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RedditIt may be true that Dan Senor hardly ever got anything right when he served as military spokesman for "Coalition of the Willing" forces in Baghdad during the period when things began going from bad to worse.
But, presumably, the man who spun the occupation as a success at precisely the moment it was degenerating into disaster knows a thing or two about the thinking of his old comrade-in-arms, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, with regard to the Republican vice presidential nomination.
Noting that Rice recently appeared at a gathering of right-wing Republicans organized by anti-government crusader Grover Norquist, Senor said Sunday on ABC News' "This Week With George Stephanopoulos that the former Bush administration national security adviser is now jockeying for the No. 2 spot of John McCain's GOP ticket.
"Condi Rice has been actively, actually in recent weeks, campaigning for this," claimed Senor.
Rice has consistently claimed she has no interest in the presidency or the vice presidency and McCain said on Sunday that if Rice is sending signals he has "missed" them.
But senator from Arizona certainly didn't sound like he was ruling Rice out.
Of the woman who neglected to explain to President Bush the importance of a pre-9/11 intelligence briefing that suggested Osama bin Laden's followers intended to attack the United States, and who later claimed on the basis of no apparent evidence that a failure to attack Iraq would put the U.S. in danger of nuclear attack, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee said on Sunday: "her overall record is very, very meritorious."
"I think she's a great American," argued McCain. "I think there's very little that I can say that isn't anything but the utmost praise for a great American citizen, who served as a role model to so many millions of people in this country and around the world."
Sounds like a match made in neo-con heaven... or in that corner of hell where a hundred-year war, er, occupation, seems like an attractive prospect.
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plus,
she's black and a woman.
see. the gop cares....
Posted by frosty zoom at 04/06/2008 @ 11:27pm
birth pangs of more bush?
Posted by frosty zoom at 04/06/2008 @ 11:29pm
RUN CONDI RUN!!!! TAKE HER FLIPPY MAC! LASH YOURSELF EVER AND EVER MORE TIGHTLY TO THAT SINKING SHIP!!!!
maybe she's starting to think about the possibility of post administration criminal trials if the repugnants lose control of the federal beuracracy and not enough incriminating documentation gets power shredded...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 04/06/2008 @ 11:30pm
If he chooses her it is proof that it's just more of the same.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 04/07/2008 @ 01:09am
She is Dick Cheney.
Posted by winyahn at 04/07/2008 @ 01:14am
She attended Irving Kristol Elementary School.
Posted by winyahn at 04/07/2008 @ 01:18am
CONDI? Depends: can you impeach a newly minted V.P. based on what she did a few years back? Best worse case scenario.
Posted by winyahn at 04/07/2008 @ 01:21am
She was shopping for shoes on Fifth Avenue when the Hurracaine Katrina hit her own State. She couldn't care less.
Posted by nursevic at 04/07/2008 @ 02:41am
Posted by MARKCANYON 04/07/2008 @ 01:35am |
Yet somehow, she was a screw-up as secretary of State and got you in the money-draining quagmire also known as Iraq. So one could argue that all the things you listed about her don't really matter. Some of the things you said about Obama were false btw.
Posted by johnny canuck at 04/07/2008 @ 06:59am
Posted by JOMAMMA 04/07/2008 @ 07:21am
Condi running for VP won't be enough to sway black folk to the Republican side. She still is closely connected to George Bush. Colin Powell had a better chance. He was always thought of as the most honest in the room. maybe the man/woman thing. In either case, she would be a good VP. She's very knowledgeable. I just didn't trust her judgement in pushing Iraq to the forefront when I was all for getting OBL in Afghanistan. Anyway, it'll look like a token pick to most. I'd rather have her as the NFL commish. Now that would make waves!
Posted by k330k at 04/07/2008 @ 07:55am
Please, oh, please let them be STUPID enough to put Ms. "Mushroom Cloud" on the ticket!
Posted by Egalitare at 04/07/2008 @ 08:36am
Posted by JOMAMMA 04/07/2008 @ 07:21am
what i noticed first is that she's a war-mongering asshole.
Posted by frosty zoom at 04/07/2008 @ 08:44am
sorry, JM
IT'S a war-mongering asshole.
Posted by frosty zoom at 04/07/2008 @ 08:46am
I won't fight dirty in this election.
Posted by MARYBRETBRAD 04/07/2008 @ 09:04am
one down, two hundred and ninety-nine thousand, nine hundred and ninety-nine to go.
Posted by frosty zoom at 04/07/2008 @ 09:13am
But she is definitely not a "token". They people who try to smear her as such will diminish themselves, not her, and their own credibility.
Posted by MARYBRETBRAD 04/07/2008 @ 09:00am
no, ms. rice is very intelligent in a greedy, arrogant, and cruel way.
her "tokenism" is not a reflection of her critics but of her party.
Posted by frosty zoom at 04/07/2008 @ 09:15am
Of the woman who neglected to explain to President Bush the importance of a pre-9/11 intelligence briefing that suggested Osama bin Laden's followers intended to attack the United States
Johnny Nichols, please stop re-writing history with your own spin. She fully explained this during the 9-11 Commission (I believe it was)...so if he would like to do some factually accurate reporting, he could find it all there in the transcript.
Posted by usc1 at 04/07/2008 @ 09:26am
MBB
Be careful what you wish for...from what I understand, Condi is actually pretty liberal...at least from a socially (ir)responsible standpoint...pro-affirmative action, pro-choice, etc.
I say this not knowing how you stand on those particular issues...and don't mean to take away from her credentials in other areas.
Posted by usc1 at 04/07/2008 @ 09:30am
Cheney for vice pres. we need continuity.
look for Bush pardoning everyone connected with torture.
Posted by emile duBois at 04/07/2008 @ 09:47am
ED:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtK_wmVMOMg&fmt=18&fmt=18&fmt=18 (bad sound)
Posted by frosty zoom at 04/07/2008 @ 10:03am
Cohen? a dentist, an accountant yes. musician? nah
Posted by emile duBois at 04/07/2008 @ 10:12am
Frogs and Clowns
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_4WYm2NeqI
Posted by emile duBois at 04/07/2008 @ 10:18am
Posted by FROSTY ZOOM 04/07/2008 @ 09:13am
darn numbers.
Posted by frosty zoom at 04/07/2008 @ 10:47am
If here party only chooses people based on merit and not their sex or color, how does that make us guilty of toienism?
Posted by MARYBRETBRAD 04/07/2008 @ 09:17am
the HERE party, hmmmm?
Posted by frosty zoom at 04/07/2008 @ 10:48am
Posted by MARYBRETBRAD 04/07/2008 @ 09:17am
good point though. to assign blameage of tokenism to any particular group is folly for it is a universal human trait (i guess -- at least it seems to be evolving that way) and can be found wherever manipulators seek personal gainage by whitewashing (heheh) their nefarious schemeages.
humans are weird.
i wonder if squirrels do this?
Posted by frosty zoom at 04/07/2008 @ 10:56am
meanwhile, in the parallel universe:
ANTIFOXNEWSFLASH!!!
DEMOCRATANOIDS OFFER VP SLOT TO BLACKSHEEPER CONDARICEALEEZAPAPAGAN
Pundits A Buzz With Talk Of Tolkienism....
Posted by frosty zoom at 04/07/2008 @ 11:03am
great tune:
Thereafter, Smith joined the Jehovah's Witnesses. In the years following, he made several comebacks, performing as "Huey 'Piano' Smith and the Clowns", "The Hueys", "The Pitter Pats", and as "Shindig Smith and the Soul Shakers", but he has never attained his former degree of success.
Posted by frosty zoom at 04/07/2008 @ 11:10am
Posted by FROSTY ZOOM 04/07/2008 @ 11:10am | ignore this person
New Orleans music. oh that left hand.
Posted by emile duBois at 04/07/2008 @ 11:31am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCWG157DaMs&fmt=18
two great songs for the price of dsl!
Posted by frosty zoom at 04/07/2008 @ 12:02pm
Rice would be a fantastic LIAR.
don' worry, never happen
Posted by emile duBois at 04/07/2008 @ 12:02pm
Run, Condi, run....and watch the Dems squirm..
Posted by JOMAMMA 04/07/2008 @ 07:21am
Look before you leap, John.
Condi would be a terrible choice for "Maverick" John. I will grant that McCain is smart, which is why it won't happen.
The primary is over for McCain. He doesn't have to court the Bush-lovers anymore. He'll move away from Bush now and stay clear of his camp.
Posted by Hman23 at 04/07/2008 @ 12:21pm
Posted by EULER 04/07/2008 @ 11:57am
So after "eight years of Bush as President" the fantastic political choice is . . .
Bush's former Nat'l Sec. Advisor and Sec. of State????????
Come again?
Posted by Hman23 at 04/07/2008 @ 12:23pm
Posted by JOMAMMA 04/07/2008 @ 07:21am
If he runs with Condi, he loses the center. Simple as that. It's just a display of how much his campaign is exactly like Bush and that will kill him. Right now he is courting the center Independents and trying to grab some Dem's if he puts her up as veep he is dead.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 04/07/2008 @ 12:27pm
exactly which votes would Condi the Liar bring to the table? the black vote? no, someone named Obama will have that. the woman vote? the Liar vote?
Posted by emile duBois at 04/07/2008 @ 12:44pm
...has been noticed for her achievments and position first and
Posted by JOMAMMA 04/07/2008 @ 07:21am
And what achievments would those be, John? That little 'ol $300B war she helped get us into? Trust me, Democrats pray McCain makes the war the central aspect of his campaign, and can only hope Condi would be his running mate to address her "achievements."
Posted by Hman23 at 04/07/2008 @ 12:49pm
That's real funny John Nichols. She already ruled out both positions, just like Al Bore ruled out running again. But I keep forgetting you have a tough time letting go of the obvious.
Posted by ACook at 04/07/2008 @ 1:29pm
It's been a while, but I'm back to say . . . No Condi, no way.
The GOP is an exclusive club, after all. They don't let just anyone take up residence there. Please remember that when it was merely hinted that Colin Powell might run for the GOP nomination in 1994 he was greeted with death threats against him and all his family from GOP loyalists who then and now hold a strong position in the Nixon/Jim Crow tradition of the GOP "Southern Strategy." Do you think they will be any more tolerant just because Condi is placed #2 on the ticket, a heartbeat from the top job? No, no, no, no. She's okay for cleaning up after Bushy Boy's messes, like a "good Negro charwoman," but not a top political post. Never.
Here is yet another in my series of bullet-proof Nostradamian predictions: John McCain & Charlie Christ will be the GOP ticket in 2008. Bank on it. What's not to love? How can you top "WAR HERO" & "CHRIST" on the same lapel pin? This will make the right wingers salivate like Pavlov's dogs. (Besides, they're two white men, both with white hair. Perfecto!) Jesus & Johnny Mac in 2008!!! Hallelujah! Amen. May they reign for a 1000 years (in the Green Zone, anyway).
Posted by goyadad at 04/07/2008 @ 3:32pm
I hope that Condi does get chosen for the VP slot. Just imagine what that will do to all the racists who are the true base of the Republican Party. The poor bastards will poop in their pants everytime they contemplate voting for a McCain/Rice ticket. They already despise McCain for his sin of not being all the way on the psychotic end of the right wing spectrum, but to have a BLACK WOMAN one heartbeat away from the presidency would be too much to bear.
But seriously, folks, placing Condi on the ticket sounds like stupidity squared. She has built a solid reputation as a warmongering, incompetent sycophant. To think that she will draw significant numbers of blacks and women away from Barack Obama is delusional.
Posted by robgo2 at 04/07/2008 @ 3:39pm
Condi,.can't in my opinion list anything of significance that she accomplished as Natl. Security Adviser or Secertary Of State.
Posted by eniobob at 04/07/2008 @ 4:31pm
Posted by EULER 04/07/2008 @ 4:25pm | ignore this person
it is you who are wrong. the polls have been quite clear and consistent. the American people have turned against the war, with over 60% calling for an end, and branding it a failure.
to say that the anti war folks are anti war because they hate Bush is a BIG lie. what does that make you, repeating it?
Posted by emile duBois at 04/07/2008 @ 4:42pm
No one here can be more opposed to the war than I am,
this is a lie as well.
Posted by emile duBois at 04/07/2008 @ 4:43pm
McCain-Rice? Gag me with a spoon.
Posted by RLawrence at 04/07/2008 @ 4:50pm
The arguments for the invasion of Iraq were lies. All lies. All of the key figures in the administration including Rice knew they were lies. They have betrayed America, betrayed the troops, betrayed all of us. Anyone who values American democracy and takes it seriously should demand we end the occupation of Iraq.
Posted by MoPro at 04/07/2008 @ 4:59pm
!!!NO GURLZ ALLOWED!!!
Gosh, I didn't know so many of you belong to the "He-man Woman Hater's Klub" along with Spanky and Alphalfa.
This thread gets funnier by the hour.....
Posted by ACook at 04/07/2008 @ 5:01pm
Posted by MARYBRETBRAD 04/07/2008 @ 4:43pm
Uhhh not EVERYONE not even the majority are voting because of race or gender. The majority are voting because they feel they most identify with the person.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 04/07/2008 @ 6:02pm
Posted by LVLIBERTY1 04/07/2008 @ 5:07pm
Actually you are completely wrong LV. The left hate Condi because she is in with the neo-con scum running this country into the ground. It's hilarious that YOU the one who has in the past insulted people for jumping straight to typifying someone as racist now chooses to do it yourself.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 04/07/2008 @ 6:03pm
Posted by LVLIBERTY1 04/07/2008 @ 5:07pm
You call us emotional. Say that we react without thinking and just react on emotion but you automatically jump to the emotional cry of racism the SECOND we criticize Condi. Have you thought MAYBE we don't like her for the same reasons we don't like Bush after all she is apart of the same administration. Try not to be so quick to scream racist next time you are starting to sound like everything you call liberals.
Also funny that you say all liberals are racist. You make me chuckle at your ridiculousness. Keep flailing and maintaining your narrow-minded view of the world that everything is one way. That all liberals are racist and horrible and all conservatives are amazing and intelligent, because it makes you sound real intelligent when you say that to a people who aren't brainwashed.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 04/07/2008 @ 6:07pm
Haha, McCain-Rice 2008. Y'know, that would be a great strategy...for the democrats :P. Seriously, the only way to give the four more years McCain people more ammo would be to put Cheney in the Veep slot.
Posted by shadow master at 04/07/2008 @ 6:11pm
"true racists at the heart of the Republican Party"? Living out here - out of NY that is - in Detroit, all I have to do is go to some local union hall (reliably democratic this time around) to find legions of racists. Also, as depressing as it might sound to you, most Americans don't want the war in Iraq to deterioriate more, most don't want the "troops home now," and if Bush were to run again, I'm not sure he couldn't beat either Clinton or Obama. Perhaps depressing, but that's life in this shithole.
Man, take a Prozac, please. Bush has the lowest approval ratings in modern history, and Cheney's are even lower. 81% of the people think the country is moving in the wrong direction. This is a very bad time to be a Republican politician. Bush could not win a contest for dogcatcher in most American cities. (Actually, he's as unqualified for that job as he is for President of the United States.)
On the racism issue: Sure, there are racist Democrats, but it is the Republican Party that has based its election strategy upon racism for the past 30 years. Their so-called "southern strategy" is merely code for appealing to racist voters in southern states in order to secure enough electoral votes win the presidency. Well, guess what? That strategy is about to fail big-time. Poor Condi. If she truly wants to be the vice presidential candidate, it must come from some subconscious desire to be publicly humiliated and punished for her many sins.
Posted by robgo2 at 04/07/2008 @ 6:25pm
On the racism issue: Sure, there are racist Democrats, but it is the Republican Party that has based its election strategy upon racism for the past 30 years.
My error. Actually, it's been 40 years since Richard Nixon first used the southern strategy.
Posted by robgo2 at 04/07/2008 @ 7:13pm
Posted by CCCOMFO1 04/07/2008 @ 6:07pm
C3, I'm from Michigan and you can't no more racists than those folks. If you're black, brown or dirt poor, the job you qualify for is a factory job. Everything in Michigan is racist and they don't care. And they almost always vote democrat.
Posted by ACook at 04/07/2008 @ 8:14pm
Posted by ACOOK 04/07/2008 @ 8:14pm
Does that mean most or all Democrats are racists as LV implied?
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 04/07/2008 @ 10:59pm
Is no one gonna say it? Is it too much the elephant in the living room? (pun intended) Okay leave it to the queer one...
Condi Rice will not subject herself to the scrutiny of the Vice-Presidential position for one simple reason: she will have to have her personal life scrutinized. And there are more than a few rumors that Condi prefers the company of women. I personally would love to have a lesbian in the White House somewhere but as that won't win any love from the Christian Right she's better off staying in the background and accepting retirement.
Posted by yutsano at 04/07/2008 @ 11:27pm
and what's the story with that 50s straightened hair?
Posted by emile duBois at 04/08/2008 @ 10:39am
Guys- anyone interested in politics/presidential race should definitely check out http://www.savagepolitics.com Their articles are like nothing I have read in any of the current media outlets. It is brilliant writing plus it offers a great community in which to discuss. The editor actually takes time to answer and the political humor section is awesome!!!
Check out the article "We are the puppets"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://savagepolitics.com/?p=271
Posted by elsylee at 04/08/2008 @ 12:33pm
Condoleeza Rice is a war criminal. With luck and justice, warrants for her arrest will be issued before she has any chance to run for VP on a McCain ticket.
Posted by hsansom at 04/08/2008 @ 1:36pm
Emile is a great example of the arrogant racism of the left. He will vigorously deny it, while he continues to use language of Ms Rice that if it was used of Obama or a Cynthia McKinney, he would be calling conservatives every foul epitaph he can draw upon.
Liverty, I think you mean epithet. you're just not that smart, are you?
Posted by emile duBois at 04/08/2008 @ 5:36pm
epitaph is what you write on a tombstone. I would be happy to do so for you and conservatives, if called upon to do so.
Posted by emile duBois at 04/08/2008 @ 5:38pm
"The hypocrisy and bigotry is so clear in this thread."
Posted by LVLIBERTY1 04/07/2008 @ 5:07pm
Up to your usual mind-bending double-think tricks I see, LVLIVBS. You miss the point, of course: it's the GOP's own history of demagoguing race that will keep Condi off the ticket. I'm sure the right wing loons who run Redland USA, Inc. give two tinkers' damns what bloggers at The Nation think about their Veep selection.
And are you seriously saying you would settle for a third helping of Rice when you could put CHRIST on your ticket? Give me a break you silly nutcase you. It's bad when an OCD case like you loses track of his own hobbyhorses.
Posted by goyadad at 04/08/2008 @ 5:55pm
Great......go ahead McCain, and give her the nod. That way we'll have no doubt that the Republican party is toast in 08
Posted by Sherri Wong at 04/08/2008 @ 7:17pm
Got talent? Pray to Limbaugh's god and you could have this very sort of 'talent on loan from god':
Barack O'McNabb
The Magic Negro
Hitlery
Of course, you might need some funds... What would it cost to buy the support of just about every nationally-syndicated neocon talk show host in America? About $19.5 Billion, which is what Mitt Romney's private equity firm, Bain Capital, and Thomas H. Lee Partners have agreed to pay in a leveraged buyout agreement with Clear Channel Communications, the largest radio station owner in the country.
Long ago, before the end of the world began, Clear Channel's vice president Tom Hicks helped make G.W. a multimillionaire, and by proxy made Rush a predatory parasite. Three hours a day...
Posted by winyahn at 04/08/2008 @ 8:44pm
..."I believe the title of the brief was, 'Osama Bin Laden Determined To Attack Within The United States.'" - Ms. Rice
Posted by NoHubris at 04/09/2008 @ 03:26am
Leave it the GOP to find a way to use class and race to divide the country.
Posted by chendri887 at 04/09/2008 @ 04:47am
Er, race and gender, I mean.
Posted by chendri887 at 04/09/2008 @ 04:50am
Condi on the ticket might gather the black lesbian republican vote.
Posted by emile duBois at 04/09/2008 @ 11:27am
Condi Rice only looks good as a VP "on paper". Superficially, one can say she is a woman and black, and could therefore draw votes away from Democrats. Upon closer examination, however, she is just another Republican hack WHO DOES WHAT SHE IS TOLD TO DO! She has not ONE idea of her own that she has pursued, and has been virtually ignored by all of the "real" players in the Bush Administration.
Her belated bid to bring peace to Middle East illustrates the fundamental political weakness of Condi Rice. Waiting until the final year of the second term to negotiate a major peace deal with Israel and the Palestianians, which should have been negotiated in the "first" year of the first term, and caving in to right-wing Likud demands that democratically elected Hamas be excluded from the negotiations, shows a lack of political ability, insight and strength.
Condi Rice is very much "a token black" in a Republican administration, much like "Silent Sam" - Samuel Pierce - who was groomed by party elders to be the quiet one who simply goes along with the agenda pushed by others in exchange for "prominence" as a black face in the circles of Republican power.
Posted by Metteyya at 04/09/2008 @ 2:43pm
I have given money to a certain Democrat candidate TWICE. McCain picks Condi for VP and I will switch to him right away. No hesitation!
Posted by nanaterra at 04/09/2008 @ 3:43pm
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/action/ignore.mhtml?who=nanaterra
how 'bout if he picks Snoop Dog?
Posted by emile duBois at 04/09/2008 @ 4:47pm
Condi is Chevron OIL corporation's whore...
Condi is Bush's whore...
Now, Condi wants to be McCain's whore...
Condi is nothing more than a neo-con whore-- willing to betray 'We the People' for the sake of self-promotion & wealth...
What has Condi accomplished in her pathetic term in office:
1.) As the worst National Security Adviser in our nation's history-- she fondled her "husband" Bush, the neo-con nitwit, whilst choking on pretzels, and ignorning warnings that our nation was about to be attacked on 9/11;
2.) As the "Head of the Iraqi Stabilization Group" appointed by her dim-witted "hubby" in October 2003, Rice went on a shopping spree for shoes & high-fashion, whilst supporting the torture, rape & murder of innocent Iraqis & Afghanistanis -- and whilst Iraq devolved into chaos;
3.) As an incompetent Secretary of State-- Rice is obsessed with photo-ops, whilst looking clownish in her fashion-victim outfits, Rice has pandered to the neo-fascist Likud party & gotten free around-the-world trips on the taxpayer's "dime" [sic]-- and, has accomplished nothing. Rice is the laughing stock of the diplomatic corps-- and considered a clown by world leaders who joke about her self-aggrandizement in private.
Rice should be put on trial for treason along with her pimps:-- Bush, Cheney, Rove and Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Feith, et. al.-- all traitors and creeps.
The corporate-owned media toadies may salivate because they are not that bright-- and love the fact that a black woman wears expensive clothes-- but they are ignorant of her incompetence, corruption, and sheer sluttishness.
The thought of slut-Rice & senile-McCain should be cause for Americans to shudder.
Posted by Emily_B_W at 04/09/2008 @ 9:48pm
Spicy post Emily! All you ever hear about is how close she and Bush are. When, how did this come about? Condin must have been able to effectively promise to play this role very early on... I don't get it. I hoped she would show some LOGIC, COURAGE, but nope. There's just not much to go on, because on papers his smart and driven. Rove/Cheney must have done well, must have squashed any remnants of independence. And perhaps you're really on to something in terms of narcissism and hunger for power.
Posted by winyahn at 04/10/2008 @ 12:14am
Why aren't the Mad King George and his Squalid Queen Condi under indictment for war crimes & crimes against humanity? Clearly, they and the court jesters Cheney, Rumsfeld, et. al. are guilty.
It is absurd, in the extreme, that anyone could discuss (unless it's farce) Condi as VP. She isn't fit to wipe toilets in Wal Mart.
Refer to:--
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/ABC_Bush_advisors_had_role_in_0409.html
..."...President George W. Bush's most senior advisers approved "enhanced interrogation techniques" of top al-Qaeda suspects by the Central Intelligence Agency, ABC News reported on Wednesday (see video below), citing sources it did not name.
ABC reported that the so-called "principals" discussed interrogation details in dozens of top-secret talks and meetings in the White House.
Then-national security adviser Condoleezza Rice chaired the meetings, which took place in the White House Situation Room and were typically attended by a select group of senior officials or their deputies, ABC said.
"Highly placed sources said a handful of top advisers signed off on how the CIA would interrogate top al Qaeda suspects -- whether they would be slapped, pushed, deprived of sleep or subjected to simulated drowning, called waterboarding," ABC reported.
In addition to Rice, the principals at the time included Vice President Cheney, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Secretary of State Colin Powell, CIA Director George Tenet and Attorney General John Ashcroft, the report said. ..."...
Continued on:-- http://rawstory.com/news/2008/ABC_Bush_advisors_had_role_in_0409.html
...
In the event that McCain considers Rice as VP, he should be disqualified on the grounds of derangement & senility. It's pretty obvious that he's already suffering from the latter.
Posted by Emily_B_W at 04/10/2008 @ 11:12am
Posted by EMILY_B_W 04/10/2008 @ 11:12am | ignore this person
you're being awfully hard on the girl.
she coulda been Paderewski.
Posted by emile duBois at 04/10/2008 @ 11:28am
Nicholas von Hoffman -- The Nation 13 February, 2008
'...With Rice on the ticket, the GOP would have somebody to get enthusiastic about. The Secretary of State is immensely popular with Republicans. For a party that up to now has been clueless about how to run against either a woman or a person of color, Condoleezza Rice is pure political gold.
Woe to any Democrat who thinks taking her on in a debate is a sure thing. The woman is tough, fast on her feet and able to give better than she gets. Anyone who has seen her in action testifying in front of a hostile House or Senate committee knows that she will be able to wipe up the floor with a plodding, ordinary pol of a Democratic vice-presidential candidate. Take Rice lightly at your peril.
In the ordinary course of things the ideal vice-presidential candidate is relied upon to carry his or her home state and keep out of trouble. With Condi the GOP gets a lot more. It gets a superstar to match the Democrats' superstars. If it comes to name recognition, glamour and magnetism for conservatives, Condi is dandy. Also, it is a plus for the GOP team that she is a snappy dresser.
Rice's presence on the ticket deprives the Democrats of the we-are-more-diverse-than-thou argument. It makes McCain--whose ethnically diverse family includes an adopted daughter from Bangladesh--an even more attractive candidate for a certain kind of independent voter. ...
With Rice on the ticket the Republicans are freed up to run a much stronger negative campaign against either Clinton or Obama because the Secretary of State provides them with cover against charges of sexism or racism. They would be able to go after Obama's membership in Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ. Its minister, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., with whom Obama is close, has won himself the militant tag from conservatives because of his association with Nation of Islam leader the Rev. Louis Farrakhan. ...'
Posted by HonestLiberal at 04/10/2008 @ 3:55pm
yeah, like the American people are gonna elect one of those who swindled us into the war, which is, in case you haven't heard, deeply unpopular.
Posted by emile duBois at 04/10/2008 @ 5:56pm