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There's a primary today in Mississippi, but, like Wyoming, nobody's talking about it. Partly that's because of Spitzergate. And partly that's because Obama is heavily favored to carry the Magnolia State. According to the Clinton campaign, Mississippi is just one of those small, red states that doesn't matter.

So here's a few things you should know:

--40 delegates (33 pledged and 7 super) are at stake, more than New Hampshire, Nevada and New Mexico, to name a few states that garnered quite a bit of media coverage.

--At the primary in '04, voters were 58 percent female and 56 percent black. According to Ben Smith, "Some Obama supporters have made the case that he could energize black voters to the extent that he could put Mississippi in play in a general election, though that math is still tough." The last poll showed Obama up on Clinton, 54 to 38 percent.

--Democrats will choose challengers for two open House seats, one of which they consider a legitimate pick-up opportunity.

--Clinton has already moved on to campaigning in Pennsylvania, which doesn't vote for another five weeks. So has much of the press corps. That tells you about everything you need to know.

Comments (50)

1. Hillary put down Mississippi because she figured she would be the nominee by now and had no long term plan in case something unexpected happened, like Obama being popular.We need a president who knows that the unexpected can happen and is prepared for that,but Hillary was not prepared.

   Posted by i'm nobody at 03/11/2008 @ 11:25am

2. That tells you about everything you need to know.

   Yep. The media is a fickle beast, isn't it? :)

   Posted by FritztheCat at 03/11/2008 @ 11:26am

3. Of course, Mississippi will join the long list of states that, from the perspective of the Clinton campaign, don't count. Wyoming didn't count because it was a "red state". Main stream media repeatedly write that Obama is favored in Mississippi because of its "high black population" (could it be that the majority of Mississippi VOTERS, regardless of race, favor Obama?). Thus, Mississippi is an "expected win" for Obama, which somehow makes it less significant in the minds of pundits. I suppose if you're Clinton and you opponent is winning two-thirds of the states in the union by large margins, you have to alter that reality and create the illusion that only California, New York, Texas, and Ohio count.

   Posted by Be Good at 03/11/2008 @ 11:35am

4. The last poll showed Obama up on Clinton, 54 to 38 percent.---Posted by Ari Berman at 03/11/2008 @ 11:15am

   Which means the Clinton folks will predict "She'll probably lose it by 70-30%"...so they can claim she "did better than expected" when she only loses 60-40%!

   Posted by Mask at 03/11/2008 @ 11:38am

5. Posted by HAPPY 03/11/2008 @ 11:26am

   So when's that "Condi as McCain's Veep" announcement that McCain so ....DEPERATELY needs, if Obama is the nominee?

   Posted by Mask at 03/11/2008 @ 11:39am

6. So when's that "Condi as McCain's Veep" announcement...

   Posted by MASK 03/11/2008 @ 11:39am

   Long odds on Condi......and no matter who, it'll be a while....keeps the Repubs in the news....speculating about the VP slot, no? Damn, I'm so good, I ought to advise somebody....maybe even Obama.....!

   Hey, any campaigns out there.....HAPPY is available at 1/10 what Mark Penn cost!

   Posted by Happy at 03/11/2008 @ 11:48am

7. keeps the Repubs in the news....Posted by HAPPY 03/11/2008 @ 11:48am

   It does? Uh, where?

   Posted by Mask at 03/11/2008 @ 11:58am

8. Its sad that the MSM plays Clinton's games. As a black person it seriously offends me the way the Clinton camp tries to minimize the black vote. As an educated person it seriously offends me the way the Clinton camp tries to minimize the educated vote. As a young person it seriously offends me the way the Clinton camp tries to minimize the young vote. As an American it seriously offends me the way the Clinton camp tries to minimize any vote, PERIOD. Hillary supporters, take an honest look back at this campaign: has Obama ever minimized a vote he lost? No. He retools and tries to get his message to those people.

   Mississippi is in play in November. What's not in play is California and New York. Those states are the democrats to lose. Question: how many California's equal formerly red states in play???

   Posted by rasalula at 03/11/2008 @ 12:02pm

9. Well,...here, of course, Condi's face was rather prominent yesterday on Drudge:

   The Veepstakes

   There's an obvious winner.

   by Fred Barnes

   03/17/2008, Volume 013, Issue 26

   When John McCain begins his search for a vice presidential running mate,.......

   Posted by Happy at 03/11/2008 @ 12:09pm

10. Geez, some are so easily "offended", no wonder Client #9 is such a big story!

    Posted by Happy at 03/11/2008 @ 12:11pm

11. It looks like Hillary actually lost Texas and has lost in Wyoming and will probably lose Mississippi.No momentum there.

    Posted by i'm nobody at 03/11/2008 @ 12:19pm

12. I support Senator Obama for President of the United States for many reasons, but speaking in this thread about Mississippi's Democratic Party primary, it does seem probable that his long-term strategy of campaigning and organizing in many "small" states has proven sound. Senator You-Know-Her's campaign, by contrast blew the game from the very first in Iowa and never sufficiently recovered. Her desultory, pro-forma "campaigning" in Mississippi for only a day or two will most likely reap the disdain that many American voters regularly express in rejecting her arrogance and sense of entitled presumption.

    Having said that, though, the proportional system that now works in Senator Obama's favor, works also to some degree for You-Know-Her, no matter how little time and effort she has put into seriously contesting Mississippi. With 40 delegates at stake, a 60% win by Obama gives him 24 delegates, while a 40% loss by You-Know-Her gives Senator Clinton 16 delegates -- a net gain of only 8 delegates for Sentator Obama. As much as I despise Buffaloed Girl and everything she represents, I can still understand why she might not want to put too many scarce resources into a primary where she will not do too badly no matter how little she even tries. Her essential argument that she deserves the Democratic Party nomination because Senator Obama has not beaten her SUFFICIENTLY BADLY remains unchanged by ONLY 8 more delegates going to someone besides her.

    Posted by mikemurry at 03/11/2008 @ 12:20pm

13. Spitzer a distraction from far more serious matters ... just check these numbs highlighting GOP politicization of the Justice Dept under Cheney Bush & Co., spying initiated by former Goldman Sachs partner led Treasury Dept's IRS, which ain't supposed to be used for political fighting (remember Nixon?) ... Arrogant Spitzer strolled right into the trap.

    Number of times each "client" is cited in the DOJ complaint:

    client-1 (16 times) client-2 (8) client-3 (8) client-4 (18) client-5 (10) client-6 (11) client-7 (5) client-8 (6) client-9 (57 -- Gov. Spitzer) client-10 (7)

    How come? HOW INTENTIONAL A SET-UP BUILT ON GOP GOVT SPYING? ... especially after last month's startling upset election reducing the GOP margin in the New York Senate to a single seat.

    Posted by sloper at 03/11/2008 @ 12:33pm

14. Posted by SLOPER 03/11/2008 @ 12:33pm

    Sorry, SLOPER, the "Partisan Conspiracy Theory" thing don't apply.

    Spitzer's BANK picked up all the wire transfers and logged it as "Suspicious Activity" and called in the Feds.

    No, no "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy"...sorry.

    Posted by Mask at 03/11/2008 @ 12:42pm

15. --Clinton has already moved on to campaigning in Pennsylvania, which doesn't vote for another five weeks. So has much of the press corps. That tells you about everything you need to know.

    That's right, Ari! The mainstream press is rooting for Hillary because the longer this contest goes on, the higher their ratings and the more money they can get from advertisers!

    Why aren't they talking about May 6th as the next big contest? There are 218 delegates at stake in the May 6th contests in Indiana and North Carolina where Obama has a comfortable lead in the polls. Only 188 delegates are at state on April 27th in Pennsylvania where Hillary leads in the polls.

    In fact, Hillary is ONLY projected to win 3 more contests - PA, WV, and KY, with Obama wining the other 9 contests on the primary schedule.

    Posted by Metteyya at 03/11/2008 @ 12:57pm

16. I'm amazed that anyone in a small state would even vote for the Clintons considering the fact that the Clintons told them that they are irrelevant.

    Posted by i'm nobody at 03/11/2008 @ 2:03pm

17. Number of times each "client" is cited in the DOJ complaint:

    client-1 (16 times) client-2 (8) client-3 (8) client-4 (18) client-5 (10) client-6 (11) client-7 (5) client-8 (6) client-9 (57 -- Gov. Spitzer) client-10 (7)

    How come? HOW INTENTIONAL A SET-UP BUILT ON GOP GOVT SPYING?

    Posted by SLOPER 03/11/2008 @ 12:33pm

    No, no "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy"...sorry.

    Posted by MASK 03/11/2008 @ 12:42pm

    Well, only if none of the other clients aren't also 'politico' 'public' types, but if they are and if that's not a full list with a lot of repubs left off, then yes-- a rather "Vast RWC", easy.

    Posted by hsuBfools at 03/11/2008 @ 2:15pm

18. McInsane should pick that 107-year old, last-surviving-veteran of the First World War as his running-mate. Or maybe Bob Dole. Why the Hell not?

    Posted by Kevin_OKeeffe at 03/11/2008 @ 2:50pm

19. Beware Zero, your soul is in danger. Your justified antipathy for the triangulating queen of lies seems to be manifesting itself as support for Obama extending even to aggrievement at his treatment by the press. I suffered from the same malady myself and was only saved by Jeremy Scahill. You were right at the start of this two way race(and I was wrong by the way) that none of this mattered and that none of the fundamental problems would be addressed. Come January '09 we are still going to be a imperialist enabler of corporate malfeasance. If the democrat wins these things will simply be done smarter so that the people don't get ticked off.

    Posted by dentedpat at 03/11/2008 @ 4:30pm

20. Posted by HSUBFOOLS 03/11/2008 @ 2:15pm

    HSUB, I know your fondness for the political conspiracy theory...but you're barking up the wrong tree on this one.

    Spitzer's BANK notified the Fed of the "Suspicious Activity" (required by law)...and they took it from there. No "Karl Rove in a dark room" or "out of control GOP prosecuter with a vendetta against Spitzer, paid for by Wall Street"

    His bank caught on...plain ol' ordinary crime-fighters ran with it...and if Spitzer (or allies) try to paint him as some "victim" here, it's going to look phoney and ridiculous!

    Posted by Mask at 03/11/2008 @ 4:47pm

21. It used to be so hard to spell, it used to make me cry!

    But since I studied spelling, it's just like pumpkin pie!

    Sorry, I had to!

    Posted by yutsano at 03/11/2008 @ 5:27pm

22. Oh and point to Euler: I've seen you on several postings now saying why not to vote for Obama but zip on why we should bow down to Her Majesty. Please feel free to enlighten us.

    Posted by yutsano at 03/11/2008 @ 5:28pm

23. The media coverage of Mississippi as if it was a spring training game with no consequences is getting frustrating. They keep noting that it is the "final contest" or "final tune-up" before the April 22nd primary in Pennsylvania. Mississippi is a real state with real voters, not some meaningless prelude. If Obama wins, he will add to his real and substantial delegate lead.

    Posted by Be Good at 03/11/2008 @ 7:59pm

24. I'll be glad when the primaries are over so we can start making fun of mississippi again.

    Posted by bleedingheart at 03/11/2008 @ 8:25pm

25. RASALULA, I agree completely.

    Posted by Dudio at 03/11/2008 @ 8:37pm

26. Geraldine Ferraro's racist comments today about Sen. Barack Obama, and Hillary Clinton's decision to issue a statement mildly expressing her "disagreement" with the former congresswoman and vice presidential candidate, was the last straw for me.

    The Obama campaign just sacked one of their advisers for a comment not even close to that of Ferraro in terms of hatefulness and bigotry. In fact, the Clintons have been racebaiting throughout the course of this campaign, including the former President's obnoxious commentary on the South Carolina primary. The Senator from New York has been downright nasty and dirty in her tactics as well, from the snide "Xerox" remark that drew the only boos of the night during the debate in Texas, to the suggestion that John McCain would be a more worthy occupant of the White House than Sen. Obama.

    Not to mention her whining, sore loser attempts to flout and challenge rules and parameters set by the national party organization in the states of Nevada, Texas, Michigan and Florida --rules that she and her people themselves had helped to formulate -- when they ran against the interest of securing for her the Democratic nomination, something she appears to view as a personal entitlement. (Witness her disrespectful and colossally arrogant offer of a vice presidential spot to the current frontrunner in the campaign.)

    First let me say I have no connection at all to the Obama campaign, other than my own vote and a political contribution. But at this point in time I have no intention at all to vote for Hillary Clinton in the general election, should she secure the nomination either by preferential treatment given to the renegades from Florida and Michigan, some other subterfuge, or even a legitimate win (if that can even be considered a possibility at this point in time).

    Aside from the political and personal character defects alluded to in my previous criticisms, especially her stated preference for Sen. McCain over Sen. Obama and her failure to deal firmly with a racist fundraiser and supporter, I have no reason to believe, given her votes in Congress, that she would be able to lead in two of the areas I find most crucial to the recovery of American democracy in the wake of the eight-year Bush debacle: a swift and decisive end to the invasion of Iraq and the complete restoration of the civil liberties trampled upon by the Patriot Act and other repressive legislation for which she and so many other Democrats have given the President a green light. Her fearmongering "3 a.m. Phone Call" ad only confirms this for me.

    Should she secure the nomination, I plan to not only vote for Ralph Nader, but to campaign, contribute and fundraise for him in my home state of Massachusetts as well. My sentiments are likely shared by many of my Boston Teachers Union co-workers, most of whom are enthusiastic supporters of Sen. Obama and are disgusted, like myself, by the sleazy and racially divisive tactics of the Clintons.

    One political pundit suggested that her "Hillary/McClain 12 years of Experience, Obama One Speech" outburst might be an attempt to angle for a "Jumpin' Joe Lieberman" type of spot as VP on the national Republican ticket with her good friend John McCain. Maybe that might be her best shot.

    Posted by unclefactor at 03/11/2008 @ 9:08pm

27. America thought they knew Hillary, and we were wrong. Increasingly ruthless & Rove-like. If she scams this one somehow, with Florida & superdelegates, it'll be another eternity of Limbaugh/Tom Delay/neocon types trying to out-hate, outsmear pretty much one of their own.

    Posted by winyahn at 03/11/2008 @ 10:20pm

28. One question: given the nagging and tiresome "racial profiling" of the Obama campaign by the Clinton campaign and the news media, when is someone going to start referring to Hillary as the "white candidate"? Just read some of the "person in the street" commentary coming in from the wires out of Pennsylvania, not to mention Geraldine Ferraro's foaming at the mouth, and ask yourself whether or not this is a legitimate question.

    Posted by unclefactor at 03/11/2008 @ 11:08pm

29. My most productive comment today, fits on this, the 3rd thread.....topical: trail blazing Democrat Geraldine Ferraro -- now a major fundraiser for Hillary Clinton --....broached Obama's race in a way that diminished what the Illinois senator has accomplished.

    "If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position...."

    Well, let's just see if Ms. Ferraro hits the bullseye or at least landed in the `black' zone since we happened to had an Election in M-I-S-S-I-S-S-I-P-P-I today! Let's look the the actual returns, with about half of all precincts reporting:

    Obama received 90% of the black votes - can anyone convince even the borderline insane ones on this blog, that BHO would have gotten 90% of black votes if he is a white man battling Hillary???????

    On the Whites side: they voted for HRC to the tune of 74%......again, can anyone convince even the borderline insane ones on this blog, that BHO would have gotten just 21% of white votes if he is a white man????

    Ferraro ROCKS!!!

    Posted by Happy at 03/11/2008 @ 11:44pm

30. RASALULA,

    Gee, nice to hear a opinion that is not (in that post, anyway) one of extreme sexism. You actually managed to criticize her without resorting to hating her gender. ("Shrillary," "Billary," "witch" etc.) All politicians before Hillary have used her tactics and not been called on it. My question is, would people be so absolutely hateful if Hillary was a MAN? They'd just say, "politics as usual," or they wouldn't notice it at all.

    Most of the posters on this site I'm finding are just privileged latte sippers. They're childish and dismiss anyone who opposes them as a one time poster. Well, no wonder people leave. The Nation is supposed to have (at least, I thought) intelligent writing, and I'm sorry, I'm not finding it here.

    Posted by tshirttt at 03/12/2008 @ 12:06am

31. Every time Obama wins a primary or caucus, it seems the media and pundits would be quick to give a sober warning and trying very hard to minimize his accomplishment. They would say, yes, he won this primary or caucus because: 1) the state is predominantly black 2) the voters are not well inform with the political issues 3) the state is too small to be important 4) Obama is more charismatic and Hillary is more rational and people tend to vote the former 5) People are mystified by Obama 6) all of the above

    The problem with such a condescending attitude is that it fails to grasp the fact that Obama has attracted all kind of voters in every state which has made him a new phenomenon in American politics. The media and pundits should be ashamed of themselves that the people are not taking them seriously.

    Posted by jakartaman at 03/12/2008 @ 03:14am

32. Re: Mississippi.

    Well, Mississippi wouldn't vote democratic any time soon. This is Trent's county. Don't take a lot of pride in it.

    Posted by HelenDAO at 03/12/2008 @ 03:26am

33. Bigger than New Hampshire and no media coverage whatsoever. Cute.

    Posted by ZERO 03/11/2008 @ 3:25pm

    exactly.

    Posted by frosty zoom at 03/12/2008 @ 04:02am

34. The Nation is supposed to have (at least, I thought) intelligent writing, and I'm sorry, I'm not finding it here.

    Posted by TSHIRTTT 03/12/2008 @ 12:06am

    where, exactly?

    Posted by frosty zoom at 03/12/2008 @ 04:02am

35. Billary surrogate Ferraro (whom most voters today couldn't identify if you paid them) became a spokesperson for Pepsi right after her flop shot at veep. Now she flacks for & to bigots. Who else would believe that Obama became president of the Harvard Law Review because he wasn't white ... the same who would believe that Hillary flunked the DC bar exam because she wasn't a he?

    Posted by sloper at 03/12/2008 @ 04:23am

36. Personally, I find nothing racist about the Ferraro comment. She is only *speaking* what most of the white race would like to but can't because *we* have to be so politically correct with any comment about the black race. Kind of a double standard, they can say pretty much anything, but let a white person say something and the naacp is all over it. It's automatically racist, and that person should be fired or suspended (apology accepted, with several thousand dollars of gifts to make up for the slight!) I'm offended by the fact that we are expected to apologize for bigotry, slavery, and just pretty much anything that has gone wrong with the black people of this country!

    Posted by Jackie54 at 03/12/2008 @ 06:31am

37. So, of course since the elitist feminist tea party coalition would rather be mum re Ms Ferraro--just like they were either silent or complicit in trashing the women used by Bill Clinton, here is something else from Ben Smith :

    A Ferraro flashback

    "If Jesse Jackson were not black, he wouldn't be in the race," she said.

    Really. The cite is an April 15, 1988 Washington Post story (byline: Howard Kurtz), available only on Nexis.

    Here's the full context:

    Placid of demeanor but pointed in his rhetoric, Jackson struck out repeatedly today against those who suggest his race has been an asset in the campaign. President Reagan suggested Tuesday that people don't ask Jackson tough questions because of his race. And former representative Geraldine A. Ferraro (D-N.Y.) said Wednesday that because of his "radical" views, "if Jesse Jackson were not black, he wouldn't be in the race."

    Asked about this at a campaign stop in Buffalo, Jackson at first seemed ready to pounce fiercely on his critics. But then he stopped, took a breath, and said quietly, "Millions of Americans have a point of view different from" Ferraro's.

    Discussing the same point in Washington, Jackson said, "We campaigned across the South . . . without a single catcall or boo. It was not until we got North to New York that we began to hear this from Koch, President Reagan and then Mrs. Ferraro . . . . Some people are making hysteria while I'm making history."

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0308/A_Ferraro_flashback.html

    Posted by Lil at 03/12/2008 @ 07:27am

38. Also here in Pennsylvania, Billary is pulling out the NAFTA deception again, and because the MSM--with the exception of Keith Olberman, has not confronted the monster Billary with it, she continues to use it without being held accountable.

    Posted by Lil at 03/12/2008 @ 07:31am

39. The fairly subtle implication here is that the Clinton campaign is racist and there is little evidence to prove that point wrong. Besides all the slimy snake work Bill did in South Carolina, the current rhetoric coming from Geraldine (I'm not a Ferrari) Ferraro that was quickly defended to great shame & disappointment I'm sure, by her on Fox News puts the Democratic Party's sleepwalking racism on center left stage. What could be more exciting and promising to a Republican racist (no oxymoron for sure) than to expose the deep seated well hidden to most Whites but hugely understood by most Blacks, racism within the Liberal Party?

    When Obama first got into this race I said to my African American wife (who happens to be one of the only Black people I know, including her entire family, who supports Clinton) and several colleagues and friends at work that he stands no chance of winning the presidency in the south because the Dixicrats are still alive and their children have not fallen far from the tree. I believed then and even more so today that within the Southern Democrats exists a lot of very conservative racist White folks.

    A few months into this, though, I began second-guessing as I saw Whites from Iowa and northeastern states coming out for Obama. But in the back of my mind I could only hope, not predict that things had changed enough in the south.

    Then came South Carolina where Obama won almost 45% of the White vote. Could I be wrong, I mused? But after seeing the results of the next three southern states, including Mississippi where Obama got 23% or less of the White vote and less than 30% in the other two states, then after hearing the comments by Geraldine, not repudiated by Clinton by the way, I could not have been more on target about my prediction that he'd get destroyed in the south. As sorry as I am to see this, I am not surprised.

    I am a flag waving left side of the isle Progressive Liberal 40 something year old White man who had chosen the Democratic party because of it's overall support of the things I agree with and in; however, I know the history of this party and how deep the racism goes and I will not stand for any party that carries on the way these Clinton people and supporters are doing. STOP THIS RACIST BULL-SH--IT NOW DEMOCRATS BEFORE YOU DESTROY THE ONLY HOPE MOST POOR, MOST MINORITY AND EVEN MOST WOMEN HAVE. Without a racist free Democratic party we are left with the out of the closet racist Republicans who don't give a damn about who or how they hurt people. Democrats are not about Darwinistic politics, Darwinistic capitalism or Darwinistic religion, they are about the people, all the people. Remember that!

    Posted by Lucem ferre at 03/12/2008 @ 09:12am

40. There are two elections in the Democratic Party. The Nomination is the first but if the nominee wins the presidency that person becomes the leader of the Democratic party. I believe that the 50 state, grassroots campaign should be the Democratic Party's model for regaining political relevance. We can thank Howard Dean for this if Obama wins. If Clinton wins I will vote against her in the general for the good of the democratic party. I just hope that if Clinton loses she will not pull a Lieberman.

    Posted by nematode at 03/12/2008 @ 09:47am

41. Posted by LUCEM FERRE 03/12/2008 @ 09:12am

    Perhaps slightly unfair to tar the WHOLE Hillary campaign with a racist brush, but it was interesting to note a comment from our local ardent Hillary supporter HELENDAO-

    "Emerging is a new apartheid. This time it's not majority (whites that is) against the minority coloreds, but rather, the coloreds (blacks that is) against whites."----Posted by HELENDAO 03/12/2008 @ 03:24am

    BLOG | Posted 03/11/2008 @ 11:53am Comments for "The Obama Ground View in Mississippi"

    I mean, holy cow...that sounds like something you'd hear at a Klan rally!

    Posted by Mask at 03/12/2008 @ 10:08am

42. Spitzer-gate is Hill's oportunity to get out with face. She'll look at the governship of NY as a way to stay in the limelight and come back at the presidency in the future. If she just looses she's done, If she can make headlines as Gov. she keeps at least a portion of the stage.

    Posted by rightofrush at 03/12/2008 @ 10:18am

43. Nobody, but nobody, believes Mississippi will go with the democrates in November. Nobody. She made a couple of stops in Mississippi, but it makes no sense to pick a nominee on how many states he wins in states that won't vote democratic in the fall. Ignoring this won't make it go away.

    Posted by krisellyn at 03/12/2008 @ 10:23am

44. Condi as McCain's VP???? My God that's a stupid idea. Why doesn't he just go ahead and name Jeb Bush?

    Hilarious.

    Posted by maroci at 03/12/2008 @ 10:42am

45. it makes no sense to pick a nominee on how many states he wins in states that won't vote democratic in the fall. Ignoring this won't make it go away.

    Actually it makes a great deal of sense because (not so much in the case of Mississippi in particular) Obama has been winning by bringing in independents, which is exactly how you win the election. Winning in blue states among blue voters will not win you the general. Not understanding that will not make it go away.

    Posted by maroci at 03/12/2008 @ 10:46am

46. Posted by MASK 03/12/2008 @ 10:08am "Perhaps slightly unfair to tar the WHOLE Hillary campaign with a racist brush..."

    I agree and I apologize for that!

    Posted by Lucem ferre at 03/12/2008 @ 10:47am

47. As far as the Ferraro thing -- if Ferraro weren't a dried up old twat she wouldn't be on TV saying dumb shit because she never would have been nominated for VP in the first place.

    Posted by maroci at 03/12/2008 @ 10:48am

48. Note how I did not say I am sorry if what I said was offensive to some people blah blah blah. I truly am sorry for implying or stating that the entire Clinton team is racist. I am only referring to those Whites in her clan who accept and even sponsor what Geraldine said. As for the Blacks who do so, well, that's a whole other story about how deep this issue is.

    In short, I've known and lot of black people who grew up hoping to be White, wishing for that white suburban picket fensed house that all White people live in, believing that the White machanic won't cheat them while the Black one will, believing that the White owned store sells better food than the Black owned one and that the White owned electronics store is legit while the Black owned one is filled with stolen property. This is so deep and twisted it is not going to go away soon, but I believe the Clinton's know how deep it is and are playing the best game in the world, a game that many Blacks understand but few Whites even believe exists. It's sickening. I'm ashamed to be associated with this as a White male and as a Democrat. This is the main reason I hate the Right but look at us on the left. Things like this give the Right all the amunition they need to jutify their views. We have got to be smarter than this, or perhaps not.

    Posted by Lucem ferre at 03/12/2008 @ 10:55am

49. Notice the silence from the NATION regarding this latest racist occurence from the FEMINISTS involved with and supporting Hillaryland. I want to see some fucking ACCOUNTABILITY from the feminists who would lend their name to this instead of the nice-nice reports of their tea and muffin parties.

    What is more important to you women? Race and gender or being a decent human being?

    Posted by Lil at 03/12/2008 @ 11:04am

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    Posted by Lucem ferre at 03/12/2008 @ 11:10am