The Witch Hunter Anoints Sarah Palin

posted by Max Blumenthal on 09/24/2008 @ 05:16am

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On September 20 and 21, I attended services at the church Sarah Palin belonged to since she was an adolescent, the Wasilla Assembly of God. Though Palin officially left the church in 2002, she is listed on its website as "a friend," and spoke there as recently as June 8 of this year.

I went specifically to see a pastor visiting from Kiambu, Kenya named Thomas Muthee. Muthee gained fame within Pentecostal circles by claiming that he defeated a local witch, Mama Jane, in a great spiritual battle, thus liberating his town from sin and opening its people to the spirit of Jesus.

Muthee's mounting stardom took him to Wasilla Assembly of God in May, 2005, where he prayed over Palin and called upon Jesus to propel her into the governor's mansion -- and beyond. Muthee also implored Jesus to protect Palin from "the spirit of witchcraft." The video archive of that startling sermon was scrubbed from Wasilla Assembly of God's website, but now it has reappeared.

The Youtube version is below (Palin appears after about 7:30):

Since Palin was nominated as vice president, Wasilla Assembly of God has taken a draconian line with reporters. The church now forbids members of the media from filming, taking notes, or bringing voice recorders to its services. I was able to record Muthee's recent sermons only by deploying an array of tiny cameras and hidden microphones. Though the quality and comprehensiveness of my footage was severely compromised by the church's closed door policy to the press, I was not going to be deterred.

By the end of the second day of Muthee's sermons, the church had been tipped off about me, the liberal media member in its midst. An associate pastor told me he had received an email from an anonymous source warning him about me. When I tried to interview members of the congregation in the church parking lot, my questions were either met with silence or open hostility. I strongly suspect the McCain campaign has mobilized the Wasilla Assembly of God against perceived threats from the media.

But they hardly needed encouragement. On the first night of services, Muthee implored his audience to wage "spiritual warfare" against "the enemy." As I filmed, a nervous church staffer approached from behind and told me to put my camera away. I acceded to his demand, but as Muthee urged the church to crush "the python spirit" of the unbeliever enemies by stomping on their necks, I pulled out a smaller camera and filmed from a more discreet position. Now, church members were in deep prayer, speaking in tongues and raising their hands. Muthee exclaimed, "We come against the spirit of witchcraft! We come against the python spirits!" Then, a local pastor took the mic from Muthee and added, "We stomp on the heads of the enemy!"

Behind the Christian right's enthusiasm for Palin's conservative credentials is a visceral sense that that she has come from them, not to them. Some right-wing evangelicals even believe she has messianic potential. As former Christian Broadcasting Network vice president Jim Bramlett wrote, "Sarah is that standard God has raised up to stop the flood. She has the anointing."

The Christian right's analysis is accurate to a certain degree. While Palin may not be The One, she is certainly one of them. Her social policy views, from her rejection of scientific evidence on global warming to her opposition to publicly funding emergency contraception for rape victims, are explicitly influenced by the sectarian theology she has subscribed to since she was a teenager. There is no better evidence of the depth of Palin's radical convictions than her startling encounter with the witch-hunter, Bishop Muthee.

Next week, I will post an exclusive video documentary here that will shed further light on Palin's relationship with Muthee and the religious right in Alaska. Stay tuned.

Comments (116)

It's no hype to call this video encounter startling, between a witch exorcist & the divine Sarah.

But it's probably far too demanding & unreasonable to expect the MSM to cover it for a second.

Perhaps Bill Maher will give it a shot.

Meanwhile, thanks, Max, this is truly a great holy shit story. Really looking forward to the doc next week.

Posted by sloper at 09/24/2008 @ 05:55am
Well, according to the Right....

this is fair game.

Of course, also according to them...

this is "COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from the Rev. Wright thing....COMPLETELY!"

LOL

Posted by Maskdelta at 09/24/2008 @ 07:11am
So Thats where Ponti's Witchhunters went.

----

"Mainstream Sarah"? These whack jobs expect the rest of us to take them seriously?

What do we use to burn witches?

MORE WITCHES!!

(She is going to turn Biden into a newt. He'll get better)

Posted by crabwalk at 09/24/2008 @ 07:26am
The Good Preacher had better get to the next RNC gathering so that he can exorcise the poor sheep from their spell of enchantment cast by Palin Herself. As with many right wing Plans, Muthee's appears to have backfired.

I got a Black Magic Woman.

I got a Black Magic Woman.

Yes, I got a Black Magic Woman,

She's got me so blind I can't see;

But she's a Black Magic Woman and

she's trying to make a devil out of me.

(careful cons, she might wake up your magic sticks. oooohh, too late!)

http://onemansblog.com/wp-content/

uploads/2008/08/sarah-palin-hottie.jpg

Posted by crabwalk at 09/24/2008 @ 07:35am
I think Curveball supplied the pic. It's authenticity is "well documented"

Posted by crabwalk at 09/24/2008 @ 07:41am
"Vogue" Magazine, The governor issue.

"Sarah, Supermodel Tour-de-Force"

Republicans the week before St Paul- "We don't want no cee-leb-ritees in the White House."

Is there any tenant of theirs that they have not flip flopped on in the last 4 weeks? I guess it is still OK to go out and smear other Christians and people that actually raised themselves by the bootstraps, along with veterans. That they are firmly committed to.

Posted by crabwalk at 09/24/2008 @ 07:49am
I can't wait to hear Liver, Ponti, JM, Happy, MBB and company defend this stuff. Then again, since this stock market business, we haven't heard a lof from happy as of late have we. Maybe he's not so "happy" anymore.

Posted by Wolfgang1 at 09/24/2008 @ 07:51am
Please send this to your friends and family!

RFK, Jr.: "Let me tell you about one other of these scams people should know about. If you're a newly registered voter - and of course the Democrats have done these gigantic registration drives - 12 million people on registration - if you're a new voter you MUST include your license or some other state I.D. when you come to vote. What that means is that if you're a college kid (and college kids now - they're sending in absentee ballots - they're not going to the voting place, they do everything online or they do everything remotely - they don't dream of going to the precinct house voting on election day and waiting in a long line) so if they send in the absentee ballot and they don't include a color copy of their license their vote is going to be thrown into a trash can. And none of these people know this because you have had to read the law in order to know it. So there is no notification for when you fill out your registration form, so all of those 12 million people that the Democrats have registered: those ballots are going to be just thrown out.

Posted by Angellight at 09/24/2008 @ 08:09am
"What do we use to burn witches? MORE WITCHES!! (She is going to turn Biden into a newt. He'll get better)"

Build a Bridge to Nowhere out of her!

Posted by onthehelm at 09/24/2008 @ 08:19am
If she weighs the same as a duck.....she's made of wood....and therefore?????

Posted by Maskdelta at 09/24/2008 @ 08:43am
bizarre BIZARRE BIZARRE OH MAN here in europe we look at american born agains as a severly mentally cult of socio-paths they are EXTREME PRIMITIVES.

WHAT A HORROR SHOW.

Posted by reality check at 09/24/2008 @ 08:57am
I DO feel absolutely ill seeing this vid ugggggggggh,this INSANE ideology is one of the main reasons i left the USA.

facism cam to america with bible wrapped in a flag carrying a cross-upton sinclair

Posted by reality check at 09/24/2008 @ 09:04am
Sing along folks ...

I saw the witch-hunter. He told me what to do..and he said ooo ... eee ooo ah ah, Ting tang walla walla bing bang.

Geez, its no f-ing wonder one half of the world hates us and the rest shake their heads in disbelief.

Posted by leftofcenter at 09/24/2008 @ 09:14am
attention ATTENTION THE POST ABOVE BY ANGEL LIGHT IS FALSE I REPEAT FALSE IT IS DISINFORMATION/ I WORK FOR DEMOCRATS ABROAD IN MUNICH GERMANY THERE IS NO I.D REQUIREMENT FOR AN ABSENTEE BALLOT OTHER THAN A VALID ADDRESS AND YOUR LAST FOUR DIGETS OF YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER. go online to vote now.com or to democratsabroad.com and register if you have not. it is easy there is an on-line wizard that walks you through the steps and gives you a three part down load a fax-e-mail registration form, a mail requst for absentee ballot and a provisional write in ballot in case you do not recieve your ballot in time. do not be fool by this so called DIS-INFORMATION BY ANGELLIGHT she is talking about caging votes which was thrown out in OHIO by the ohio sec of state-obviously a bornagain troll. go to ANY OFFICIAL web site like barackobama.com or votenow.com or democratsabroad.com college students CAN VOTE absentee no problem and in their place of current residence ie.the dorm

VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE

Posted by reality check at 09/24/2008 @ 09:17am
Posted by onthehelm at 09/24/2008 @ 08:19am

Sir Bedevere: What makes you think she's a witch?

Peasant 3: Well, she turned me into a newt!

Sir Bedevere: A newt?

Peasant 3: [meekly after a long pause] ... I got better.

Posted by Benchrest at 09/24/2008 @ 09:19am
Well, I guess Palin needs a nutcase her enemies can attach to her, to. After all, Obama does.

What I'm wondering is when all this "investigative journalism" is going to start discuss things that matter.

Posted by CHIP THORNTON at 09/24/2008 @ 09:27am
What I'm wondering is when all this "investigative journalism" is going to start discuss things that matter.

Posted by CHIP THORNTON at 09/24/2008 @ 09:27am

"Democrats To Allow Drilling Ban To Expire"

Posted by Benchrest at 09/24/2008 @ 09:31am
National Public Radio Blogs 17 March 2008 -- http:// www.npr.org/ blogs/news/2008/01/ barack_obama_and_the_influence.html

'...Washington Post columnist Richard Cohen, however, is not so crazy about Wright's message. He writes that in 1982 Wright founded Trumpet Newsmagazine; his daughters serve as publisher and executive editor. And Cohen takes exception to the magazine's naming of Louis Farrakhan as the winner of the Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. Trumpeter Award, saying he was a man who "truly epitomized greatness."

Cohen, however, believes that Farrakhan "epitomizes racism" for most Americans. He adds that he sees nothing in Obama's record that supports anti-Semitism of any kind, or agrees with the award given to Farrakhan. But praise for an "anti-Semitic demagogue is not a minor difference or an intrachurch issue."

"The Obama camp takes the view that its candidate, now that he has been told about the award, is under no obligation to speak out on the Farrakhan matter," writes Cohen. "It was not Obama's church that made the award but a magazine. This is a distinction without much of a difference. And given who the parishioner is, the obligation to speak out is all the greater. He could be the next American president. Where is his sense of outrage?"...'

Posted by HonestLiberal at 09/24/2008 @ 09:33am
Good

Posted by CHIP THORNTON at 09/24/2008 @ 09:37am
Posted by Angellight at 09/24/2008 @ 08:09am

is this true?

can you post some links in affirmation of this?

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/24/2008 @ 09:42am
Good

Posted by CHIP THORNTON at 09/24/2008 @ 09:37am

NOT for the republicans. They just lost their winning issue.

Posted by Benchrest at 09/24/2008 @ 09:42am
Posted by Angellight at 09/24/2008 @ 08:09am

o.k. here is the original interview:

http://airamerica.com/ringo

ffire/blog/2008/sep/22/rfk-jr-and-pap-your-vote-safe

"No, the democrats are doing nothing to stop it. In New Jersey, which is a swing state, 300,000 voters in New Jersey were just sent letters saying that they are now ineligible to vote. New jersey is nice enough to actually notify them--most states will not even notify them. And New Jersey intends to send out 870,000 letters so that is three quarters of a million people off the voting rolls in a state that could decide this vote by 50,000 votes. And these are democrats that are being pushed off the rolls."

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/24/2008 @ 09:48am
'I went specifically to see a pastor visiting from Kiambu, Kenya named Thomas Muthee. Muthee gained fame within Pentecostal circles by claiming that he defeated a local witch, Mama Jane, in a great spiritual battle...' -- Max Blumenthal -- The Nation -- 24 September, 2008

'To Reed-Smith, the questions about Obama's "blackness" actually point up one of his most important assets. "I believe that he has the best of two cultures within him. He has had such loving nurturing from our African culture, and then I think from the Caucasian culture he has the wit and intellect that's so sharp. I just think that both of those things together, it's the best of both worlds that he has within him.' -- Bob Moser -- The Nation -- 20 December, 2007

Posted by HonestLiberal at 09/24/2008 @ 10:02am
hey CHIP, is this still true?:

Made my decision Frost: If its Obama vs. McCain, I'll take Obama. Current leadership is so ineffective I'll try the Magic Wand as Hillary called it.

Posted by CHIP THORNTON at 04/25/2008

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/24/2008 @ 10:08am
'I went specifically to see a pastor visiting from Kiambu, Kenya named Thomas Muthee. Muthee gained fame within Pentecostal circles by claiming that he defeated a local witch, Mama Jane, in a great spiritual battle...' -- Max Blumenthal -- The Nation -- 24 September, 2008

Posted by HonestLiberal at 09/24/2008 @ 10:02am

How does one actually go about defeating a witch, and what happens to said witch after being defeated?

Do they melt?

Burst into flames?

File a complaint with the local authorities?

Posted by Benchrest at 09/24/2008 @ 10:09am
Thanks, FZ, for that RFK Jr blog.

Disturbing that Dem lawyers aren't on these cases yet.

Posted by sloper at 09/24/2008 @ 10:13am
I won't dignify Blumenthals tape by watching it----Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/24/2008 @ 09:50am

Max Blumenthal isn't IN the video, LL....Palin's minister is.

So why is sticking your fingers in your ears and closing your eyes and saying "I'm not listening! I'm not listening!" a swipe at Blumenthal...

and not an admission you know that outside of 8% (wasn't that your figure)...the rest of the country would think it's nuts!

BTW, as far as "extremely active" witchcraft in the US....

Everytime you try to point that out, Abner doesn't see it and Darrin and Samantha come up with rational explanation before you get the cops to show up!

Posted by Maskdelta at 09/24/2008 @ 10:15am
"Democrats To Allow Drilling Ban To Expire"

Posted by Benchrest at 09/24/2008 @ 09:31am

CHRONOLOGY OF MORATORIA ON OFFSHORE DRILLING

FROM 1981 THROUGH 1986, THE SENATE WAS CONTROLLED BY A REPUBLICAN MAJORITY, THE HOUSE HAD A DEMOCRATIC MAJORITY, AND REPUBLICAN RONALD REAGAN WAS PRESIDENT. IT WAS DURING THIS TIME THAT THE FIRST MORATORIA ON OIL AND GAS LEASING WERE PUT IN PLACE.

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/24/2008 @ 10:26am
In 1985, Donald Hodel replaced James Watt as Secretary of the Interior. Secretary Hodel began negotiating an agreement with Congress to prohibit leases off many coastal areas in exchange for the authority to lease tracts in a few areas. Hodel began negotiating with the California Delegation. Republican Congressman Bill Lowery of San Diego, a member of the Appropriations Committee, was a leading advocate for continuing the moratorium on leases off Southern California throughout his Congressional career.

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/24/2008 @ 10:26am
In June 1990, PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH announced a 10-year moratorium on drilling off California, Florida, and New England. The Interior Appropriations Act for FY 1991 included one-year bans on leases for areas not covered in Bush's order, including BRISTOL BAY IN ALASKA, the Florida Panhandle, and the Atlantic from New Jersey to Maryland.

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/24/2008 @ 10:26am
Interior Secretary Gale Norton also proposed to pay the Collier family $120 million to relinquish mineral rights in the Everglades, and allow the Colliers to take a $350 million tax deduction. The Colliers said the mineral rights were worth $472 million, but the National Park Services estimated they were worth $20 million and the Inspector General of the Department of Interior estimated they were worth no more than $43 million. Congress blocked the deal, but the Colliers continue to threaten to drill in the Everglades in order to try to force the government to buy them out.

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/24/2008 @ 10:26am
The vitriol of the left towards christianity is becoming ubelievable. I am forwarding this thread on to a number of pastors and other christians so they will finally realize what I have been sharing with them.

This hatred of Christians under the guise of so-called liberalism is nothing but a anti-religious freedom bigotry.

I won't dignify Blumenthals tape by watching it, but the words he posted are no different from that which is conducted in 10's of thousands of churches every week in the US.

Not that it will matter one iota in educating this bigotry here, but the witchcraft described is extremely active in the US and has nothing to do with images of Salem witch hunting. It's not even referring to Wiccan's are anything similar. But as I said, you aren't interested in truth, just looking for another reason to exhibit bigotry towards Christianity.

Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/24/2008 @ 09:50am

there's nothing wrong with being religious, but this isn't christianity. it's extremism. extremism, which if the mccain/palin team wins in november, would be "a heartbeat away" from the presidency, who could also be "a heartbeat away" from pushing up daisies.

Posted by palehorse67 at 09/24/2008 @ 10:28am
fuck!

the "machine" ate two posts!

oh well, suffice to say that all these moratoria were put in place by

REAGAN AND BUSH.

GEORGIE DID NOTHING FOR 6 YEARS.

he was too busy driving up the price of oil by starting wars, rattling sabres, and devaluating the dollar!

NOW, it's profitable to drill, baby, drill.

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/24/2008 @ 10:30am
here's the FULL summary on offshore moratoria:

http://www.taylor.house.gov/index2.php?

option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=149

OH, THE FRIKKIN' LINK IS TOO LONG.........

GRRRRRRRR.

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/24/2008 @ 10:31am
Not that it will matter one iota in educating this bigotry here, but the witchcraft described is extremely active in the US and has nothing to do with images of Salem witch hunting. It's not even referring to Wiccan's are anything similar. But as I said, you aren't interested in truth, just looking for another reason to exhibit bigotry towards Christianity.

Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/24/2008 @ 09:50am

are you referring to the type of witchcraft that invades sovereign nations?

the oily ones, that is.

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/24/2008 @ 10:33am
or the type of witchcraft that

DEVELOPS CLUSTER BOMBS AND DEPLETED URANIUM MUNITIONS?

are you a witch lvliberty?

i bet you haven't mentioned your killing spree to your fellow pastors, have you?

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/24/2008 @ 10:35am
hey mask,

pull up some of lv's old quotes on nukes and stuff.

he's gonna pass this on to his buddies.

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/24/2008 @ 10:41am
"Well, according to the Right.... this is fair game."

Of course it is.

Now.... where is the footage of those Indonesian schools that O attended? - We need to make an informed decision here.

So far, all I have is "visiting pastor vs. 20 year family friend and spiritual advisor."

Posted by State17 at 09/24/2008 @ 10:42am
Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/24/2008 @ 09:50am

I think that you would find that if the words used and lives lived by the 'religious' right were in concert with the teachings of Jesus, there would be much less animosity directed towards the "CHINOs" (CHristians In Name Only).

Posted by skeletonman at 09/24/2008 @ 10:42am
"here's the FULL summary on offshore moratoria"

Gas was a BUCK a gallon. Things have changed.

Time to get "progressive" and develop our own energy sources.

Pixie dust won't get you far. Oil is the flavor of the month.

Posted by State17 at 09/24/2008 @ 10:48am
Now.... where is the footage of those Indonesian schools that O attended? - We need to make an informed decision here.

Posted by State17 at 09/24/2008 @ 10:42am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-kPCCog0BY&fmt=18&fmt=18

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/24/2008 @ 10:50am
what kind of witches, lv?

am i a witch?

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/24/2008 @ 10:52am
As to the tape, it's not to hear Blumenthal (as I know he's not on the tape). I know what goes on in those services. They are no different than the ones I conduct or that of thousands of other churches I have visited over the years.

Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/24/2008 @ 10:49am

that's unsettling.

Posted by palehorse67 at 09/24/2008 @ 10:54am
FROSTY,

Yes, it is still true.

Palin's nomination made me think, because she's a go getter, also not part of the current BB generation currently ruining the country.(NOT a freudian slip there) The idea of her coming out of left field, and then perhaps suddenly finding herself President due to circumstance is so reminicent of 1900, and that appealed to my sense of historical milestones (not that I would wish anything like death on anyone)

Plus, lets face it, we havn't had a hottie in and around the White House since Jackie Kennedy! :)

But McCain will still be calling the shots, so yes, I'm still pulling for Obama.

Posted by CHIP THORNTON at 09/24/2008 @ 10:55am
Palin's nomination made me think, because she's a go getter, also not part of the current BB generation currently ruining the country.(NOT a freudian slip there) The idea of her coming out of left field, and then perhaps suddenly finding herself President due to circumstance is so reminicent of 1900, and that appealed to my sense of historical milestones (not that I would wish anything like death on anyone)

Posted by CHIP THORNTON at 09/24/2008 @ 10:55am

the early 20th century wasn't exactly a highlight for the u.s.

Posted by palehorse67 at 09/24/2008 @ 10:58am
You are far too ignorant Frosty for someone with intelligence.

Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/24/2008 @ 10:52am

Did you happen to watch the Ryder Cup this weekend?

ANY of it?

Posted by Benchrest at 09/24/2008 @ 11:02am
Yo, folks, would you really prefer a Veep still possessed by the devil?

Carl Bernstein's book on this election cycle should be a beaut.

Pity Hunter Thompson isn't around to do it full justice.

Posted by sloper at 09/24/2008 @ 11:02am
"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-kPCCog0BY&fmt=18&fmt=18"

I'm Barack H. Obama, and I approved this message.

Posted by State17 at 09/24/2008 @ 11:03am
last word for the mockers this morning.

there are spiritural storm clouds forming over the earth.

I pray that those who do not know Jesus as your personal Lord and Saviour, seek Him while He may be found.

Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/24/2008 @ 11:00am

oh get over your holier than thou bullshit, you wanna be martyr.

Posted by palehorse67 at 09/24/2008 @ 11:05am
PALEHORSE,

I guess we'll have to disagree on that point. I consider the period from roughly 1890 through 1918 to be one of the most magnificient in our history. Perhaps if you have time some time we can discuss it.

Posted by CHIP THORNTON at 09/24/2008 @ 11:08am
I know what goes on in those services. They are no different than the ones I conduct or that of thousands of other churches I have visited over the years.

Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/24/2008 @ 10:49am

Have you defeated any witches in mortal combat?

Posted by Balrog at 09/24/2008 @ 11:08am
PALEHORSE,

I guess we'll have to disagree on that point. I consider the period from roughly 1890 through 1918 to be one of the most magnificient in our history. Perhaps if you have time some time we can discuss it.

Posted by CHIP THORNTON at 09/24/2008 @ 11:08am

i've got oodles.

Posted by palehorse67 at 09/24/2008 @ 11:10am
Hey BALROG,

Since you must be a Lord of the Rings fan, as I am, you might appreciate the comment I sent both to the DNC's and Nancy Pelosi's web sites:

DRILL, YOU FOOLS!

Heh Heh

Posted by CHIP THORNTON at 09/24/2008 @ 11:11am
oh well, suffice to say that all these moratoria were put in place by

REAGAN AND BUSH.

GEORGIE DID NOTHING FOR 6 YEARS.

he was too busy driving up the price of oil by starting wars, rattling sabres, and devaluating the dollar!

NOW, it's profitable to drill, baby, drill.

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/24/2008 @ 10:30am

This was an absolutely brilliant move by the Dems.

No matter all those issues that crazyMett kept harping.

This was the GOP's magic bullet, and now it is gone. Too bad, so sad.

Posted by Benchrest at 09/24/2008 @ 11:11am
This hatred of Christians under the guise of so-called liberalism is nothing but a anti-religious freedom bigotry.

Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/24/2008 @ 09:50am

Just because we think you're all a bunch of loonies doesn't mean we hate you.

It's not anti-religious to scoff and even pity those who think the earth is flat.

Posted by Balrog at 09/24/2008 @ 11:12am
lvliberty-Nothing on this thread shows that the left is anti Christian nor is there anything on here that shows that the left is anti freedom of religion,but I'm not surprised that you,desperately,want to see that..Of course,you must remember that you have put down others beliefs like reincarnation,also.Does that make you anti freedom of religion?By your logic it does.

Posted by i'm nobody at 09/24/2008 @ 11:12am
"I am forwarding this thread on to a number of pastors and other christians so they will finally realize what I have been sharing with them."

Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/24/2008 @ 09:50am

No, please, PLEASE don't tell on us! I renounce witches, I promise. Snakes and black cats are dangerous, I promise I believe. I BELIEVE. CAST OUT MY DEMONS.

This isn't a liberal position, as I'm sure the Unitarians are far too liberal for you. This is a RATIONAL position. This reliance on ancient myths, especially in regards to public and foreign policy is ridiculous. It leaves no room for reason and science - the current administration is living proof.

"But as I said, you aren't interested in truth, just looking for another reason to exhibit bigotry towards Christianity."

Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/24/2008 @ 09:50am

Actually, my interest in the truth is exactly why I "exhibit bigotry" towards christianity. If you assert your beliefs without evidence, I can just as easily dismiss them without evidence. The only reason abstinence education is a political issue is because of fundamentalist christianity. Given all of the real world evidence about teens and sex and the damage caused by this approach to their education regarding it should be the focal point. Not whether or not premarital or safe sexual practices will send its participants to a fiery prison.

Posted by HAL9000 at 09/24/2008 @ 11:13am
I consider the period from roughly 1890 through 1918 to be one of the most magnificient in our history. Perhaps if you have time some time we can discuss it.

Posted by CHIP THORNTON at 09/24/2008 @ 11:08am

Ah, the age of "Teddy". The building of the Panama Canal, the Great White Fleet and the pacific empire...the time when America truly took center stage as a world power.

Posted by Balrog at 09/24/2008 @ 11:15am
Actually, my interest in the truth is exactly why I "exhibit bigotry" towards christianity. If you assert your beliefs without evidence, I can just as easily dismiss them without evidence. The only reason abstinence education is a political issue is because of fundamentalist christianity. Given all of the real world evidence about teens and sex and the damage caused by this approach to their education regarding it should be the focal point. Not whether or not premarital or safe sexual practices will send its participants to a fiery prison.

Posted by HAL9000 at 09/24/2008 @ 11:13am

HAL9000: 1 lvliberty: 0

Posted by palehorse67 at 09/24/2008 @ 11:16am
Ah, the age of "Teddy". The building of the Panama Canal, the Great White Fleet and the pacific empire...the time when America truly took center stage as a world power.

Posted by Balrog at 09/24/2008 @ 11:15am

ya know, when they OPPOSED imperialism.

Posted by palehorse67 at 09/24/2008 @ 11:19am
Obama's family is from Nyang'oma Kogelo, a village in the Nyanza Province in Kenya. Palin's preacher, Thomas Muthee, is from Kiambu, a town in the Central Province. Only the Rift valley separates them. Coincidence? I think not. Remember, Obama's mother was from Wichita. Notice how similar the words "Wichita" and "Witch" are? Pretty spooky. And didn't Obama visit his family in Kenya?

Posted by AAustin at 09/24/2008 @ 11:22am
lvliberty-If people want to believe in witch craft,voodoo,and casting out demons,etc then that's fine with most everyone,but that does not mean that we want believers in such things a heart beat away from the white house.No one on the left is going to these churches and trying to stop them from believing in these things nor is anyone on the left trying to make believing in such things illegal.You can believe what you want,but others don't have to accept it or your version of Jesus.

Posted by i'm nobody at 09/24/2008 @ 11:22am
You are far too ignorant Frosty for someone with intelligence.

Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/24/2008 @ 10:52am

but am i a witch?

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/24/2008 @ 11:24am
Gas was a BUCK a gallon. Things have changed.

Posted by State17 at 09/24/2008 @ 10:48am

yeah, because reagan fomented a war which killed millions.

"mr. hussein, tear down those marshes!"

plus gas was a BUCK a gallon because the dollar hadn't depreciated 60%.

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/24/2008 @ 11:29am
You can believe what you want,but others don't have to accept it or your version of Jesus.

Posted by i'm nobody at 09/24/2008 @ 11:22am

And that's the problem most "non-believers" have with the religious loons - the loonies expect the rest of us to buy into their nonsense, and get all indignant when we don't.

Posted by Balrog at 09/24/2008 @ 11:30am
Muthee's prayer worked.

Posted by AAustin at 09/24/2008 @ 11:30am
Oil is the flavor of the month.

Posted by State17 at 09/24/2008 @ 10:48am

see if you can understand this:

http://economistsview.typepad.com/photos/uncate

gorized/2008/09/13/drill.jpg

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/24/2008 @ 11:31am
Oil is the flavor of the month.

Posted by State17 at 09/24/2008 @ 10:48am

"We waste more energy than we import."

james carter, 1977.

WHAT THE FUCK?!?!??

A SWEATER?!?!??!

FUCKIN' WIMP DON'T KNOW THAT AMERICA AIN'T NO WIMPS!

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/24/2008 @ 11:33am
Oil is the flavor of the month.

Posted by State17 at 09/24/2008 @ 10:48am

The second principle is that healthy economic growth must continue. Only by saving energy can we maintain our standard of living and keep our people at work. An effective conservation program will create hundreds of thousands of new jobs.

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/24/2008 @ 11:34am
My cousin is a member of this church in Illinois. Her group became fanatics after learning I had converted to Judaism. While other Jews are considered favorites for conversion to professing Jesus, I was the worst of the worst - a person who had officially renounced Jesus as my lord and saviour.

They did rituals against my long deceased parents as well as me. They were obsessed with getting the Christian names of my parents.

This is the first time I have had proof of the kind of rituals they had against my parents and me. While I can intellectualize about this series of events, it is always unsettling in my memory bank. The very idea that anyone in this group, which I consider a cult, could become president is horrifying to the max.

To my cousin God was a huge Jesus floating in the sky.

In any case I find anyone who has a view that they have found the only way to God frightening, particularly in an official capacity. Any method to get my parents names was considered ethical. My cousin only knew their nicknames. My cousin was focused on the ends and the means were inconsequential.

This video at least gives an inking of Sarah Palin and her specific religious practices.

I do remember my father giving me all his cousins when I was four. He said he had found cousins to be the most useless category in the world. At least I have one humorous aspect of this pattern.

Posted by UnhyphenatedUSA at 09/24/2008 @ 11:34am
Oil is the flavor of the month.

Posted by State17 at 09/24/2008 @ 10:48am

The third principle is that we must protect the environment. Our energy problems have the same cause as our environmental problems -- wasteful use of resources. Conservation helps us solve both at once.

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/24/2008 @ 11:34am
Oil is the flavor of the month.

Posted by State17 at 09/24/2008 @ 10:48am

The sixth principle, and the cornerstone of our policy, is to reduce the demand through conservation. Our emphasis on conservation is a clear difference between this plan and others which merely encouraged crash production efforts. Conservation is the quickest, cheapest, most practical source of energy. Conservation is the only way we can buy a barrel of oil for a few dollars. It costs about $13 to waste it.

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/24/2008 @ 11:35am
Oil is the flavor of the month.

Posted by State17 at 09/24/2008 @ 10:48am

THE SEVENTH PRINCIPLE IS THAT PRICES SHOULD GENERALLY REFLECT THE TRUE REPLACEMENT COSTS OF ENERGY. WE ARE ONLY CHEATING OURSELVES IF WE MAKE ENERGY ARTIFICIALLY CHEAP AND USE MORE THAN WE CAN REALLY AFFORD.

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/24/2008 @ 11:35am
Oil is the flavor of the month.

Posted by State17 at 09/24/2008 @ 10:48am

THE TENTH PRINCIPLE IS THAT WE MUST START NOW TO DEVELOP THE NEW, UNCONVENTIONAL SOURCES OF ENERGY WE WILL RELY ON IN THE NEXT CENTURY.

THE TENTH PRINCIPLE IS THAT WE MUST START NOW TO DEVELOP THE NEW, UNCONVENTIONAL SOURCES OF ENERGY WE WILL RELY ON IN THE NEXT CENTURY.

THE TENTH PRINCIPLE IS THAT WE MUST START NOW TO DEVELOP THE NEW, UNCONVENTIONAL SOURCES OF ENERGY WE WILL RELY ON IN THE NEXT CENTURY.

THE TENTH PRINCIPLE IS THAT WE MUST START NOW TO DEVELOP THE NEW, UNCONVENTIONAL SOURCES OF ENERGY WE WILL RELY ON IN THE NEXT CENTURY.

THE TENTH PRINCIPLE IS THAT WE MUST START NOW TO DEVELOP THE NEW, UNCONVENTIONAL SOURCES OF ENERGY WE WILL RELY ON IN THE NEXT CENTURY.

THE TENTH PRINCIPLE IS THAT WE MUST START NOW TO DEVELOP THE NEW, UNCONVENTIONAL SOURCES OF ENERGY WE WILL RELY ON IN THE NEXT CENTURY.

THE TENTH PRINCIPLE IS THAT WE MUST START NOW TO DEVELOP THE NEW, UNCONVENTIONAL SOURCES OF ENERGY WE WILL RELY ON IN THE NEXT CENTURY.

THE TENTH PRINCIPLE IS THAT WE MUST START NOW TO DEVELOP THE NEW, UNCONVENTIONAL SOURCES OF ENERGY WE WILL RELY ON IN THE NEXT CENTURY.

THE TENTH PRINCIPLE IS THAT WE MUST START NOW TO DEVELOP THE NEW, UNCONVENTIONAL SOURCES OF ENERGY WE WILL RELY ON IN THE NEXT CENTURY.

THE TENTH PRINCIPLE IS THAT WE MUST START NOW TO DEVELOP THE NEW, UNCONVENTIONAL SOURCES OF ENERGY WE WILL RELY ON IN THE NEXT CENTURY.

THE TENTH PRINCIPLE IS THAT WE MUST START NOW TO DEVELOP THE NEW, UNCONVENTIONAL SOURCES OF ENERGY WE WILL RELY ON IN THE NEXT CENTURY.

THE TENTH PRINCIPLE IS THAT WE MUST START NOW TO DEVELOP THE NEW, UNCONVENTIONAL SOURCES OF ENERGY WE WILL RELY ON IN THE NEXT CENTURY.

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/24/2008 @ 11:36am
see if you can understand this:

http://economistsview.typepad.com/photos/uncate

gorized/2008/09/13/drill.jpg

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/24/2008 @ 11:31am

Doesn't add much, does it?

Posted by Benchrest at 09/24/2008 @ 11:37am
Oil is the flavor of the month.

Posted by State17 at 09/24/2008 @ 10:48am

Jimmy Carter put solar panels on the White House roof, and offered tax credits to anyone who purchased solar energy systems. When Ronald Reagan took office, one of the first things he did was remove the solar panels from the White House and terminate the tax credits. Many people in the solar industry went out of business. The country was convinced that solar doesn't work.

"MR. CARTER, TEAR DOWN THOSE SOLAR PANELS!"

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/24/2008 @ 11:44am
i bet you haven't mentioned your killing spree to your fellow pastors, have you?

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/24/2008 @ 10:35am

Of course I have.

Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/24/2008 @ 10:52am

hmmm,

i didn't know pentacostals had confession.

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/24/2008 @ 11:46am
"Muthee gained fame within Pentecostal circles by claiming that he defeated a local witch, Mama Jane, in a great spiritual battle"...' -- Max Blumenthal -- The Nation -- 24 September, 2008

Muthee's prayer worked.

Posted by AAustin at 09/24/2008 @ 11:30am

I thought it was a "Great Spiritual Battle".

I sort of have a mental picture of running into Mama Jane at Wal Mart after this "Great Spiritual Battle" and her, in her Kenyan dress, looking like she had been dragged behind a truck in a dirt field, and saying to her "Hey, you might want to put a bandaid on that".

Posted by Benchrest at 09/24/2008 @ 11:46am
balrog-One of the things that many of the more far right Christians don't understand is that they turn people off to their beliefs.Just look at how luvvy, constantly, puts down the left and then states that the left should embrace his beliefs as if people are going embrace your beliefs after you spend a bunch of time putting them down.Christians are supposed to use love to get people to come over to their way of thinking by embracing all people,but their type of Christian can get quite nasty with people who have different views and condemn everyone to hell who disagrees with them..

Posted by i'm nobody at 09/24/2008 @ 11:52am
Palin's nomination made me think, because she's a go getter, also not part of the current BB generation currently ruining the country.(NOT a freudian slip there) The idea of her coming out of left field, and then perhaps suddenly finding herself President due to circumstance is so reminicent of 1900, and that appealed to my sense of historical milestones (not that I would wish anything like death on anyone)

Posted by CHIP THORNTON at 09/24/2008 @ 10:55am

"Well, you know, first, Fannie and Freddie, different because quasi-government agencies there where government had to step in because the adverse impacts all across our nation, especially with homeowners, is just too impacting. We had to step in there. I do not like the idea, though, of taxpayers being used to bail out these corporations. Today, with AIG, important call there, though, because of the construction bonds and the insurance carrier duties of AIG. But, first and foremost, taxpayers cannot be looked to as the bailout, as the solution to the problems on Wall Street."

sarah palin

"We stand equally against government by a plutocracy and government by a mob. There is something to be said for government by a great aristocracy which has furnished leaders to the nation in peace and war for generations; even a democrat like myself must admit this. But there is absolutely nothing to be said for government by a plutocracy, for government by men very powerful in certain lines and gifted with "the money touch," but with ideals which in their essence are merely those of so many glorified pawnbrokers."

teddy

hmmmm?

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/24/2008 @ 11:53am
"THE TENTH PRINCIPLE IS THAT WE MUST START NOW TO DEVELOP THE NEW, UNCONVENTIONAL SOURCES OF ENERGY WE WILL RELY ON IN THE NEXT CENTURY. Posted by frosty zoom at 09/24/2008 @ 11:36am"

Fine. Start now. Until then I need oil to get my ass to work. So don't forget to drill also. Plenty of jobs lost by not drilling now.

Gonna be alot of pissed off throwback tree-huggers about 15 years from now when all the windmills have Exxon stamped on them.

Posted by State17 at 09/24/2008 @ 12:05pm
I pray that those who do not know Jesus as your personal Lord and Saviour, seek Him while He may be found.

Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/24/2008 @ 11:00am

Found Him.

currently housed in a Immigration and Naturalization detention center.

He claimed "I have children everywhere" and the on-duty immigration officer said "ahh, a rock and roll star! well, we don't want your kind in the USA, you hippy peacnik!".

Posted by crabwalk at 09/24/2008 @ 12:15pm
Posted by State17 at 09/24/2008 @ 12:05pm

what kind of car do you drive?

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/24/2008 @ 12:21pm
You think the reason they're keeping Palin in hiding, away from the Press, etc.....

is fear of witches?

Would that mean if she become Veep, we'll have to provide copies of the "Malleus Maleficarum" to the Secret Service agents!?!?!???

Posted by Maskdelta at 09/24/2008 @ 12:23pm
Exactly how are sheeps bladder used to control terrorism?

Posted by crabwalk at 09/24/2008 @ 12:24pm
Top ten wind turbine manufacturers (Source: BTM Consult ApS - March 2008)

Vestas (Denmark)

GE Energy (United States)

Gamesa (Spain)

Enercon (Germany)

Suzlon (India)

Siemens (Germany)

Acciona (Spain)

Goldwind (China - PRC)

Nordex (Germany)

Sinovel (China - PRC)

hmmmmm?

exxon?

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/24/2008 @ 12:27pm
Exactly how are sheeps bladder used to control terrorism?

Posted by crabwalk at 09/24/2008 @ 12:24pm

haggisboarding.

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/24/2008 @ 12:28pm
Ya think Bristol ignored her abstinence-only education and "gave into sin" because....

she saw a "Harry Potter" movie???

heheh

Posted by Maskdelta at 09/24/2008 @ 12:35pm
LVLib must be in possession of some of Aimee Semple McPherson's old dress shields. Evangelical religious relics, you know. I would testify that if given the choice of listening to say Billy Graham as opposed to Rush Limbaugh, most 'gelicals would choose Rush. Religion IS politics to these guys.

Posted by Sorelish at 09/24/2008 @ 12:40pm
awww, the blog is gone from the TOP.

too bad, so much room for "hatred" of the witch hunters/battlers/fearers

Posted by crabwalk at 09/24/2008 @ 12:51pm
Has anyone weighed Sarah lately?

could be a fair cop.

Posted by crabwalk at 09/24/2008 @ 12:52pm
4:40 into the clip: "Christian union is nothing more [than] a bunch of kids that are born again, spirit-fueled, tongue-talking, devil-casting...is anybody hearing me?"

I'm hearing you, Rev. But in my church the Christian union doesn't include the tongue-talking or devil-casting.

Posted by nathanhale at 09/24/2008 @ 12:56pm
Is that anything like dwarf tossing?

Posted by crabwalk at 09/24/2008 @ 12:58pm
Quite different. Dwarf tossing is the term Wall Street Republicans use to describe their hold on the evangelical vote.

Posted by nathanhale at 09/24/2008 @ 1:26pm
I'm hearing you, Rev. But in my church the Christian union doesn't include the tongue-talking or devil-casting.

Posted by nathanhale at 09/24/2008 @ 12:56pm

It's the same with mine. What my priest told the congreagtin was that if someone is a Christian, there'll be no need to exclasim, "I'm a Christian!" People will be able to see that just by the words you speak and the deeds you do. Besides, during the early days of the church, women were characterized as witches if they were considered a threat to the church hierarchy. Atleast that's what I learned from the History channel. But hey, what do they know? They only used facts gathered from research and expert theologians and historians.

Posted by k330k at 09/24/2008 @ 1:40pm
Posted by k330k at 09/24/2008 @ 1:40pm

The arc of Pastor Muthee's career shows that, at least within certain congregations, witches can still be exploited.

Posted by nathanhale at 09/24/2008 @ 1:50pm
BTW, ask LVLIB, if there's nothing to be ashamed about in Murthee's sermon and it represents "mainstream Christianity"...

why did the Wasilla Assemby of God REMOVE it from their website?!?!?!??

Posted by Maskdelta at 09/24/2008 @ 1:54pm
If I was pastor of this church I would invite the entire media to come in with cameras and anything else just so I could preach my message to them and show them that I have nothing to hide.I would invite them to discuss what they saw and heard in my church at a nice after church brunch.They would be made to feel quite welcome.

Posted by i'm nobody at 09/24/2008 @ 2:09pm
It is interesting how so many Christians incorporated their old superstitious beliefs,like voodoo,witchcraft,etc. into their new religion, Christianity.In places like the Ozarks you still have people using charms and potions that ward off evil as part of their Christian beliefs.

Posted by i'm nobody at 09/24/2008 @ 2:20pm
To FROSTY, PALEHORSE and THE BALROG Dammit Gentlemen (or Ladies, I don't know you all) I'd love to get into a discussion about that era but the chumps downstairs are burying me.

To the guy who believes in witches, what can I say but:

Oh, IDObelieveinspooks IDObelievein spooks I doIdoIdoIdoIdoIdo IDObelieve in...

:)

Posted by CHIP THORNTON at 09/24/2008 @ 2:23pm
Ah, there's nothing quite like a snake bite to ward off evil.

Hey, LVL is Pentecostal. Maybe we should toss him a few cottonmouths and see how it works. Their nuerotoxic venom isn't supposed to harm him.

Posted by Benchrest at 09/24/2008 @ 2:28pm
eu

Posted by Benchrest at 09/24/2008 @ 2:31pm
Posted by CHIP THORNTON at 09/24/2008 @ 2:23pm

Lions and tigers and bears, oh MY!

Witches and wizards and flying monkeys, oh MY!

Posted by Benchrest at 09/24/2008 @ 2:35pm
Posted by nathanhale at 09/24/2008 @ 1:50pm | ignore this person

Ain't that the truth.

Posted by k330k at 09/24/2008 @ 2:46pm
Posted by Benchrest at 09/24/2008 @ 2:28pm

No, that's not the way it works.

If a pentacostal/literalist Christian gets snake bit ON PURPOSE...that's "tempting God" and God allows you to die from the venom.

If a pentacostal/literalist Christian gets snake bit BY ACCIDENT and dies....that's "God's plan".

If they happen to survive...it "proves that Matthew 16:18 is true".

(Oddly, the odds of "God's plan" versus "proves Matthew 16:18 is true" are nearly the same in a non-believer....oddly.)

Posted by Maskdelta at 09/24/2008 @ 3:02pm
To FROSTY, PALEHORSE and THE BALROG Dammit Gentlemen (or Ladies, I don't know you all) I'd love to get into a discussion about that era but the chumps downstairs are burying me.

To the guy who believes in witches, what can I say but:

Oh, IDObelieveinspooks IDObelievein spooks I doIdoIdoIdoIdoIdo IDObelieve in...

:)

Posted by CHIP THORNTON at 09/24/2008 @ 2:23pm

do what i do. ignore em.

Posted by palehorse67 at 09/24/2008 @ 3:08pm
Oddly, the odds of "God's plan" versus "proves Matthew 16:18 is true" are nearly the same in a non-believer....oddly.)

Posted by Maskdelta at 09/24/2008 @ 3:02pm |

How....odd.

It MUST be coincidence.

I still say it's worth a shot.

Posted by Benchrest at 09/24/2008 @ 3:32pm
Posted by Benchrest at 09/24/2008 @ 3:32pm

It's the same "oddity" that gets them their claim that "Prayer healed his cancer".

Take a 5% remission rate for cancer.

Take 20 people with terminal cancer.

5% would leave one alive.

Now, if that ONE claims that he was "prayed over" or "prayed fervently"...he gets to claim "God cured my cancer!"

The dead 19 may have prayed equally as hard, or been prayed over equally as hard...but they're dead and it was "God's will" if anybody asks.

Neat, huh? "Just so happens" that the one guy who survived cancer was "cured by God"...and is ALIVE to tell us.

Posted by Maskdelta at 09/24/2008 @ 3:51pm
uh oh. mccain now wants to use the "economic crisis" now, 2 days before the first presidential debate, as a way to delay it. this is absolutely absurd. he didn't seemed concerned all those years he was busy gutting legislation to prevent such crises from happening. he wasn't concerned a month or so ago when he said "the fundamentals of our economy is sound".

no, now he wants to appear to lead in a crisis for political gain, because his lackeys saw he was down in the "who's best suited to handle the economy" polls. give me a break.

he accuses obama of putting personal gain before the country. that is exactly what john mccain is doing by suggesting this delay.

Posted by palehorse67 at 09/24/2008 @ 3:56pm
Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/24/2008 @ 9:38pm

what if Obama were a witch, instead of a scary Mooselum?

Posted by crabwalk at 09/25/2008 @ 08:36am
Why make fun of Palin? Isnt Biden the one in the religion that believes life begins at conception, the pope is infallible, condoms are sinful, saints perform miracles, priests shouldn't marry,...

Posted by Mistral at 09/25/2008 @ 09:09am
Yes, but

'A liberal is somebody who refuses to force his principles on anybody, including himself' -- John Stuart Mill

Posted by HonestLiberal at 09/25/2008 @ 09:12am
lvliberty-I did not post any lies,but you did,although,in honesty,you don't know it.You do condemn people to hell, as you did with Gandhi.The fact that you blame your actions on one Bible verse is irrelevant.I know that no Christian can condemn anyone,but you guys need to figure that out rather than use semantics in order to lie to yourselves and condemn while claiming that you aren't.I have nothing against Christianity,but you do have a persecution complex where you see that.

Posted by i'm nobody at 09/25/2008 @ 09:29am
lvliberty-First you say that you don't say that people have to embrace your beliefs and then follow that up with a but they are going to hell if they don't.

Posted by i'm nobody at 09/25/2008 @ 09:31am
lvliberty-It is true,however that I don't care much for the fact that your type of Christian,like conservative Muslims,have such a low opinion of God and make God out to be far less than what God is.

Posted by i'm nobody at 09/25/2008 @ 10:00am
lvliberty-It was you, and not the Bible, that wrote it out that Gandhi goes to hell so don't blame the Bible for your actions.

Posted by i'm nobody at 09/25/2008 @ 11:00am

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