American Muslims Mourn Mumbai Violence

There will be many expressions of appropriate mourning and condolence when the final toll is determined from the terrorist attacks on Mumbai. The terrorists who struck the Indian city killed mostly locals in a brutal multi-day killing spree that left more than 160 dead and close to 400 severely wounded. But the targeting of westerners and religious minorities -- including a rabbi and others associated with a synagogue and Jewish community center in a city where Jews have lived bh.

Because of the sectarian focus of the attacks, one of the responses that is especially worth noting is the one from the Muslim Public Affairs Council, the twenty-year-old civil rights group that advocates "for the the integration of Islam into American pluralism, and for a positive, constructive relationship between American Muslims and their representatives."

Here's MPAC's statement:

MPAC expresses its condolences to the Jewish community and the various other communities whose members were involved in the tragic series of terrorist attacks in recent days. MPAC has sent letters of condolences to the Indian embassy, and encourages people of all faiths and nationalities to stand together against those who seek to divide our communities.

Media reports indicate that more than 150 people have been killed in the attacks. Those responsible for these brutal and immoral attacks should be swiftly brought to justice. Islam considers the use of terrorism to be unacceptable for any purpose.

Comments (48)

1. I have many unkind words for this religion that appears to rather proudly harbors far too many knuckle-scrapping Neanderthals!----Posted by HAPPYLonghorn at 11/28/2008 @ 10:31pm

   You mean like the pro-lifers who gave only passing objection to Eric Rudolph, Paul Jennings Hill, John Salvi, James Kopp, etc.???

   Posted by Mask at 11/28/2008 @ 10:47pm

2. HAPPY must have missed his white sheet meeting again.

   This is a terrible time to be a Muslim outside of Asia. They will take the blame for sins that have nothing to do with their own actions simply by their faith (as our enlightened rightie above demonstrates) and therefore must work all that much harder to show their faith is both legitimate and sublime. I have known many Muslims, they mourned on 9/11 along with the rest of us, they are just as outraged at fundamentalist terrorism as we are, and they also live, laugh, and love, just as we do. To suggest there is one blanket Muslim ideology or way of thinking is not only intellectually lazy it is downright foolish.

   Posted by yutsano at 11/28/2008 @ 10:48pm

3. BTW, you'll notice a phenomenon I've commented on before from our right-winger friends like HAPPY...

   they'll easily paint all Muslims as untrustworthy, anti-American, terrorists or terrorist sympathizers...

   yet these are the same guys who say that they supported the "liberation of Iraqis" (97% Muslim) and that due to Bush a "thriving, pro-America, open democracy" will bloom in Iraq (again 97% Muslim).

   And don't see any contradiction in the two views.

   LVLIB actually tried to explain it away once....his idea?

   They'll all convert to Christianity!

   LOL

   Posted by Mask at 11/28/2008 @ 10:51pm

4. Actually there Hapster, you paint with a VERY broad brush. In fact, if anything, you're more hostile to the Muslims who are American citizens because they might just actually believe the Bill of Rights doesn't discriminate by faith or allow guilt by association. But hey, you need to protect your kids from those durn terrorists huh?

   Posted by yutsano at 11/28/2008 @ 11:13pm

5. You mean like the pro-lifers who gave only passing objection to Eric Rudolph, Paul Jennings Hill, John Salvi, James Kopp, etc.???

   Posted by Mask at 11/28/2008 @ 10:47pm

   I don't recall even a passing objection to those particular terrorists (or any other Christianist terrorists) coming from the anti-choice movement.

   Posted by jmusolino at 11/29/2008 @ 01:28am

6. At the heart of things, fundamentalism remains the problem. Not Islam, not Buddhism, not Hinduism, not Christianity, not Judaism, not Zoroastrianism, not Atheism, not Agnostocism, not etc. Just fundamentalism, and the need to convert, control or kill.

   Posted by jmusolino at 11/29/2008 @ 01:39am

7. It obviously does not matter that is it not all Muslims. Facts are that the Islamic world preaches hate towards non-Muslims and comparing it to Eric Rudolph is just a cop out. The Saudis said they are against terrorism also, do you believe them? When Muslims start protesting against the preachers of hate and the pro-sharia Muslims please let me know. Also terrorism is just part of the problem when it comes to Islam, as political Islam is even more dangerous to life as we know it than potential suicide bombers.

   Then being citizens means nothing. There are known AQ supporters in NJ that are US citizens. There have been pro-Hezbollah rallies in 4 states where thousands of American Muslims have attended. Dozens of Mosques here have been caught preaching hatred towards non-Muslims and guess what, the Muslims still attend these Mosques. It is the same problem across the world. It is downright foolish not to admit this. It is time to put a freeze on Muslim immigration. For more on the issue. http://islaminaction08.blogspot.com/

   Posted by Christopherl at 11/29/2008 @ 03:06am

8. MPAC is just another Islamist group. Some people should actually do some research before bowing down to any Muslim group that says that they are against terrorism.

   http://www.danielpipes.org/article/4603

   Posted by Christopherl at 11/29/2008 @ 03:15am

9. I think there is a lot of violence in ALL religious sects, not only Muslim!! They seem to be getting more than their fair share of the blame in all these terrorist acts. I regard myself as a Christian and don't think that Christians are holier than thou either, yet we lump all Muslims together as "terrorist's". Anyone nowadays who claims to be a Muslim is automatically a "terrorist", that notion is so stupid and unwarranted. I doubt Timothy McVeigh the Oklahoma bomber was a Muslim, but he was a home grown terrorist was he not? No religion in my opinion is perfect they all have flaws...is killing anyone for your belief right...of course not and people should be brought to justice for it. I don't hold with any violence toward other nations or religions, but I'm sure it will always be there until people can learn to live together and that I'm sure is a very, very tall order.

   Posted by Caj at 11/29/2008 @ 08:24am

10. Nobody believes that all Muslims are terrorists. That is not the problem. The problem is how many Muslims believe that Christians and Jews are infidels? How many Muslims support Hamas and Hezbollah and find excuses for their support of terrorist organizations? Even send money to support these organizations?

    Not all Muslims want to bring down "twin towers" but how many deep down felt the U.S. had it coming to them or brought it on themselves for their support of Israel? In Hitler's early rein, there were very few Nazis. But there were millions of Germans who just looked the other way. There may be very few true Muslim terrorists today, but millions, maybe billions, of Muslims who are just looking the other way.

    Posted by jean22 at 11/29/2008 @ 09:37am

11. HAPPYCOWARDRACISTIDIOTFOOL wants to write about the "lefts" kool-aid drinking?

    Too rich from a racist coward idiot that supports the killing of anybody that scares him. And that is a LOT of people.

    "but, I bet they think racial profiling targeting, yea, suspect Muslims, are just so pig-headed and irrational. Posted by HAPPYLonghorn at 11/28/2008 @ 10:31pm "

    Yes, HAPPY, they think the laws of the United States of America that prohibit you from convicting them based on religious affiliation are pig-headed and irrational.

    BOO!!

    Posted by crabwalk at 11/29/2008 @ 10:05am

12. September 25, 2005

    Brindabanghat village, Tripura state, India

    Sources: BBC, Rediff, The Telegraph, Newindpress.com

    A hysterical Sabita Debnath, a 14 year-old girl, slams her head repeatedly against the wall of her mud-built house and cries she does not live any more.

    Sabita has been made an orphan in a matter of minutes as Christian terrorists of the National Liberation Front of Tripura (NLFT) gunned down and wiped all other members of her Hindu family in a matter of minutes and her sob reverberates across this sleepy village of West Tripura district.

    In another dangerous development, two of the state most feared Christian terrorist organizations, the National Liberation Front of Tripura (NLFT) and the All Tripura Tiger Force (ATTF) have joined hands and have agreed to conduct \'joint operations\' against Hindu civilians and the Indian government.

    Till 2003, the two outfits were sworn enemies and often fought pitched battles to extend or preserve their hegemony in the hilly areas of the state. But a series of surrenders and desertions by a large number of lay cadre as well as top commanders have led to major depletion in the ranks of both groups.

    ----

    Posted by crabwalk at 11/29/2008 @ 10:12am

13. I actually believe it's because we are so closely tied to Israel and defend their every action no matter how horrific it may be toward Palestine, that these terrorist's exist!!! If you notice, any attacks on Irael by Palestine are condemned straight away by Bush...he can't get out there quick enough to say so!!! On the other hand do we hear any condemnation of Israel against Palestine, no of course not, that is not in our interest to do so. We are in lock step with Israel and what they want and that is what the rest of the world see also. America has a role to play in this perpetuating violence..."terrorism", because we have this strong alliance with Israel and for whatever reason cannot be broken!!! Until we can stop this business of Israel saying.."jump, and we say how high", this violence will continue.

    Posted by Caj at 11/29/2008 @ 10:15am

14. Did I say "all Muslims"?----Posted by HAPPYLonghorn at 11/28/2008 @ 11:02pm

    Yep, as a matter of fact, you did...

    how do you support RACIAL profiling of "just" "suspect Muslims"??!?!??

    Posted by Mask at 11/29/2008 @ 10:15am

15. There may be very few true Muslim terrorists today, but millions, maybe billions, of Muslims who are just looking the other way.

    Posted by jean22 at 11/29/2008 @ 09:37am | ignore this person | warn this person

    Looking the other way - Sabra and Shatila for instance.

    Posted by OneVote at 11/29/2008 @ 10:19am

16. Tripura

    The National Liberation Front of Tripura (NLFT) was founded in December 1989. Since its inception the NLFT has been engaged in an armed struggle to carve out a separate Christian nation - Tripura. The backing of the Baptist church right from the beginning has enabled this organization to spread its base. Due to its terrorist activities, the organization was banned by the government in 1997 but it continued its operations from across the Bangladesh border.

    The priests of the Baptist church supply arms and ammunitions to these terrorist rebels. Nagmanlal Halam, the secretary of the Noapara Baptist Church in Tripura was arrested by CRPF in April 2000 on charges of aiding insurgents and possessing a large quantity of explosives including 60 gelatin sticks, 5kg of potassium, 2kg of sulphur and other ingredients for making powerful bombs. Two junior members of the same church, who had been arrested earlier tipped the police off about the explosives which were meant for terrorist organizations like the NLFT. Mr. Halam confessed to buying and supplying explosives to the NLFT. Another church official, Jatna Koloi, who was also arrested, admitted that he received training in guerrilla warfare at an NLFT base.

    ...The Baptist Church in Tripura was set up by missionaries from New Zealand 60 years ago. It won only a few thousand converts until 1980 when a mass scale ethnic riot was engineered by the Church in which systematic ethnic cleansing of Hindu and Buddhist tribals was initiated. Thousands of women were raped and kidnapped and forced to convert to Christianity. The terrorists receive military aid from extremist Christian groups in Australia and New Zealand. They also have ongoing exchanges with Islamic terrorist and ISI who push in arms from the Bangladeshi border.

    Posted by crabwalk at 11/29/2008 @ 10:19am

17. Christian Identity

    Christian Identity is a loosely affiliated global group of churches and individuals devoted to a racialized theology that asserts North European whites are the direct descendants of the lost tribes of Israel, God's chosen people.[2][3] Christian Identity includes such Christian terrorist groups as The Covenant, The Sword, and the Arm of the Lord (CSA), Phineas Priesthood and the Oklahoma Constitutional Militia, also known as the Universal Church of God. Christian Identity is also related to other groups such as Aryan Nations, Aryan Republican Army (ARA) and the Patriots Council.

    Christian Identity has been associated with Peter Kevin McGregor Langan and Richard "Wild Bill" Guthrie, founders of the Aryan Republican Army (ARA), a paramilitary gang which has been connected to hate fueled terrorist attacks involving train derailments, assassinations, bombings and a string of professionally executed armed bank robberies planned to finance an overthrow of the US Federal government.[5][3] Similar social, cultural, and personal motivations have linked the ARA to a loose network of extreme radical right paramilitary cells including the White Supremacy movement and Christian Identity.[5] South African branches of Christian Identity have been accused of involvement in terrorist activity, including the 2002 Soweto bombings.[6]

    Posted by crabwalk at 11/29/2008 @ 10:27am

18. As I mentioned earlier, I believe All religious sects are capable of violence. I really feel that a good majority of these "church leaders " feel that because they use the word ..God..Christian..Allah..Buddah, or whatever religion, they can hide behind that cloak and commit all manner of crimes. So, I don't think any religion is free of committing awful crimes against their own or other people.

    Posted by Caj at 11/29/2008 @ 10:36am

19. Tsar Lazar Guard

    The Tsar Lazar Guard is the paramilitary wing of the Movement of Veterans of Serbia. Its president Željko Vasiljevi? called it the "first uniformed Christian militia squad, comprised of war veterans from all over Serbia".[74] The group was officially formed at a swearing in ceremony at the Lazarica Church in Kruševac on 5 May 2007. The group is said to have 5,000 troops.[75] The United Nations and NATO have classed Tsar Lazar's Guard as a terrorist group.[75] Tsar Lazar's Guard threatened to attack United Nations and NATO troops if Kosovo declared independence, and have stated their desire to detonate a nuclear bomb in Kosovo.

    Posted by crabwalk at 11/29/2008 @ 10:36am

20. Did I say "all xtians"? Do I advocate for sensible, practical means of penetrating, eavesdropping, shadowing of suspect ctians? You bet! The problem of the right is its Religions....too much Kool-aid drinking!

    Posted by HAPPYLonghorn at 11/28/2008 @ 11:02pm

    Posted by Malcontent at 11/29/2008 @ 11:20am

21. Dozens of churches here have been caught preaching hatred towards non-xtains and guess what, the xtains still attend these churches. It is the same problem across the world. It is downright foolish not to admit this. It is time to put a freeze on xtain immigration. For more on the issue. http://jezuslovesyoubuthateseverybodyelse.blogspot.com/

    Posted by Christopherl at 11/29/2008 @ 03:06am

    Posted by Malcontent at 11/29/2008 @ 11:22am

22. Posted by jean22 at 11/29/2008 @ 09:37am

    "Not all Muslims want to bring down "twin towers" but how many deep down felt the U.S. had it coming to them or brought it on themselves for their support of Israel?"

    Is this only a question for muslims?

    "In Hitler's early rein, there were very few Nazis. But there were millions of Germans who just looked the other way. There may be very few true Muslim terrorists today, but millions, maybe billions, of Muslims who are just looking the other way."

    Are you comparing islam to nazis?

    Or are you suggesting that one day we will all see muslims as they really are and become nazis?

    WTF are you trying to say here?

    (PS: If you don't worship a god, he won't ask you to do anything evil, in his/her name. Food for thought.)

    Posted by Malcontent at 11/29/2008 @ 11:29am

23. NYT, October 13, 2008

    Hindu Threat to Christians: Convert or Flee

    By SOMINI SENGUPTA

    BOREPANGA, India -- The family of Solomon Digal was summoned by neighbors to what serves as a public square in front of the village tea shop.

    They were ordered to get on their knees and bow before the portrait of a Hindu preacher. They were told to turn over their Bibles, hymnals and the two brightly colored calendar images of Christ that hung on their wall. Then, Mr. Digal, 45, a Christian since childhood, was forced to watch his Hindu neighbors set the items on fire. " ‘Embrace Hinduism, and your house will not be demolished,' " Mr. Digal recalled being told on that Wednesday afternoon in September. " ‘Otherwise, you will be killed, or you will be thrown out of the village.' "

    India, the world's most populous democracy and officially a secular nation, is today haunted by a stark assault on one of its fundamental freedoms. Here in eastern Orissa State, riven by six weeks of religious clashes, Christian families like the Digals say they are being forced to abandon their faith in exchange for their safety.

    The forced conversions come amid widening attacks on Christians here and in at least five other states across the country, as India prepares for national elections next spring.

    The clash of faiths has cut a wide swath of panic and destruction through these once quiet hamlets fed by paddy fields and jackfruit trees. Here in Kandhamal, the district that has seen the greatest violence, more than 30 people have been killed, 3,000 homes burned and over 130 churches destroyed, including the tin-roofed Baptist prayer hall where the Digals worshiped. Today it is a heap of rubble on an empty field, where cows blithely graze.

    Posted by feinfein at 11/29/2008 @ 1:24pm

24. Posted by HAPPYLonghorn at 11/28/2008 @ 10:31pm

    LOL

    Perfect example of WHY people want to blow other people up.

    Ignorance at it's finest.

    Posted by TexasFlood at 11/29/2008 @ 2:22pm

25. I have many unkind words for this religion that appears to rather proudly harbors far too many knuckle-scrapping Neanderthals!

    Posted by HAPPYLonghorn at 11/28/2008 @ 10:31pm

    You're talking about Christianity, right?

    Posted by TexasFlood at 11/29/2008 @ 2:28pm

26. And I mean, that's a little rough.

    Christians may be a little on the dumb side, but that's no reason to use such harsh words!

    Posted by TexasFlood at 11/29/2008 @ 3:10pm

27. The difference between opiates and religion?

    Opiates don't make you violent.

    But guess which one is illegal?

    Posted by crabwalk at 11/29/2008 @ 3:13pm

28. Posted by feinfein at 11/29/2008 @ 1:24pm

    why don't we create a place Christians can go to form their own state, free from violence upon them? We could put them in an ancestral homeland where they will be safe from extremism. My suggestion would be Bethlehem.

    Posted by crabwalk at 11/29/2008 @ 3:16pm

29. I keep hearing the mantra about how peaceful Muslims, Christians, Jews and Catholics are whenever this kind of stuff happens, but history shows us differently.

    When the Islamists spread out across the Middle East and Mediterranean world it was not peacefully- it was 'take our god or die for yours'.

    When the Catholic Church repressed non-Catholic Christians from it's founding by the Roman Empire until well into the reformation it was against fellow professed followers of the 'Prince of Peace'. They also supported and profited from the genocide against the native peoples of the Americas in the name of god.

    Few Christians of any stripe spoke out against Hitler and the Fascists that killed Jews, The Roma, Homosexuals and others.

    The aftermath of 9-11 was filled with deafening silence from Muslims condemning the attacks and some overseas even celebrated the murder of thousands of innocents.

    Look at the apartheid the Jews enforce against the Palestinian people and the reprisal against the Jews. Look at the Protestant-Catholic strife that tore Northern Ireland apart for years. Look at what has become of Beirut.

    The evils perpetrated in the name of 'peaceful' faiths is long- very long. Peaceful Religion is largely an oxymoron in my mind.

    Posted by NoPCZone at 11/29/2008 @ 3:28pm

30. HAPPY,

    see you at the rally!

    Posted by frosty zoom at 11/29/2008 @ 3:50pm

31. HAPP can use this to spot those terrorists...

    http://www.bettybowers.com/fbi.html

    Posted by Mask at 11/29/2008 @ 4:56pm

32. *HAPPY,

    see you at the rally!

    Posted by frosty zoom at 11/29/2008 @ 3:50pm*

    They have white sheeters in Canuckistan???

    Posted by yutsano at 11/29/2008 @ 11:56pm

33. HAPP can use this to spot those terrorists... http://www.bettybowers.com/fbi.html Posted by Mask at 11/29/2008 @ 4:56pm

    I saw Him!!!

    Where do I report this terrorist activity? I also want to report all those that "associate" with this known terrorist.

    Posted by crabwalk at 11/30/2008 @ 09:07am

34. Intl Military Forum:

    Survey Notes Contrasts On Iraq War, Role Of Faith By Haya El Nasser, USA Today

    The USA's estimated 2.4 million Muslims hold more moderate political views than Muslims elsewhere in the world and are mostly middle class and willing to adopt the American way of life, according to one of the most comprehensive surveys of this segment of the nation's population. The Pew Research Center study released Tuesday found that "Muslim Americans are very much like the rest of the country," says Luis Lugo, director of the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life. "They do not see a conflict between being a devout Muslim and living in a modern society." Muslim Americans, however, have a much more negative view about the Iraq war and the war against terrorism than the U.S. public as a whole, the survey found.

    The survey shows that 47% of Muslims consider themselves Muslim first and Americans second.

    Previous Pew surveys show that 42% of Christians identify with their religion before their country.

    Among white evangelicals, 62% say they identify themselves first as Christians.

    The U.S. Muslim population is one of the world's most diverse. The nearly two-thirds who are immigrants came from 68 countries. The poll found that African-Americans are the most disillusioned segment of the Muslim American population, a possible reflection of their economic conditions and experience with racial discrimination.

    The survey "clearly shows that the American Muslim community is well integrated in our society," says Ibrahim Hooper, communications director for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, a civil rights and advocacy group in Washington, D.C. "The overwhelming majority of American Muslims reject terrorism and religious extremism."

    ------

    Posted by crabwalk at 11/30/2008 @ 09:16am

35. But, HAPPY knows that with the election of Barak Obama (Marxist Arab domestic terrorist America Hater) African Americans will lose their "excuse" to be disillusioned by the 200 years of racism and bigotry as witnessed in the form of HAPPY

    Posted by crabwalk at 11/30/2008 @ 09:32am

36. Muslims are no nastier or more kind or more brutish or more sociable than Hindus are more fairminded or underhanded or even-tempered than Christians are moral or selfless or destructive than Scientologists are openminded or callous or vindictive or peaceloving.

    Earth is one messy, vapid, resplendent place.

    Earthlings of the homo sapien ilk do share one thing - development. Narcissistic to Egocentric to Ethnocentric, and a few make it to Worldcentric and higher. "Neocons", the run of the mill Happ's and fundamentalist narrow-Yahweh-religion higher minded fools like LV and lower rung chumps like these vacuous Mumbai thrillseekers all fall south of Worldcentric. Wouldn't recognize it if it made love to them.

    Posted by winyahn at 11/30/2008 @ 11:08am

37. Hugo Chavez is a self-obsessed fool, just like Bush. @%^@%^ oil bursting from every pore of Venezuela and the poor eat trash.

    Were it not for the collapse of the economy we could easily be transitioning to four more miserable years. We nearly, actually, really and truly elected Sara Palin as Vice President of the United States.

    The destruction of the Great Apes habitat is accelerating.

    Neocons are corporate bitches. When they do engage their imagination, they come up with mortgage backed derivatives and credit default swaps. Their imagination is tethered to their reptilian morals.

    Posted by winyahn at 11/30/2008 @ 11:21am

38. Did anyone notice what happened yesterday in Nigeria...between Christians and Muslims...

    http://www.elpais.com/articulo/internacional/choques/religiosos/

    ...can't find this in English but I am sure it must be around somewhere on the web...they are all as mad as each other.

    Posted by marilynm at 11/30/2008 @ 5:23pm

39. This might be considered a hate crime in the end.

    Posted by bleedingheart at 11/30/2008 @ 11:01pm

40. they are all as mad as each other

    Posted by marilynm at 11/30/2008 @ 5:23pm

    Nice turn of phrase. Pretty accurate for O'Reilly LV Hannity Savage Boortz Cheney Happthing Palin and Chris Matthews!

    Posted by winyahn at 11/30/2008 @ 11:24pm

41. Nice stooging for Islamists, Nation. Predicted reaction from Navasky @ Co: A neat, put to rest disclaimer from MPAC, The folks who have said: "[t]here are three specific lobbies that are turning the ongoing war on terrorism against Islam. The Christian Evangelicals who want to see Muslims converted, the political Zionists who want to see Muslim [sic] politically obliterated, and the Hindu Extremists who want to see Muslim [sic] humiliated…"

    Perfect synchronicity from the Islam-enamored left who are acting out their roles as useful idiots.

    If we can't have Uncle Joe back, the Caliphate will do very nicely.

    It's all about the strong horse, isn't it NationKids?

    Posted by kronstadt1 at 12/01/2008 @ 08:06am

42. Posted by kronstadt1 at 12/01/2008 @ 08:06am

    DO you have a strong horse running in the Army of God race at Belmont?

    Perhaps you could point us to a message of condemnataion of christian terrorism attacks from James Dobson, Jerry Falwell, Rev Haggard?

    Posted by crabwalk at 12/01/2008 @ 09:10am

43. Crabwalk - And as the bodies pile up (including the mushrikun leftists and idolaters like you), you'll still be looking for the mass murderers on the right. Stop fighting the battles of the 1950's. There's a new fascism in town and you're blind to it. How sad you guys are. Remember, the islamists hate you as much as they do the Jews and infidels.

    Victor Navasky and Eric Alterman can't save you.

    Posted by kronstadt1 at 12/01/2008 @ 10:19am

44. I saw Him!!!

    Posted by crabwalk at 11/30/2008 @ 09:07am

    If you saw him on something small, like a piece of burnt toast or in a tie-dye t-shirt you can make a mint selling it on e-bay.

    Posted by Darin_the_Big_Fat_Troll at 12/01/2008 @ 10:45am

45. Posted by kronstadt1 at 12/01/2008 @ 10:19am

    Kron, good to have you aboard.

    Perhaps you have missed the violence perpetrated by American Right Wing Christian groups in the last decade. It is not the anti-communist/union fights your side continues to fight, it is today. Please re-read my postings, you will find they are fairly up-to-date. The Tsar Lazar Guard is still operating, looking for someone to buy a nuke from, as afar as I know. Not sure what they were up to in the 1950's.

    I can handle the hatred from the Islamists without striking out at innocents. I am willing to die as a result of my beliefs, like a belief in habeaus corpus. Can you say the same? Or are one of those terrified sheep that hide behind the torture and kidnapping of people that have nothing to do with terrorism, such as the over 250 that were held in Cuba for years, then released.

    Also, what the hell is a Mushrikun and which idols do I worship?

    Posted by crabwalk at 12/01/2008 @ 12:07pm

46. Posted by Darin_the_Big_Fat_Troll at 12/01/2008 @ 10:45am

    nahh, nothing that fancy. HE was sitting on a donkey eyeballing a bridge. It looked like he was making drawings, and muttering something about "..treat the least among you". He looked pretty unhappy.

    Posted by crabwalk at 12/01/2008 @ 12:09pm

47. "Perfect synchronicity from the Islam-enamored left who are acting out their roles as useful idiots"

    Really?

    Which one of us is in favor of meeting AQ's goals of bogging the US down in a war in the ME?

    Has worldwide Islamic terrorism gone up or down while you support the current GWOT?

    Posted by crabwalk at 12/01/2008 @ 12:12pm

48. I will truely believe that the Muslims do not sympathise with the terrorist when all their relious leaders issue a "FATWA" against all terrorists.

    Posted by nd001 at 12/01/2008 @ 10:01pm