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RedditBased on exit poll results from the western states of California, Oregon, Washington and his native Hawaii, Barack Obama was at 11 p.m. on the first Tuesday in November of the 232nd year of the American experiment declared to have been elected the 44th president of the United States.
"That's the true genius of America -- that America can change," declared the first African American ever to be selected to serve as commander-in-chief of nation that just a half century ago still denied the franchise to millions of people of color.
With results still incomplete, the senator from Illinois had already won the states that went to fellow Democrat John Kerry in 2004 along with more than a half dozen states won that year by George Bush: Florida, Virginia, Ohio, Iowa, Colorado, Nevada and New Mexico. And the senator could still win several additional Bush states for an Electoral College victory of landslide proportions.
At the announcement of Obama's election, a roar of approval arose from a crowd of tens of thousands of people -- who reflected that American mosaic -- that had gathered at Chicago's Grant Park to celebrate one of the most dramatic moments in American political history.
Inside Atlanta's Ebenezer Baptist Church, the congregation of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr., cheers arose for the young senator who was nominated on the 45th anniversary of the civil rights leader's "I Have a Dream" speech.
Georgia Congressman John Lewis, who marched with King, admitted that that as a young activist, "I never had any idea that I would live to see an African-American elected president of the United States."
"There has been a transformation of American politics tonight," said Lewis.
Shortly afterward the western states announced for Obama, McCain offered a gracious concession, calling Obama's win "historic" and speaking of the evidence it provided of America's progress from the "bigotries of the past."
Calling Obama "a good man," McCain pledged to aid an Obama presidency and to urged his supporters to "offer our next president our good will."
Obama won with strong support from African Americans (96 percent), Jews (77 percent), gays and lesbians (71 percent), first-time voters (68 percent), Latinos (67 percent), Asians (63 percent), voters under 30 (66 percent), union members (59 percent) and women (55 percent).
While the win had its demographic side, there was, as well, a partisan and ideological component.
Obama won the support of 89 percent of self-described liberals, 60 percent of moderates and 19 percent of conservatives.
Among Americans who said "government should do more to solve problems" 76 percent voted for Obama. Among those who expressed the deepest worries about the economy, the Democrat was an overwhelming 62-36 favorite.
And Obama, who won the Democratic nomination in no small measure because of he had spoken out against attacking Iraq, won the support of 87 percent of those voters who objected to the war.
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Now comes most of our right-wing posters...
wishing (they'll say "predicting") America to fail.
Posted by Maskdelta at 11/04/2008 @ 11:05pm
Huge step for America.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 11/04/2008 @ 11:05pm
Happy, I think you owe the Nation some money.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 11/04/2008 @ 11:06pm
Congrats bro!
Posted by bleedingheart at 11/04/2008 @ 11:11pm
Saints and angels and Allah be praised.
Posted by yutsano at 11/04/2008 @ 11:13pm
Awwww
Poor republicans : (
Posted by TexasFlood at 11/04/2008 @ 11:15pm
Ah, where to begin...
FrankGrits, I want to thank you for your unprecedented reliability in always being wrong at every step of the election process. I could set a watch by you if I held it up to the mirror.
Oh,
Hilary
will
never
be President
SJChermak, first
9/11! 9/11! 9/11!
So while you're stepping into a dry pair of britches, I'd like to remind the audience of your complacent prediction that, at the time of Palin's designation as VP-nominee, that McCain had it locked.
Happy, just for you, from the overture to Pippin
" Magic to do We got Magic to do Just for you, We got Magic to do, Magic to do Magic to do Just for you we got Magic to play Just for you, We got Magic to do We got Magic to do Just for you "
Posted by brunowe at 11/04/2008 @ 11:16pm
FrankGrits, I want to thank you for your unprecedented reliability in always being wrong at every step of the election process. I could set a watch by you if I held it up to the mirror.
Posted by brunowe at 11/04/2008 @ 11:16pm
Hahahahahahahaha. That made me laugh so hard.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 11/04/2008 @ 11:17pm
sorry for repost, but hey:
shout out to john mccain!
i think he's got a future in comedy. he's a crappy neocon.
gore vs. mccain would have been good for america in 2000.
oh, well.
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/04/2008 @ 11:18pm
mccain says goodbye......
holy cow!
they boo obama when mccain concedes.
how tacky.
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/04/2008 @ 11:19pm
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/04/2008 @ 11:19pm
He was classy enough to stop it at least.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 11/04/2008 @ 11:20pm
classy, mr. mccain.
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/04/2008 @ 11:23pm
He was classy enough to stop it at least.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 11/04/2008 @ 11:20pm
i truly think he's embarrassed by the lunacy.
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/04/2008 @ 11:26pm
Sweet. And I am HAPPY! (or however that is supposed to be typed) that I was right that we would not even need to worry about our votes in Oregon, that The Answer would be obvious by 8 PM PST. Short nights make for easier next days.
Party on tonight. The real work begins tomorrow.
Posted by onthehelm at 11/04/2008 @ 11:26pm
god bless the world, mr. mccain.
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/04/2008 @ 11:28pm
here comes the leader of the socialist states of america.
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/04/2008 @ 11:30pm
Projected...Guardian site has him with 324 elec coll votes. How many California votes are counted and safe?
Anyway, a win...what is going on in hills of East; is it the old South? West Virginia, Kentucky, Tennessee: all solid McCain. All glories to North Carolina and Virginia; now, one day US flags might re-appear on back-packs (esp with a smiling black face on 'em). The Right should chill and cede to the Union...it'll be OK.
Posted by bazdicoot at 11/04/2008 @ 11:31pm
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/04/2008 @ 11:26pm
I concur.
McCain appeared more sincere tonight than he has since 2000, IMHO.
Alas, we still have to deal with Sen McConnell in KY...
Posted by louky at 11/04/2008 @ 11:31pm
and the world kinda sighs........
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/04/2008 @ 11:33pm
Hopefully America will once again be the last best hope for the world.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 11/04/2008 @ 11:33pm
So...
How many republicans here are going to trust and believe in Mr. Obama because he's our CIC?
REDRIVER? LVLIBERTY?
Posted by TexasFlood at 11/04/2008 @ 11:34pm
bush congratulates obama!
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/04/2008 @ 11:35pm
hey mask,
what was the youth vote?
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/04/2008 @ 11:35pm
FRANKGRITS ...it's true....WAS a perfect "reverse baromenter"!
LOL
Posted by Maskdelta at 11/04/2008 @ 11:36pm
egad!
a commercial for coal!
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/04/2008 @ 11:37pm
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/04/2008 @ 11:35pm
Only up 1%....but I'll apologize as soon as I see the demographics data in weeks to come.
Posted by Maskdelta at 11/04/2008 @ 11:40pm
Things to look forward to....
Postings that blame Obama for anything bad that happens for the next 4 years, while anything good will be attributed to Dubya's policies just kicking in.
Some of Obama's tax polocies as well as some other programs will be put on hold until the economy improves. He can't afford to tax the system while it's in such bad shape.
The end of the occupation of Iraq. It will be easier for Obama to accomplish this now that the economy is the greatest concern of Americans.
Palin laying all of the blame on McCain and his people for her poor apperances and anything else that affects her image.
Joe the Plumber will become Joe the annoying bastard nobody can stand anymore as he tries to cash in on his 15 min. of fame.
Posted by koroviev at 11/04/2008 @ 11:41pm
what was the youth vote? Posted by frosty zoom at 11/04/2008 @ 11:35p
It's those pesky black people and their affirmative action president.... It's hard to keep a straight face on that one.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 11/04/2008 @ 11:43pm
nevada!
let it snow!
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/04/2008 @ 11:44pm
the neo-cons keep their perfect record of prognostication.
HAPPY, "what recession?"
FRANK- "McCain will crush Obama. Hillary is the ONLY chance!"
LIVER- "America will never accept a lefty"
RIO- grrr, demoncrat..... satans favorite daughter"
Ponti- "MCain wins!!!"
Posted by crabwalk at 11/04/2008 @ 11:47pm
oh, how they rattle on......
when's he gonna speak?
ah, thank god.
commercials.
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/04/2008 @ 11:48pm
I called my mom. She is 82 and white. I am 50 and white. Tears of joy. 30 years of heartbreak redeemed.
Posted by tharris08 at 11/04/2008 @ 11:48pm
It was the lesbians that pushed it over!
Give it up for DARLADOON!!
you go girl!
Posted by crabwalk at 11/04/2008 @ 11:50pm
Dawn is breaking after a long dark night. The journey has a new direction. Now the work begins. Can we find a way to work with the other side? Can we be as gracious in victory as at lest Senator McCain was in defeat? Can we be better than the Republicans were when they were here? We shall see. Our future depends on it.
Posted by bascaville at 11/04/2008 @ 11:51pm
where's john maasch?
i wish him well.
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/04/2008 @ 11:52pm
ouch!
they're partying outside the white house.
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/04/2008 @ 11:52pm
Posted by crabwalk at 11/04/2008 @ 11:47pm
Don't forget SJCHERMAK....
another "McCain will pull it out" predictor.
Posted by Maskdelta at 11/04/2008 @ 11:56pm
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/04/2008 @ 11:52pm
Ain't it grand!!
Do you think Dick is in his undisclosed location?
Chimpy leaves with the lowest performance rating EVER!
Good riddance!
75 can't go fast enough.
Posted by crabwalk at 11/04/2008 @ 11:56pm
n't forget SJCHERMAK.... another "McCain will pull it out" predictor. Posted by Maskdelta at 11/04/2008 @ 11:56pm |
Good Morning SJCHERMAK!!!
Posted by crabwalk at 11/04/2008 @ 11:57pm
what?
no "eye of the tiger?"
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/04/2008 @ 11:58pm
sh.
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/04/2008 @ 11:58pm
bizarre dress.
Throwing off Barak in HD.
Posted by crabwalk at 11/04/2008 @ 11:59pm
not you happy,
the folks on t.v.
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/05/2008 @ 12:00am
but I am most sincere in hoping that blacks, browns and all non-whites will have no more excuses.... Posted by HAPPYLonghorn at 11/04/2008 @ 11:58pm
Nice that you live up to your bet, but what a piece of sht to write such drivel.
Posted by crabwalk at 11/05/2008 @ 12:02am
Now, on Obama, he's proven to me he is the Real Deal...i.e., the real Magic! I regret his personal beliefs, past associations, policy prescriptions and a whole host of typical Repub/Demo divides, but I am most sincere in hoping that blacks, browns and all non-whites will have no more excuses....America is the land of opportunity, BAR NONE!! Posted by HAPPYLonghorn at 11/04/2008 @ 11:58pm
Very nice Happy. I wish you well. Hopefully you can get things back to semi-normality in your state after that regretful disaster.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 11/05/2008 @ 12:03am
new puppy!
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/05/2008 @ 12:04am
it belongs to me!
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/05/2008 @ 12:05am
kinda......
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/05/2008 @ 12:06am
wow....
367.....
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/05/2008 @ 12:07am
WOO HOO!
kicked out the local repubs!!
New township board!!
Posted by crabwalk at 11/05/2008 @ 12:09am
HUZZAH!!!
Posted by ibbleblibble at 11/05/2008 @ 12:10am
i am reborn!!!
Posted by ibbleblibble at 11/05/2008 @ 12:12am
Posted by HAPPYLonghorn at 11/04/2008 @ 11:58pm
Tonight worth more than any donation you could EVER make, HAPP.
Hell...keep your money.
Posted by Maskdelta at 11/05/2008 @ 12:12am
IBBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you're alive!!!!!!
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/05/2008 @ 12:12am
Hell...keep your money.
Posted by Maskdelta at 11/05/2008 @ 12:12am
i think he should donate it to the treasury....
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/05/2008 @ 12:13am
Posted by ibbleblibble at 11/05/2008 @ 12:12am
IT....IS.....ALIVE!!!!!!!
heheh
Posted by Maskdelta at 11/05/2008 @ 12:14am
ooh,
he said "new deal".......
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/05/2008 @ 12:14am
Congratulations to you all. Very historic night.
Obama is OUR President now. I'm in.
Sincerely.
Posted by freiheit1 at 11/05/2008 @ 12:15am
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/05/2008 @ 12:13am |
HAPP (like his mentor Limbaugh) will bitch about the "high taxes he'll have to pay under Obama"...and then HAPP will not, but worry to death about the fact Rush will!
LOL
Posted by Maskdelta at 11/05/2008 @ 12:15am
hey mask,
see if you can log in as "mask".
i'll check and see if my "frankgrits" nick still works.
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/05/2008 @ 12:16am
reBorn from the placenta of the Obama admin.... Ibble rises
Rejoice with us brother ibble, Beast from the Left!!
Posted by crabwalk at 11/05/2008 @ 12:17am
Obama is OUR President now. I'm in. Sincerely. Posted by freiheit1 at 11/05/2008 @ 12:15am
Salute.
tip o the glass to ye'.
Posted by crabwalk at 11/05/2008 @ 12:19am
well, god bless you, mr. obama.
(such cheesy music...)
put on some styx, for chrissake. it is chicago, after all.
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/05/2008 @ 12:19am
You too Crab. Thanks.
Posted by freiheit1 at 11/05/2008 @ 12:20am
THE GLASS IS HALF FULL!!!
THE GLASS IS HALF FULL!!!
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/05/2008 @ 12:21am
WOW!
giddy as school girl.
But alas, my republican dept head scheduled a budget meeting first thing. I think he knew he would be in bed early.
good night, and good luck.
have fun tonight all.
"He will also have to House break the new democratic majority"- great line from Brokaw!!!!!
Posted by crabwalk at 11/05/2008 @ 12:22am
I'm drunk.
It's party time.
For tomorrow,
we all work
for a real world.
That's
for
all
of
u s.
Aye!
Posted by hsuBfools at 11/05/2008 @ 12:23am
Posted by Maskdelta at 11/05/2008 @ 12:15am
wow.
this must be important -- MASK is working overtime.
heheh.
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/05/2008 @ 12:25am
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/05/2008 @ 12:16am
ROFLMAO!
Posted by Maskdelta at 11/05/2008 @ 12:25am
hee hee...i called in sick 4 2morrow...
unfortunatel its legit, but...
SO EFFIN WHAT????
HUZZAH HUZZAH HUZZAH!!!!!
Posted by ibbleblibble at 11/05/2008 @ 12:25am
have fun tonight all.
Posted by crabwalk at 11/05/2008 @ 12:22am
i think we're in for a BAMABOOM in about nine months...
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/05/2008 @ 12:26am
43 White Fathers
One Barak.
Posted by crabwalk at 11/05/2008 @ 12:26am
Well, can you see this?
or is my old nic still invisible?
Posted by Mask at 11/05/2008 @ 12:26am
<i>Posted by freiheit1 at 11/05/2008 @ 12:15am </i>
Hear hear. This is, beyond any doubt, an historic night. I can't say I agree with everything Obama will likely do, but may God be with him. Congratulations, Mr. President.
Posted by Thrawn at 11/05/2008 @ 12:28am
well,
calling in sick tomorrow is better than
the being sick of tomorrow we've lived through for quite a while now.
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/05/2008 @ 12:28am
Posted by HAPPYLonghorn at 11/05/2008 @ 12:27am
HAPP, what is "gracious" about your posts tonight?
Again, what is the next word after "Magic _____"?
Posted by Mask at 11/05/2008 @ 12:28am
Posted by Mask at 11/05/2008 @ 12:26am
EGAD!
I'VE UNLEASHED EL ENMASCARADO!
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/05/2008 @ 12:29am
I can't say I agree with everything Obama will likely do,
Posted by Thrawn at 11/05/2008 @ 12:28am
i doubt mr. obama will, either.
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/05/2008 @ 12:30am
happy, relax.
you'll still make money.
enjoy.
have a beer.
soon you'll be debushified.
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/05/2008 @ 12:32am
Obama election freed up the Nation censors?
Wow is he powerful!
... can't......leave...... blog.....
Posted by crabwalk at 11/05/2008 @ 12:32am
not left / right
up, higher - to a more perfect union
Posted by winyahn at 11/05/2008 @ 12:33am
Posted by freiheit1 at 11/05/2008 @ 12:15am | ignore this person | warn this person
welcome brother freedom.
-----------------------------------------
yes indeedy fellow center lefties...i am reborn, the glorious afterbirth of a glorious and historic event.
for months i wandered "the nation" a demonic ghost of myself, spewing nastiness and reveling in my wickedness...
now i return as ibble, who was always such a nice, respectful...uh...
well, whatevs...i'm back as ibble...
feels good...
but seriously to all those with whom i have sparred...
give the man a chance and many blessings to you and yours. its time to heal.
namaste...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 11/05/2008 @ 12:33am
frank?
oh, frank?
c'mon, dude. speak up.
frank?
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/05/2008 @ 12:34am
Posted by Mask at 11/05/2008 @ 12:26am | ignore this person | warn this person
YER BACK TOO!!!
wow...night of miracles! was it all just a bad dream? aunty em...toto!
back in kansas...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 11/05/2008 @ 12:35am
no more evil winged monkies?
where is LIBSUX? moving phantom legions and nonexistant secret miracle weapons in the bunker?
regardless...like i said, time to heal...
COME HERE LIBSUX, YA LOVABLE OL POTTY MOUTHED NEOFASCIST! GIMME A BIG HUG!
its all about the luv...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 11/05/2008 @ 12:41am
Think LVL is packing his bags?
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 11/05/2008 @ 12:41am
Higher deficits
Posted by HAPPYLonghorn at 11/05/2008
no, happy.
it's the republicans who run up the deficits.
fiscally, they suck.
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/05/2008 @ 12:47am
Think LVL is packing his bags?
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 11/05/2008 @ 12:41am | ignore this person | warn this person
nah...nowhere to go...
see! so much about which to be grateful!
for most of us there are any number of social democratic mixed economy countries in the world to which we could flee, from little ol costa rica (the "switzerland of central america) to sweden (the apex of civilization)...
but where does ol' LL go?
NOWHERE! HE'LL BE JUST FINE RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW. all he has to do is kick and scream and pout and hold his breath all the way to a better future and a better world...
the dystopic future is still here, but tommorrow's yesterday will not last forever and the country, the world, breathes a sigh of sweet relief...
take a deep breath of fresh air. you deserve it.
Posted by ibbleblibble at 11/05/2008 @ 12:48am
happy, don't be so bitter.
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/05/2008 @ 12:49am
Higher deficits Posted by HAPPYLonghorn at 11/05/2008
YOu mean like the record high deficit Bush has given us? OR the massive deficit Reagan gave us? Or how about the massive deficit of George Bush senior? Or do you mean that record surplus left by Clinton?
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 11/05/2008 @ 12:50am
Posted by HAPPYLonghorn at 11/05/2008 @ 12:44am | ignore this person | warn this person
invest in green energy companies...
even in the worst of disasters some make a killin...
look at the funeral industry in iraq...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 11/05/2008 @ 12:52am
I just spoke to my eldest daughter and she was still crying after hearing Obama's pres elect speech. Yes, it was a joyous cry.
My other daughter was woken up when her entire dorm started yelling approvingly about the announcement, (she has to wake up at 5 AM for ROTC drills). She called her mom when she realized her very 1st vote really worked. Her mom called me about it really excited as they're both in another state a thousand + miles away.
YES, drunk, partying, and the rest of my family and friends are joyous.
Life is once again very very good.
Posted by hsuBfools at 11/05/2008 @ 12:56am
i am reborn!!!
Posted by ibbleblibble at 11/05/2008 @ 12:12am
Told ya you would get your nick back.
Just have to serve the predetermined penalty phase for slighting the unseen.
Posted by Benchrest at 11/05/2008 @ 12:59am
Is it possible for the USA to go into incompetence withdrawals now that George W. is gone? Maybe he should be kept around to sort of taper off to avoid metabolic shock.
Posted by koroviev at 11/05/2008 @ 01:00am
damn!
bachmann leads 47 - 43
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/05/2008 @ 01:03am
happy,
you're like the folks who booed when mccain mentioned obama.
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/05/2008 @ 01:03am
Just have to serve the predetermined penalty phase for slighting the unseen.
Posted by Benchrest at 11/05/2008 @ 12:59am | ignore this person | warn this person
indeed you did!
bardo was a trip. guess i can trust your judgement now, eh?
;)
Posted by ibbleblibble at 11/05/2008 @ 01:06am
there ya' go happy..
you can invest in "clean coal".
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/05/2008 @ 01:08am
Posted by koroviev at 11/05/2008 @ 01:00am
Hey, I went from 277 cholesterol to 150 in two weeks with only diet and exercise. And from 600 triglycerides to 250!
Anything is truly possible.
Hiccup...!
So much for my diet...
HAHAahahahaha
Posted by hsuBfools at 11/05/2008 @ 01:09am
Welcome back from virtual exile MASK.
HAPPY, this is what I had in mind several months ago when you asked me what I meant by "Obama will crush McCain." Although, I was off my popular vote prediction of 53-47.
Great night. Apart from everything else, it is very comforting to know that Obama likely will have two or maybe three justices to the S. Ct. to nominate.
The McCain of 2000 would have made this a closer election - maybe he would have even pulled it out. This election has to make the GOP rethink their national political strategy. Too much pandering to the base. The time machine of tired old scare tactics and stereotypes did not work. The Rove way as it exists now is finished. The selection of Palin ended up being the nail in the coffin. Bet he wishes now that he picked Lieberman. Just my two cents.
Now let's hope the Democrats and Obama don't blow the opportunity.
Posted by Hman23 at 11/05/2008 @ 01:11am
or is my old nic still invisible?
Posted by Mask at 11/05/2008 @ 12:26am
How sweet it is.
All that once was is now again.
Posted by Benchrest at 11/05/2008 @ 01:13am
Nice to have everyone back again. I rarely post, but it's good to have Mask and ibble back.
Congratulations, President Elect Obama.
Fox News commentators posit that Sen Clinton will be Obama's biggest opposition. Thoughts?
Posted by louky at 11/05/2008 @ 01:17am
We really have to give a round of aplomb to HAPPY for even showing up here.
Amazing! It becomes apparent that even the worst of us wants some feedback from the best of us.
If I was Christian (yucka do). I would welcome the likes of the unhappy "Happy" into the fold. But since I'm not a Christian (thank God! LOL). I hope he rots in the fecation of his own juices.
There are times when we just cannot afford the temptation to be charitable.
Yuck Foo Happy! Fade into the scum filled moldy mite ridden corner that birthed you!
Posted by chaoszen at 11/05/2008 @ 01:43am
Soooo.... I guess it's off to socialist terrorist training camp. Right before I get gay married to an Arab. I wanna beat the rush and all. You ready Livlib?
Good job, America!
Posted by maddening_crowd at 11/05/2008 @ 01:47am
I hope that wasn't to harsh. I been drinkin Glenlivet... Uh 12 year old.
I truly hope that partaking of 12 year old Scotch is not considered whiskey molestation.
Posted by chaoszen at 11/05/2008 @ 01:49am
But do the new con repub dic'tatorship whorshipers get it?
Posted by hsuBfools at 11/05/2008 @ 01:58am
Posted by maddening_crowd at 11/05/2008 @ 01:47am
I was checking the socialist manual for terrorists and it does not indicate any ban on the right to marry a gay Arab..
Feel free to pursue any gay Arabs that may come your way, as long as it makes you happy.
Posted by chaoszen at 11/05/2008 @ 01:59am
Really.
Posted by hsuBfools at 11/05/2008 @ 01:59am
It is done.
What a relief!...
Thank you... America!
Posted by ttr at 11/05/2008 @ 02:01am
er, meant the "Really" for not about gay arab dating but about whether new con repubs get what just happened...
Posted by hsuBfools at 11/05/2008 @ 02:02am
I'm having a dream.
They're having a nightmare...
Posted by hsuBfools at 11/05/2008 @ 02:09am
Posted by hsuBfools at 11/05/2008 @ 02:02am
They are unable to absorb the ramifications. The repugs are not only like a deer caught in the headlights.
They are like a deer caught under the bumper, past the drivetrain and spit out the rear tires.
It will take them awhile to raise themselves from the dead and necro themselves into another form of the living dead..
Posted by chaoszen at 11/05/2008 @ 02:13am
I am ready, heathy and strong. (OK, and a little drunk...)
They're mentally confused, sickly and weakened.
Yet because I am a dem, caring, resourceful and true-- I will drag them along.
(OK, a lot drunk...)
Posted by hsuBfools at 11/05/2008 @ 02:23am
er, ha, healthy
Posted by hsuBfools at 11/05/2008 @ 02:24am
Posted by hsuBfools at 11/05/2008 @ 02:23am
Me too..
Posted by chaoszen at 11/05/2008 @ 02:24am
This is a day to celebrate. Don't watch cable news as they will suck all the magic out of the moment.
Be drunk and resilient, then sober up and get to work. The pugs left their lethal noxious toys all over the house.
Lots of work ahead.
Posted by chaoszen at 11/05/2008 @ 02:30am
McCain ran one of the worst Republican campaigns in history. His constantly changing message, his picking Sarah Palin, his negative ads all combined to sink his ship.
That said...Obama consistently lead McCain in the polls BEFORE the economy tanked. Barack Obama, a relative unknown BLACK man, beat Hillary Clinton and John McCain - two entrenched, seasoned campaigners with proven political machines behind them. It wasn't a fluke and it wasn't an accident.
Posted by Balrog at 11/05/2008 @ 02:31am
Posted by Balrog at 11/05/2008 @ 02:31am
Wonders never cease eh? There are no accidents.
Posted by chaoszen at 11/05/2008 @ 02:36am
The world celebrates our sanity. We have scored points in the mind of the world.
Let us not squander this gift..
Posted by chaoszen at 11/05/2008 @ 02:39am
despite a wave of anti-americanism sweeping across the country, Pro-american, Michell Bachmann was able to win. (sarcasm)
I did not see her victory speech. But, I am sure that it featured glazed over eyes, creepy smile and several references to her favorite diety.
On the plus side....Franken made up some ground and is now in a dead heat.
Posted by koroviev at 11/05/2008 @ 02:40am
Hopefully America will once again be the last best hope for the world.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 11/04/2008 @ 11:33pm
Last best hope for the world?! Why can't the "world" step up and be their own best hope?
This "we can save the world" stuff is truly edging on arrogance.
Posted by ACook at 11/05/2008 @ 02:48am
This "we can save the world" stuff is truly edging on arrogance.
Posted by ACook at 11/05/2008 @ 02:48am
Funny, I thought it was the Republicans that were saving the world by eliminating dictators and encouraging democracy. I guess they were really ruining the world.
Posted by Balrog at 11/05/2008 @ 02:51am
Posted by chaoszen at 11/05/2008 @ 02:30am
Yeah, need ones beauty sleep too.
And to all a good night's sleep.
Posted by hsuBfools at 11/05/2008 @ 02:52am
Last best hope for the world?! Why can't the "world" step up and be their own best hope?
This "we can save the world" stuff is truly edging on arrogance.
Posted by ACook at 11/05/2008 @ 02:48am
Wow!
That's just bout exactly what I'VE been saying for the past 8 years.
Go figure?
Posted by TexasFlood at 11/05/2008 @ 03:11am
An Australian current affairs program is just going to air, after an out of date promo ad: "will Obama or McCain...?", it is still prime time here. Every US citizen and "anti-American" activist in the same room are still having a wild old time, mostly in the cities. The goodwill is flowing; may it keep flowing.
Posted by bazdicoot at 11/05/2008 @ 05:20am
The republicans may lose the house and senate, but they won't lose the WH. Posted by ACook at 11/04/2008 @ 9:31pm
Another prognostication based on prophecy.
Posted by crabwalk at 11/05/2008 @ 07:16am
Okay, I'm awake...
it's STILL true, isn't it???
Posted by Mask at 11/05/2008 @ 07:17am
Cccomfo1,
You said "Hopefully America will once again be the last best hope for the world."
It never was not that. It never stopped being that, it did not take an 8-year hiatus.
There is a disturbing trend here. It is obvious that the political left does not accept the will of the voter unless the voters choice comes out the way the left wants it.
Of course, since the beginnings of this country, there has been partisan bickering and arguing, as there should be in a free society.
But, when elections were held, whatever the outcome, the losing side would resign themselves to the fact that the will of the voter decided otherwise, and to try again another day.
The President, regardless of which party he was, earned at least some "due" or grudging respect from those of the opposite party. This is not to say that there never was criticism, or that there should not be criticism, but there was still some respect.
That changed in 2000. President Bush has been vilified and condemned like no politician I have seen in my lifetime.
The left never accepted the 2000 results, even though this whole contortion about the vote being stolen has never been proven.
Just coming to this website in the last few months, there has been article after article warning leftists against attempts to steal the election. The left has been phobic about this, a phobia now proven to be unfounded.
Most conservatives, including me, accept the will of the voter last night even though we believe the choice was totally wrong.
But it is clear the left does not accept the will of the voter anymore, unless the will of the voter coincides with the will of the left.
Posted by sjchermak at 11/05/2008 @ 07:18am
McCain's concession speech last night proved again what was wrong with his campaign and that was he really had no control over it. I personally believe that Palin (or is it Palenty as she was introduced at the RNC? =p) was not his choice and instead she was choosen in hopes that the "Hillary" voters would flock to the McCain campaign. Ah well it doesn't matter anymore does it? I am just wondering where the blame game (or is it the crying game?) is going to start and who will be blamed for what.
Personally I am happy that McCain did not win and that this election is a landslide victory and that the states that are still being contested will not make a difference, besides McCain conceeded anyhow. Now Palin can go back to Alaska so she can see Russia from her porch. (Which she cannot by the way unless she lives on an island in the Aleutians.) I personally was more worried about a McCain/Palin administration than an Obama/Biden administration.
Posted by jloughry1976 at 11/05/2008 @ 07:33am
Posted by sjchermak at 11/05/2008 @ 07:18am
Hello, SJ.
Looks like America has had enough of your politics. And, as "the left" fought for voting rights for the last 8 years, illegalities were kept to a minimum this time around. If you still think the 2000 and 2004 elections were on the up and up, maybe you need to look back into the republicans that were convicted.
Or does a conviction of vote tampering not mean anything to you?
President Barak Hussein Obama. Fair and square.
Rolls of your tongue, doesn't it?
President Barak Hussein Obama.
The peoples choice.
338 electoral votes. No hanging chads, no Ohio voter suppression, no florida purged voting rolls. no waiting till Dec 15.
America wanted CHANGE from your pick. A pick that has the WORST approval ratings since.... EVER!!!
Have a great 4 years backing your new president with all of your patriotic heart!! Dissent is Un-American while at war. Bush taught us that, I expect you to live it.
Posted by crabwalk at 11/05/2008 @ 07:52am
Most conservatives, including me, accept the will of the voter last night even though we believe the choice was totally wrong.
But it is clear the left does not accept the will of the voter anymore, unless the will of the voter coincides with the will of the left.-----Posted by sjchermak at 11/05/2008 @ 07:18am
SAVE THIS...everybody.
Withing weeks, maybe days...he'll totally contradict it.
Posted by Mask at 11/05/2008 @ 09:00am
crabwalk,
You said "Have a great 4 years backing your new president with all of your patriotic heart!! Dissent is Un-American while at war. Bush taught us that, I expect you to live it."
But you totally refused to do the same for the past 8 years. Totally refused, but now in the fit of lib arrogance, you "expect" me to "live it".
That brings up a continuation to my original thoughts. Now, criticism of Barack Obama will not be tolerated. The same people who screamed in fury anytime their patriotism was being questioned, screamed that this is not Nazi Germany and they are not required to march like storm troopers in support of a government they oppose, will absolutely demand total loyalty to the new government.
Anybody that dare question the new president will be condemned.
Mask has already set the stage for this. Mask indicates that I will contridict myself within days.
I said in my original posting that criticism of a president by the opposition party has gone on since the beginning of this country, and that in itself is not wrong. But then I pointed out the unbridled torrent of rage that has been applied to George W. Bush since day one of his Presidency.
Agreeing with the will of the voter is not the same as never criticizing. But it is clear that the left not only criticized, which is their right in a free society, but they did not agree with the will of the voter in 2000 or in 2004. The rage, fury and fixation that elections were stolen were beyond anything I have ever seen before directed towards a president of either party.
Mask has me on record, and thus any criticism of Barack Obama will be declared by Mask to be contridiction. Mask and crabwalk have made my points for me.
Is Mask really Maskdelta? Do you have 2 personalities?
Posted by sjchermak at 11/05/2008 @ 09:58am
This "we can save the world" stuff is truly edging on arrogance. Posted by ACook at 11/05/2008 @ 02:48am
Actually we have been a part of the saving of the world. See WWII.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 11/05/2008 @ 10:06am
But it is clear that the left not only criticized, which is their right in a free society, but they did not agree with the will of the voter in 2000 or in 2004.
Posted by sjchermak at 11/05/2008 @ 09:58am
Can I ask how the left didn't agree with the will of the voters an it wasn't just a disagreeance of opinion just like you are claiming the right "always" does(more partisan BS by the way and you are full of it.)
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 11/05/2008 @ 10:08am
Posted by sjchermak at 11/05/2008 @ 09:58am
No, it's my original nick that was bugged.
My point is....as soon as Rush starts talking to you about "ACORN" and "Media in the bag for Obama" and "He REALLY DIDN'T win by all that much...Most Americans still are conservatives"....
you'll contradict your "I accept Obama's election was the true will of the people."
You're that predictable...since Limbaugh, Hannity, et al are that predictable.
Posted by Mask at 11/05/2008 @ 10:24am
sjchermak-Bush was supported by the vast majority after 9/11,but lost that support due to his incompetence and dishonesty.
Posted by i'm nobody at 11/05/2008 @ 10:58am
Cccomfo1,
I am not full of it. My opinion that the left did not agree with the will of the voter is my personal observation that no respect or deference was ever shown towards President Bush by the left, that I could see, at least to the same degree that happened to presidents of either party in the past.
You have things like President Bush honoring Ted Kennedy during the signing of that education bill, and saying complimentary things about the Clintons when they were in the White House for the unveiling of Slick Willie's official portrait, and then both Hillary and Ted crucifying President Bush at the next available opportunity.
It is just my opinion that the degree of personal invective towards President Bush is more than I ever remember any President getting before.
And if you label me as partisian Conservative, and thus just looking at this from biased perspective, I would point out (as I have in the past on these blogs) that until the late 90's I was a consistent Democrat voter.
Also, in addition to this, I would cite the left's continuing fixation about stolen elections. They have never gotten over 2000. As evidence, I would point out the continual phobia and fixation about making sure this election would not be "stolen", by authors on this site over the last couple of months. A phobia that turned out to be unfounded. A clear picture developed that any loss by the left in an election is looked upon or rationalized as a "theft" upon them, a theft they can not get over and just move on and fight another day.
People on both sides comment on, criticize and put down those on the opposite side of the political fence, nothing wrong with that in a free society.
It is just to the degree that the left has carried this in recent years.
Posted by sjchermak at 11/05/2008 @ 12:00pm
sjchermak-Bush was supported by the vast majority after 9/11,but lost that support due to his incompetence and dishonesty. Posted by i'm nobody at 11/05/2008 @ 10:58am
SJ is just so blinded by partisanship that he actually believes that when the left calls for a recount it is just disagreeing with the will of the voters and trying to steal the election. But I guarantee you, if the right ever called for a recount he would be the first to defend it as just confirming that the will of the voters is what is being upheld because that is how the rest of us, who learned to think for ourselves, look at it.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 11/05/2008 @ 12:01pm
i'm nobody,
President Bush did receive a measure of bi-partisian support after 9/11, he lost that support when he did what was necessary to fight and defeat a clear source of future terror.
Doing this is obviously not tolerated by the left in this country and by most of the utopias in Europe. You are supposed to give peace a chance until the boom really falls and it gets way worse, and the war comes anyway.
Apparently only then can you act. For once we acted when appropriate, instead of waiting and letting more bad stuff happen, and fortunately Tony Blair (a.k.a. "the lapdog" or "the poodle") did not fit the normal European mold.
Posted by sjchermak at 11/05/2008 @ 12:05pm
Cccomfo1,
Calling for a recount is not the problem. When the recount was legally resolved, but continuing to demand more counting, then that gets to be a problem.
The Gore team did not make a legal case acceptable to the courts for more manual counting. But then manual counting was allowed anyway, and only in areas Gore wanted counted, not statewide.
And - I have seen discussion of floors where the ballots were kept littered with chads. How did the chads fall off of the ballots? Were there attempts to not just count the votes but alter the votes, towards Gore?
The thing was legally resolved, but the left still did not accept it. And studies have showed that if continual counting had been allowed to continue, even though that would have been counter to election law, that President Bush would have kept winning anyway.
So how long was Gore going to bog things down? When was he ever going to accept defeat?
The answer is, we would still be counting today, if Gore had his way.
This is not partisianship on my part, but just part of the public record.
http://archives.cnn.com/ 2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories /12/13/got.here/index.html
That is the 2000 election timeline, from CNN. CNN - cable news network, not conservative news network.
It is plain as day Preident Bush won fair and square. There is no partisianship to this, you tellng me I do not think for myself is beginning to wear a little thin.
The left has never accepted the 2000 result, to the point of obsession. To me that is not accepting the will of the voter, when it becomes a complete obsession and phobia, which is plainly evident in the number of "warning" articles over the last couple of months on this website.
Posted by sjchermak at 11/05/2008 @ 12:18pm
Posted by sjchermak at 11/05/2008 @ 12:18pm
Again, I'm betting on a relatively sure thing...
SJCHER will totally contradict his "Bush won fair and square" approach...
when Rush starts telling him that "Obama had an ELECTORAL COLLEGE landslide, not a popular vote landslide" (thus ignoring how Bush won in 2000) and "The American people were FOOLED by this guy...they don't know what they're getting" (thus negating his "I respect the will of the people" promise).
Posted by Mask at 11/05/2008 @ 12:29pm
sjchermak-Bush did not lose favor because he fought against a future source of terrorism nor did he just lose favor with the left.The country isn't divided into the left and right.Most Americans are like me and have views that cross those lines and Bush lost favor with most everyone,but the far right..There is only a handful of you left that believe that Saddam was a threat and that the new Iraq is good and more will dislike the new Iraq as more facts come to light about them.
Posted by i'm nobody at 11/05/2008 @ 12:57pm
Hi Mask,
You lose your bet.
I have too much else to worry about than to worry about or concern myself with how Obama won, or why.
Concerns now will be the hope that Obama, after the type of detailed discussions with the military that a President can have, realizes that he can not just up and leave Iraq according to an artificial timetable set during his campaign, and that military involvement in Iraq needs to be based on the conditions in Iraq and the need to defeat terrorist who want to kill us and kill freedom loving Iraqis.
And that Obama realizes he needs to do what is right rather than what the political left, the Katrina Vanden Heuvels of the world, et. al., think he should do.
And that he will do what should be done even if it pisses the Katrina Vanden Heuvels, et. al. off.
That is what one needs to hope for and worry about now.
Posted by sjchermak at 11/05/2008 @ 1:05pm
i'm nobody,
The only reason that more people do not believe that Saddam was a threat is that the media has reinvented history, on the fly, to airbrush out what was going on in the world during the 90's and up until 2003, and that the media has not pointed out the actions Saddam was taking and would have taken had he not been removed, that point to what he intended to be and what role he intended to play, as a troublemaker and nuiscance who would have continued to develop WMD which, in the hands of terrorists, may have killed millions.
People in this country are used to things coming easy now (this statement refers to us as a whole, and not about individuals who may or may not be having hardships). If you want dinner, you do not have to cook for 2 hours, just nuke it in a microwave and have dinner in 5 minutes.
Applicances and cars are now more reliable and trouble free than they were even 20 years ago.
Some stores are open all of the time and if you can't get something there, then order it on the internet and have it by tomorrow.
People have no tolerance for waiting or hardship to any degree. We have had generations of people now who did not live through real national hardship in the form of World War II or the Great Depression.
With no national general tolerance for bearing with national hard times, people thing immediate solutions are possible, instant answers always available, and thus react negatively when a long war against terrorists (who want to kill us) takes place.
They thing it should be solved immediately and thus those who opposed our actions or think we should quit now can leverage the national mood quite easily. Which they, of course, have done quite successfully.
This explains the Bush unpopularity - in my own thoughts and words.
Posted by sjchermak at 11/05/2008 @ 1:15pm
sjchermak-The Iraqis aren't into freedom.That's why they voted in huge numbers to be ruled by oppressive sharia law.
Posted by i'm nobody at 11/05/2008 @ 1:16pm
sjchermak-The media did not rewrite history nor can anyone show that saddam was a threat nor can you show that the war accomplished anything good.All it did was divert attention away from those attacked us.
Posted by i'm nobody at 11/05/2008 @ 1:19pm
You lose your bet.
I have too much else to worry about than to worry about or concern myself with how Obama won, or why.----Posted by sjchermak at 11/05/2008 @ 1:05pm
Note: I said "weeks, if not days".
Some time to go yet, SJ. And many hours of apologia from Rush yet to come.
Posted by Mask at 11/05/2008 @ 1:29pm