impunity, there is nowhere for you to hide." If the impending inauguration of Obama is possible, Tutu said, then so is all of this.
"God has been waiting," Tutu said, "to hear us say: Yes We Can!"
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Desmond Tutu, Black Leaders Celebrate King & Obama
maybe they should talk to d.c.'s homeless.
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/19/2009 @ 6:02pm
frosty - why don't you donate whatever you can to some organization that feeds homeless people and drop your incessant "I've got to make people feel guilty for celebrating the first black president in the history of a country that was built on the backs of black slaves."
Yes, it's expensive. But it's also symbolic.
Posted by urmygyro at 01/19/2009 @ 6:19pm
Validation of King's dream was a major theme throughout the day.
<<<>>>
...And one day we must ask the question, Why are there forty million poor people in America? And when you begin to ask that question, you are raising questions about the economic system, about a broader distribution of wealth. When you ask that question, you begin to question the capitalistic economy. And I'm simply saying that more and more, we've got to begin to ask questions about the whole society...
Martin Luther King
<<<>>>
According to the U.S. Conference of Mayors, the demand for emergency shelter in 270 U.S. cities increased 13% in 2001 and 25% in 2005. 22 percent of those requesting emergency shelter were turned away. With budgets squeezed dry, cities across the U.S. adopted a closed-door attitude toward the displaced. For example:
The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey banned panhandling in PATH subway stations and bus terminals;
In Atlanta, Georgia, Mayor Maynard Jackson proposed a policy of licensing panhandlers, it was not adopted.
The University of California, Berkeley ordered repeated police sweeps of People's Park and evicted the People's Cafe soup kitchen.
In Santa Cruz, California, dozens of homeless were repeatedly arrested for sleeping outside the local United States Post Office.
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/19/2009 @ 6:24pm
yeah, symbolic of indifference.
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/19/2009 @ 6:25pm
happy, that's nuts.
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/19/2009 @ 6:34pm
frosty - homeless people are not oppressed as a group.
any one of any color and sex and religion can become homeless.
people in the history of this country who had the same skin color (or darker) than barack obama were oppressed.
you can try to make tomorrow seem unimportant - but the symbolism is huge.
Posted by urmygyro at 01/19/2009 @ 6:36pm
i understand, urmy.
and of course it's awesome to see a "negro" in the white house.
but this celebration is so selfish.
me, in mr. obama's position (don't laugh) would say, "wait just one moment. how can i set an example of frugality and compassion in these trying times? we can't just sweep people under the rug of 'celebration'".
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/19/2009 @ 6:38pm
who's being swept under a rug of celebration?
Posted by urmygyro at 01/19/2009 @ 6:40pm
6,000 homeless folks
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/19/2009 @ 6:42pm
test post, first draft:
A BRIEF NOTE TO THE NATION AND ITS BLOG POSTERS --at an Historic Juncture
IN light of the recent communications from Katrina vanden Heuvel to posters at her "Editors Cut" blog I offer a few thoughts.
When I conjure my earliest encounters with The Nation blogs in '03 or '04 –I can't recall exactly when--I clearly remember being rather repulsed by the gang of "doorway loiterers" as I referred to them then. My feelings haven't changed much in that regard, and it's with some degree of trepidation that I continue to post here periodically for fear of being too closely associated with some of the –to be frank-- cretins who gather at this watering hole, and all too often refuse to have the decency to avoid defecating while drinking. Note: One excellent way to improve the water quality here would be for more smart lefties (and righties) to join the fray.
I dearly wish that there was a succinct and tidy solution to this sordid situation –a vote off the island policy, perhaps--but until that happens I also think that it is important to amplify the positive feedback of some of the more humane and uplifting posters here (can you believe it KvH? They DO exist!.... ;-). As "One Vote", and Eric the "Malcontent" were sharing the other day, this is perhaps the best American political blogging site on the web precisely because of the (in large measure) lack of censorship and the presence of the voices of the common man and woman, and it would be a terrible shame if The Nation were to eventually cave in to the strong pressure that almost certainly exists to shut this –admittedly often excrement covered-- little gem down, or otherwise water it down.
Posted by b_kool_66 at 01/19/2009 @ 6:53pm
As an aside to this is the concern that I –and I imagine many others as well-- have that as much as we enjoy periodically seeing our favorite Nation commentators on such MSM television fair as Stephanopoulos etc... it also raises serious concerns about the ability of The Nation to continue to bring us the hard hitting fare –i.e. Jeremy Scahill, Naomi Klein, Tom Dispatch and many others--that is the primary driving force behind our love of The Nation magazine in the first place (along with much else, to be sure). This is not to mention the fact that those more forceful opinions are –understandably, I suppose-- never to be found on Stephanopoulos etc... even when The Nation commentators are invited guests.
In closing, I would like to strike a more philosophical note. In Richard Dawkins powerfully written cri de coeur, "The God Delusion", he ends with the perhaps a bit mystical but nonetheless evocative sentence, ".....eventually, we may find that there are no limits". I urge all of us to strive for that concept in our own lives and in society writ large. It is entirely up to us to decide what kind of thinkers and conversers we will be here at The Nation, and The Nation can continue to be an able vehicle for our hopes and dreams of a better, more just society if it continues to stand for the best that we humans have to offer.
And by all means, let's put the heat on Obama!
Posted by b_kool_66 at 01/19/2009 @ 6:53pm
explain your metaphor "swept under the rug"
Posted by urmygyro at 01/19/2009 @ 7:00pm
For you from another thread since you seem so intend to discover my reading habits..
650 climastists met this week... debunked global warmoing..
A link
"Umbryo,
Here is a link for you.
Global warming debunked today..
http://www.mlive.com/opinion/flint/index.
ssf/2009/01/its_time_to_pray_for_global_w
a.html
Posted by YourJomamma at 01/19/2009 @ 7:24pm
- but the symbolism is huge.
Posted by urmygyro at 01/19/2009 @ 6:36pm | ignore this person | warn this person
And that seems to define the left for most of us for years..
Style over substance..symbolisim over results..
Now we wait for the results...but fiorst, you have better lock up your wealth before it disappears..
Posted by YourJomamma at 01/19/2009 @ 7:26pm
yeah right - a country that created wealth (you know that thing you're so concerned with) on the backs of black slaves - now sees a black man sworn in as president.
i'm sure that flies right over your head.
Posted by urmygyro at 01/19/2009 @ 7:38pm
"a country that was built on the backs of black slaves."
Country built on the backs of slaves?
A failing, Southern, unsustainable system where the rest of the country was industrialising, and realising slavery,besides the immoral and inhuman side, was also a losing system economicly? A few million people working for nothing in fields built the country?
Blacks were treat horriblely after slavery was abolished..a case could be made treated WORSE after slavery..
A national recognition of change is attitude and maturing of our land is what is celebrated today...
The celebration of a black president today..acknowleges..
the complete 180 degree turn around of a society in its own views is what is being celebrated today..
a success of American ideals is celebrated today..
the system the FF set up is being celebrated today..
but acknowlegement that the country was built on the backs of a few farm slaves 200 years ago is being celebrated today?
If your logic holds true, then Egypt should be the worlds power house today..since the Pyramids are all built by slaves...
Posted by YourJomamma at 01/19/2009 @ 7:38pm
650 climastists met this week... debunked global warmoing..
Posted by YourJomamma at 01/19/2009 @ 7:24pm | ignore this person | warn this person
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Uh, John, instead of just reading some winf-nut columnist and then spouting his line, you might actually try doing a bit of research. Try looking at the actual website of the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change, which is why they met...
http://unfccc.int/2860.php
To the surprise of absolutely no one...
...they said the exact opposit of what your looney wing-nut columnist pretended they said!
(You might be better off just doing cut-and-pastes from those spam emails you get from being on the Rush Limbaugh email list, John.)
Posted by Lillian at 01/19/2009 @ 7:41pm
a "few" slaves?
you've got some real issues.
Posted by urmygyro at 01/19/2009 @ 7:47pm
you've got some real issues.
Posted by urmygyro at 01/19/2009 @ 7:47pm
You count them for me..
whether 1 or 2 miliion over x numbers of years...
the point is not how many, but rather the work they did for nothing did not build any country..
it did make a few fucks rich..
..and caused 500,000 dead..many freeing the slaves, including my relative who survived the CW...
He is one for you..
Senator Schlossberg...
Symbolism over substance?
Or ois it Senator Kennedy now?
Either way..NY got screwed.
Posted by YourJomamma at 01/19/2009 @ 7:56pm
According to the 1860 U.S. census, nearly four million slaves were held in a total population of just over 12 million in the 15 states in which slavery was legal.[4] Of all 8,289,782 free persons in the 15 slave states, 393,967 people (4.8%) held slaves, with the average number of slaves held by any single owner being 10.
yeah - just a 'few' slaves.
uh-huh.
keep tellin' yourself that.
Posted by urmygyro at 01/19/2009 @ 8:00pm
"Maybe it is just the victimology ideology so popular today that makes it so!"
funny, republicans complaining about high taxes seems to fit the victim definition so well.
Posted by urmygyro at 01/19/2009 @ 8:05pm
Posted by urmygyro at 01/19/2009 @ 8:00pm
Good one google boy...
explain to any of us how 4 millions farm workers being treated like chattel making a few planters rich for a generation or 2 built the country?
define built the country might be a good place to start.
Posted by YourJomamma at 01/19/2009 @ 8:09pm
"google boy"
hahahahahahahahahahahaha!
that is rich - from the clown who seeks out an article written by a liberal hater to "debunk" global warming.
Posted by urmygyro at 01/19/2009 @ 8:15pm
Here's a poem that I wrote for my Diversity Club's Poetry Slam in honor of Martin Luther King's Birthday last year. I thought I'd share it.
The Baton of Hope
As we look to the hope of another New Year we cast away fear draw our loved ones near perhaps shed a tear as we join in the cheer We prepare for deeds of hope by looking at our past holding progress fast effecting change that lasts challenging old casts with our potential vast There's a baton of hope we pass to you that leaves behind subjugation forced humiliation violent degradation silent desperation to replace with education We honor King by letting you know this baton is intergenerational its principle foundational the golden rule's transformational like Rachel's challenge, motivational and we see you--as inspirational Our baton is made of human voices and eyes so deep with need and hands that do believe they can succeed resisting greed and crimes that bleed to form a creed and truly lead "America the beautiful, God sheds His Grace on thee "and crown thy good with brotherhood "from sea to shining sea." Can we be King's dream and free those changes made for equality? The answer lies in we not me.
Posted by PrairieDeb at 01/19/2009 @ 8:16pm
that is rich - from the clown who seeks out an article written by a liberal hater to "debunk" global warming.
Posted by urmygyro at 01/19/2009 @ 8:15pm
Why is it so hard for you?...the article and author doesn't matter...what he reported ON is the issue...and that is the fact that 650 scientist got together and decide global warming is not a fact based on CO2 from man.
THAT SHOULD BE YOUR CONCERN...not the guy who reported on the meeting...but the conclusions of the meeting itself...you are shooting the messenger and not reading the message..
classic.
Posted by YourJomamma at 01/19/2009 @ 8:20pm
"...my Diversity Club's .."
sigh.
Posted by YourJomamma at 01/19/2009 @ 8:21pm
happy, that's nuts.
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/19/2009 @ 6:34pm
Poor HAPP has lost his financial and POLITICAL portfolio in the past 3 months.
I guess we could give him SOME sympathy.
Posted by Mask at 01/19/2009 @ 8:21pm
"THAT SHOULD BE YOUR CONCERN...not the guy who reported on the meeting...but the conclusions of the meeting itself...you are shooting the messenger and not reading the message.."
so when the mainstream media put scientists on who report that global warming is real - you shoot the messenger and ignore the message.
classic.
Posted by urmygyro at 01/19/2009 @ 8:25pm
Posted by urmygyro at 01/19/2009 @ 8:25pm
I've actually heard Glenn Beck say that "proponents of global warming are in it for the money."
But mention the scientific field of THEIR scientists...or links to American Petroleum Institute front groups and "grants" and they say "You just want to smear your opposition!!!"
Posted by Mask at 01/19/2009 @ 8:33pm
typical, naturally
Posted by urmygyro at 01/19/2009 @ 8:36pm
Why is it so hard for you?...the article and author doesn't matter...what he reported ON is the issue...and that is the fact that 650 scientist got together and decide global warming is not a fact based on CO2 from man.
Posted by YourJomamma at 01/19/2009 @ 8:20pm | ignore this person | warn this person
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Well, except that's not why 650 scientists got together...
...OR what they decided. Did you even bother to read beyond the wing-nut columnist John?
I didn't think so - obviously!
(Talk about 'classic')
Posted by Lillian at 01/19/2009 @ 8:41pm
Lil,
Here... "If you're wondering why North America is starting to resemble nuclear winter, then you missed the news.
At December's U.N. Global Warming conference in Poznan, Poland, 650 of the world's top climatologists stood up and said man-made global warming is a media generated myth without basis. Said climatologist Dr. David Gee, Chairman of the International Geological Congress, "For how many years must the planet cool before we begin to understand that the planet is not warming?"
I asked myself, why would such obviously smart guy say such a ridiculous thing? But it turns out he's right.
The earth's temperature peaked in 1998. It's been falling ever since; it dropped dramatically in 2007 and got worse in 2008, when temperatures touched 1980 levels.
Meanwhile, the University of Illinois' Arctic Climate Research Center released conclusive satellite photos showing that Arctic ice is back to 1979 levels. What's more, measurements of Antarctic ice now show that its accumulation is up 5 percent since 1980.
In other words, during what was supposed to be massive global warming, the biggest chunks of ice on earth grew larger. Just as an aside, do you remember when the hole in the ozone layer was going to melt Antarctica? But don't worry, we're safe now, that was the nineties.
Dr. Kunihiko, Chancellor of Japan's Institute of Science and Technology said this: "CO2 emissions make absolutely no difference one way or the other ... every scientist knows this, but it doesn't pay to say so." Now why would a learned man say such a crazy thing?
This is where the looney left gets lost. Their mantra is atmospheric CO2 levels are escalating and this is unquestionably causing earth's temperature rise. But ask yourself -- if global temperatures are ..
Posted by YourJomamma at 01/19/2009 @ 9:07pm
"...my Diversity Club's .."
sigh.
Posted by YourJomamma at 01/19/2009 @ 8:21pm
It is a high school club of which I am the advisor. We support issues of fairness and justice. It is a great club and I love seeing justice through the lens of our young people.
Posted by PrairieDeb at 01/19/2009 @ 9:08pm
continue to rise -- how can it be true?
Ironically, in spite of being shown false, we must now pray for it. Because a massive study, just released by the Russian Government, contains overwhelming evidence that earth is on the verge of another Ice Age.
Based on core samples from Russia's Vostok Station in Antarctica, we now know earth's atmosphere and temperature for the last 420,000 years. This evidence suggests that the 12,000 years of warmth we call the Holocene period is over.
Apparently, we're headed into an ice age of about 100,000 years -- give or take. As for CO2 levels, core samples show conclusively they follow the earth's temperature rise, not lead it.
It turns out CO2 fluctuations follow the change in sea temperature. As water temperatures rise, oceans release additional dissolved CO2 -- like opening a warm brewsky.
To think, early last year, liberals suggested we spend 45 trillion dollars and give up five million jobs to fix global warming. But there is good news: now that we don't have to spend any of that money, we can give it all to the banks.
Lil,
You tell me what this says that the 650 concluded.
Posted by YourJomamma at 01/19/2009 @ 9:09pm
YJ - who are the 650?
I read the link. There's no mention of actual people.
Posted by urmygyro at 01/19/2009 @ 9:14pm
It is a high school club of which I am the advisor. We support issues of fairness and justice. It is a great club and I love seeing justice through the lens of our young people.
Posted by PrairieDeb at 01/19/2009 @ 9:08pm
Good. Trouble is, life is not fair or just...and they had better be prepared for that fact or you send them out there to be slaughtered...and future govt dependents.
My 17 year old came home last week and said his economics teacher said capitalism has failed and there are no more high or well paying jobs anymore and the govt needs to step in and protect the American worker...well,yes, I told him, a $60k a year job to put lug nuts on cars type jobs are extinct excep[t in the unions and there it is in ita last gasp..along with GM. And the future ius not there...he needs to look ahead..and I will teach him.
I told him his econ teacheknows as much about the economy, economics, the free enterprise system and how the real world works, as his diversity training class teacher knows about cooking...and this explains why our students today think the economy works because our govt makes it work.
I told him teaching about the economy is all this clown can obviously do...and to ignore him and I would consider a grade of F from this idiot to be a badge of honor...
and I am in the process of showing how the economy works on a practical level as we build our business and export our products, where 4 years ago ther was nothing but an idea and a discussion...and how we try to keep his econ teacher types as far away from the projects like ours as possible.. unfortunately, his types somehow end up in govt and make all our jobs more difficult and harder to keep.
I am sure he is tenured.
Posted by YourJomamma at 01/19/2009 @ 9:21pm
YJ - poor victim.
the poor conservative republican victims.
Posted by urmygyro at 01/19/2009 @ 9:24pm
I read the link. There's no mention of actual people.
Posted by urmygyro at 01/19/2009 @ 9:14pm
You do the research if you need their names..would it matter if you did or didn't know their names?..
email the author and ask for a list..or follow up with the organization who held the conference...
I am just pointing out that it was reported that 650 disagree with your point of view...that they are climatologists, and scientists..not politicians...as far as I could tell.
here..
1....Said climatologist Dr. David Gee, Chairman of the International Geological Congress, ..google him.
2."..Meanwhile, the University of Illinois' Arctic Climate Research Center released conclusive satellite photos showing that Arctic ice is back to 1979 ...try this. google this place.
3. Dr. Kunihiko, Chancellor of Japan's Institute of Science and Technology said this: "CO2 emissions make absolutely no difference one way or the other ...try him...google him.
4. At December's U.N. Global Warming conference in Poznan, Poland.. try this...it has the UN in it...you should like that... google this .
These are from the article you "read".
Do you know these guys? Should anyone care if you know these guys?
How about a conference with Q and A with these guys and ALGORE?
Where is ALGORE anyway?
Posted by YourJomamma at 01/19/2009 @ 9:29pm
...who somehow manage to spend massive amounts of leisure time gabbing anonymously on websites.
tough life.
Posted by urmygyro at 01/19/2009 @ 9:30pm
YJ - poor victim.
the poor conservative republican victims.
Posted by urmygyro at 01/19/2009 @ 9:24pm
I refuse to be a victim or let my family become one..
As I have said , I have, as many, many others have, already taken steps to protect me and mine as best I am able..to not do so and let the govt hacks come in and pick my pockets would be irresponsible.
I do agree on one thing I have heard not too long ago...there is a revolutoin coming..and it not the OBAMA revolution..
Atlas Shrugged is here already.
Posted by YourJomamma at 01/19/2009 @ 9:36pm
Posted by lvliberty1 at 01/19/2009 @ 9:39pm
They never read the article to the end.
Posted by YourJomamma at 01/19/2009 @ 9:40pm
YJ - here's the International Geological Congress's web page:
http://www.33igc.org/coco/LayoutPage.aspx
Scroll down and look at the sponsors.
Lotta oil and energy companies.
hmmm...what could be fishy there?
snap!
Posted by urmygyro at 01/19/2009 @ 9:42pm
I love the ayn rand dream. ayn rand wrote about leaders of technology the world could not live without.
and yourjomamma puts himself in that list - hahahahaha!
that's the funniest joke i've read on this site EVER!
Posted by urmygyro at 01/19/2009 @ 9:44pm
Lotta oil and energy companies.
hmmm...what could be fishy there?
snap!
Posted by urmygyro at 01/19/2009 @ 9:42pm
Ahhhh, it is the source sponsors that bothers you...your source sponsors bother me too..I understand.
The people who bring you $1.50 oil today?
Well, never mind then...I should rather see something brought to us by Hollywood?
By Sean Penn? Larry David? Algore? Ted Danson?
University of Illinois?
Come on....who benefits from a crisis in Global warming/cooling/whatever it is this time?...
who get to collect the money? EXXON or ALGORE types?
Who makes more from a gallon of gas..EXXON or the GOVT? Who is about to raise the price even more? EXXON or GOVT? Is it windfall profits if Govt taxes(raises price) by $ 1.00 a gallon...should I doubt the global warming disciples because the govt sponsors them? Because 3rd world advocates sponsor them? or Browner of the Socialist world supports them?
Good night. Its been nice playing with you..over seas emails are done... and now so are you.
Posted by YourJomamma at 01/19/2009 @ 9:52pm
YJ - your comprehension skills prove you're a mental weakling.
If the public is convinced of global warming - they're not going to want oil companies to drill for more oil.
when there's no more oil to sell - oil companies are out of work.
DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH!
you're a mental midget.
(say hello to your red-underweared wife. hope you took your blue pills already)
Posted by urmygyro at 01/19/2009 @ 9:56pm
Posted by urmygyro at 01/19/2009 @ 9:44pm
Replace "technology the world could not live without. "... with wealth and job creators or with the tax paying class...and see if the result would not be the same.
California is emptying out because of the very thing you want to create nationaly...California and every state that is out of money and wanht to bnorrow have been run by dems entirely for the most part...
And Californians have given up on the ballot box and took to voting with their feet...
The trend will continue unless we get "HOPE AND CHANGE"...and it is not Obama, Pelosi, Reid, or Barney Frank, ...
Posted by YourJomamma at 01/19/2009 @ 9:56pm
(say hello to your red-underweared wife. hope you took your blue pills already)
Posted by urmygyro at 01/19/2009 @ 9:56pm |
Under wear is pink.. and she knows you...she read your drivel.
The question you might want to ask is what will the people do when your types have raised the price of oil, which we have hundreds of years supply left, to such a high level, and then kill off production as their furnaces grow cold in winter...and you tell them..be cool, you are saving the planet...my guess is you will soon be on the endangered species list.
I will bet they will want to drill through reindeers head and yours in any area of the country to get the oil you tell them is off limits...
Posted by YourJomamma at 01/19/2009 @ 10:01pm
Adios...hot tub time.
Posted by YourJomamma at 01/19/2009 @ 10:01pm
o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o
m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-y-y-y-y-y-y-y-y-y-y
goooooooooooooooooooooooood! (god)
today is the last day of bush!
0 DAYS 13 Hrs 44 Min 12.9 Sec
i swear i've aged 317 years in the last eight....
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/19/2009 @ 10:16pm
HELP!
this place is turning into sjchernakland:
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January 19, 2009 at 6:11 PM EST
An American academic and former 1960s radical accused by U.S. vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin of being a "terrorist" friend of Barack Obama's has been denied entry into Canada to speak at an education conference.
William Ayers, a distinguished education professor from the University of Illinois at Chicago, said he was perplexed and disappointed when the Canada Border Services Agency declared him inadmissible at the Toronto City Centre Airport on Sunday evening.
He said he has travelled to Canada more than a dozen times in the past.
"It seems very arbitrary," he said. "The border agent said I had a conviction for a felony from 1969. I have several arrests for misdemeanours, but not for felonies."
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/19/2009 @ 10:17pm
explain your metaphor "swept under the rug"
Posted by urmygyro at 01/19/2009 @ 7:00pm
shuttled away.
hide the poor folks.
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/19/2009 @ 10:21pm
"According to the 1860 U.S. census, nearly four million slaves were held in a total population of just over 12 million in the 15 states in which slavery was legal.[4] Of all 8,289,782 free persons in the 15 slave states, 393,967 people (4.8%) held slaves, with the average number of slaves held by any single owner being 10."
Those numbers pale in comparison to the number enslaved by the measly $613 monthy stipends sent out each month in 2009.
The shackles are still in place.
If Obama can break today's shackles he'll be greater than Lincoln.
Posted by bleedingheart at 01/19/2009 @ 10:24pm
a country that created wealth (you know that thing you're so concerned with) on the backs of black slaves -
Posted by urmygyro at 01/19/2009 @ 7:38pm
don't forget the "ethnic cleansing" of the aboriginal peoples.
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/19/2009 @ 10:24pm
Posted by YourJomamma at 01/19/2009 @ 9:07pm
MAASCH, again, why is it always "Al Gore" and "the looney left"?
The PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, whom you had to grudgingly vote for...
said the same thing.
So who's the "fringe"? You or the mainstream who believe global warming is real and man-made?
Posted by Mask at 01/19/2009 @ 10:28pm
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/19/2009 @ 10:21pm
FROSTY, sometimes I wonder about you...
is it "purest of the pure Canadian progressive, hater of injustices, no matter the size"...
or Harry Hairshirt of Ottawa.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cilice
Posted by Mask at 01/19/2009 @ 10:31pm
StatoilHydro ASA (OSE: STL, NYSE: STO) is a Norwegian energy company, formed by the 2007 merger of Statoil with the oil and gas division of Norsk Hydro.[2] StatoilHydro is the biggest offshore oil and gas company in the world[3] and the largest company by revenue in the Nordic Region.[4] The company is a fully-integrated petroleum company with production operations in thirteen countries and retail operations in eight.
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Norway's annual oil revenue amounts to around $40bn (£21bn), and more than half of its exports come from this sector. ...
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/19/2009 @ 10:35pm
The question you might want to ask is what will the people do when your types have raised the price of oil, which we have hundreds of years supply left, to such a high level, and then kill off production as their furnaces grow cold in winter . Posted by YourJomamma at 01/19/2009 @ 10:01pm
who cares? oil is poison.
THE SUN. IT'S HOT!
Drake Landing, Canada's first, and North America's largest, solar community, officially launched September 13th with partners from across the country in attendance. Among the participants was EnerWorks, Inc. a leading North American developer and manufacturer of solar thermal systems based on technology developed in cooperation with Queen's University. EnerWorks provided the solar technology for the project: 904 solar collectors and ancillary equipment which will provide solar space and domestic hot water heating to the community's 52 homes.
Approximately 800 EnerWorks solar collectors have been mounted on roofs of interconnected garages in the Drake Landing community. Covering more than 2,300 square metres in total area, these panels will generate up to 1.5 megawatts of thermal power. During the summer, solar energy will be collected and stored in a series of 144 boreholes deep under the neighbourhood park. In the winter, heat will be extracted from the field and delivered to the homes as hot water through underground, insulated pipes. On sunny days, solar energy will be collected and delivered directly to the homes.
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/19/2009 @ 10:38pm
that's funny mask.
no, i'm very happy. i enjoy life very much.
and i'm VERY happy to see mr. bush gone:
0 DAYS 13 Hrs 18 Min 10.0 Sec
and of all the "candidates" offered by the powers that be, mr. obama seems the most palatable.
yet there is something wrong with spending $2000000000000000000000 on a party when you have to hide the poor folks first.
¿no?
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/19/2009 @ 10:43pm
i can't even wear wool.
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/19/2009 @ 10:44pm
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/19/2009 @ 10:21pm | ignore this person | warn this person
frosty - the homeless that sleep in and around the mall in d.c. have to be cleared out like anyone else. it's for security's sake. they can resume their spots after tomorrow. it's one day - and it's not as if it's their property.
c'mon now.
Posted by urmygyro at 01/19/2009 @ 11:19pm
Funny how FEW countries in the world were NOT built on the backs of some people being enslaved! Never have figured out why BLACKS feel they are so very special because of their enslavement? Maybe it is just the victimology ideology so popular today that makes it so! ---Posted by comanchenation
I answered that phoney baloney already. You stop complaining about taxes--then I won't mention slavery.
but lord knows you live to complain about taxes!
Posted by urmygyro at 01/19/2009 @ 11:22pm
I don't make my living through taxes - I'm not a gov't worker.
here's the truth--you LIVE to complain about taxes. you will never stop complaining about taxes. You complain that black people are buying into a "victimology ideology" (nice way to make your words sound "important" by the way, you dolt) -- but you're a million times worse with taxes.
comanchenation will be holding Victimology Ideology 101 for white conservative males starting tomorrow. Be sure to get your spot before the class fills up - sure to be a popular one!
Posted by urmygyro at 01/19/2009 @ 11:31pm
Posted by YourJomamma at 01/19/2009 @ 9:29pm
JM here's one of our sceptics, a biologist, name of Jennifer Marohasy. Not a bad site.
BTW another colder Melbourne summer with lots of seemingly cooler days than I can remember during past summers. Not so good for swimming but has the advantage of more time for checking out this season's bikinis. Funny the smaller the bikini the more it costs but I'm not complaining.
http://jennifermarohasy.com/blog/
Posted by lrjones4 at 01/19/2009 @ 11:38pm
"So, where are my posts about all the taxation without proper representation? Hey, come to think of it that IS what we have now and I think the last time that happened Americans did something about it and became AMERICANS! You must be a commie!?"
ooooooooh - a "commie"
nice one!
Posted by urmygyro at 01/19/2009 @ 11:40pm
i can't even wear wool.
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/19/2009 @ 10:44pm
Why can't you wear wool?
They don't kill the dumb animal, just shave his ass bald and let him shiver for a few weeks.
Posted by Benchrest at 01/19/2009 @ 11:42pm
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/19/2009 @ 10:38pm
Few questions for you Frost:
They guys aren't totally off the grid, so what are the leasing fees for the transmission lines? From what I gather from your post, those solar panels are not owned outright by the homeowner, correct?
What's the battery life on those solar containers?
And, what does EnerWorks say regarding how soon will these folks see any savings in their energy bills?
Posted by ACook at 01/20/2009 @ 12:07am
<i>Posted by urmygyro at 01/19/2009 @ 11:19pm </i>
What do you mean, "cleared out like anyone else"? Who else is "cleared out"? Moreover, the "it's not their property" seems like an awfully weak excuse for the blunt fact that the government is leaving homeless people with very few places to go. It'll help that a number of churches and perhaps other institutions are taking them in, but still...
Posted by Thrawn at 01/20/2009 @ 12:16am
Mr jones,
Thanks for the site. I think Umbryo should check it out.
BTW, can you find me a link to a Non Destructive Testing company in your country? There is a fee in it for you if we can connect with one to carry our equipment.
Posted by YourJomamma at 01/20/2009 @ 12:31am
Posted by Thrawn at 01/20/2009 @ 12:16am
I mean cleared out like anyone else. Have you watched any t.v. tonight? there were already lots of people hanging out at the mall, and many said they would set up a tent and sleep and hold a spot if they could. the mall is being cleared out tonight and everyone has to be searched to gain access tomorrow.
Posted by urmygyro at 01/20/2009 @ 12:34am
wool's itchy.
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/20/2009 @ 12:55am
acook:
http://www.dlsc.ca/
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/20/2009 @ 12:56am
BTW, can you find me a link to a Non Destructive Testing company in your country? There is a fee in it for you if we can connect with one to carry our equipment.
Posted by YourJomamma at 01/20/2009 @ 12:31am
Ultrasonic or X-ray? I take it it is for metals testing on such things as welds? Haven't got a name off the top of my head but will see what I can find. We use a few companies that perform spectrographic analysis of metals and thought they may also do non- destructive testing but don't seem to, so probably don't know of a potential distributor.
Will do a bit of inquiring around tomorrow (6.44pm now) at companies that do pipework for process plants if that is a relevant application. They should be able to put us on to a distributor of that sort of equipment .
No fee. It will be gratis if I can help.
Posted by lrjones4 at 01/20/2009 @ 02:45am
If Jomamma and frosty zoom must plague this site, please stop whining and think of something intelligent and productive to say; otherwise go away.
Posted by wfunkhouser at 01/20/2009 @ 03:36am
WFUNKHOUSER,.
Jomamma and Frosty Zoom have had many intelligent and poignant contributions to this site, old boy. If you are having too much trouble grasping them then maybe you should go away.
Posted by CHIP THORNTON at 01/20/2009 @ 08:05am
The great (and a little amusing) thing about Obama is that, as our first multiracial President, he will do few things the way the writers of mags like the Nation would like to see. As they try to outdo themselves writing about the "black" aspects of all this, the fact is Obama thinks on a larger plane: He's no Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton and is not the "agenda driven" type of leader that hads plagued this country for so many years. Thank God for that. MSNBC on here likened the guy to Reagan as a unifier. Libs will hate hearing that, but its true. Franklin Roosevelt comes to mind as well, and Kennedy, all great leaders and "wide angle" thinkers. I think leftys are going to be in for some rude shocks and cons may be pleasantly surprised.
Good Luck, Mr President.
Posted by CHIP THORNTON at 01/20/2009 @ 08:20am
No fee. It will be gratis if I can help.
Posted by lrjones4 at 01/20/2009 @ 02:45am
Nothing is free..
Posted by YourJomamma at 01/19/2009 @ 2:49pm
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/20/2009 @ 09:24am
The speech was flawless.
Posted by CHIP THORNTON at 01/20/2009 @ 1:02pm