McCain's Ayers Attacks Backfire

posted by Ari Berman on 10/08/2008 @ 11:40am

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Sarah Palin was on the verge of inciting a race riot in northern Florida yesterday. At her rallies, the Republican faithful hurled a racial epithet at a black sound man, and screamed "kill him" and "treason!" at Barack Obama.

"Boy, you guys just get it!" Palin responded. This reaction, presumably, was what Palin had in mind when she urged John McCain to "take the gloves off."

The McCain campaign initially took her advice, sending out three emails about Obama and Bill Ayers yesterday and pushing the angle hard on the news media. But by the time McCain got to debating, he made no mention of Ayers or Jeremiah Wright or Tony Rezko. For once, McCain knew better. His campaign looked supremely silly the day before, ranting about domestic terrorists from the 1960s when the Dow was plunging 800 points.

Republican commentators and strategists from across the board panned McCain's Ayers offensive. Said New York Times columnist David Brooks on the NewsHour:

McCain`s tactic over the last couple weeks or especially over the last few days has been, "I`m behind. I`ve got to go after his character." And so he`s been talking about Bill Ayers, the former Weatherman or terrorist, or however you want to put it. He`s been talking about all these other issues. And I sort of understand why he`s doing this, because you`re behind. Obama is still sort of undefined. Redefine him as somebody who`s radical and dangerous and risky.

But in the context of this economic crisis, I just think it's a disaster. I just don`t think you`re going to persuade people Barack Obama is a risky terrorist and extremist. I just don`t think people are going to buy that basic point.

CNN Republican strategists Alex Castellanos and Leslie Sanchez concurred, panning both McCain's anemic debate performance and floundering campaign strategy. Here's an excerpt:

ANDERSON COOPER: So can it change back? Is there any way that you can see, Alex Castellanos, a change for that?

CASTELLANOS: Sure, it could change but it's exceedingly hard and McCain not do it with an attack strategy. He needs a come-back strategy.

COOPER: But what we're hearing from them on the trail is attacks on the personal issues, on the so-called character issues, these allegations of relationships.

SANCHEZ: Yes, totally missed the point.

Added James Carville:

There is little left here, it probably will not change. The time to attack Obama culturally was much earlier. And any cultural attacks now, people are like, oh, come on, this sounds kind of petty and small. I suspect that they made that decision very quickly before the debate to sort of lay off of these sort of cultural attacks because they just given a deal with that.

Turns out Carville was right. Following the debate Ben Smith and Jonathan Martin of The Politico reported that "top [McCain] aides suggested afterward that, going forward, the candidate wouldn't focus on the former domestic terrorist nor invoke the name of Obama's controversial pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright."

The electoral math certainly could--and probably will--change over the next month, perhaps in McCain's favor. But it's not clear what McCain has left. More and more, it's Obama who looks like he knows which way the wind blows.

UPDATE: Oops, I spoke too soon. McCain's campaign just put out a new statement about Obama and Ayers, linking to an article from April. So much for claiming they would abandon the topic.

Comments (125)

26 years of skeletons in the closet is more like it. McCain is struggling to preserve what little he has left of his political career and "Maverick" legacy.

Posted by OneVote at 10/08/2008 @ 11:50am
It's time to break out the "HATE CRIME" labels!!

NADER/GONZALES '08

Posted by bleedingheart at 10/08/2008 @ 11:55am
Posted by bleedingheart at 10/08/2008 @ 11:55am

Forget it, bleed...even GOP posers like you can't help McNasty now.

Posted by Maskdelta at 10/08/2008 @ 12:08pm
UPDATE: Oops, I spoke too soon. McCain's campaign just put out a new statement about Obama and Ayers. Will post the link when it's up. So much for the McCain campaign's assertion to Smith and Martin last night.

"I won't run a negative campaign".........

Now that they aren't facing each other in a debate format wherein Obama can refute and counterattack, they are at it again.

What a fricking coward! I would love to see Obama's operatives and 527s over-expose this corrupt charlatan....but I think he is going to basically stick to the high road. He doesn't need to do it from an offensive standpoint. McCain has dug his own grave very well thank you.

Posted by OneVote at 10/08/2008 @ 12:08pm
McCain is floundering and the more negative toward character his attacks become the more petty he looks. The more he looks like he isn't even paying attention to the growing worldwide crisis.

Posted by Cccomfo1 at 10/08/2008 @ 12:26pm
While I agree that perhaps some caution is reasonable, let's also be honest and call the cards as they lay.

John "Rumpelstiltskin" McCain is done.

"To-day do I bake, to-morrow I brew, The day after that the queen's child comes in; And oh! I am glad that nobody knew That the name I am called is Rumpelstiltskin!"

In the 1812 edition of the Brothers Grimm tales, Rumpelstiltskin then "ran away angrily, and never came back". The ending was revised in a final 1857 edition to a more gruesome version where Rumpelstiltskin "in his rage drove his right foot so far into the ground that it sank in up to his waist; then in a passion he seized the left foot with both hands and and then took his left foot and tore himself in two."

Posted by b_kool_66 at 10/08/2008 @ 12:27pm
Oh yeah.........

In case you missed it:

tinyurl.com/47qag6

Can we get a new word for the kind of hypocrisy we've been witnessing?

Perhaps...........

Hip-PO-crisy?

As in 'all wet', gargantuan, and actually quite dangerous.

Posted by b_kool_66 at 10/08/2008 @ 12:41pm
This is a replay of Hillary in her final weeks of her campaign, and is indicative that McCain is at the end of his rope.

In the final weeks of the primary, Hillary essentially said, "Vote for me because I am am White and he is Black".

After Wright, Ayers, and Rezko, all McCain has left is his white race, so this is where he will sadly turn to try to drum up votes.

It didn't work for Hillary, and ain't going to work for McCain. The vast majority of Americans are tired of voting on anything other than what is most important to them, and the color of their skin is not as important as their jobs, retirement savings, and future for their kids and grand kids.

Posted by Metteyya at 10/08/2008 @ 12:42pm
What this Magazine needs to to as well the rest of the liberal media is to keep refuting these ties to all three of these men because they are baseless and ignorant rants from Reich.McWars is at a crossroads and he doesn`t know what to do, the b!@#h (pitbull)with lipstick is just a lousy messenger who can`t speak for herself.How is Mwars going to reform Washington when he won`t even reform is campaign and stop these disgusting accusations about Obama`s personal life.Mcwars has sold his soul for the REICHS nomination but he forgot to sell for the W.H.

Posted by crease at 10/08/2008 @ 12:48pm
time for the "mideastcrisis".....

Posted by frosty zoom at 10/08/2008 @ 12:48pm
pakistan, perhaps?

Posted by frosty zoom at 10/08/2008 @ 12:49pm
What really is surprising is Mcwars has not gone after Obama`s or Biden`s families, I know that families are off limits but I am still suprised he has attacked.Or is he saving it for a last chance effort like the cranky old fart he is.

Posted by crease at 10/08/2008 @ 12:51pm
www.fivethirtyeight.com

As seen on Cobert last night, Nate Silver has Obama with "345.4 electoral votes" come November 4th.

I'll go him 4.6 better and predict that Obama breaks the 350 barrier.

Or how about.....oh........358?

Has a nice ring.......358 out of 538.......... for a 2 to 1 margin of 358 to 180.

Now, can we get an admission of the absolute need for a radical reordering of our national priorities?

YES WE CAN........get out of Iraq AND Afghanistan.

Posted by b_kool_66 at 10/08/2008 @ 12:52pm
AYERS???

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=aHjFeRF-F-U&feature=related&fmt=18&fmt=18

everybody loves the sunshine......

Posted by frosty zoom at 10/08/2008 @ 12:55pm
National bankruptcy tends to reorder priorities in ways that populist pleas cannot.

Posted by b_kool_66 at 10/08/2008 @ 12:56pm
Crappy sound quality on that Ayers post, Frost.

But I like the Sesame Street vibe for peace and sunshine.

Big Bird for prez!

Posted by b_kool_66 at 10/08/2008 @ 1:00pm
YES WE CAN........get out of Iraq AND Afghanistan.

Posted by b_kool_66 at 10/08/2008 @ 12:52pm

october's a long month.

Ω≈Ω≈Ω ≈Ω≈Ω≈ Ω≈Ω≈Ω ≈Ω≈Ω≈

studio version:

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=eQtmkoakjOc&feature=related&fmt=18

Feel what I feel, what I feel, what I feel what I'm feelin In the sunshine

Feel what I feel, what I feel, what I feel, what I'm feelin In the sunshine

Do what I do what I do what I do what I'm doing In the sunshine

Do what I do what I do what I do what I'm doing In the sunshine

Everybody loves the sunshine Sunshine...

Posted by frosty zoom at 10/08/2008 @ 1:11pm
Big Bird for prez!

Posted by b_kool_66 at 10/08/2008 @ 1:00pm

GROVER/OSCAR '08

oops, nevermind.

we'll already got that.....

Posted by frosty zoom at 10/08/2008 @ 1:13pm
we'll [no]

we [yes]

Posted by frosty zoom at 10/08/2008 @ 1:13pm
Yes.....

much better!

Thanks, crystalline comrade.

:D

Posted by b_kool_66 at 10/08/2008 @ 1:15pm
darin-You have no idea if Obama is lying about his relationship with Ayers and there is no evidence that he is,but we know for a fact that Palin has close ties to the AIP.

Posted by i'm nobody at 10/08/2008 @ 1:21pm
scratch, darin, scratch.

Posted by frosty zoom at 10/08/2008 @ 1:24pm
"Postcards from the Edge"

~Posted by Darin the Droll Troll

Darin, I believe you are a suitable case for treatment.

tinyurl.com/3vbcdv

Posted by b_kool_66 at 10/08/2008 @ 1:24pm
Fear is all they've got, marketed to those in America who are ignorant. It's all they've ever had since Joe McCarthy.

Posted by hrayovac at 10/08/2008 @ 1:27pm
Posted by Darin_the_Troll at 10/08/2008 @ 1:16pm

Give it up, DARIN!

Most voters do not give a rats ass about some 60s radical who is now a tenured college professor, and are more inclined to be pissed off at you for trying to distract them from the kitchen table issues they care most about.

Maybe you would be more effective if you can cite ONE policy initiative Obama has pursued in his 8 years as a state senator or 3 years as a US senator that Ayers influenced. If you can't make the connection between "association" and "policy", you are simply grasping at straws in a desperate attempt to change the subject from the economy when we al know that it will continue to dominate the headlines right through November 4th.

Rove is a "one-trick-pony", as the only tool he has in the election strategy toolbox is DIVIDE AND DISTRACT. This tool has become rather dull of late and simply doesn't work when voters are aware that you are trying to distract them rather than help them with their bread and butter kitchen table issues.

Posted by Metteyya at 10/08/2008 @ 1:27pm
Obama's ties to Ayers is not a problem of associating with terrorists but rather a group of people creating an organization that they could skim money from.

But ALL politicians do that! So what's the big fuss? Obama, McCain, Bush, Pelosi, Reid, and on and on are THEIVES! That's not a revelation by any measure.

You've got to be a CROOK to get to Washington and then you become a bigger CROOK!!

NADER/GONZALES '08

Posted by bleedingheart at 10/08/2008 @ 1:30pm
Mr. Berman, I think it's "racial epithet", not "racial epitaph", but (unlike a Republican) I could be wrong.

Posted by Be Good at 10/08/2008 @ 1:48pm
Posted by Be Good at 10/08/2008 @ 1:48pm

Actually, with independent voters, it COULD be McCain's "racial epitaph"!

heheh

Posted by Maskdelta at 10/08/2008 @ 1:53pm
>>>It's fascination, not fear.

Posted by Darin_the_Troll at 10/08/2008 @ 1:53pm<<<

It is NOT fascination, it is a desperate attempt to change the subject from the economy.

The economy subject won't change, DARIN, and will remain on the front page through November 4th. So if you guys are as smart as you pretend to be, you would try to explain why McCain thought the fundamentals of the economy were strong just 3 weeks ago, when they obviously are not?

Posted by Metteyya at 10/08/2008 @ 1:58pm
Coming to a neighborhood near you (hopefully, if you're a liberal) - Chinese Muslim terrorists released into the US by our courts!

Anger over Guantanamo Bay ruling Guantanamo Bay US military prison The 17 have been in Guantanamo Bay for nearly seven years

The White House has reacted angrily after a judge ordered that 17 Chinese Muslims held at Guantanamo Bay should be released into the United States.

District Judge Ricardo Urbina said the US could not hold the 17 as they were no longer considered enemy combatants.

The Uighurs were cleared for release in 2004 but the US says they may face persecution if returned to China.

The White House said the ruling could set a precedent that would allow "sworn enemies" to seek US entry.

The government says the 17 also pose a security risk if released into the US.

Lawyers for the Bush administration have argued that federal judges do not have authority to order the release into the US of Guantanamo detainees.

Analysts say the ruling is a rebuke for the US government and could set the stage for the release of dozens more detained at the military jail in Cuba.

'No risk'

Lawyers for the prisoners said it was the first time a federal court had ordered the release into the US of any Guantanamo prisoners.

Judge Urbina had presided over a hearing to consider appeals by the 17 who were seeking to be freed and allowed into the US.

They have been held at Guantanamo for nearly seven years.

The judge said there was no evidence that they were "enemy combatants" or a security risk.

Posted by pontificus at 10/08/2008 @ 2:01pm
"Liberals' attempts at social engineering always end in disaster. From a 70% illegitimacy rate in the black community, to multiple generations of poor people locked into government dependency, to an economic crisis caused by forcing Fannie and Freddie to give loans to people who had less than a 50% chance of repaying them, to liberals' attempts to use schools to replace God with the State."

~Darin the Droll Troll

Uh, Darin, you're all over the map dude.

Get a grip.

Define your terms.

Form a succinct argument.

Perhaps.......take your meds.

Posted by b_kool_66 at 10/08/2008 @ 2:03pm
Hey, so what if they were caught attending Bin Laden's training camp in Afghanistan! Doesn't mean they were learning anything! Maybe they were just sightseeing!

Posted by pontificus at 10/08/2008 @ 2:03pm
"Coming to a neighborhood near you (hopefully, if you're a liberal) - Chinese Muslim terrorists released into the US by our courts! "

~Pointy 'ficus

Coming to a neighborhood near all of us.......like, right NOW apparently:

Sheer lunacy.

Froth away, thou hounds of hell.

Posted by b_kool_66 at 10/08/2008 @ 2:06pm
darin-Liberals aren't responsible for others sexual behavior,for others choice to stay on welfare,nor has God been removed from public schools because God is wherever God chooses to be.

Posted by i'm nobody at 10/08/2008 @ 2:09pm
"As any virgin ever to be throwing into a volcano would tell you (if she weren't dead), some sacrifices aren't just pointless, they are harmful"

"to liberals' attempts to use schools to replace God with the State." Posted by Darin_the_Troll at 10/08/2008 @ 1:55pm

Guess why past human societies threw virgins into volcanoes (and various other ritualistic behaviors)? Hint: it has to do with a lack of separation between religious and political leadership.

Posted by Be Good at 10/08/2008 @ 2:09pm
"Hey, so what if they were caught attending Bin Laden's training camp in Afghanistan! Doesn't mean they were learning anything! Maybe they were just sightseeing!"

~Posted by 'Ficus

Here's some sobering sunlight for your rubber room, dickweed:

tinyurl.com/4x3dju

Excerpt:

Shortly after 9/11, the Pentagon ordered a top secret team of American commandos into Afghanistan with a single, simple order: kill Osama bin Laden. It was America's best chance to eliminate the leader of al Qaeda. The inside story of exactly what happened in that mission, and how close it came to its objective has never been told until now.

The man you are about to meet was the officer in command, leading a team from the U.S. Army's mysterious Delta Force - a unit so secret, it's often said Delta doesn't exist. But you are about to see Delta's operators in action.

Why would the mission commander break his silence after seven years? He told 60 Minutes correspondent Scott Pelley that most everything he has read in the media about his mission is wrong and now he wants to set the record straight.

End quote.

~As many have suspected, myself included, there is ample circumstantial evidence to suggest that bin Laden was not captured when the opportunity presented itself because the Bush administration saw him as more valuable alive.......and scaring the bejezuz out of ignorant Americans....like yourself, Pointy.

But watch the video, cheese-dick.

Posted by b_kool_66 at 10/08/2008 @ 2:15pm
"Spoiled rich kid of fantastically wealthy parents, goes on a killing spree and then dad buys his freedom and some university hires him."

Please do show me some proof that Ayers went on a "killing spree." In fact, the bomb planted at the Pentagon, which did not kill anybody as far as I can tell, did keep the Pentagon from doing some of its murdering in Vietnam...where John McCain had gone on a couple of killing sprees. Lucky too that he was only a POW--if one of the people who flew a jet into the World Trade Center towers ejected and landed alive, into how many pieces would he have been torn?

Posted by onthehelm at 10/08/2008 @ 2:16pm
....Lucky too that he was only a POW--if one of the people who flew a jet into the World Trade Center towers ejected and landed alive, into how many pieces would he have been torn?

~on the helm

And on point I might add.

Well done.

Posted by b_kool_66 at 10/08/2008 @ 2:23pm
No one,including republicans,care about the Obama Ayers thing,but know that they can't win on the issues and must say something.

Posted by i'm nobody at 10/08/2008 @ 2:29pm
Posted by PupDog

".....But Obama was a grown man when he decided his path to power lay through Bill Ayers' connections.

In the Chicago establishment, which embraced former terrorists like Ayers and his wife, Obama was encouraged to look beyond the obvious - the lawlessness, the attacks on cops, judges, army outposts - to embrace larger goals.

What were these goals?"

~Cue ominous music......

This is straight out of the Joseph Goebbels school of propaganda --and it's not a secondary school level of education we're talking about.

This shit is perfectly geared for the 5th grade mind.

But go ahead and slop it up, PupDog.

Jesus Christ, the nutjobs are in full force today. Somebody please issue McNasty his last rites and barbiturate cocktail. The old man is cashed. Dump the ashes and scrape the bowl. I'm thinkin' it's resin hit time.

Unbelievable.

Posted by b_kool_66 at 10/08/2008 @ 2:35pm
Palin describes herself as a pitbull with lipstick.The pitbull has the reputation of being a vicious animal that attacks without thought. That describes Palin perfectly.

Posted by i'm nobody at 10/08/2008 @ 2:44pm
BKOOL...atleast GUP is admitting that McCain/Palin is losing--

"If you are losing at least go down swinging."----Posted by GupDog at 10/08/2008 @ 2:33pm

Posted by Maskdelta at 10/08/2008 @ 2:54pm
McCain/Palin is losing--

Posted by Maskdelta at 10/08/2008 @ 2:54pm

egad!

they've melded!

Posted by frosty zoom at 10/08/2008 @ 3:01pm
a polka,

it's october!

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=22Tddbd6Kgg

"daddy's troubles"

Posted by frosty zoom at 10/08/2008 @ 3:06pm
an economic crisis caused by forcing Fannie and Freddie to give loans to people who had less than a 50% chance of repaying them

Posted by Derwood_the_Troll at 10/08/2008 @ 1:55pm

Corruption and mismanagement at Fannie/Freddie was originally the right's bugaboo for the sub-prime mortgage crisis, and now the standard talking point has morphed to include blaming the entire economic crisis on the Community Reinvestment Act 'forcing' Fannie/Freddie to loan money to people who would never be able to repay it (wingnut code for shiftless poor colored folk in inner-city neighborhoods).

This argument has been thoroughly debunked in numerous places, often using actual statistics. Here are a few good examples: http://tinyurl.com/3nap66 http://tinyurl.com/3sjcfj

As he did in the debate again last night, John 'my friend' McCain is also fond of blaming the current crisis on 'greed on Wall Street'. Well, duuuuuh!

Is he proposing that we eliminate the deadly sin of avarice as the solution to the economic crisis? While he's at it maybe he can tackle sloth and gluttony as the core of his health care package.

Posted by warn_this_person at 10/08/2008 @ 3:08pm
"If you are losing at least go down swinging."----Posted by GupDog at 10/08/2008 @ 2:33pm

i keep hitting "refresh" on 538.com and i tell you,

obama's numbers are rising faster than the price of pasta!

take heart, gupppster, october's a long month...

Posted by frosty zoom at 10/08/2008 @ 3:08pm
BKOOL...atleast GUP is admitting that McCain/Palin is losing--

~Maskot

Yes. A fact that is inescapable at this point.

And it quite obviously is having a destabilizing effect on the addled minds of many haters here today. I suppose it must be a painful experience to watch your beloved hero slip past the event horizon.

By November 4th McNasty's doomed starship will be beaming its final forlorn X-ray shrieks as it gets spaghettified into oblivion.

Bon voyage, McNasty --and your little wench too.

Posted by b_kool_66 at 10/08/2008 @ 3:11pm
"Is he proposing that we eliminate the deadly sin of avarice as the solution to the economic crisis? While he's at it maybe he can tackle sloth and gluttony as the core of his health care package."

~"Warn"er

Nice.

:D

Posted by b_kool_66 at 10/08/2008 @ 3:15pm
"Perhaps you wouldn't know a fundamentally sound economy if it bit you in the ass."

~Darin the Increasingly Unstable Troll

Speaking of "fundamentally sound".

Does anyone here know where Darin lives?

I fear for his family's safety.

Posted by b_kool_66 at 10/08/2008 @ 3:18pm
Is he proposing that we eliminate the deadly sin of avarice as the solution to the economic crisis? While he's at it maybe he can tackle sloth and gluttony as the core of his health care package.

Posted by warn_this_person at 10/08/2008 @ 3:08pm

Very funny. My mom(a devout catholic) is gonna love that line.

Posted by k330k at 10/08/2008 @ 3:22pm
"daddy's troubles"

Indeed.

Enjoyed that one, Frost. Even though I mostly detest polka music.

Hello, K330.

:-)

Posted by b_kool_66 at 10/08/2008 @ 3:26pm
Yes. A fact that is inescapable at this point. Posted by b_kool_66 at 10/08/2008 @ 3:11pm

If we've learned anything during the past 8 years, it's that there are people for whom no facts are inescapable. Diehard conservatives will always try to escape the facts. When facts contradict their preconceptions, they question facts, not their beliefs. Thankfully, membership in the reality-based community appears to be growing this year!

Posted by Be Good at 10/08/2008 @ 3:30pm
"Geriatric John" will win the 2008 election the same way Junior won in 2000, thru massive vote fraud and purging of the rolls.

Anyone been prosecuted for that monkey business in Florida in 2000 and Ohio in 2004?

Nope.

The RNC vote theft machine is alive and well and working feverishly to steal another election.

Voters in N. Mexico, Pennsylvania and Colorado are being purged and one guess as to what color they are.

Insane McCain will stumble into the WH along with his favorite pooch, that bitchy pit bull.

Already we're being told by pundits like David Gergen that the polls won't matter, since people will say one thing then, when they get in the voter's booth, practice racism and not vote for Obama.

Get ready for a shock on November 5, unless a bunch of lazy ass Americans get off their fat asses and we swarm the polls on November 4.

Posted by Greg Bacon at 10/08/2008 @ 3:30pm
"Does anyone here know where Darin lives?"

~BK

"Charlotte NC."

~Darin

Excellent. I know the new police chief, I'll get him crackin' ASAP.

Never fear, Darin's family, I'm here to help.

Posted by b_kool_66 at 10/08/2008 @ 3:33pm
Trollholes reading of the financial crisis___

"More lies from the liberal media"

Posted by Sorelish at 10/08/2008 @ 3:33pm
STRAVINSKY!

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=BnMkb9sWrf0

Posted by frosty zoom at 10/08/2008 @ 3:35pm
Fundamentals of the Economy:

Unemployment ~6% (I've seen >10%)

•• maybe. but working at walmart doesn't offer as much as working at maytag.

Inflation ~2% (I've seen >10%)

•• that's because it's been hidden on the backs and lungs of the chinese. imagine what madeinusa would cost now.

but, all those dollars going to china.....

Interest rates ~5% (I've seen > 15%)

•• of course, lubricate the economy with CREDIT! especially with an election coming. wouldn't want it to collapse until january.

Growth in GDP Q2 ~1% (I've seen < -3% prolonged)

•• housing prices, perhaps.....

Debt as a % of GDP ~ 65% (many countries > 150%)

•• yeah, and look at what their banking systems are going through....

Interest service as % of budget ~8%

•• my head hurts

Exchange rate dollar to Euro .7369 (I've seen .6239)

•• 156,54543,7856,,997 wrongs don't make a right.

Perhaps you wouldn't know a fundamentally sound economy if it bit you in the ass.

•• perhaps you should donate to the local food bank.

Posted by Darin_the_Troll at 10/08/2008

Posted by frosty zoom at 10/08/2008 @ 3:41pm
STRAVINSKY!

~fz

Ah Yes. Zappa's muse.

That, I can dig.

Music hath charms to sooth the savage beast....er....breast.

A round of therapy for the nutjobs courtesy of frosty.

I raise my frosted mug......

Here, Here!

Posted by b_kool_66 at 10/08/2008 @ 3:48pm
there, there?

⨀ + ⨀

Posted by frosty zoom at 10/08/2008 @ 3:52pm
Never fear, Darin's family, I'm here to help.

Posted by b_kool_66 at 10/08/2008 @ 3:33pm

Hello b_kool! You hero, you.

Posted by k330k at 10/08/2008 @ 4:01pm
Hmmmmmm......let me see.....

Yes....

"There, there......"

tinyurl.com/4jfhqk

(To be played at maximum volume)

According to the director, the video's claustrophobic, fun-house mirror atmosphere speaks to the song's main theme: "Beware the dangers of believing in illusions, no matter how tantalizing they may appear or how heady the heat of introduction may be".

Posted by b_kool_66 at 10/08/2008 @ 4:03pm
Posted by Darin_the_Troll at 10/08/2008 @ 3:36pm

This from the same state that 86'd Mark Twain for writing, "There are 2 churches & 67 saloons in Virginia City. Just about the right proportion".

Posted by Sorelish at 10/08/2008 @ 4:05pm
Posted by Darin_the_Troll at 10/08/2008 @ 3:14pm

Maybe McCain should use your "fundamentals of the economy are strong" in a campaign ad in Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and North Carolina?

I don't think the voters in these "swing states" would agree with your economic assessment and would probably think McCain has lost his marbles.

With advisers like you, McCain can not help but lose!

Posted by Metteyya at 10/08/2008 @ 4:06pm
Like OJ, who got away with murder, Ayers got away with it.

Or Bill Ayers. Spoiled rich kid of fantastically wealthy parents, goes on a killing spree Posted by Darin_the_Troll

Hey Troll who did Ayers kill on his killin spree. Or the Weather Underground as a whole? Answer: Themselves. When three of them died making a bomb.

Check your facts. I know that is difficult when you live under a bridge, but try.

Posted by chaoszen at 10/08/2008 @ 4:07pm
Hello b_kool! You hero, you.

~k330k

Awwww

It was nuthin'.........shucks.........

We all do what we can I believe.

How bout them Saints the other night?

It was an exciting game tho' I badly wanted the Aints to pull it out.

A blown opportunity in a game that was theirs for the taking.

Oh well.

:-(

Posted by b_kool_66 at 10/08/2008 @ 4:08pm
Posted by Darin_the_Troll at 10/08/2008 @ 3:14pm

I also wonder what Americans who have their 401k in the stock market think of your economic assessment?

How much wealth do they have to lose before McCain gets a clue?

Posted by Metteyya at 10/08/2008 @ 4:09pm
Stravinsky met Erik Satie.. and liked him! Satie, that hatchet carrying, suburb walking, SRO dwelling prince! Music hall playing..too.

Posted by Sorelish at 10/08/2008 @ 4:14pm
justcourious I am sorry, What did Palin say about the crowds reaction? I am sorry, what did the patriot act say about insighting a riot?

Posted by justcourious at 10/08/2008 @ 4:30pm
darin-Ayers isn't running for anything,but if he does then I will not vote for him..

Posted by i'm nobody at 10/08/2008 @ 4:39pm
"Well, Ayer's intentions were murder. That's the only thing that matters in my book."

~Mack the Knife.....er......Darin the Troll

Yeah, that's why attempted murder always gets a life sentence.

Smooth............real smooth......" Mr. attorney".

Posted by b_kool_66 at 10/08/2008 @ 4:41pm
Posted by b_kool_66 at 10/08/2008 @ 3:11pm

I love a good black hole analogy!

Posted by Maskdelta at 10/08/2008 @ 4:41pm
I heard today at the Obama headquarters here that the person who made the >"Kill Him" comment is being tracked by the FBI. I do think Palin should personally be arrested for intent to incite. Where is security? Those rallies should be shut down. People are outraged.

Posted by mcteach at 10/08/2008 @ 4:42pm
BTW, the reason Darin is getting a little....un-easy...shall we say is simple--

Real Clear Politics Polls---North Carolina

RCP Average 09/27 - 10/06 -- 47.6 48.2

Obama +0.6

BTW, Darin, up 321N from Gastonia to I-40, then 20 miles west to Morganton...

Broughton Hospital! I'll get ya a reservation for November 5th!

heheh

Posted by Maskdelta at 10/08/2008 @ 4:44pm
Palin is nothing more than a hate monger who is trying to incite violence and McCain would do well to be rid of her in favor of a Christian,like Huckabee.

Posted by i'm nobody at 10/08/2008 @ 4:46pm
"I love a good black hole analogy!"

~Maskot

Why, thanks.

McCain DOES kinda look like he's been on a bit too lengthy interstellar journey, doesn't he?

Kinda reminds me of the one who didn't survive the journey in the first Planet of the Apes flick because their life support apparently malfunctioned while in a slowed metabolism hibernation state.

Remember "that one"?

Posted by b_kool_66 at 10/08/2008 @ 4:50pm
Laying hands on Palin to protect her from witchcraft failed because she is the witch..

Posted by i'm nobody at 10/08/2008 @ 4:51pm
darin-Palin is running for VP.Ayers isn't running for anything or doing anything.Got a relevant response?

Posted by i'm nobody at 10/08/2008 @ 4:55pm
Posted by b_kool_66 at 10/08/2008 @ 4:50pm

Yes, but that was a female!

But...hey....didn't "Nova" look like...

Sarah Palin?!?!???!? And McCain does kind of talk like Heston a little bit.

Election Night, Obama wins EC, and McCain gets down on his knees, looks up at the Big Screen TV, and scream....

"YOU MANIACS! OHHH, DAMN YOU! GOD DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!!!!"???

Posted by Maskdelta at 10/08/2008 @ 4:56pm
They did fail miserably in their goals to kill innocent people, Well, Ayer's intentions were murder. That's the only thing that matters in my bood.

Posted by Darin_the_Troll at 10/08/2008 @ 4:36pm |

Yeah like when they blew up the Haymarket statue twice. They must have forgotten to take that statue cops pulse first to make sure it was alive before they "killed it."

Posted by chaoszen at 10/08/2008 @ 4:56pm
Got a relevant response?----Posted by i'm nobody at 10/08/2008 @ 4:55pm

No, I'M....it's merely what Darin is hearing over and over and over, on WBT-AM from Glenn Beck, Rush, and Sean the Boy Blunder.

Posted by Maskdelta at 10/08/2008 @ 4:58pm
Mask-What is funny is that Darin knows nothing about Ayers,obviously,and,like you said,is just repeating what he is supposed to repeat.

Posted by i'm nobody at 10/08/2008 @ 5:00pm
justcourious: I know it'a little --off-- subject; but, if anyone out tthere gets a chance, ask John McCain"Mc Shame" what happens when a pilot "wet starts" a plane on the flightdek of a carrier? I only hope I get to see his response on youtube some day. I had an uncle who will never get that chance.

Posted by justcourious at 10/08/2008 @ 5:02pm
"YOU MANIACS! OHHH, DAMN YOU! GOD DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!!!!"

Well done, Maskot.

And at least we won't be saying, "You really did it, you blew it all up......"

Or at least that time has been delayed with the ignominious defeat of Senator Hothead.

Posted by b_kool_66 at 10/08/2008 @ 5:08pm
just repeating what he is supposed to repeat. Posted by i'm nobody at 10/08/2008 @ 5:00pm

Yeah there are about 1/3 of people in the world with no ability to think for themselves. They need other people to do the thinking for them.

It's bad news for the other 2/3's, as it's those very people that are targeted by the koolaid dispensers.

Posted by chaoszen at 10/08/2008 @ 5:09pm
chaoszen-Thinking for themselves gives that bunch a headache.

Posted by i'm nobody at 10/08/2008 @ 5:11pm
Im sorry but the quote "wet starts" make my mind wander to other things..

Im such a filthy animal.

Posted by chaoszen at 10/08/2008 @ 5:13pm
There is a very real possibility that I pay the highest percentage of income in taxes than anybody else on this site (including KVH who pays mostly capital gains when her tax lawyers can avoid taxes all together....

Posted by Darin_the_Troll at 10/08/2008 @ 1:56pm | ignore this person | warn this person

That must mean you are salaried or by the hour employee subject to withholding and making less than $75,000 a year, and have few itemized deductions (no monster home that you can not afford but get to deduct the interest....speaking of tax code support for inflated real estate values). Obama pledges not to raise your taxes....you are already getting screwed enough compared to what the wealthy pay. Welcome.

Posted by OneVote at 10/08/2008 @ 5:24pm
Posted by b_kool_66 at 10/08/2008 @ 4:08pm

I saw the 'Aints play. Strange game. They gave the Vikes the win. Although as a fan of the Falcons, I was happy that they lost(division rivals and all). I can't believe they're below .500. It's still early in the season. They have time to rebound(hopefully not).:)

Posted by k330k at 10/08/2008 @ 5:26pm
Posted by OneVote at 10/08/2008 @ 5:24pm

Great response. Wish I could do that more often.

Posted by chaoszen at 10/08/2008 @ 5:31pm
Posted by OneVote at 10/08/2008 @ 5:24pm

Hey! I'm in that club too. Welcome, Darin.

Posted by k330k at 10/08/2008 @ 5:31pm
Posted by Darin_the_Troll at 10/08/2008 @ 5:32pm

Guess that put him over the edge. Now he has to break out the BIG pencil..

Posted by chaoszen at 10/08/2008 @ 5:35pm
I was born in late '65 so I don't remember this stuff, but I've enjoyed reading about it. Posted by Darin_the_Troll at 10/08/2008 @ 5:28pm

I was born in 1953. I lived it.

That sounds a bit pompous. Oh well.

Posted by chaoszen at 10/08/2008 @ 5:40pm
Sounds like you need a tax increase, Bobby.....I mean, Darin.

And you'll feel existentially better knowing that you're contributing to the causes that you so dearly support.

Like the war, and our oh so reassuring offense....I mean....defense budget.

I'll put in a word for you with the powers that be.

Thank me later.

;-D

Posted by b_kool_66 at 10/08/2008 @ 5:59pm
well, apparantly mccain was associated with an organization that goes by the name "world anti-communist league".

apparantly this organization consisted of an alliance from hell of anti-semites, latin american death squads, former nazis and newer neo-nazis...

you know - the typical rabid anti commie types (fascists)...

and mccain was on the board of directors of this extremely sketchy, anti-democratic, friend of rightwing terrorists, and even former nazis...

they say when you start bandying about aspersions of naziism you lose the argument...but what if its true? do you still not say it?

hmmm...sounds like mr. mccain might be a friend of terrorists...

Posted by dexter666 at 10/08/2008 @ 6:09pm
330k,

You gotta be happy with your Falcons. I don't believe anyone had them playing as well as they have this year. Turner tore up the Lions awhile back, and your birds look like they have a decent shot at the post season.

I like the NFC South as a whole --tough conference this year. Carolina is the team I think I like the most there. Always liked Delhomme and Steve "mighty mite" Smith. And they play disciplined D which is always a big plus for me in picking teams I like.

Ever go to the games at the Georgia Dome?

Nothing like being there live. Rowdiest crowds usually pack the cheap seats near the end zones. Fun to watch the beer saturated madness --it's that way at Lions games anyway.

Now you know why I like to watch other teams around the "niffle".

:D

Posted by b_kool_66 at 10/08/2008 @ 6:15pm
JOHN McCAIN SERVED ON THE BOARD OF AN ORGANIZATION WHOSE RANKS WERE RIDDLED WITH RACISTS, ANTI-SEMITES, NAZIS, DEATH SQUADS AND THOSE WHO SUPPORTED THEM!!!

world anti-communist league!!!

those who live in glass houses...

and hell - flippy mac was actually on the board of directors of this EXTREMELY SKETCHY, TERRORIST RIDDEN GROUP!!!!

Posted by dexter666 at 10/08/2008 @ 6:23pm
Posted by Darin_the_Troll at 10/08/2008 @ 5:54pm

What was that nonsense? Couldn't make heads or tails of it..

Why didn't you just list your total gross income. Total deductions. Your total net income and percent of tax paid?

Instead of all that gob?

Posted by chaoszen at 10/08/2008 @ 6:26pm
I made about $52,000 last year and netted about 35,000. Simple as that. So the system got about 32% of my income.

For that 32% all im asking for at the moment is Universal Healthcare to bring my bottom line up a little.

Posted by chaoszen at 10/08/2008 @ 6:37pm
Remember about living in a glass house and throwing those stones. After 26 years, mouthfuls of deregulation legislation, and gee I dunno much about economics, McShame should be very afraid - cause he's the wabbit!

Posted by Spiritgirl2 at 10/08/2008 @ 6:44pm
McShame should be very afraid - cause he's the wabbit!

~Spiritgirl

Perhaps, but he kinda looks like a really old Elmer.

tinyurl.com/4g7jbc

An all time Warner Bros classic.

Enjoy!

Posted by b_kool_66 at 10/08/2008 @ 7:01pm
No troll here, but someone above stated the Weather Underground didn't kill anyone other than their own members...

It's true that some WU members died when a bomb went off accidentally...but you forget David Gilbert, a WU member doing life for the murder of two police officers and a Brinks guard during an armored car heist with the Black Panthers.

I do not know Ayers status at that time, but at least three non-WU people died. Ayers has never been charged with any of this, though under today's conspiracy laws, he almost certainly would be.

To me, BHO's association with former WU people is a good thing, because it shows he may understand the very real fascism that has arisen, despite his pathetic caving on wiretap immunity, etc.

BHO is least-worst yet again. But you do damage to his campaign by blithely stating that the WU killed no one other than their own members. Any schmuck on the series of tubes can check this out on the Googles, eh?

Posted by thepuffin at 10/08/2008 @ 8:33pm
I know such characters, this conniving bitch enjoys inciting hatred and enjoys secretly the power she has over men!

At this age of over 40 they play this game secretly to reinsure themselves their charm which they translate it as sex appeal over men. Sorry, they have no conscience against their bitchy ego!! Beware folks!! She is very dangerous to give Dick Cheney a complex.

Posted by aleemsyed at 10/08/2008 @ 9:00pm
Oh no, no, no...McCain is actually Gollum from the Lord of the Rings...

http://tinyurl.com/4don5k

(hang in till about 2 1/2 minutes in)

Posted by Lillian at 10/08/2008 @ 9:15pm
With the unfair tax burden on those who are smarter, harder working, braver, more attractive, and completely naturally, as a divinely intended and only proper extension RICHER, you'd think Cindy would publish her tax return.

Ahhh the fount of all the ingenuity and jobs for the lower turd classes -- the true Americans, true patriots, the RICH

Posted by winyahn at 10/08/2008 @ 9:57pm
Desperate times call for desperate measures - that's the true campaign slogan for McCain. The rallies emceed by Palin sound more and more like the Nazi rallies of the late 30s - or the Hamas/Hezbollah rallies against Israel. Truly amazing how quickly the hatred in this country rises to the surface - and democratic rule degenerates into mob rule. What should I expect from a McCain Palin administration ? reeducation camps? Forced Work camps in Idaho (maybe Brokaw can come and talk about how all those workers are benefiting from the fresh air)? Lynchings in the South? Separate but equal education based on politico-religious status? Will my neighbors come banging on my door with torches demanding I renounce my association with anyone they have deemed unAmerican? The America that has surged through the McCain Palin rallies is not the America I know and love - I believe Thomas Jefferson would have fled to France if he knew what had happened to the Republic he helped found.

Posted by Greytdog at 10/08/2008 @ 10:22pm
Ayers committed this act 40 years ago. He has redeemed himself. If you can't be forgiven in America where can you get a second chance? Palin is a christian I am sure she understand this.

Posted by Barbara2423 at 10/08/2008 @ 10:39pm
Funny you should mention that. October is one of the worst months for Charlotte's emergency food shelters and this Sunday we will be bringing a few bags of non-perishable food stuffs to church.

Posted by Darin_the_Troll at 10/08/2008

excellent.

look for old stock clearance of canned vegetables as the newest harvest is arriving and stores want to CLEAR OUT!

thank you.

NOW,

ADDRESS MY OTHER POINTS

if you could be so kind :=¡

Posted by frosty zoom at 10/08/2008 @ 11:07pm
I love a good black hole analogy!

Posted by Maskdelta at 10/08/2008 @ 4:41pm

i think they suck.

Posted by frosty zoom at 10/08/2008 @ 11:08pm
How much wealth do they have to lose before McCain gets a clue?

Posted by Metteyya at 10/08/2008 @ 4:09pm

what wealth?

they're digits in computers.

Posted by frosty zoom at 10/08/2008 @ 11:39pm
"Murtagh believes the relationship between the Obamas, Ayers and Dohrn goes back 30 years, to Michelle Obama's time at Sidley Austin, a law firm that also employed Dohrn."

GupDog, that's absurd.

30 years ago, Michele O was in her early teens.

She's very bright, but she didn't graduate from Harvard Law in her early teens, nor from Princeton when she was 10 or 11.

Murtagh is bullshit, like his enabler Fox.

These dumb attacks lead to nowhere but a deeper defeat for the GOP, McCain's "fellow prisoners."

This time, no election theft, but unavoidable real issues that can't be hidden.

The whole world is watching.

Posted by sloper at 10/09/2008 @ 01:45am
In the eye's of America's Conservative plurality, it will make Obama illegitamate just like a Presidential candiate who claimed that he "loathed" the military was illegitamate.

Posted by Darin_the_Troll at 10/08/2008 @ 1:16pm

What conservative plurality (other than the on one your fertile imagination) would that be, Darin? First of all, oh ill-informed one, the only illegitimate occupant of the White House since Hayes left in 1881 has been your Dear Leader Bush - you know, the one your SCOTUS installed in a bloodless coup. Governor Bush, who never won a presidential election. Oh, and Darin, you conservatives may think of yourselves as royalty, but you don't get to confer legitimacy on anyone, pal.

Posted by jmusolino at 10/09/2008 @ 02:05am
No disrespect, but it almost looks like some of those posting here haven't bothered to read and familiarize themselves with what's been reported here previously and detailing the "relationship" between Obama and Ayres. More precisely, Mr Berman's report of May 1, 2008 addresses this rather plainly.

Not surprisingly, NO ONE who has suggested that these matters serve to legitimately call Obama's judgment or character into question have done so while detailing those matters set forth in Mr. Berman's earlier article. That's understandable, since those details render the innuendo offered (as well as the notion that he somehow tried to "hide" either a publicly reported contribution of $200 or his membership on the board of a charitable organization) facially ludicrous.

These are the politics of smear, and anyone who watched Sean Hannity's "interview" of (or, more accurately, infomercial with) McCain and Palin tonight, regurgitating this bile, should know two things, if they didn't already. First, that Hannity's claims to be a "journalist" are laughable. Second, that McCain has long since abandoned the "Straight-talk Express" in favor of any mouthful of slime that he considers helpful.

"Presidential"? You gotta be kidding; Ive seen more dignity in televangelists.

Posted by lawmax at 10/09/2008 @ 02:12am
Again, I find a lot of the sixties stuff truly fascinating. Start with the Black Panthers, the SLA (who's seven "commandments" are the same quasi-marxist gibberish as the seven tennent of Kwanza), the weather underground, and Jim Jones' suicide cult. I've read about Arlen Specter's involvement in getting Ira Einhorn released on bail in the murder of Holly Maddux, the riots at the '68 Dem convention, and stonewall riots. I was born in late '65 so I don't remember this stuff, but I've enjoyed reading about it.

Posted by Darin_the_Troll at 10/08/2008 @ 5:28pm

If you've done any rudimentary objective reading, you'll know that there's absolutely no relation whatever between the weather underground ('60s) and the SLA (mid-'70s, along,by the way, with Jim Jones). The weather underground came out of a split in SDS. The Panthers were another organization altogether. And none of them came close to the level of violence unleashed on the Vietnamese and Cambodians, as well as the Chileans, by Nixon and Kissinger. In fact, those two so utterly destabilized the Cambodian regime that Pol Pot was able to seize power and kill a couple million additional Cambodians. They enables Pinochet's reign of terror in Chile, with the attendant thousands of deaths there. And I do remember this stuff, Darin. And if you want to talk Ayers, let's talk McCain palling around with David Ifshin of Radio Hanoi fame. Or Palin sleeping with a member of AIP. You people really should try to avoid guilt by association, Darin, because your side can't stand up to that type of scrutiny.

Posted by jmusolino at 10/09/2008 @ 02:14am
Final Tax Rate **18.43%*****20.03%

Posted by Darin_the_Troll at 10/09/2008 @ 08:25am

wonderful.

now,

i tell you the economy is fundamentally messed up!

what say you?

Posted by frosty zoom at 10/08/2008 @ 3:41pm

Posted by frosty zoom at 10/09/2008 @ 08:31am
bok bok bok bockaw!!!

Posted by frosty zoom at 10/09/2008 @ 08:31am
BTW, Darin...as a pragmatic conservative, I'm sure you like to think you would use stuff that WORKS, and not just any ol' thing that Rush and Sean tell you to try, right?

check out "Ayers Attacks" on

http://www.mediacurves.com/Politics/J7042-Palin-on-Bill-Ayers/

While hitting Obama some, it's also backfiring and hurting McCain as well.

Given Obama's lead, that's a net loss for McCain!

Posted by Maskdelta at 10/09/2008 @ 09:06am
McCain has closer ties to Ayers than Obama. First of all, McCain was already an old man when Ayers was putting his attack plans together. Then, McCain served on the same board of directors of the Annenberg organization that, much later, so did Obama.

McCain, fess up - you have been working with a known terrorist! Also, how about McCain in the Iran/Contra plan. This creep hopes that people don't concentrate on his consorting with enemies to America. What a hypocrite!

Posted by pacrat at 10/09/2008 @ 09:45am
Obama may be another Carter, because he will inherit the economic policies of republicans.

Unlike Bush, who inherited a good economy and a good reputation worldwide, and squandered it all.

But, the neo-con sheep will blame Obama for the failures of Bush, his minions and his flock of scared voters; bent on keeping gays from being in happy unions, while the cronies of Bush destroyed the economy while getting theirs.

Posted by crabwalk at 10/09/2008 @ 09:57am
Think about it Darin and other neo-cons...

while you anti-freedom folks were out casting ballots to keep gay and lesbian couples apart, regardless of how good their relationships may be, the men behind the curtain were robbing the treasury blind.

But that's OK, because you kept them damn faggots in their place!!

but did you save one single hetero marriage with the Defense of Marriage Act signed by the "liberal" Clinton?

Posted by crabwalk at 10/09/2008 @ 10:47am
It's about voter turnout now: We're all looking at (and talking about) the polls. But it is increasingly becoming about turnout. In 2004, the turnout push in Ohio during the last 72 hours of the campaign swung the entire election. In this cycle, voting has already begun in a bunch of states including Ohio. Energizing the base, aka McCain's smear campaign, is about turning out the vote NOW. Everyone who gets scared and votes today is "in the bank." Now those early voters remain in the pool of voters who are contacted in the polls. They constitute a small but rapidly increasing percentage. As their numbers grow, so too does the problem in interpreting the meaning of the polls. Early voters can still "change their minds" on polling questions, but their vote is fixed. They also effect the exit polling we will see on election night, since they will be outside the voter pool which is "polled" leaving their polling place. The important piece of this for now is that the polls we see today are becoming more prone to significant errors because McCain's campaign is likely amplifying the turnout of his base. Don Pittsburgh, PA

Posted by DonKrieger at 10/09/2008 @ 1:46pm
I pray McClown don't get the job.

Posted by moguts at 10/09/2008 @ 1:54pm
McCain stated in his book that his highest aspirations have always been to be President. It seems like he will do anything to reach his goal. As he himself said in 2000, after being beaten down by attacks on his own character, any one choosing to run a campaign like that, doesn't have much substance in their own campaign.

Posted by ancientgirl at 10/09/2008 @ 4:22pm
Obama's a muslim, a rad or even a socialist? So what. If the people (majority of them) want that, then let it be. They wanted Dubya a far right man and what they got? Now they want a far left, so be it.

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McCain again raises Obama's ties with 1970s radical By Matt Spetalnick Thu Oct 9, 6:18 PM ET

WAUKESHA, Wisconsin (Reuters) - Down in opinion polls, Republican presidential nominee John McCain pressed his effort to raise doubts about Barack Obama's character on Thursday with a fresh attack on his Democratic rival's contacts with a former left-wing radical who became a college professor.

Posted by HelenDAO at 10/09/2008 @ 11:40pm
This McCain/Palin rallies are a bunch of leeches, they are getting frightening, they remind me of a leashing mod ready to hang, and that scares me they are racism and putting lives not only of Obama in danger but other people. I couldn't believe the news thank God this was shown, the calling of treason and kill him they are inciting a race riot, and what was Palin respond Boy you got it. This is shameful, but the people should read the McCain Campaign Palling Around with Terrorists in Huffington Post by Robert Lovato on 10/9/08, I have no respect for either McCain/Palin shame on you how low can you go.

Posted by luci at 10/10/2008 @ 03:24am
"Less famously, Roosevelt declared in his acceptance speech that "this is no time for fear, for reaction or for timidity."

"In recent days, Obama has painted himself as calm, pragmatic, open and hopeful. He seemed to be channeling FDR when he told a crowd in Indianapolis on Wednesday: "This isn't a time for fear or for panic. "

Uh oh. Watch next for attack ads charging plagiarism. ;-)

Posted by MemeLynne at 10/10/2008 @ 2:38pm

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