Mike Huckabee's "Miracles"

Mike Huckabee may not believe in evolution but he says, "I still believe in miracles."

And he got a lot of them on Super Tuesday.

John McCain won the essential state of California, as well as Arizona, Connecticut, Delaware, Illinois, Missouri, New Jersey, New York and Oklahona. That's the pattern a frontrunner wants to see -- big-state wins in several regions.

The man who tried to position himself as McCain's only real opponent, Mitt Romney, won Massachusetts, which he served as governor. And he did well enough in some western and midwestern states, winning Utah, Montana, North Dakota and Minnesota. But he looked weak in the Republican heartlands of the south, where Huckabee won and won and won and won and won.

Huckabee won Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Tennessee and West Virginia.

Huckabee finishes the night with bragging rights, and maybe even a few miracles.

For Romney, who made no secret of the fact that he needed to get the former Arkansas governor out of the Republican race if he hoped to unite conservatives against McCain, that was very bad news.

Romney has spent more than $90 million so far.

Huckabee has spent about $9 million.

Yet, after Super Tuesday, it is Huckabee -- not Romney -- who looks like the conservative alternative to McCain.

Comments (68)

1. Bet Grace Slick don't want Huckabee to use her song!

   If only you believe like I believe baby

   We'd get by

   If only you believe in miracles baby

   So would I

   If only you believe like I believe baby

   We'd get by

   If only you believe in miracles baby

   So would I...

   Posted by Happy at 02/05/2008 @ 9:12pm

2. this guy is really scary, luckily he is giving it to McCain. Hillary Divides [hillarydivides.com]

   Posted by indep2008 at 02/05/2008 @ 9:23pm

3. Posted by LVLIBERTY1 02/05/2008 @ 9:42pm

   Hoping Huckleberry Hound gets Veep, then?

   Posted by Mask at 02/05/2008 @ 9:59pm

4. Gee whiz, Huck doesnt believe in evolution but does believe in miracles? Sounds like Presidential timber to me. LOL.

   Posted by medliberty at 02/05/2008 @ 10:24pm

5. Bet Grace Slick don't want Huckabee to use her song!

   Posted by HAPPY 02/05/2008 @ 9:12pm

   My apology to all old hippies.....Miracles, by Jefferson Starship, was sung by Marty Balin.

   I just spent 20 wonderful minutes reading up on the Jeffersons....The late 60s' San Fran music scene was truly the Age of Aquarius.....

   BTW, hope you all get a chance to see the musical "Janis"......saw it about 3 weeks ago here in H-town.

   Posted by Happy at 02/05/2008 @ 11:04pm

6. I sometimes don't understand liberals. I encounter the thought that it would be better if McCain were the Republican candidate all over the place. I don't get it. Huckabee is at his worst with regards to evolution, choice, gay rights and other issues where his nut job version of Christianity intersects with politics. But as president his position on evolution will matter not one iota. Even if it did, no one is going to die if the president doesn't believe in evolution. With regards to civil rigths issues concerning privacy and equal treatment he can be dangerous but will likely have to get his judicial nominees through a democratic senate and so cannot put nutjobs like himself on the Court.

   McCain is at his worst with regards to foreign policy. His positions on Iraq and terrorism are just as unsupported by the facts as Huckabee's position on evolution is. His view of the way international politics works seems to me just as backwards as Huckabee's positions on abortion and gay rights. But as president McCain will actually be able to do almost anything he wants with regard to foreign policy. Unless Harry Reid undoes the sixty year tradition of the Senate abrogating its responsibilities with regard to foriegn policy (Reid is not the person to do that) McCain can start new wars, keep the occupation of Iraq going, and help swell the ranks of genuine terrorist organizations. He can enact policy almost single handedly that would lead to the deaths of millions (and tens of thousands of Americans).

   We have reason to be very afraid, because McCain can win in November. He has regularly beaten Clinton in head to head polls. Obama still does better, for the most part, but he has not been the focus of republican opposition research, so there is no reason to believe this lead will endure. The press will refuse to expose McCain as the liar he is (like on the issue of torture, where he voted against an amendment to outlaw waterboarding) and doesn't know enough to show that his supposed strength, foreign policy, is really a weakness.

   Posted by dentedpat at 02/06/2008 @ 02:22am

7. McCain is, without any serious doubt, the best chance for the Repugs to sustain control of the White House in November but it won't help for Dems to wish him bad luck and pull for Huckabee --who is my personal fave among the pugs-- since McCain is now a virtual lock to seal the deal. Romney is pretty much toast.

   I suggest that we take solace in the fact that Obama is now solidly on the inside track to take the White House for three basic reasons. He's the inspirational candidate along the lines of some of our most revered historical figures of hope --Lincoln, FDR, JFK/RFK. He's almost singlehandedly driving voter turnout --with an assist from Dick and Dubya's foul stench-- and garnering the votes of the young, independents and even some crossover Republicans. And last but certainly not least, he's begun to tilt the moneybag laden teeter-totter to his side.

   Of course, the money handlers will not be pleased when and if they see Barack "The Rorschach" Obama resolve himself into a full blown progressive, but it's the hope we hang onto that that's exactly what we are getting in Barack Obama.

   Whatever the outcome, the die has almost certainly been cast.

   We, as progressives, can all assist in the final tally by throwing in our combined weight to tilt the tables in our favor. With the big game now fully under way, now is a good time to start pushing --or pulling. We'd better get on the same page quickly.

   Posted by b_kool_66 at 02/06/2008 @ 03:22am

8. I just spent 20 wonderful minutes reading up on the Jeffersons....The late 60s' San Fran music scene was truly the Age of Aquarius.....

   yes, I remember them all sitting around the Fillmore, bragging about their stock purchases.

   Posted by emile duBois at 02/06/2008 @ 08:21am

9. "With regards to civil rigths issues concerning privacy and equal treatment he can be dangerous but will likely have to get his judicial nominees through a democratic senate and so cannot put nutjobs like himself on the Court." - Well, Bush seemed to do just fine pushing in Alito and Roberts. The shift to the right on the SCOTUS is readily apparent. And, what exactly is Huckabee's stance on the war and foreign policy?? I thought only Ron Paul was in opposition to the war on the republican side.

   Posted by jro555 at 02/06/2008 @ 08:34am

10. Posted by B_KOOL_66 02/06/2008 @ 03:22am

    Odd, the shifting definition of "Rorshach candidate" you have, B_KOOL.

    When Edwards was still in it, Obama was the "Rorschach candidate" because people (falsely in your view) were seeing a "progressive" where none was.

    Now that he's the only anti-Hillary left, YOU see him as a potential "progressive" and the "Rorshach" factor is that the "money handlers" are seeing it wrong.

    Posted by Mask at 02/06/2008 @ 08:56am

11. "I believe that we are currently engaged in a world war. Radical Islamic fascists have declared war on our country and our way of life. They have sworn to annihilate each of us who believe in a free society, all in the name of a perversion of religion and an impersonal god. We go to great extremes to save lives, they go to great extremes to take them. This war is not a conventional war, and these terrorists are not a conventional enemy. I will fight the war on terror with the intensity and single-mindedness that it deserves." - Mike Huckabee, from his campaign site. He sounds just as dangerous as McCain as far as foreign policy goes. Even better is Huckabee's stance on Israel...

    Posted by jro555 at 02/06/2008 @ 09:01am

12. Posted by JRO555 02/06/2008 @ 09:01am

    He's GOT to be fishing for Veep...or already promised it.

    To split the Right out of a visceral dislike of Romney ALONE, doesn't make sense.....UNLESS...

    like LVLIBERY, Huckabee thinks that "Temple Mormons hate us 'real' Christians"...and Mike is merely in it to spoil it for Romney to prevent somebody whose religion he hates from having the nomination!?!??!?

    Posted by Mask at 02/06/2008 @ 09:05am

13. "My faith is my life - it defines me. My faith doesn't influence my decisions, it drives them." - from Mike Huckabee's campaign site. This does not sound like the kind of objective and unbiased decision making we require from our head of state. I think a President Huckabee would be far more disastrous then another 8 years of Bush.

    Posted by jro555 at 02/06/2008 @ 09:05am

14. Posted by MASK 02/06/2008 @ 09:05am :: even a VP Huckabee is terrifying... I really hope not.

    Posted by jro555 at 02/06/2008 @ 09:07am

15. Posted by JRO555 02/06/2008 @ 09:07am

    Ol' Maverick in good shape, but not GREAT shape. No bad wishes for McCain, but The Incredible Huck would be the LITERAL "one heartbeat away" as Veep. (With probably a lot of Religious Righties, if they won the White House, praying for a small, but debilitating "cardiac event" for John!)

    Posted by Mask at 02/06/2008 @ 09:16am

16. Posted by MASK 02/06/2008 @ 09:16am :: ugh god, stop it already!! I'm going to have nightmares.... if Huckabee ever assumes the presidency of this country I AM LEAVING, that is a promise. He'll bring back the With hunt and I'll probably be the first one burned. "You don't go to church? you are pro-choice? you are against the war?? BURN HER!!! SHE'S A WITCH!!"

    Posted by jro555 at 02/06/2008 @ 09:24am

17. Posted by JRO555 02/06/2008 @ 09:24am

    hide the ducks!

    ARTHUR: A duck! CROWD: Oooh. BEDEVERE: Exactly. So, logically... VILLAGER #1: If... she... weighs... the same as a duck,... she's made of wood. BEDEVERE: And therefore? VILLAGER #2: A witch! VILLAGER #1: A witch! CROWD: A witch! A witch!...

    Posted by frosty zoom at 02/06/2008 @ 09:34am

18. Huckabee was supposed to be the stalking horse that would enable John McInsane (think "Greg Stillson" from Stephen King's "The Dead Zone") to carry the South, but instead, Huckabee went and carried the South himself (although he did deliver Oklahoma and Missouri to McInsane). Louisana and Mississippi still have to vote (they should be good for Huckabee as well), and hopefully Romney can win in Ohio and Pennsylvania. If this happens, it is very likely the Republican convention will feature three candidates, none of whom have a majority of the delegates. In the event McInsane doesn't get the nomination on the first ballot, the RNC bigwigs will ensure he never gets it (about time they did something useful).

    I don't know who will wind up the nominee if its not McInsane (most likely a Romney/Huckabee ticket, but anything's possible if it goes to a second ballot), and I frankly don't care all that much. I just don't want an elderly jackass who is certain to take us into war with Iran, and just maybe with Russia and/or China too, eventually, to get any closer to the levers of power. The fact that mafia-connected, mentally ill, Arizona screwball is even given serious consideration for the Presidency raises grave concerns about the future of this nation, and whether an electorate this shallow and ill-informed really ought to be governing its own affairs. Seriously, this guy is like the proto-type of someone you wouldn't want to be President; he's not even mentally stable enough to be trusted with our nuclear arsenal, for crying out loud! Who would make a worse President than McInsane? David Duke? Matthew Lesko? (you know, the guy who wears the suit covered with question marks, kinda like The Riddler, in those commercials where he sells his book about how to get free money in Federal grants) Perhaps the fellow with Down's Syndrome who used to play "Corky" on "Life Goes On?" Hell, I would fucking vote for CHENEY over that guy. John McInsane is the type of person who would get us into a nuclear war over Quemoy & Matsu in the year 2009.

    Posted by Kevin_OKeeffe at 02/06/2008 @ 09:35am

19. Posted by FROSTY ZOOM 02/06/2008 @ 09:34am Can never get tired of that classic ;) "She turned me into a newt!!! ... I got better."

    Posted by jro555 at 02/06/2008 @ 09:39am

20. this is so surreal, it doesn't matter where you post it.

    THE WORLD'S RUBBISH DUMP: A GARBAGE TIP THAT STRETCHES FROM HAWAII TO JAPAN

    By Kathy Marks, Asia-Pacific Correspondent, and Daniel Howden Tuesday, 5 February 2008

    A "plastic soup" of waste floating in the Pacific Ocean is growing at an alarming rate and now covers an area twice the size of the continental United States, scientists have said.

    Posted by frosty zoom at 02/06/2008 @ 09:39am

21. I don't know why people are so scared of Huckabee. He's a Christian Fundamentalist (albeit of a somewhat less-obnoxious-than-usual variety), but he's not a Theocrat. Hell, if he were pro-Choice, he could run as a Democrat. At what point does being terrified of Christians begin to say more about the person who feels that fear than it does about the object of their fear? Which is to say, when does it become an irrational bigotry? I think some examples of that can be read in the comments to this article.

    Posted by Kevin_OKeeffe at 02/06/2008 @ 09:39am

22. Posted by KEVIN_OKEEFFE 02/06/2008 @ 09:35am

    Interesting thing about that line about "Greg Stillson", as King once said he got the name for his Apocalypse-inducing villain from "Still Nixon".

    Whereas today, we'd probably be BETTER OFF with a "Nixon" Republican running.

    Posted by Mask at 02/06/2008 @ 09:42am

23. Posted by KEVIN_OKEEFFE 02/06/2008 @ 09:35am:: I'm not a fan of McCain either...but I find Huckabee to be the more insidious and harmful candidate. Max Blumenthal pretty much sums it up neatly in his article "The Real Huckabee", http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080128/blumenthal. The guy thinks Jesus will come again, and he wants to speed up the process!! I mean you don't get more loony then that. He will give Israel the green light to bomb away in the mid east, and before you know it we'll have WW3 on our hands.

    Posted by jro555 at 02/06/2008 @ 09:45am

24. "He's a Christian Fundamentalist (albeit of a somewhat less-obnoxious-than-usual variety), but he's not a Theocrat." No, I think he is, and the quote I mentioned above and the article posted also illuminate this fact. Let us not also forget his pledge with the Southern Baptist Council, proudly proclaiming men as the head of the household and women must submit to their judgement (with all their wives signing in meek submission). And as Mask mentioned, he is openly discriminatory to other faiths (Romney's mormonism, and he constantly spouts off on "islamofacism", also discussed in detail in Max's article) I really see very little difference between Huckabee and theocrats in the middle east.

    Posted by jro555 at 02/06/2008 @ 09:51am

25. "At what point does being terrified of Christians begin to say more about the person who feels that fear than it does about the object of their fear?" - Huckabee is NOT any old Christian. He is a religious fundamentalist, a zealot. I don't care what religion you are, once you enter that fringe I consider you public enemy number one.

    Posted by jro555 at 02/06/2008 @ 09:52am

26. http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080128/blumenthal. The guy thinks Jesus will come again, and he wants to speed up the process!! I mean you don't get more loony then that. He will give Israel the green light to bomb away in the mid east, and before you know it we'll have WW3 on our hands.

    Posted by JRO555 02/06/2008 @ 09:45am

    no way the MAHDI is gonna get here first!

    Posted by frosty zoom at 02/06/2008 @ 10:02am

27. Not much to smile about ... that garbage patch in the Pacific isn't surreal, it's all too real.

    And McCain, straight talker that he is, makes no bones about more wars, my friends. Billary might be fewer wars, my friends, but Bill will be the de facto veep, utterly unaccountable.

    That leaves Obama, who has to face the Billary Kill Machine on his own, no Huck helping him out, and in Texas, with that large Hispanic vote, it may prove very trying indeed.

    So where's the Hispanic Richardson who wanted to get out of Iraq at once ... will he go into Texas for Obama? Or will he stay on the sidelines, rooting for his old bosses Billary, just so he can be an ephemeral veep.

    Posted by sloper at 02/06/2008 @ 10:09am

28. Not much to smile about ... that garbage patch in the Pacific isn't surreal, it's all too real.

    Posted by SLOPER 02/06/2008 @ 10:09am

    yeah, visit any beach, anywhere.

    Posted by frosty zoom at 02/06/2008 @ 10:11am

29. June 24, 1996 CNN.com

    '...NEWARK, New Jersey (CNN) -- The woman described by Bob Woodward as a spiritual adviser to first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton disputed several of Woodward's published assertions Sunday night. Jean Houston, interviewed at the Newark Airport by CNN, said that Mrs. Clinton did indeed have imaginary conversations with Eleanor Roosevelt at Houston's suggestion....In his new book "The Choice," Woodward wrote that Houston, co-director of the Foundation of Mind Research, urged Mrs. Clinton to write "It Takes a Village," and assisted extensively in rewrites. Houston said that she did help edit the book, but that Mrs. Clinton "wrote that book entirely."...'

    'Don't criticize what you can't understand.' - Robert Allen Zimmerman (Bob Dylan) 'Paredon!' - Ernesto 'El Carnifero' Guevara............................ ..................................... .. 'Lan Astaslem' - T-shirt, protestor at WTC rally

    Posted by HonestLiberal at 02/06/2008 @ 10:15am

30. A "plastic soup" of waste floating in the Pacific Ocean is growing at an alarming rate and now covers an area twice the size of the continental United States, scientists have said.

    Posted by FROSTY ZOOM 02/06/2008 @ 09:39am

    If it's FLOATING and it's twice the size of the US, wouldn't it be easy enough to find on Google Earth?

    While your there Feisty Doom, see if you can pick out Greenland.

    Posted by Sliver at 02/06/2008 @ 10:29am

31. Posted by MASK 02/06/2008 @ 09:16am :: ugh god, stop it already!! I'm going to have nightmares.... if Huckabee ever assumes the presidency of this country I AM LEAVING, that is a promise. He'll bring back the With hunt and I'll probably be the first one burned. "You don't go to church? you are pro-choice? you are against the war?? BURN HER!!! SHE'S A WITCH!!"

    Posted by JRO555 02/06/2008 @ 09:24am | ignore this person

    Were there any witch burnings in Arkansas while he was Governor for ten years???? If Huckabee wins the Presidency, let me be the first to offer you a plane ticket to wherever you would like to move---one condition---stay there.

    Posted by Len Mosse at 02/06/2008 @ 10:39am

32. Posted by LEN MOSSE 02/06/2008 @ 10:39am :: you got yourself a deal. And I will happily stay there will the rest of you drink the Huckabee kool-aid to bring upon the rapture. "Were there any witch burnings in Arkansas while he was Governor for ten years????" - Arkansas is hardly a state of tolerance and diversity. There are no witch burnings because the "witches" know to stay the hell away from that state.

    Posted by jro555 at 02/06/2008 @ 10:49am

33. Posted by SLIVER 02/06/2008 @ 10:29am :: ah yes, because GOOGLE EARTH is the definitive authority on the geography of this planet. It sees all and knows all...if its not on google earth...it does not exist!!

    Posted by jro555 at 02/06/2008 @ 10:52am

34. Posted by SLIVER 02/06/2008 @ 10:29am :: ah yes, because GOOGLE EARTH is the ONE AND ONLY definitive authority on the geography of this planet. It sees all and knows all...if its not on google earth...it does not exist!!

    Posted by jro555 at 02/06/2008 @ 10:57am

35. While your there Feisty Doom, see if you can pick out Greenland.

    Posted by SLIVER 02/06/2008 @ 10:29am

    good luck.

    Posted by frosty zoom at 02/06/2008 @ 11:02am

36. Posted by JRO555 02/06/2008 @ 10:49am

    c'mon up!

    Posted by frosty zoom at 02/06/2008 @ 11:03am

37. When Edwards was still in it, Obama was the "Rorschach candidate" because people (falsely in your view) were seeing a "progressive" where none was.

    ~Maskot

    False.

    I am still disturbed by Obama's fuzziness --no one knows what we are getting in him to any reasonable degree of certainty. I still think he'll likely be an average prez at best. But he is charismatic and that gives him the ability, if he chooses to use it to its fullest, to get the country to think in new ways. For starters, hopefully less militant ways.

    To finish your sentence above with a more accurate representation of my thoughts it should read:

    "people were seeing a progressive when, in fact, there isn't enough data --in the form of a well defined campaign platform-- to be comfortably certain that he is."

    Posted by b_kool_66 at 02/06/2008 @ 11:04am

38. Posted by B_KOOL_66 02/06/2008 @ 11:04am

    As I asked on the other thread....would the new "Warming Up To Obama" B_KOOL....be friends with the "Pre-Edwards Dropping Out" B_KOOL?

    Posted by Mask at 02/06/2008 @ 11:09am

39. Posted by FROSTY ZOOM 02/06/2008 @ 11:03am :: I actually have a lot of family in Canada :) I'm half french-canadian (or so I am told)- I only went when I was one year old though, my family hasn't been up since unfortunately.

    Posted by jro555 at 02/06/2008 @ 11:10am

40. Huckabee was supposed to be the stalking horse that would enable John McInsane (think "Greg Stillson" from Stephen King's "The Dead Zone") to carry the South, but instead, Huckabee went and carried the South himself (although he did deliver Oklahoma and Missouri to McInsane).

    Kevin O'Keefe @ 9:35 am

    Great reference to the Dead Zone. I loved that book when I read it a long, long time ago.

    Romney's toast by the way. He'll be conceding by the end of the week I'd wager.

    Posted by b_kool_66 at 02/06/2008 @ 11:37am

41. In addition to not wanting Huckabee to get any federal judicial appointments, there is also his frightening ignorance of foreign affairs. Anyone remember that his response to the assassination of Benazir Bhutto was to point out how that might contribute to Pakistani illegals coming over the border?

    Posted by brunowe at 02/06/2008 @ 11:49am

42. ah yes, because GOOGLE EARTH is the ONE AND ONLY definitive authority on the geography of this planet. It sees all and knows all...if its not on google earth...it does not exist!!

    Posted by JRO555 02/06/2008 @ 10:57am

    Call me crazy, sister, but I'd be more willing to believe evidence by satellite imaging than SOME reporter who's quoting SOME scientist.

    Posted by Sliver at 02/06/2008 @ 11:53am

43. Posted by SLIVER 02/06/2008 @ 11:53am | ignore this person

    yer a dope. it takes scientists to interpret and translate satellite imagery. they are often indecipherable by non experts, often false color etc.

    Posted by emile duBois at 02/06/2008 @ 11:56am

44. Posted by SLIVER 02/06/2008 @ 11:53am :: well brother, I do admit I am a bit skeptical of the article myself, its source is unfamiliar to me and I've yet to find a more credible reporting on the subject. So in conclusion, neither google earth nor the article mentioned should be taken at face value. Fair enough?

    Posted by jro555 at 02/06/2008 @ 11:56am

45. Posted by BRUNOWE 02/06/2008 @ 11:49am- lol I did not hear that one...what a loon.

    Posted by jro555 at 02/06/2008 @ 11:57am

46. Huckabee is certainly crazier than McCain, but he always had a small chance of winning the nomination, a much smaller chance of winning the election, and an even smaller chance of getting anything done as president. The media would have made him a joke, which he is. They play with kid gloves with McCain. Plus it is clear where Huckabee's focus is, it is on social and cultural issues where he would have no significant power as president.

    And a couple of campaign speeches does not make Huckabee as bad on foreign policy as McCain. McCain has voted like an uberhawk and talked like an uberhawk for years.

    Posted by dentedpat at 02/06/2008 @ 12:52pm

47. Posted by LVLIBERTY1 02/06/2008 @ 12:52pm:: well don't be too happy LV- you and your fellow conservatives are going to have a hard time forcing another republican into office this election cycle. Although after 2004, anything is possible. Icing on the cake?? you lead one pathetic life if my "hysteria" (oh yep, yep, I'm truly going bonkers, clearly you can smell the fear through the computer screen) gives you some sort of pleasure.

    Posted by jro555 at 02/06/2008 @ 1:14pm

48. Posted by LVLIBERTY1 02/06/2008 @ 12:52pm ::: Obama stealing Hillary's wind should be no reason for any repub/conservative to smile. Hillary is easy to defeat in a general election, there is no better driving impulse for republicans to fall in line and vote against her. Obama is a much less divisive character, and so many republicans do not favor McCain...they just may sit this one out- effectively handing the oval office over to the democrats.

    Posted by jro555 at 02/06/2008 @ 1:18pm

49. Sailing The Seas Of Trash

    ah yes, because GOOGLE EARTH is the ONE AND ONLY definitive authority on the geography of this planet. It sees all and knows all...if its not on google earth...it does not exist!!

    Posted by JRO555 02/06/2008 @ 10:57am

    Call me crazy, sister, but I'd be more willing to believe evidence by satellite imaging than SOME reporter who's quoting SOME scientist.

    Posted by SLIVER 02/06/2008 @ 11:53am

    watch the video, plasticman

    Vast Area Of Pacific Ocean Polluted With Plastic

    REDONDO BEACH, Calif., Jan. 6, 2004

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/06/eveningnews/main591770.shtml

    Posted by frosty zoom at 02/06/2008 @ 1:35pm

50. WHACK-A-HUCK...

    Smack him down in one place, he pops up in another!

    Posted by w_m_bear at 02/06/2008 @ 1:46pm

51. Posted by LVLIBERTY1 02/06/2008 @ 1:30pm :: fair enough, I'll lighten up. And glad to see your politics differ from your wife's- reminds me of my mom and dad, constantly poking fun at the dinner table, and joking how they always cancel out eachothers vote (although now my mom gets to brag that my sisters and I clearly out weigh his vote 4-1)

    Posted by jro555 at 02/06/2008 @ 1:52pm

52. Posted by FROSTY ZOOM 02/06/2008 @ 1:35pm :: video didn't work...I just got to watch 3 stupid commercials every time I clicked on it... but it seems valid enough.

    Posted by jro555 at 02/06/2008 @ 1:56pm

53. Posted by JRO555 02/06/2008 @ 1:56pm

    try again. i saw two commercials (damn you sumner redstone) then it loaded.

    jellyfish impregnated with trash.

    more plastic than plankton.................

    Posted by frosty zoom at 02/06/2008 @ 2:07pm

54. Posted by LVLIBERTY1 02/06/2008 @ 2:09pm:: oh, well, too bad then.

    Posted by jro555 at 02/06/2008 @ 2:11pm

55. "Broadly speaking, liberalism emphasizes individual rights and equality of opportunity. Different forms of liberalism may propose very different policies, but they are generally united by their support for a number of principles, including extensive freedom of thought and speech, limitations on the power of governments, the rule of law, the free exchange of ideas, a market or mixed economy, and a transparent system of government. All liberals – as well as some adherents of other political ideologies – support some variant of the form of government known as liberal democracy, with open and fair elections, where all citizens have equal rights by law."

    - LV- you sure you and your wife have no appreciation for liberalism?? ;)

    Posted by jro555 at 02/06/2008 @ 2:13pm

56. Posted by FROSTY ZOOM 02/06/2008 @ 1:35pm

    FROSTY, I read that report and....I didn't see any mention of a "plastic soup with an area twice the size of the US"?!?!?

    Posted by Mask at 02/06/2008 @ 2:17pm

57. Posted by FROSTY ZOOM 02/06/2008 @ 2:07pm :: wow, ok, got it. that is troubling news...but no "plastic soup the size of the US" imagery really. Nonetheless...obviously something needs to be done...question is if we'll ever get around to it. Wonder if the oceans will become ghost water worlds in my life time... vast underwater seascapes completely devoid of life.

    Posted by jro555 at 02/06/2008 @ 2:19pm

58. jrofivefivefive:

    http://www.bestlifeonline.com/cms/publish/healthfitness/Our_oceans_are_t urning_into_plastic_are_we_2_printer.shtml

    break is between t-urning in link.

    Posted by frosty zoom at 02/06/2008 @ 2:20pm

59. The potential for ingestion of plastic particles by open ocean filter feeders was assessed by measuring the relative abundance and mass of neustonic plastic and zooplankton near the central high-pressure area of the North Pacific central gyre. Neuston samples were collected at 11 random sites, using a manta trawl lined with 333 u mesh. The abundance and mass of neustonic plastic was the largest recorded in this area at 334,271 pieces/km' and 5,114 g/km2, respectively. Plankton abundance was approximately five times higher than that of plastic, but the mass of plastic was approximately six times that of plankton. The most frequently sampled types of identifiable plastic were thin films and polypropylene/monofilament line [that's hard to see in water -- fz]. The most frequently sampled type of unidentified plastic was plastic fragments. Cumulatively, these three types accounted for 98% of the total plastic pieces.

    http://www.mindfully.org/Plastic/Moore-North-Pacific-Central-Gyre.htm

    might not be a very thick soup yet.

    yet.

    i've been on beaches far from cities and you ALWAYS find lots and lots and lots and lots of plastic.

    all right, humans. fight wars for oil so you can throw it away.

    right on!

    Posted by frosty zoom at 02/06/2008 @ 2:25pm

60. Big waterboarding news. Very exciting to Old Testementers like Huckabee.

    Neocons precisely delayed admission of waterboarding until after Super Tuesday.

    ASK WHY. Easy: because this news is better for-antiwar Obama.

    Neocons believe they can vilify and beat "Hitlerly"

    Posted by winyahn at 02/06/2008 @ 2:25pm

61. Posted by LVLIBERTY1 02/06/2008 @ 2:29pm

    sheesh.

    ask your mexican buddies about neo-liberalism.

    looks great on paper, but people are just way to greedy and stupid.

    Posted by frosty zoom at 02/06/2008 @ 2:31pm

62. "more closely espouse more of the socialist anarchism of Chomsky" ::: socialist anarchy?? isn't that kind of an oxymoron? thought those two principles were pretty much diametrically opposed (anarchy to the right, socialism to the left). but at any rate, saying you have no appreciation for "liberalism" still is a misnomer- you at least have an appreciation for the classic variation. So in essence, we have the same fundamentals and goals, we just try to achieve them in different ways :)

    Posted by jro555 at 02/06/2008 @ 2:41pm

63. I wonder how you reconcile your respect for classic liberalism with your stance on abortion..it would seem they would contradict one another. But that is for another blog on another day.

    Posted by jro555 at 02/06/2008 @ 2:44pm

64. Huckabee is creepy. Anyone who wears his religion on his sleeve and thrusts it in your face at every opportunity is a bit off, in my opinion. That's exactly what Huckabee does. Spirituality is great! Keep it to yourself though. Your personal connection to the divine is yours. I don't need to hear about it, over and over and over again.

    Posted by FritztheCat at 02/06/2008 @ 2:52pm

65. Posted by FRITZTHECAT 02/06/2008 @ 2:52pm

    good thing you're not in the air force academy.

    Posted by frosty zoom at 02/06/2008 @ 3:18pm

66. Posted by JRO555 02/06/2008 @ 2:41pm

    Not exactly. Ref: "anarcho-communism" and Dejacque' (sp?)

    Posted by Mask at 02/06/2008 @ 4:02pm

67. JR0555----If Huckabee becomes President I will gladly send you the ticket---just tell me the address----will see you off at the airport and supervise the sale of all of your property and make sure that you get every penny---just don't come back---ever---not even to visit. I am sure you can find your secular Eutopia somewhere north of here or in Europe----or maybe you need a little more stucture, I then recommend Cuba or North Korea--at least there you won't have to worry about those bad ole theocrats. You will be happy and I will be overjoyed---one less liberal nut to worry about.

    Posted by Len Mosse at 02/06/2008 @ 9:11pm

68. Posted by LEN MOSSE 02/06/2008 @ 9:11pm | ignore this person

    that was elaborate. small wonder, you have nothing to say.

    Posted by emile duBois at 02/06/2008 @ 10:26pm