One week later, it's clear that Americans heard The Speech.
About 3.8 million people have now watched Barack Obama's Philadelphia address through the campaign's official YouTube channel, which has over 40,000 subscribers. "It is the highest viewed video ever uploaded by a presidential candidate to YouTube, surpassing Mike Huckabee's Chuck Norris endorsement video," says Steve Grove, who directs News and Politics for YouTube. Aside from the Obama channel, which promotes videos through blogs, news sites and supporter networks, another 520,000 people watched excerpts of the speech uploaded by random YouTube users. Taken together, the total YouTube viewers for Obama's speech over the past week beat all the cable channels combined. Last Tuesday, about four million viewers tuned into one of the three cable channels to watch the speech.
This is not the first time that Obama's YouTube audience has rivaled cable news. His second most popular video ever, a rebuttal to President Bush's final State of the Union, drew 1.3 million views. The President's actual address reached 3.2 million homes through a Fox News broadcast, making it the seventh highest program on cable that week. It is not a direct comparison, since the Presidential address is widely promoted and broadcast on many stations. Yet without the bully pulpit of the White House and its built-in television coverage -- or the high cost of campaign ads -- a candidate can now reach supporters and interested voters with unfiltered, even substantive addresses.
Of course, Obama's most popular YouTube video was itself a response to videos of Jeremiah Wright that had riveted cable news and YouTube. "If it wasn't for the replaying of Wright's remarks on YouTube, Obama wouldn't have been forced to give the speech on race in the first place," contends Slate's John Dickerson, yet "Obama decried the YouTube era of politics that reduces everyone to small, grainy clips endlessly replayed on cable news." But YouTube, just like television, depends on the programming. Salacious clips can always draw viewers. What is remarkable here is the overwhelming public demand for deeper, unfiltered campaign information -- regardless of who voters support. So Obama was not decrying the "YouTube era of politics" in his speech, as Dickerson argues, so much as the way that political brawling and cable bickering become the lowest common denominator of our entire public discourse:
For we have a choice in this country. We can accept a politics that breeds division, and conflict, and cynicism.. We can play Reverend Wright's sermons on every channel, every day and talk about them from now until the election, and make the only question in this campaign whether or not the American people think that I somehow believe or sympathize with his most offensive words. We can pounce on some gaffe by a Hillary supporter as evidence that she's playing the race card...We can do that. But if we do, I can tell you that in the next election, we'll be talking about some other distraction. And then another one. And then another one. And nothing will change. That is one option. Or, at this moment, in this election, we can come together and say, 'Not this time'...
Millions of people heard that appeal on television, and millions more heard it on YouTube. Bill Burton, Obama's spokesman, told me that the campaign embraces web outreach to route around the television filter, and rather than assail YouTube politics, Obama "was speaking to the ease with which political opponents can unfairly splice quotes and how quickly they are circulated and on television news." Apparently the campaign thinks that a higher road is possible for YouTube politics, just like regular politics, if you give it a chance.
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except for a few dumbass dittohead types few trust the msm much anymore and less trust the principal mouthpiece of the right, fauxnews...so...
wright's no big deal. bump in the road.
thanks, internet!
Posted by ibbleblibble at 03/25/2008 @ 3:04pm
Ibble's right. People around here talked about Wright for a couple of hours, then went back to talking about the price of gas (always a favorite), the economy and the war. These three items are always discussed in random order. Today our gas in this part of VA is $3.20 a gallon. Yikes!
Posted by FritztheCat at 03/25/2008 @ 3:07pm
Posted by FRITZTHECAT 03/25/2008 @ 3:07pm | ignore this person
and it probably is never going down. much.
so eventually inflation becomes a serious problem, which presents another dilemma...the repugnant's only solution to any economic problem, lowering the prime interest rate...will soon become impossible (as interest rates must invariably be higher than the rate of inflation).
add a treasury draining war, unregulated out of control finance industry and we're in for some good times to come!
thanks, neocons! geniuses...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 03/25/2008 @ 3:20pm
This Obama phenomenon on the Internet is yet another reason why the Net must be privatized. It's out of control. Corporate direction is needed, clearly, it's the only rational answer, the only alternative to ... anarchy.
Right?
Posted by sloper at 03/25/2008 @ 3:36pm
Posted by LVLIBERTY1 03/25/2008 @ 3:54pm | ignore this person
well you can have all the regulatory agencies you want, but when you staff them with industry reps of the entities they are supposed to regulate (on detatched gov duty with juicy stock options, perks, and industry jobs awaiting upon the end of their detached gov duty), so what?
these satanic, corrupt, neocons have stuffed every regulatory agency in the federal government with such detached duty industry types as well as a legion of college republican kommisars, sons and daughters of rightwing wealthy donors, and unqualified scoundrels on a level unprecedented since the civil service reforms of the progressive era!
so sure...have all the laws and regulations you want - these guys won't enforce them!!!
Posted by ibbleblibble at 03/25/2008 @ 4:02pm
Ahh, Mr Melber and his "power of the Internet"....is there NOTHING that thang, canna do?!?!?!??
heheh
Posted by Mask at 03/25/2008 @ 4:07pm
Posted by IBBLEBLIBBLE 03/25/2008 @ 4:02pm
Actually, IBB, I'm sure LVLIB will tell us that the Securities & Exchange Commission are outside the bounds of the Constitution and the 8th Amendment!
Posted by Mask at 03/25/2008 @ 4:08pm
Correction..."Article One, Section 8"
Posted by Mask at 03/25/2008 @ 4:09pm
Posted by MASK 03/25/2008 @ 4:09pm | ignore this person
one of them articles and sections should do, i suppose...lol...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 03/25/2008 @ 4:20pm
Posted by IBBLEBLIBBLE 03/25/2008 @ 4:20pm |
Well, the creation of the SEC is considered part of Roosevelt's New Deal...
so I'm sure LVLIB considers it part of the "socialist agenda"!
Posted by Mask at 03/25/2008 @ 4:31pm
Posted by MASK 03/25/2008 @ 4:31pm | ignore this person
oh fdr? commernist bastard!!!! lol...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 03/25/2008 @ 5:15pm
Talk about a hoax,I see John McCain is telling people who are having problems with for foreclosures to go "love" yourself.
Posted by eniobob at 03/25/2008 @ 5:16pm
what happened to LVLIBERTY's 3:54 post? its gone as well as two of my posts on the previous blog entry? this is getting wierd.
Posted by ibbleblibble at 03/25/2008 @ 6:07pm
what happened to LVLIBERTY's 3:54 post? its gone as well as two of my posts on the previous blog entry? this is getting wierd.
Posted by IBBLEBLIBBLE 03/25/2008 @ 6:07
That happened when LibzSuk got kicked, but I can't imagine LVL doing something so egregious to warrant that. However there are Swiss cheese LVL holes all over the board, so I dunno.
Posted by yutsano at 03/25/2008 @ 6:37pm
Posted by YUTSANO 03/25/2008 @ 6:37pm | ignore this person
i mean - i disagree with LL on almost every point, but he's generally a hell of a lot more polite than i am and...you know? and i'm still seeing libsux' posts...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 03/25/2008 @ 6:43pm
Here Here. If the Nation actually wants a blog, they need to fix some of the problems with the website. First there should be an edit option of a previous post and also easier to use Bold, Italic, html, an option to hide links in a word, etc...
But most of all do not censor people unless they clearly, and I mean clearly are trolling. Perhaps make it to where you have a one day cooling off period, where by you are not allowed to post until one day has past on you activated account.
I hope that it was a glitch that edited out LVLIBERTY1 and not censorship...
Posted by Tzimisce at 03/25/2008 @ 7:39pm
Also consider the fact that Happy gets banned, but LIBZ takes forever to get the boot, seriously how many times do I have to read: Barack Osama or any other permutation of racism (also his use of the word "half-breed").
Posted by Tzimisce at 03/25/2008 @ 7:40pm
Posted by LVLIBERTY1 03/25/2008 @ 7:32pm | ignore this person
its not making sense - i think you are right - it must be a jinx.
Posted by ibbleblibble at 03/25/2008 @ 7:41pm
Posted by TZIMISCE 03/25/2008 @ 7:39pm | ignore this person
i think there is some kind of glitch - but good suggestions about changes...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 03/25/2008 @ 7:46pm
okashina ne...
At any rate we're drifting. Obama is still garnering a huge amount of attention and folks are doing their own research, and I consider that healthy. This Internet thing is a doozy while it lasts as a free medium huh?
Posted by yutsano at 03/25/2008 @ 7:47pm
Posted by YUTSANO 03/25/2008 @ 7:47pm
It's free?!?!??!
I'm paying my cable guys a pretty nice monthly rate.
Posted by Mask at 03/25/2008 @ 7:53pm
The thin veil of a coalition was a Cheney Rove Rumsfeld Bush vintage spin... so this goes to show how hollow another spin is, e.g., that the NYT is liberal.
Posted by winyahn at 03/25/2008 @ 9:35pm
I suspect the beheading videos have many more views than Obama's speech.
Show me a person who thinks people only watch videos of things they find pleasant, and I'll show you one naive mofo!
Posted by bleedingheart at 03/25/2008 @ 9:38pm
MASK Is there more to your call to stop criticizing Fox than you said in the past? You've stated that criticism won't change anything, that no one will be persuaded for or against Fox, etc. I totally agree, just think the same points could be made about many other topics.
Posted by winyahn at 03/25/2008 @ 9:43pm
Good biz this politics biz. You just wonder if people scramble to get into it just for a living. Read this piece.
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Obama's tax returns show leap in income The family's best year came in 2005 with a combined income of $1.6 million
Jim Popkin, Senior Investigative Producer, NBC News
WASHINGTON - The tax returns for Sen. Barack Obama and his wife, Michelle, offer new insights into the power couple's rising fortunes. They chronicle the candidate's rise from state legislator to U.S. senator and beyond.
The tax returns are dated between 2000 and 2006, showing a steep increase in family income.
Posted by HelenDAO at 03/25/2008 @ 9:57pm
Posted by WINYAHN 03/25/2008 @ 9:43pm
I just see it as a waste of time. Fox fans aren't going to be switched; neither are the opponents (or whatever term you want)...and there are few in the middle who can be influenced either to watch or not watch.
It's like the Right bitchin' about the "liberal media" (NY Times, CNN, etc.)....it wasted their time except for maybe the fact they eventually figured out they needed to make their own network.
So...where's Soros with a couple hundred mill to start up the "liberal Fox"???
Posted by Mask at 03/25/2008 @ 10:00pm
Posted by HELENDAO 03/25/2008 @ 9:57pm
So, Bill and Hill are just "scraping by"?
Maybe they spent all their money on bulletproof vests for all that "sniper fire" in Bosnia???
heheh
Posted by Mask at 03/25/2008 @ 10:01pm
So...where's Soros with a couple hundred mill to start up the "liberal Fox"???
Posted by MASK 03/25/2008 @ 10:00pm | ignore this person
the nation news network?
Posted by ibbleblibble at 03/25/2008 @ 10:19pm
the nation news network?---Posted by IBBLEBLIBBLE 03/25/2008 @ 10:19pm
Oh, Lord. Ms vanden Heuvel discussing "Idol" on "Entertainment NATION"....
John Nichols Predicts (a la Criswell..."I see impeachment of Bush...and Moon Cities by the year 2004!!!)...
Peter Rothberg with the "Protest of the Week"...
and Ari Melber in "Tech Corner" with how to upgrade to a 20 Mb download for faster "netroots activism"!!
Posted by Mask at 03/25/2008 @ 10:39pm
Posted by MASK 03/25/2008 @ 10:39pm | ignore this person
lol - at least they would be up front about their political orientation...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 03/25/2008 @ 11:04pm
Posted by MARKCANYON 03/25/2008 @ 10:58pm | ignore this person
nazi...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 03/25/2008 @ 11:04pm
Obama: tell me who's pastor and I will tell who you are.
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Clinton: Wright would not have been my pastorStory Highlights "You choose what church you want to attend," Sen. Hillary Clinton tells newspaper
(CNN) -- Sen. Hillary Clinton would have long ago distanced herself from the Rev. Jeremiah Wright if she had been a member of his church, the Democratic presidential candidate said Tuesday.
Hillary Rodham Clinton speaks at the University of Pittsburgh in Greensburg, Pennsylvania, Tuesday.
It's the first time she or her campaign has commented directly on a controversy that has swirled around rival Sen. Barack Obama's campaign in recent weeks.
Posted by HelenDAO at 03/25/2008 @ 11:45pm
Posted by MASK 03/25/2008 @ 10:01pm
Well, let me tell you if Obama holds so high moral precepts, would he get into this profitable biz? Nope.
Posted by HelenDAO at 03/25/2008 @ 11:47pm
Posted by ZERO 03/25/2008 @ 11:42pm | ignore this person
i just relish the opportunity to accurately call someone a nazi without invoking whatshisface's rule about losing the argument by calling someone a nazi.
its like...whatever he says, all one has to do is this...
Posted by MARKCANYON 03/25/2008 @ 10:58pm | ignore this person
nazi...
Posted by IBBLEBLIBBLE 03/25/2008 @ 11:04pm | ignore
see?
funny aside - once i logged on here and didn't see any of my posts - freaked out wondering what the hell i could have said...then realized i had hit the ignore button on myself by accident...lol...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 03/25/2008 @ 11:58pm
Well, let me tell you if Obama holds so high moral precepts, would he get into this profitable biz? Nope.
Posted by HELENDAO 03/25/2008 @ 11:47pm
what?
Posted by ibbleblibble at 03/26/2008 @ 12:00am
Smart guy this Obama! he wants to run away from his mentor pastor by challenging Hillary on who have more money for the race! Why wouldn't Hillary tell him to shut up. How bout his Muslim roots and cocaine use and other shadowy dealings?
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Obama presses Clinton on finances
The Obamas' joint income has risen dramatically since 2005 Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama has published seven years of tax returns on his website and urged his rival, Hillary Clinton, to do the same.
Mr Obama's spokesman said he hoped the release of tax returns would encourage her to let people "see her finances" before the key primary in Pennsylvania.
Mrs Clinton said she hoped to release her tax returns "within the next week".
Posted by HelenDAO at 03/26/2008 @ 12:15am
Posted by HELENDAO 03/26/2008 @ 12:15am | ignore this person
"muslim roots"? do you, like ms. clinton, lie knowingly, or do you believe others' lies?
you are a sleazy liar, dao. go insert yourself inside yourself...i'm sick of being decent to you and being repaid by your evil lies.
Posted by ibbleblibble at 03/26/2008 @ 12:23am
I will NOT vote for Hagee or Wright or Doug Coe!
Posted by winyahn at 03/26/2008 @ 12:34am
heehee...the hilly/bosnia lie is getting LOTS of play on tv...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 03/26/2008 @ 12:43am
the rev. wright footage will get lots of play on tv till kingdom come...Obama will never win. We really should start supporting a candidate who can win: Evita.
Posted by nursevic at 03/26/2008 @ 01:08am
Cheney won. Did you vote for him?
Tomas Young, an Iraq war veteran who was paralyzed after being shot in Baghdad said, "Many of us volunteered with patriotic feelings in our heart, only to see them subverted and bastardized by the administration and sent into the wrong country.
Posted by winyahn at 03/26/2008 @ 01:29am
We really should start supporting a candidate who can win: Evita.
Posted by NURSEVIC 03/26/2008 @ 01:08am
Eva Peron, to my recollection, was never elected to any public office in Argentina. So if you're talking about Hillary being a first lady with a cult of personality a mile wide, feel free. But comparing her to a woman who rode on the back of a powerful husband was quite delicious.
:: cues Andrew Lloyd Webber :: "Don't Dry For Me Argentina"
Posted by yutsano at 03/26/2008 @ 02:12am
It's free?!?!??!
I'm paying my cable guys a pretty nice monthly rate.
Posted by MASK 03/25/2008 @ 7:53pm
Well...free as in the liberated sense (and thanks for reminding me I need to yell at Verizion for the CRAP they call DSL!).
Posted by yutsano at 03/26/2008 @ 02:15am
Well...free as in the liberated sense (and thanks for reminding me I need to yell at Verizion for the CRAP they call DSL!).
Posted by YUTSANO 03/26/2008 @ 02:15am
Don't you hate the Telephone companies. I don't like that there is no real selection in telephone or cable companies. If you live in a certain area you can only subscribe to one. Hate it.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 03/26/2008 @ 03:08am
Chilly-Hilly to Monica-3! Chilly-Hilly to Monica-3!
I'm being fired upon! Repeat I'm being fired upon!
Call in the 7th graders & Alert the media!
Posted by CHIP THORNTON at 03/26/2008 @ 08:51am
Obama is more of a leader than the so called leaders are leaders. I've never seen anything like this
Carol
Posted by harriscrl3 at 03/26/2008 @ 09:04am
It's funny that the right continues to characterize Wright as a hateful, radical lunatic. The far-right really does have no self-awareness at all.
Posted by freeminded at 03/26/2008 @ 09:10am
well, they stopped calling Obama a muslim. self canceling swift boating.
Posted by emile duBois at 03/26/2008 @ 09:17am
Posted by FREEMINDED 03/26/2008 @ 09:10am
BOTH sides have their wacko preachers...and unfortunately, both sides have their APOLOGISTS for wacko preachers.
Posted by Mask at 03/26/2008 @ 09:18am
Selected excerpts from Microsoft Encarta Encyclopedia:
‘…The influence of his newspaper, his public speaking ability, his friendly personality, and his interest in public affairs brought Harding to the attention of local and state politicians. …
In the Senate, Harding's warm nature, his conservative principles, and the fact that he represented a politically important state strengthened his political position, but Harding's record was undistinguished. He routinely supported the conservative policies of the Republican leadership. He favored a high protective tariff, …
On May 14, 1920, Harding announced that the nation needed "not nostrums but normalcy." The slogan "return to normalcy" expressed the yearning of some Americans for the unrestrained free enterprise, the untaxed incomes, and the high import tariffs of the past. It also meant a nation isolated from troublesome world affairs or, as Harding put it, "not submergence in internationality but sustainment in triumphant nationality." The Democrats naturally disagreed with Harding's views. William Gibbs McAdoo, secretary of the treasury from 1913 to 1918, summed up their reaction by calling Harding's speeches "an army of pompous phrases moving over the landscape in search of an idea." ...
In his few campaign speeches, Harding relied mainly on the political effectiveness of bland generalities. Sometimes his statements were deliberately confusing. …The best-known accomplishment of the Harding administration in foreign affairs was an international disarmament meeting, the Washington Conference, held in Washington, D.C., in 1921 and 1922. …'
Posted by HonestLiberal at 03/26/2008 @ 09:42am
Posted by HONESTLIBERAL 03/26/2008 @ 09:42am | ignore this person
Harding's victory has been often attributed to the fact that it was the first election that women were allowed to vote, thank you Founding fathers. he was a nice looking guy, and that was all.
Posted by emile duBois at 03/26/2008 @ 09:52am
Posted by HONESTLIBERAL 03/26/2008 @ 09:42am
Again, mentioned this on the other thread...
Anybody ever seen anything that HL has actually TYPED....or just Cut & Pasted?
Posted by Mask at 03/26/2008 @ 10:05am
"In his few campaign speeches, Harding relied mainly on the effectiveness of bland generalities. Sometimes his statements were deliberately confusing." Sometimes he accused chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament.
Posted by Benchrest at 03/26/2008 @ 10:51am
Posted by BENCHREST 03/26/2008 @ 10:51am
I also hear Harding claimed to be the Princess of Canada....but he didn't really have paperwork to back that up!
Posted by Mask at 03/26/2008 @ 10:55am
Mask, where's Frosty? I know you are loathe to adress new posters, but he has been gone a long time. Inconsistent with his past. Surely he gave you some idea as to why he was going to drop off the face of the planet. Blog is'nt the same without him.
Posted by Benchrest at 03/26/2008 @ 11:43am
Posted by NURSEVIC 03/26/2008 @ 01:08am | ignore this person
evita? oh yeah! lets follow the example of argentinian politics! a few powerful families revolving dooring in and out of power, loyalty to person over hardnosed critical thinking on the part of the voter...
yeah, VIC, thats real PROGRESS!
Posted by ibbleblibble at 03/26/2008 @ 11:48am
Posted by BENCHREST 03/26/2008 @ 11:43am
Well, first, I'm not "loathe to adress new poster"...IF they stick around...unlike the Hillary Troll Of The Day.
Second, dunno about my ol' bud FROSTY...kinda worried too. But he may be on the road with his band in Canuckistan and can't get to a computer.
Posted by Mask at 03/26/2008 @ 12:18pm
Posted by MASK 03/26/2008 @ 12:18pm
I hope you're right.
I like Mr. Zoom.
Posted by drhammer at 03/26/2008 @ 1:05pm
don't worry about frosty...check out the last thread - or just read this...
did frosty get banned? now i'm getting paranoid...
Posted by IBBLEBLIBBLE 03/25/2008 @ 6:28pm
nope.
just taking a news vacation.
Posted by FROSTY ZOOM 03/26/2008 @ 11:01am
Posted by ibbleblibble at 03/26/2008 @ 1:17pm
Posted by BENCHREST 03/26/2008 @ 11:43am | ignore this person
sometimes you gotta take a break. too much posting here is "uncool"...lol...
sometimes i just find myself with nothing much to say and therefore say nothing for a while...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 03/26/2008 @ 1:21pm
IBBLEBLIBBLE, you were correct and called it the other day. I'll learn to listen. Thanks.
Posted by Benchrest at 03/26/2008 @ 2:01pm
Posted by BENCHREST 03/26/2008 @ 2:01pm | ignore this person
benchrest - i'm almost always correct (hee hee har har) - what specifically was i correct about this time?
Posted by ibbleblibble at 03/26/2008 @ 2:17pm
Why Frosty was AWOL.
Posted by Benchrest at 03/26/2008 @ 2:27pm
I haven't posted in a bit but I can't help but rain on this parade a little bit. Its true that the Wright thing isn't going to stop Obama in the primaries, but to think that this isn't going to be an issue in the general election is nonesense. I supported Obama only because I saw him as more of an economic patriot then Mccain, and I still think this. However, when he belonged for DECADES to a church that claims, among other things, that Israel and South Africa developed AIDS and a bomb that would only kill black people, that whites "owe" blacks for all sorts of things, and that "god damns america", it MUST have an impact on him being president. I like Gunter Grass, the german novelist, and I still do, even after hearing he was some sort of SS man. I wouldn't, however, vote for him to be president. (even if he was american".
It might be time to take another look at Hillary...
Posted by Stubine at 03/26/2008 @ 5:08pm
Posted by STUBINE 03/26/2008 @ 5:08pm
Ignoring the fact that he works with, associates with an befriends and calls family white people. No body cares about this. I guess his befriending white people is all just a calculated act.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 03/26/2008 @ 5:29pm
Wright or wrong. By Nov, we'll be in such a deep economic crisis that the Democratic Party will roll over the GOP ... provided the Dems don't destroy themselves between now & the convention.
Hence, a large reason for Billary's desperate behavior. President Obama will relegate Billary to the sidelines permanently.
Posted by sloper at 03/26/2008 @ 6:02pm
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/action/ignore.mhtml?who=Stubine
you really think that there will be a second go round for this tripe?
I don't. the only ones paying attention to this are those who would not vote for Obama anyway.
don't forget, he is POPULAR.that has not changed. he will deal with the old old soldier the way he has dealt with Hill, calm, rationally.
if that's the best they got, he and we needn't worry.
the country is ready for change. the old old soldier cannot provide it. he's running on business as usual. Hill too cannot provide it, she is part of the past, we cannot go back to the 90s, her time.
the primary is for all practical purposes over. everyone knows it. the dems are not going to throw away the guy with the votes and the delegates, and the CROWDS. the people have indicated quite clearly, the direction they will go in.
allow me one more example. there are millions and millions of catholics around the world. faithful church goers, yet they ignore the pontiff on birth control among other issues. the pontiff rails on and on, but he is ignored. I imagine it's the same with Wright. he is ignored by a great many of his flock, Obama included.
the irony is of course that first Obama wasn't a christian, but now he's the wrong kind of christian. they'll no doubt trot out the muslim thing again and again, but in vain.
Posted by emile duBois at 03/26/2008 @ 6:09pm
President Obama will relegate Billary to the sidelines permanently.
Posted by SLOPER 03/26/2008 @ 6:02pm | ignore this person
of course. the loser is not in the winner's circle.
she does not bring to the table voters he doesn't already have.Richardson would be a good bet, provided he lose the mustache.
Posted by emile duBois at 03/26/2008 @ 6:12pm