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RedditAsked about the prospect of losing this election, Sarah Palin told ABC News in a Wednesday interview that she is not backing down.
Palin said she would never wave a "white flag of surrender against some of the political shots that we've taken," which has people buzzing, again, about her desire to run at the top of a presidential campaign ticket. (Transcript below.)
CNN's Dana Bash upped the ante on Wednesday night, reporting that she read Palin's remark to a McCain aide, rendering the person speechless. "This is certainly not a surprise to anybody who has watched Sarah Palin that she is interested in potentially future national runs," Bash said, "but it is an 'if,' and people inside of the McCain campaign do not want any discussion [of] it six days before the election." Bash, who covers Sen. McCain for CNN, stressed that Palin's comment was not playing well on The Straight Talk Express: "This is not at least initially being received well inside of the McCain campaign."
Now to be accurate, it sounds like Palin was stressing that she is a fighter in general -- unaffected by all the "political shots" -- not that she's convening focus groups for her next bid. Yet CNN is playing it up as a larger declaration, as you can see in the clip below, and ABC started the fire with the headline "Sarah Palin Vows to Remain Player in 2012: 'Not Doing This For Naught.'"
Politically, this is obviously a damaging televised narrative for McCain/Palin, breaking on the very night Obama has the luxury of skipping the broadcast media filter with his paid network address.
UPDATE: Here is the entire exchange from the ABC interview:
VARGAS: But the point being that you haven't been so bruised by some of the double standard, the sexism on the campaign trail, to say, "I've had it. I'm going back to Alaska."
PALIN: Absolutely not. I think that, if I were to give up and wave a white flag of surrender against some of the political shots that we've taken, that ... that would ... bring this whole ... I'm not doin' this for naught.
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Two reasons my mother decided to vote for Obama:
1) General Powell's endorsement. 2) "Palin is a crazy bitch" (her words not mine).
My mother has NEVER voted Democrat in her life and she is 67 years old.
Posted by Darth_Vulgar at 10/29/2008 @ 7:14pm
if the republican party is so bankrupt that this witchcraft excorcizin', creationist, seccecionist, wacko is gonna be their standard bearer in 2012...
well ALL RIGHT! BRING IT ON!
LMAO!!!
Posted by dexter666 at 10/29/2008 @ 7:28pm
The repulicans are finished.
KAPUT
Today's repubs will be tomorrow's democrats.
And another party will be even farther left.
We're in the left lane to stay baby.
Burn it down!
Posted by bleedingheart at 10/29/2008 @ 7:31pm
And another party will be even farther left.
=
Another party will form that's even farther left.
Posted by bleedingheart at 10/29/2008 @ 7:35pm
is sarah palin the best the repugnants can do?
actually someone like huckleberry would be a better bet...
but PLEASE run that nutcase ignoramus in 2012, repugnants!!!
Posted by dexter666 at 10/29/2008 @ 7:37pm
"Sounds like repeats of 1964 when the Dems thought they had buried conservatives. Then Republicans took control of the White House for 28 of 40 years following LBJ (so far)."
Except that the template for much of those Republican victories, that is, appealing to racism, is obviously failing.
Please, please, please make Palin the face of the Republican Party. She will make it a regional party of the Deep South, Wyoming, and Idaho. Not enough electoral votes, and utterly divisive. The thought of it is wonderful.
Posted by onthehelm at 10/29/2008 @ 7:38pm
Posted by lvliberty1 at 10/29/2008 @ 7:34pm | ignore this person | warn this person
the cons buried themselves on this one.
Posted by dexter666 at 10/29/2008 @ 7:41pm
Posted by lvliberty1 at 10/29/2008 @ 7
Nixon was a conservative, LL?
EPA?...OSHA?....wage and price controls?....detente with the Russkies....met with Mao??!?!?!??
Posted by Maskdelta at 10/29/2008 @ 7:43pm
but Powell is not a conservative and most conservatives were not surprised he endorsed Obama since he had been hinting at it for months.
Posted by lvliberty1 at 10/29/2008 @ 7:17pm
Funny thing is, when General Powell spouted the bullshit the Rethuglicans wanted they were of the opinion that he was the most intelligent man in the world. A great American and a great conservative.
The very second he endorsed Obama they were of the opinion that General Powell was just another stupid darkie that endorsed Obama because their skin color matched.
One does not rise to the rank of the Chairman of the Joints Chiefs of Staff by being a fucking moron.
Posted by Darth_Vulgar at 10/29/2008 @ 7:45pm
BTW, LL or any Rightie...
shouldn't Palin's response have been...
"Well, I don't think we're going to lose in 2008, Elizabeth, so there's no point in discussing that hypothetical"????
Posted by Maskdelta at 10/29/2008 @ 7:46pm
Nixon was a conservative, LL?
EPA?...OSHA?....wage and price controls?....detente with the Russkies....met with Mao??!?!?!??
Posted by Maskdelta at 10/29/2008 @ 7:43pm
How DARE Nixon doing something to protect the environment and worker safety!!!
Posted by Darth_Vulgar at 10/29/2008 @ 7:52pm
Posted by Darth_Vulgar at 10/29/2008 @ 7:52pm
Given Larry's "28 of 40 years following LBJ"...that somehow means that Nixon, Ford, and Bush-41 were all conservatives....
which seems odd, given Nixon's expansion of the Government, Ford's continuation of detente, and Bush-41 RAISING taxes!?!?!???!??
Posted by Maskdelta at 10/29/2008 @ 8:07pm
I don't remember any conservatives calling Powell a conservative. He was known even in the early 90's as pro-abortion moderate.
No one on the right that I know of is calling Powell a moron. Can you cite someone?
It sounds like you are a bit of a racist yourself. Having a family of color, I'm quite aware of phony liberals who are closet racists.
Posted by lvliberty1 at 10/29/2008 @ 7:52pm
In the early 90s he was still Chairman of the Joint Chiefs. As a solider he may have had his political views but they were his own and private.
Show me were I stated that anyone called him a moron.
Now to the last part:
My family arrived in America in 1752. Fought in every war from the Revolution to present (including both sides of the Civil War). No one from my branch of the family ever owned slaves.
As far as being racist, I was in my younger days (being from the south it was hard to avoid). Enlisting in the Army cured me of that quickly. My niece has two children of mixed background and I take delight in playing with them when they visit.
And lastly, I wasn't always liberal. I used to be so fucking conservative that I make you look like a fucking communist.
What most folks don't understand is this: some issues require a conservative approach, some issues require a liberal approach, and some issue require either a balance of the two or something completely different.
The past eight years have been a god-damned disaster. Time to try another approach.
Posted by Darth_Vulgar at 10/29/2008 @ 8:10pm
So now Nixon was liberal. Who woulda thunk it?
Posted by Hman23 at 10/29/2008 @ 8:12pm
Kind of makes you wonder how someone like LIBERTY thinks that conservative philosophy is favored by most Americans.
Unless he thinks it is a minority view that is.
Posted by Hman23 at 10/29/2008 @ 8:14pm
Hey Vulgar go join the daughters of the revolution.1752,who fu$k*n gives a sh@#
Posted by IhateIllinoisnazis at 10/29/2008 @ 8:40pm
"One does not rise to the rank of the Chairman of the Joints Chiefs of Staff by being a fucking moron."
No, the Republicans leave the moron seat open for POTUS.
Posted by desiraen at 10/29/2008 @ 8:41pm
Hey Vulgar go join the daughters of the revolution.1752,who fu$k*n gives a sh@#
Posted by IhateIllinoisnazis at 10/29/2008 @ 8:40pm
Considering that LL attacked me directly, I decided that a little of my family history should be revealed.
How about you? Care to share anything about yourself that may shed some light on your character?
Posted by Darth_Vulgar at 10/29/2008 @ 8:44pm
Posted by IhateIllinoisnazis at 10/29/2008 @ 8:40pm | ignore this person | warn this person
illinois nazis? you mean like those guys from "blues brothers"?
"the jew uses the nigger for muscle! watcha gonna do, WHITE BOY?!?!?!"
or...
"i've always loved you"
you mean those kinda illinois nazis? or are you referring to someone else from illinois?
Posted by dexter666 at 10/29/2008 @ 8:50pm
i had an ancestor at jamestown. came over with his manservent.
later on i had an acestor that married one rich slave owning widow after another...and he was from boston!!!
guess rich slave owning widows had a high mortality rate in them days...
regardless, that was then,and this is now - or that was them and this is me...
OBAMA/BIDEN 08
Posted by dexter666 at 10/29/2008 @ 8:53pm
I just want my goddamn chezewhiz.....Boy.
Posted by IhateIllinoisnazis at 10/29/2008 @ 9:06pm
>>>It sounds like you are a bit of a racist yourself. Having a family of color, I'm quite aware of phony liberals who are closet racists.
Posted by lvliberty1 at 10/29/2008 @ 7:52pm<<<
LVL,
It is the Republicans that have a racism problem which caused them to pick "hockey" mom Palin over Rhodes Scholar Bobby Jindal.
Jindal has serious conservative credentials that would ordinarily appeal to the Republican base, but "conservatism" has been re-interpreted by Republicans to mean no-darkies, and Jindal's dark skin based on his East Indian background was a concern for party insiders because they felt it would turn off too many voters in the Republican base.
I am obviously not a conservative or even a moderate, but I have to admit that Jindal is impressive, especially his intelligence and problem solving ability. Jindal is MILES ahead of Palin in nearly every category.
Too bad for the Republicans that racism within the party kept him off the ticket.
Posted by Metteyya at 10/29/2008 @ 9:10pm
Personally, I just don't see Palin's words as worthy of this sort of accusation, that she's tossing in the towel and promoting herself for the next time around. I don't think she's an idiot but I don't think the manager at the local grocery store, vice principal of the local elementary or middle school, or the guys who owns a subway franchise are idiots either.
I do think Palin's probably got a character / integrity problem. This is similar to Bush in that she doesn't recognize her own limitations but in fact holds very contorted, patently false beliefs regarding her capacities.
She'd be great on a reality tv show.
Posted by winyahn at 10/29/2008 @ 9:10pm
Do you mean 666 as in Iron Maiden number of the beast666, or was your first post on june,6th 2006
Posted by IhateIllinoisnazis at 10/29/2008 @ 9:16pm
Posted by Metteyya at 10/29/2008 @ 9:10pm | ignore this person | warn this person
you think jindal would have taken it? he IS a rhodes scholar...
but yeah - thank god...or whoever...
Posted by dexter666 at 10/29/2008 @ 9:17pm
I just want my goddamn chezewhiz.....Boy.
Posted by IhateIllinoisnazis at 10/29/2008
On this issue we can agree.
Posted by Darth_Vulgar at 10/29/2008 @ 9:17pm
ok im done
Posted by IhateIllinoisnazis at 10/29/2008 @ 9:19pm
Posted by Metteyya at 10/29/2008 @ 9:10pm | ignore this person | warn this person
holy shit! where you been?!?!?!?
nice to have you back ya old political retard!!!
----------------------------------------
after years of faithful lefty rah rah posting the webmaster of this mag or someone/something banned me without telling me.
i finally figgered it out one day and returned as a satanic version of my favorite showtime character, dexter morgan, the serial killer who kills serial killers...which appeals to me...
and i'm the anti-christ, od course...
Posted by dexter666 at 10/29/2008 @ 9:21pm
OOOOOOPS
that "holy shit was meant for...
Posted by HAPPYLonghorn at 10/29/2008 @ 9:14pm | ignore this person | warn this person
not you, METT...lol
Posted by dexter666 at 10/29/2008 @ 9:22pm
So now Nixon was liberal. Who woulda thunk it?-----Posted by Hman23 at 10/29/2008 @ 8:12pm
Comparatively, yes. Good or bad, it started with Reagan....not Nixon. So LL's theory is flawed. Throw in Bush-41.
Posted by Maskdelta at 10/29/2008 @ 9:34pm
In an attempt to tamp down expectations of the kind of quality the American people might expect of him as President, AIPAC Stephin Fetchit, Barak Obama, has purchased a half hour of air time to offer gems like this:
"I will not be a perfect president," Obama said in the commercial. "But I can promise you this - I will always tell you what I think and where I stand."
And to this axiom, experience forces us to add the tag, "even if it contradicts everything I've said ten minutes ago". So much for authenticity in the form of noxious political self-service. Barak Obama, the rich man's Huey Long.
Posted by john lowell at 10/29/2008 @ 9:40pm
Posted by dexter666 at 10/29/2008 @ 9:22pm
No Problem!
HAP has been pre-occupied with falling oil prices since he PROMISED US that oil would go back to $150 a barrel and had bet the bank on that happening.
I hope he used stop losses rather than double down with the hope of oil going back up before the election.
I had said all along that the inflated price was not supply and demand determined but determined by oil futures traders who are primarily Republicans. They are selling these oil futures contracts to try to help Republicans on Nov 4, and will then bid the price back up to make one final push for oil profits before Obama takes over.
Posted by Metteyya at 10/29/2008 @ 9:41pm
What a bizarre article.
Posted by crabwalk at 10/29/2008 @ 9:43pm
HELP!!! I need advice from my fellow progressives. The election is six days away and I am still extremely conflicted about who I will be pulling the lever for. I voted for Dennis Kucinich in the primaries, because I felt that he was the candidate whose ideas best reflected my own. As a 27 year-old African-American, I cannot deny that the idea of a black man becoming the next president of the United States is inspiring, but that is simply not enough for me. I love Obama's apparent thirst for change and I can overlook our differences on certain issues - like his support for the FISA bill, the war in Afghanistan, and even the death penalty, but it is his narrow-minded approach to the conflict between Israel and Palestine that I find most disturbing. In some ways I feel like a vote for him would be like voting for a George Washington or Thomas Jefferson. Sure many people love and respect them, they are admired and revered by most Americans, but as a black woman I see them only as men who supported and participated in the maintenance of American slavery and apartheid, the same kind of apartheid that currently exists in Palestine. For some time now I have been leaning toward a vote for Nader or McKinney, but I do have a certain level of anxiety about the prospects of my vote contributing to success for McCain/Palin. Do I send a message by supporting a progressive third party candidate or do I vote for Obama with the hope that an Obama presidency will be easier to pull closer to the left than a McCain presidency? Help Help Help!
Posted by progressivehelp at 10/29/2008 @ 9:53pm
Posted by progressivehelp at 10/29/2008 @ 9:53pm
Who do you think would make the best president?
Posted by crabwalk at 10/29/2008 @ 9:57pm
prohlp your making this too complicated.
Posted by IhateIllinoisnazis at 10/29/2008 @ 10:11pm
Posted by progressivehelp at 10/29/2008 @ 9:53pm
No brainer...A VOTE FOR NADER OR MCKINNEY IS "REALLY" A VOTE FOR MCCAIN!!!
NEVER FORGET 2000 IN WHICH FAILING TO SUPPORT GORE BY WASTING YOUR VOTE ON NADER GAVE US GEORGE W!!!
Posted by Metteyya at 10/29/2008 @ 10:19pm
Bob and I just watched the Obama infomercial and he just laid out the same plan he has laid out every time he speaks but he does it with such conviction that one has to believe he can do it.
This ad, which aired on CBS, NBC, Fox, BET, Univision, MSNBC, and TV One, was powerful. If this doesn't put the man in the White House, it will be because of America's racism.
I particularly liked it when he said, "I will not be a perfect president, but I can promise you this, I will always tell you what I think and Where I stand." That's so refreshing after eight years of a man who cannot bring himself to admit he was wrong.
He discussed health care as well as the nation's economic problems. He stressed his plan to offer tax cuts to the middle class and raise taxes on those who make over $250,000 a year. And, once again, he referred to our present situation as the "final verdict on eight years of failed policies." The video showed a lot of his supporters as well as ordinary people.
McCain, whose campaign could not afford to do this, sniped at Obama. "He's got a few things he wants to sell you. He's offering government run health care, an energy plan guaranteed to work without drilling, and an automatic wealth spreader that folds neatly and fits under any bed." Sour grapes, I'd say. McCain needs to check with FactCheck.org.
The ad did not appear on ABC because by the time they decided to sell Obama the time, the buy was already made.
Obama's eldest daughter, Malia, 10, was afraid the ad was going to make her miss her programs. Obama had to tell her that they did not buy the Disney Channel. That relieved her.
This is a good and decent man and we don't see a lot of those in Washington. I urge all my readers to vote for him.
Oh, as a postscript:
Joe the Plumber says Obama hate
Posted by Margie_Miller1 at 10/29/2008 @ 10:24pm
progressivehelp, I admire Nader and agree with you on Israel/Palestine; but, think of our national health care for our elderly and our early childhood programs. Only Obama will fix that. Do not forget that Palin took money away from pregant teens as Governor. Her child has a home...what about the girls that are out on their own? Those babies (look at the criminology stats) will have a greater chance for costing all of us for health problems, exceptional education services, foster care and incarceration. We can do a better job at helping young mothers and their infants and our increasing elderly population. If Palin's policies become a reality, we will be beseiged with more abusives of office, more hate rhetoric for ethnic groups, and more conflict between our faith groups.
Another reason for not agreeing with Obama/Biden, yet still giving them your vote is this: of the four candidates, Joe Biden has paid his dues. He is the most selfless and has proven to be a champion for the underclass. The greater the divide between the haves and the have nots will injure all of us as crime rises and respect for our government deminishes nationally and internationally.
Good job reaching out for advice.
Posted by truthandjustice at 10/29/2008 @ 10:32pm
Back on-topic...
again, Paliniacs...
why didn't Saint Sarah respond "I'm focusing on 2008 and how me and John McCain are going to win next Tuesday, Elizabeth, not worrying about 4 years from now"?
No...she LEAPED at the chance to discuss her NON-Vice Presidential political future!
Posted by Maskdelta at 10/29/2008 @ 10:43pm
I am an indie Obama supporter, I have voted for more GOP Presidential candidates since 1980 than democrats
Is Gov Sarah Palin a footnote or force? She energizes the base....but this election is a product of Karl Rove....his politics did not grow the party....the John McCain of 2000 may have expanded the party but not now....if the GOP wants to grow and expand they may see Palin as too polarizing.
Palin has turned off indie voters, and if the GOP moves toward the center her chances will diminish. She only has gravitas with the base...If Obama flips many "red" states; Palin won't be the voice the GOP needs to get them back. She will have to reinvent herself in much the way Richard Nixon did after he lost to JFK in 60 and Pat Brown in 62, and make she more palatable to a wider spectrum of voters, and hope the country has soured on the Democrats.
Posted by stlfilmaker at 10/29/2008 @ 10:51pm
Then Republicans took control of the White House for 28 of 40 years following LBJ (so far).
Posted by lvliberty1 at 10/29/2008 @ 7:34pm
and look where you've arrived.
Posted by frosty zoom at 10/29/2008 @ 10:58pm
Your best years to climb them ladders, increase your wealth and to plan for your own retirements will be f*&ked!
Posted by HAPPYLonghorn at 10/29/2008
HAPPY, (how ya' doin'?)
republicans are terrible fiscally.
haven't you learned yet?
Posted by frosty zoom at 10/29/2008 @ 11:02pm
If Mr. JT Plumber can become McCain's top Foreign Policy expert than Sarah Palin can become the Republican Presidential nominee. The only question will be who her Vice Presidential running mate is going to be. My money's on Ted Stevens... assuming he's out of jail by 2012.
Posted by wbramh at 10/29/2008 @ 11:04pm
The sheer idiocy of this thread speaks for itself.
Posted by RedRiver_. at 10/29/2008 @ 10:46pm
Posted by frosty zoom at 10/29/2008 @ 11:06pm
Having picked a Palin/ Stevens ticket in 2012, I'd love to see a Palin/ Jindal pairing. They'd make all of their executive decisions by consulting with witch-hunters, exorcists and Ouija boards. I'm sure the number of Illegal Alien vampires would drop to zero.
Posted by wbramh at 10/29/2008 @ 11:11pm
Posted by HAPPYLonghorn at 10/29/2008 @ 9:14pm
You're joking, right?
That can only be said as a smartassed comment, so I will have to assume that statement was made in jest, and not seriously.
Short of starting nuclear war with China, or having 90% of the country starving to death, it can't get any worse.
Do you understand ANYTHING about economics? Get your ass to your local community college and enroll in an econ 101 class, your sheer ignorance is astounding.
Get the republicans out of office and let's find some REAL conservatives to take over.
Posted by TexasFlood at 10/29/2008 @ 11:15pm
I was just thinking have any of the resident Reaganwackers ever demonstrated the ability to embrace the thinnest beginnings of reality, e.g., that Obama's run a slightly better (with all the way up to shockingly superior also acceptable) campaign than McCain?
With Clinton, they'd all use the line, "he's an excellent politician" to enable them to hang on to 99% of their self-deception. Help yourself to that one when your other reality-distancing tricks stop working.
Posted by winyahn at 10/29/2008 @ 11:35pm
The sheer idiocy of this thread speaks for itself.
Posted by RedRiver_. at 10/29/2008 @ 10:46pm | ignore this person | warn this person
"basically yer shits all fucked up and yer tarded. oh, and you talk like a fag...
don't worry, scro, plenty of tards out there livin' perfectly kick ass lives, like my ex wife. she's a pilot!"
dr. lexus (jason long) from the film, Idiocracy...highly reccomended for those of all political stripes...
Posted by dexter666 at 10/29/2008 @ 11:43pm
Palin would get squashed like a bug were she ever to campaign at the top of the ticket. She has been so sheltered in this campaign no one has seen her have to answer a tough question- at least the few she has had she has failed, and then whined about it. Should she ever have to face the harsh reality of being the top of the ticket she would be outted so fast as the shallow unstable babbler she really is that she'd never win the primary, much less a general election. I frankly don't even think she'll be reelected Governor.
Posted by Anhyzer at 10/29/2008 @ 11:51pm
Bush has dug a big hole, and he wants to give McCain the shovel... great line Barack.
Another day, another no lynching.
Posted by winyahn at 10/30/2008 @ 12:01am
Posted by Margie_Miller1 at 10/29/2008 @ 10:24pm
"Bob and I just watched the Obama infomercial and he just laid out the same plan he has laid out every time he speaks but he does it with such conviction that one has to believe he can do it."
What an absolutely credulous idiot you are. The man hasn't held to even one important position he's announced since the campaign began and "one has to believe he can do it"? Did he vote to fund the war when he said he wouldn't? Did he back out of his promise respecting campaign finance reform? Did he vote as he assured you he would to protect your privacy from government snoops? Why this eel is the very personification of the political lie and here you are - along with Bob one assumes - vomitting on the rug for him.
There is little more nauseating in life than to witness the moon-eye shmendrik all caught up in the thrall of political posturing. Ordinarily emetics are recommended for such a malady.
Posted by john lowell at 10/30/2008 @ 12:11am
Do I send a message by supporting a progressive third party candidate or do I vote for Obama with the hope that an Obama presidency will be easier to pull closer to the left than a McCain presidency? Help Help Help!
Posted by progressivehelp at 10/29/2008 @ 9:53pm
No brainer...A VOTE FOR NADER OR MCKINNEY IS "REALLY" A VOTE FOR MCCAIN!!!
NEVER FORGET 2000 IN WHICH FAILING TO SUPPORT GORE BY WASTING YOUR VOTE ON NADER GAVE US GEORGE W!!!
Posted by Metteyya at 10/29/2008 @ 10:19pm
NOOOO! SEND A MESSAGE! SEND A MESSAGE!!!
Posted by usc1 at 10/30/2008 @ 12:48am
but Powell is not a conservative osted by lvliberty1 at 10/29/2008 @ 7:17pm
What maketh a conservative?
Posted by A_Pax_On_Your_Houses at 10/30/2008 @ 01:19am
Palin as a GOP candidate will amount to no more than what Pat Buchanan garnered during the presidential primary in 1992. She is a polarizing figure in this country and I look forward to seeing her getting eaten alive pr reamed a new one during the GOP primary on 2012 by Jindal, Romney, and Huckabee. hmmmmm this will be more exciting to watch than a porno flick. It will be called DRILL BABY DRILL!!!
Posted by TKDuff at 10/30/2008 @ 05:47am
Now theres a news flash----a politician with ambition.
Went to one of her rallies----she has charisma and is very very popular among her base----A democrats worst nightmare---Ronald Reagan in a skirt.
Posted by Len Mosse at 10/30/2008 @ 07:55am
NEVER FORGET 2000 IN WHICH FAILING TO SUPPORT GORE BY WASTING YOUR VOTE ON NADER GAVE US GEORGE W!!! Posted by Metteyya at 10/29/2008 @ 10:19pm
NEVER FORGET THIS ISN'T TRUE!!!
Posted by crabwalk at 10/30/2008 @ 08:16am
LEN, You missed the memo, Barak has charisma coming out his shoes, but that makes him UNqualified.
Posted by crabwalk at 10/30/2008 @ 08:24am
"or that was them and this is me..."
Posted by dexter666 at 10/29/2008 @ 8:53pm
I wish people believed that about others too. Just because someone is Caucasian and lives in a southern state, he/she is assumed to be racist, at least to some extent. It becomes tiresome after a while.
Posted by jayneslilsis at 10/30/2008 @ 08:55am
Ronald Reagan in a skirt.----Posted by Len Mosse at 10/30/2008 @ 07:55am
Hey, Len...in 1976, when Reagan was supporting Gerald Ford?
Was he going around talking about his ambitions for 1980?!??!?
Sorry...Reagan had atleast more class and more loyalty than Caribou Barbie.
Posted by Maskdelta at 10/30/2008 @ 09:10am
I cant get the image of Ronald Reagan in skirt out of my head,Thanks for ruining my day len.
Posted by IhateIllinoisnazis at 10/30/2008 @ 09:21am
It sounds like you are a bit of a racist yourself. Having a family of color, I'm quite aware of phony liberals who are closet racists. Posted by lvliberty1 at 10/29/2008 @ 7:52pm
Many people would say the same about you LVL.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 10/30/2008 @ 09:40am
Posted by HAPPYLonghorn at 10/29/2008 @ 9:14pm
You go ahead and take solace in your good feel Happy and keep putting your stock in national polls. According to state polls McCain ain't even close in the electoral college. Even according to a lot of the polls that have it close in the national trackers. Don't forget our bet Happy.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 10/30/2008 @ 09:55am
As noted above, I was responding to these claims that the Republican party is dead. Obviously as I noted, Nixon was a liberal and Ford and Bush 1 were left-center. Posted by lvliberty1 at 10/30/2008 @ 10:09am
Yeah everyone is a liberal to you. Well at least every President who was a failure is liberal to you. Anyone who succeeded is a good ole boy Republican.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 10/30/2008 @ 11:15am
And then Joe goes rogue, it was pretty pathetic this morning...Red dog redog...where's Joe?
Posted by Beekay at 10/30/2008 @ 1:04pm
I cant get the image of Ronald Reagan in skirt out of my head,Thanks for ruining my day len.
Posted by IhateIllinoisnazis at 10/30/2008 @ 09:21am
Could be worse - he could have mentioned Giuliani in a dress!! Damn, now I've just ruined MY day!
Posted by jmusolino at 10/30/2008 @ 1:10pm
Maybe a moose will get her before she can destroy this country.
Posted by lvdragonlady at 10/30/2008 @ 1:15pm
I don't remember any conservatives calling Powell a conservative. He was known even in the early 90's as pro-abortion moderate.
Liver, get your shit straight for once. Being pro-choice or anti-abortion isn't a conservative or non-conservative or even a moderate issue (though idiots like you like to use it as a wedge issue for the us against them tactics you use so frequently).
A person can have conservative views with respect to financial matters, and quite differents social views to another. Point in case, I have a friend who is voting for McCain because he makes well over $200k a year and doesn't want to pay more in taxes. He's pro-choice and disagrees with pretty much all of the right wing philosophies with the exception of taxation.
By your definition, is he a democrat or republican? He's voting for your boy McCain and splitting hairs on the abortion issue betting that McCain won't push the issue if he gets into office.
By the way, you conservatives have become quite the socialistic folks as of late with spending federal dollars left and right on two wars, bailing out the banks and wallstreet, and of course doling money into Pakistan, Egypt, Jordan, Israel, Georgia... and the list goes on and on. How do you propose to pay for this? Lowering taxes?! How about cutting the military budget by about 50% and getting the hell out of Iraq? That's CONSERVING our tax dollars.
Posted by Wolfgang1 at 10/30/2008 @ 2:25pm
but Powell is not a conservative and most conservatives were not surprised he endorsed Obama since he had been hinting at it for months. Posted by lvliberty1 at 10/29/2008 @ 7:17pm
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Powell is a conservative, by any reasonable definition. What he's not is a batsh*t-crazy nutball. And if those bs-c nutballs *weren't* surprised, they sure started foaming at the mouth and falling over backwards as if *something* unexpected had happened.
Posted by mixedcontent at 10/30/2008 @ 2:37pm
I cant get the image of Ronald Reagan in skirt out of my head, [...] Posted by IhateIllinoisnazis at 10/30/2008 @ 09:21a
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...dancing with J. Edgar "Mary" Hoover?
Posted by mixedcontent at 10/30/2008 @ 2:39pm
Did he back out of his promise respecting campaign finance reform? [...] Posted by john lowell at 10/30/2008 @ 12:11am ====
No, he didn't, though CNN's Taylor whatsername is flogging that lie relentlessly. First off, he didn't promise to take public financing. His commitment was to negotiate with the other campaign when the primaries were over. But by then, McCain had made it clear he wasn't going to rein in his 527's the way Obama did. So McCain may only have federal dollars to spend himself, but those 527's are exempt. So clearly, McCain had no intention of abiding by the intent of campaign-finance laws.
Second, the point of public financing is to work against the influence of big-money donors, who naturally want something in return for giving, oh, $10,000, $100,ooo. But what kind of influence does the average $104 Obama donor get? None, essentially. How much more "public" can financing get?
==== There is little more nauseating in life than to witness the moon-eye shmendrik all caught up in the thrall of political posturing. Ordinarily emetics are recommended for such a malady. Posted by john lowell at 10/30/2008 @ 12:11am
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Maybe people puffing themselves into a state of righteous indignation about the imagined sins of others.
Posted by mixedcontent at 10/30/2008 @ 3:30pm
The consensus view among conservatives is that of a pro-life, limited govt, low tax, strong military political philosophy and an originalist judicial philosophy . Posted by lvliberty1 at 10/30/2008 @ 4:36pm
Funny because I'm pretty sure those conservatives who are not one of those things don't feel that's the consensus. I think that is the consensus among the circles YOU run with.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 10/30/2008 @ 4:56pm
The Palin choice made it really easy for me to vote for "the other guy". We have liberally proven that "You can't fix stupid" as Ron White says. The stench of "stupid" is going to be with us for a long long time, and there isn't any question of intelligence in this campaign. I literally heard someone say that he was going going to vote for MccCain because "He didn't sound too high falutin and intelligent. "His ideas", McCain's "were simple and down to earth". Sure, more tax breaks for the wealthy so they can ship jobs to China. Then we have (Joe the plumber). This guy wouldn't know the truth if it they tattooed it on his private.
Posted by lachatte at 11/02/2008 @ 10:15am