Palin as the Church Lady

You gotta give Sarah Palin's book tour credit for one thing: It's really putting the passive-aggressive instincts of the religious right on public display.

And not just because she spends much of her 432-page book blaming campaign media flacks and hairdressers, bless their cinder-black hearts, for the McCain/Palin ticket's loss in 2008. Here's Sarahcuda talking up Going Rogue for the Christian Broadcasting Network this week, reproving her critics by saying, "These are probably some lonely people, some shallow people who want to take a shot like that, and we need to pray for these people."

The former (for half a term) governor of Alaska sounds a bit like the Saturday Night Live Church Lady, who pretended to be generous and devout but was always on the verge of boiling over with resentment, even barely contained violence, for anyone whose demeanor she considered insufficiently pious. (What would Dana Carvey's character have said about Palin's too-tight skirts and stiletto-heeled red pumps, I wonder?)

On the Sean Hannity show that aired the same day, Hannity asked Palin about David Letterman: Would she "have anything to do with him? Because you're a Christian. You want to, you want to forgive people."

"Well, certainly," Palin fumbled, caught off guard, as she tried to pass the forgiveness buck to God, by saying, "Forgiveness and vengeance isn't mine." But with her next breath, she denied one of Going Rogue's undeniable motifs: "I'm not out for vindication," she claimed--but no way would she give Dave the high ratings she can always deliver by going on his show.

This kind of passive-aggressive religiosity (which comes, of course, in Jewish, Muslim, and atheist varieties) has been around for generations. But as conservative evangelicals lost their faith in George W. Bush and witnessed the rise of Barack H. Obama, their wrath has been on the prowl for somebody to blame.

Take, for example, the "Pray for Obama" merchandise--the bumper stickers, T-shirts, Teddy bears, mouse pads, and other paraphernalia that have been popping up across the country, telling you to pray for POTUS specifically with Psalm 109, verse 8, which reads, "Let his days be few; and let another take his office." The next verse continues, "Let his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow." On The Rachel Maddow Show, former right-wing evangelical leader Frank Schaeffer likened this to "trawling for assassins."

For at least the past 10 years, the megachurch evangelical movement has been telling its parishioners that Jesus wants them to get rich. That fit rather nicely with the triumphalism of Bush/Rove & Co. as it built its "permanent majority" with their votes, testifying that it was their all-American duty to trample the environment and the poor, and to kill Afghan and Iraqi Muslims, on the way to God's kingdom. In imitation of the way Bush paid for his wars, many of the devout simply loaded themselves up with debt, buying SUVs and McMansions in spanking new developments.

Since the capitalist collapse, of course, that debt has become toxic. Now, in their dismay and confusion over having supported Bush--one of the first governors, by the way, to declare an annual state "Jesus Day"--evangelicals are left with a terrible anger. And they desperately don't want to turn that anger inward.

Instead, some of them want to smite Obama because they can't admit that Bush led them, lemming-like, into a betrayal of Protestantism's founding belief. Debt, trade, and the work ethic were all central to the disputes that launched the Reformation, after all. The Catholic Church preached that bank interest was "usury," that it would corrupt society and impoverish the people, and the early Protestants were sensitive to this criticism. In compensation, they hemmed in their financial speculations with strict condemnations of personal excess--whether through sex, drink, cards, dancing, sumptuous dress, or what have you--in order to project a prudence that would make economic risk seem manageable, even respectable.

And now we have the Great Unraveling. As the waters recede, what's left behind are follies like the "Drowning Jesus" (a/k/a "Touchdown Jesus"), a 62-foot-high sculpture of Christ set chest-deep in a reflecting pool at the Solid Rock Church in Monroe, Ohio, one of the non-coastal states Palin is visiting on her book tour. And who's to blame for that embarrassing excess, constructed in 2004?

I know: ACORN.

Comments (283)

1. Know who else is into Jesus - the blacks. Not just the regular blacks, the Haitians and West Indians too.

   You should cruise around SE Queens and see all the churches. Churches on every corner. English-speaking, Creole, Spanish. Just disgusting, all these black fascist Christians. I can see the hatred in their shifty eyes as they exit their temples of hatred. You know they want to kill a faggot. That's the only reason they go to church, to hear some little black hitler talk about killing faggots.

   Oh, don't get me started about the church ladies with their big church hats. God how i hate them, with their fancy hats of bigotry!

   Next time: the Mexicans!

   Posted by gangpapist at 11/20/2009 @ 4:53pm

2. Don't you Libs just wished you had an anti-Christ....urrr...I mean, anti-Palin who can be such a draw?

   Fascinating! I DO believe that the Left, and the Legacy Media, have transferred their Bush DS over to Ms. Palin.....but be careful, she can't pull the troops out of Iraq or wiretap your phone.....but, she can be part of your wet dream......hahahahaha!

   Posted by Happy at 11/20/2009 @ 4:56pm

3. Hey Droop did your bell go off late.It must have so your pal the Bishop could rally the troops first.

   Posted by whatozz at 11/20/2009 @ 5:05pm

4. I have never seen so much fear of a woman who holds no elective office, has no job, is beautiful, sleeps with her own husband, has more experience than the current clown in the WH,and has general appeal to the average woman or man today....so much fear from the lunatic fringe here on the left, that there must be something to fear...

   the way they and their buddies in the press have savaged her and her family(11 "investigative" reporters fact checking her book, and NONE of Obie 3 life storys, or anyone else on the left?)...maybe we should put them to the task of looking under ALGORES skirt...its getting a little short these days..

   Sarah Palin will never be the president of the US, but she will most likly serve in the next Presidents Cabinet and will most certainlt have a major part to play in the the election...perhaps the era of collectivism is threatened by Sarah?

   So many articles and TV talk shows full of ridicule..have given her an admiration level amongst the genersl population the left can only drool over.

   Posted by YourJomamma at 11/20/2009 @ 5:07pm

5. If that bitch won't learn to keep her fat mouth shut, maybe Roman Polanski should go stick his big 'ol rigtheous di** in there! That might learn that li'l hick to stay in her place!

   Hey Happ, thanks for the gold advice.

   Posted by gangpapist at 11/20/2009 @ 5:09pm

6. Its called the sheeple jommama, you guys and gals are the sheeple, it takes sheer stupidity to follow someone like Sarah, she is an embarrassment, and an insult to women everywhere.

   Posted by Denise29 at 11/20/2009 @ 5:28pm

7. Don't you Libs just wished you had an anti-Christ....urrr...I mean, anti-Palin who can be such a draw?

   Fascinating! I DO believe that the Left, and the Legacy Media, have transferred their Bush DS over to Ms. Palin.....but be careful, she can't pull the troops out of Iraq or wiretap your phone.....but, she can be part of your wet dream......hahahahaha!

   Posted by Happy at 11/20/2009 @ 4:56pm

   Happy, we DO have an anti-Palin (which some on your side believe is the anti-Christ...his name is Barack Obama and he won the last election against Saracuda.

   As for wet dreams, now we know why all those old white Republican male politicians always come (cum?) to Saracuda's defense.

   Posted by Stephen_Carver1 at 11/20/2009 @ 5:49pm

8. Posted by YourJomamma at 11/20/2009 @ 5:07pm

   YJ, don't confuse fear with disdain. They are two completely different emotions.

   I have absolutely no fear of Saracuda. Nor do any of the Dems in my circle of life.

   Posted by Stephen_Carver1 at 11/20/2009 @ 5:51pm

9. Ya, and Obama is actually intelligent, what a consept!

   Posted by Denise29 at 11/20/2009 @ 5:52pm

10. So many articles and TV talk shows full of ridicule..have given her an admiration level amongst the genersl population the left can only drool over.

    Posted by YourJomamma at 11/20/2009 @ 5:07pm

    Is that why the latest "should Sarah run for Prez" poll had her NO's at over 70%? Because of the "admiration level" of the general population?

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    Ooops, I forgot to drool.

    Posted by Stephen_Carver1 at 11/20/2009 @ 5:53pm

11. By the way, what is with the anti-intellectualism on the right??? Why is that, and what does it accomplish? Maybe thats the point? So many questions and so few answers.

    Posted by Denise29 at 11/20/2009 @ 5:54pm

12. By the way, what is with the anti-intellectualism on the right??? Why is that, and what does it accomplish? Maybe thats the point? So many questions and so few answers.

    Posted by Denise29 at 11/20/2009 @ 5:54pm

    Intellectuals, and intellectualism, are always targets of rightwingers and fascists. Hitler went after intellectuals in Germany, not only because a significant percentage were Jewish, but because the human animal is easier control with nationalistic emotions. Those who question such nationalistic behavior intellectually, single themselves out as "enemies." Thus it was in Hitler's Germany, thus it is in America today: liberal intellectuals have been called traitors and worse, by people like Ann Coulter, who would rather Republicans rule with fear (which they did for eight years), than try to give strong intellectual thought to matters facing our country, both right and left, and create solutions to those problems.

    You see, without someone to "blame" for the ills of the world, conservatives wouldn't have a leg to stand on (and neither would many liberals). Intellectuals are always an easy target because they usually don't share the simplified faith of the masses; intellectuals are usually liberal; and to be honest, people who are not intellectuals are always intimidated by them: notice it's the stupid bully who beat up the smart kids, not the other way around. That's human nature, unfortunately.

    Only when we have a world full of people with intellectual curiosity, will we have a world at peace. And we all know that peace is bad for defense contractors and organized religion.

    Posted by Stephen_Carver1 at 11/20/2009 @ 6:26pm

13. Oh, don't get me started about the church ladies with their big church hats. God how i hate them, with their fancy hats of bigotry!

    Next time: the Mexicans!

    Posted by gangpapist at 11/20/2009 @ 4:53pm | ignore this person | warn this person

    I always knew all those Black churches in my small home town were just like our White churches and our Comanche Missionary Baptist ones! Christianity was always just a front for our white and indian nazis ceremonys.

    You do know the 45th thunderbird division had to change their swastikas (navaho good luck symbol) to the thunderbird to fool the regular army-o guys and government!

    They sure hated killing those europeon nazis! But, we do still have swastikas proudly displayed in stone above the entrances to some of our university buildings!

    When do we all get together to march on D.C.??? We have all the organic red ocher face paint you will need!

    Posted by BigPasture at 11/20/2009 @ 6:40pm

14. Stephen_Carver1, thanks for the heads up, I've actually heard and read that exact same thing through the years but it was good to have a refresher, Its a sad state of affairs when we have to act dumb to keep from being beat up on, whether on the page or in person, sad state of affairs indeed.......sigh... .

    Posted by Denise29 at 11/20/2009 @ 6:43pm

15. Thanks McShame, for opening pandora's box when you chose Palin for your running mate, and we can never put all of what you unleashed back into the box again.

    Posted by Denise29 at 11/20/2009 @ 6:47pm

16. You see, without someone to "blame" for the ills of the world, conservatives wouldn't have a leg to stand on (and neither would many liberals).

    Posted by Stephen_Carver1 at 11/20/2009 @ 6:26pm

    Stephen, that was a true gem of a statement.

    Long before people get busy fixing the ills of this world, they will get busy blaming other people for everything that's wrong. It's the most consistent and oft repeated human failing.

    Princess Sarah uses this tactic constantly. It's always someone else's fault. It's that darn 'gotcha' liberal journalism. It's Levi's fault. It's John McCain's fault. It's Katie Couric's fault. The script on SNL wasn't very funny. Wah.

    Her perfection is stunning. Is 'she' the Lord, cross dressing in his second coming?

    It also seems that the most repeated proof of her qualifications is the fact that she's 'beautiful'. It's either an oedipal fixation or just plain masturbatory politico-pop-porn at work here.

    I enjoy the ranting from both sides, including my own. I think the truth is... is that the role of 'politician' has just done plumb wore out, and wore US out as well. Now we just want out Mom! And for her to make everything better! Sa-a-a-a-rah!

    Posted by ficheye at 11/20/2009 @ 6:51pm

17. "perhaps the era of collectivism is threatened by Sarah?"

    yeah, perhaps? even though she LOBBIED FOR A TRILLION DOLLAR WALL STREET BAILOUT.

    yeah, she's just like you and i, john! always looking out for the little guy!

    bullshit! she's a repugnant fascistic turd!

    Posted by darladoon at 11/20/2009 @ 6:53pm

18. The gorgeous Sarah is also a top item on the Aussie news at present. Red blooded males. All of us.

    Why are the Lib sheilas invariably so physically and intellectually unattractive? Do they become Libs as a reaction to that condition or is it ugly plus ugly politics?

    I suppose Happy one good thing for the future of the human race is that they (the straight ones) are unlikely to be sought out as breeders.

    Posted by lrjones4 at 11/20/2009 @ 6:55pm

19. I call bullshit lrjones 4, not all female libs are ugly, only the ones you know.

    Posted by Denise29 at 11/20/2009 @ 6:59pm

20. Posted by YourJomamma at 11/20/2009 @ 5:07pm

    YJ, don't confuse fear with disdain. They are two completely different emotions.

    I have absolutely no fear of Saracuda. Nor do any of the Dems in my circle of life.

    Posted by Stephen_Carver1 at 11/20/2009 @ 5:51pm

    You may be right, many of us feel the same about Obama and his cabal....

    the difference, is you guys voted for yours...and as much as many of us like how Sarah handles herself and how she stands for what she thinks is correct, I don't think you will see the syncophatic behaviors the left exhibited or the 99.9 % black voters lock step for the dems and Obama, among the Sarah admires.

    I admit it took Sara to get me to vote for McCain...however, I would not support her for President today any more than I would anyone on the left.

    The Darlaloon and Denise, the double D's dimwits.....are in no position to make jokes about anti intellectualism..since Darla has demonstrated an uncanny inability to comprehend the world we live and Denise is just another uneducated non achiever hoping for those who took time and made the effort to educate themselves and put themselves in a position to pay for their own needs...and have something left over for the drive for excellence and more than just getting by, to pay for her demands.

    Nothing you two dumbkopfs have ever posted would cause the word "intellectual" spring to mind...lock step left is the vision.

    Posted by YourJomamma at 11/20/2009 @ 7:08pm

21. Jommama, bite me you a@#h*&e, you wouldn't know an intellectual women if she bent over and f#$ted on you, get a life loser.

    Posted by Denise29 at 11/20/2009 @ 7:14pm

22. I call bullshit lrjones 4, not all female libs are ugly, only the ones you know.

    Posted by Denise29 at 11/20/2009 @ 6:59pm

    OK, Ok you are the only one I know (who is on terms with my private life).

    I meant from a RB male's perspective, re breeding material.

    Still love your robust non-intellectual language babe, you are one classy sheila.

    Posted by lrjones4 at 11/20/2009 @ 7:34pm

23. Jommama, bite me you a@#h*&e, you wouldn't know an intellectual women if she bent over and f#$ted on you, get a life loser.

    Posted by Denise29 at 11/20/2009 @ 7:14pm

    I rest my case.

    Pure intellectual genius.

    I can imagine an evening with discussing deep , deep thoughts on issues would be......zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    Posted by YourJomamma at 11/20/2009 @ 7:37pm

24. The Church, of course, is a business and like any other business, it needs customers. Christians have been sitting around making up pure horseshit for centuries and marketing it to other hateful, bloodthirsty self-worshiping hypocrites, to the point where their 'Business' is little more than a social club for those who have no friends in the real world. The great thing about self-worship, however, is that it's self-destructive; which is exactly what is happening to The Church and to Ms. Palin.

    Another way to look at it is that Big Religion is one of the central elements of a fascist state, as defined by Mussolini. Big Government in bed with Big Business and a Big Military doing the bidding of Big Banking and Big Religion. Mussolini must be SO proud.

    Posted by DejaVu at 11/20/2009 @ 8:47pm

25. Imagine, if you can, an Obama - Palin debate. The sexual tones, the bizarre behavior from the right before & after, her utter bankruptcy ... her "rape" by him. Talk about a stimulant for rednecks (as if they need any) ... it would be back to the days when Nat King Cole was allowed to have his own TV show, but he couldn't be seen touching a white woman.

    The GOP deserves her, they can self-destruct together ... on their way to the bank.

    Posted by sloper at 11/20/2009 @ 9:55pm

26. America's elite and Palin-haters everywhere should not be so quick to dismiss or disregard the future of Sarah Palin. No other national political figure so completely fills Middle America's vacuum of frustration and hate for the Left and Right as Sarah Palin.

    Middle America has been abandoned by the Left and Right, who have saddled it with a $700 billion taxpayer bailout, an unnecessary and costly war, a soaring deficit, and an overall neglect of the pocketbook issues that impact Middle America every day. Where are job creation, quality public education, affordable healthcare, and fiscal responsibility, to name a few?

    Middle America is mad as hell at the Left and Right and they just might be willing to roll the dice on someone like Palin, who lacks an Ivy League education, is a working class hockey-mom with a disabled child, and who has blue-collar roots like many of the folks in Middle America. The status quo on the Left and Right have produced nothing material for Middle America, which may toss conventional wisdom into the toilet and throw the lever for Palin, figuring it has nothing to lose, and it may be right.

    We can say what we want about Palin, but no Republican in recent history has created such frenzied excitement across the country as she has. Just take a look at the fervor she stirs as she wheels across Middle America on her book tour.

    Perhaps this is a misreading of the tea leaves, but one could argue that she creates a wee bit more excitement than Mitt Romney or Mike Huckabee, the two Republican front-runners for president in 2012. In the land of the blind, the one-eyed woman just may be queen.

    A. Muser http://americanmuser.wordpress.com

    Posted by AmericanMuser at 11/20/2009 @ 10:39pm

27. 'The fact that someone who seems dumber and more vindictive than George W. Bush was close to becoming president should frighten us all. To the extent that the current focus on Palin reminds people of that, it's a good thing.'

    Posted by kirquaker at 11/20/2009 @ 11:08pm

28. Posted by AmericanMuser at 11/20/2009 @ 10:39pm

    You may be right. Middle America seems to be ready & waiting for a charismatic rescuer like Palin.

    And after reviewing your list of what these average Americans need, it's apparent just what she'll do...

    Organize a mass immigration to China!

    Posted by Sorelish at 11/20/2009 @ 11:11pm

29. Palin is an appalling rube who will do anything to extend her 15 minnutes of fame.

    That's why she wrote a pathetic self serving book.

    That's why she's such a perfect fit for the barking mad faction of the GOP. They need an enforcer to do their bidding.

    Dubya was unintelligent to be sure but he was no rube. He served the moneyed interests not the fanatical flagellants of the teabag set.

    She is currently studying up some constitutional cliff's notes and sharpening her talons.

    The likelihood that she will become POTUS doesn't depend on her, as much as it does on the conditions in the United States.

    A four year recession with double digit unemployment could propel a crude, mean-spirited, small-town mayor to the whitehouse.

    Posted by koroviev at 11/20/2009 @ 11:15pm

30. A four year recession with double digit unemployment could propel a crude, mean-spirited, small-town mayor to the whitehouse.

    Posted by koroviev at 11/20/2009 @ 11:15pm

    Well you've tried a small time community organiser who appears a bit out of his depth beyond speech making and a "moron" from Texas and don't forget that peanut farmer fellow. Beside those the delicious Sarah is pure royalty. Well you know what I mean and that was a long time ago and you could have have done worse than by sticking with him (and in fact have).

    Posted by lrjones4 at 11/20/2009 @ 11:41pm

31. ...many of us like how Sarah handles herself and how she stands for what she thinks is correct...

    Posted by YourJomamma at 11/20/2009 @ 7:08pm

    Gott in himmel! This is our chance! someone is going to tell us what Sarah believes and what she stands for...

    Up until now she has only told us what she is against and who is unfairly stereotyping her! I, for one, would really like to know what she thinks is correct. Her book is full of the same old 'poor me' bitching that we have all come to know and love, and here at the Nation a tiny smidgen of the 25 to 30% of her supporters are taking everyone to task for not joining in on their pseudo-sexual fantasies.

    So, in just a few snarky sentences, won't someone make it crystal clear what her 'vision' is? The truth is - she really doesn't have one. But I'm waiting for anyone who's willing to make something up... besides the besotted "she's beautiful... quit pickin' on her..." line.

    Speaking in tongues as she reveals 'her inmost self,' President Sarah will push the button and bring on Armageddon, all the time telling us to make smores.

    Posted by ficheye at 11/20/2009 @ 11:42pm

32. Well you've tried a small time community organiser who appears a bit out of his depth beyond speech making and a "moron" from Texas and don't forget that peanut farmer fellow. Beside those the delicious Sarah is pure royalty. Well you know what I mean and that was a long time ago and you could have have done worse than by sticking with him (and in fact have).

    Posted by lrjones4 at 11/20/2009

    I saw footage of Obama at an NBA game and he didn't pick his nose one time... Imagine that.

    Oh yeah, you left out the guy who made movies with a monkey named Bonzo.

    Posted by koroviev at 11/20/2009 @ 11:48pm

33. ...the delicious Sarah is pure royalty.

    Posted by lrjones4 at 11/20/2009 @ 11:41pm

    What a stupid statement. Like the rest, you just wanna put a shrimp in her barbie. Pure royalty... I cannot believe that your wife let you type that.

    Posted by ficheye at 11/20/2009 @ 11:52pm

34. "That's why she wrote a pathetic self serving book. "

    Tisk, tisk. That's why she had someone else write a pathetic self-serving book.

    Posted by kirquaker at 11/20/2009 @ 11:58pm

35. A four year recession with double digit unemployment could propel a crude, mean-spirited, small-town mayor to the whitehouse.

    Posted by koroviev at 11/20/2009 @ 11:15pm

    Just in time for menopause. That oughta be fun.

    Posted by ficheye at 11/21/2009 @ 12:03am

36. Posted by ficheye at 11/21/2009 @ 12:03am |

    Fish, she's an empty suit, like Obama, like Bush.

    I agree with "drill, baby, drill," but yeah, she's no Shelby Steele (I can dream can't I?)

    I just have fun with the fact that the MSM is so obsessed with her. Donna Reed must be destroyed! Tammy Wynette is Satan!

    Palin is townie identity politics for Repubs. Until Bam the Dems had been putting up shitkickers exclusively clear back to LBJ. So what's the big deal?

    Posted by gangpapist at 11/21/2009 @ 12:39am

37. maasch can answer for her support of the wall street bailout, her begging for federal subsidies for her home state, her abuse of power, her QUITTING her job to sell books!

    Posted by darladoon at 11/21/2009 @ 12:40am

38. and john, why does a woman have to sleep with only one man? can she sleep with other men, or other women? ever?

    Posted by darladoon at 11/21/2009 @ 12:40am

39. Thanksgiving is next week...Maybe Palin will re-enact her slaughterhouse interview.

    Which by the way was fascinating...I never knew those processing apparatuses existed. I always pictured an axe, an old tree stump and headless turkey bodies running around.

    Posted by koroviev at 11/21/2009 @ 12:44am

40. What a stupid statement. Like the rest, you just wanna put a shrimp in her barbie. Pure royalty... I cannot believe that your wife let you type that.

    Posted by ficheye at 11/20/2009 @ 11:52pm

    No Fishie them's her words. The athletic Sarah is about the only American political leader she knows and likes. She turns the telly off when the present one comes on so I don't think she is a Lib but who knows? I do know she is not an intellectual. No self respecting Aussie woman would want to admit to that?

    Look a bit of advice. The stunning Sarah is the goods and that's gospel truth. I mean you haven't had too many good ones have you so why not try beauty over brawn for once.

    Posted by lrjones4 at 11/21/2009 @ 12:59am

41. Palin the matriarch and, particularly, the mother of a Down Syndrome child does have an impact on a segment of the population that is much maligned by the MSM.

    She appeals to a sense of morality which is, yes, highly spiritual, and which does not depend on government.

    Anecdotal: when I was in my pre-teens, my parents for a time attended a couple Evangelical churches. Prominent in these churches were very large adoptive families, many of whom adopted multiple children that were disabled or with birth defects.

    Some of these people probably had wacky ideas about rock and roll or maybe flirt w/ apolacypse weirdness, but they were probably some of the most selfless people I've met.

    Posted by gangpapist at 11/21/2009 @ 01:11am

42. Best I've read lately on the subject;

    Sarah Palin is neither savior (that job has been taken by the current president, or didn't you know?) nor is she satanic. She is a politician, a species of human like the rest of us.

    I'm fairly certain that if you read many of her public-policy positions but concealed her byline, many of her worst enemies would say "that sounds about right," and some of her biggest fans would say "that sounds crazy." But most people would say that her views are perfectly within the mainstream of American politics. She may be more religious than coastal elites in the lower 48, but that is something some bigots need to get over, anyway.

    I'm happy about the books she's selling thanks to the controversy over her, but that doesn't mean I think these controversies are justified. Palin holds no public office and, as of yet, is not running for one. But the Associated Press assigned eleven reporters to "fact-check" her book, while doing nothing like that to fact-check then-candidate Obama's or current Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid's no doubt riveting book.

    Posted by BigPasture at 11/21/2009 @ 01:23am

43. She can sell all the books she wants, it's when she starts burning them that problems arise.

    Whatever you say about her just being a politician may be true to an extent, but she is appealing to the far right for their support. She may even splinter off of the GOP and develop her own party or run with the conservatives that blew that Rep. race in NY.

    Posted by koroviev at 11/21/2009 @ 02:04am

44. Look a bit of advice. The stunning Sarah is the goods and that's gospel truth. I mean you haven't had too many good ones have you so why not try beauty over brawn for once.

    Posted by lrjones4 at 11/21/2009 @ 12:59am

    Man, just how many Fosters does it take to continue on like that? Sort of funny, though. She's the goods, all right. I hadn't quite heard her referenced like that before. Fawning admiration like that seems premature. Remember what happened to some Obama supporters? But your point almost makes sense, in a weird way. If we keep repeating the same mistakes... why not make a bigger one? Two rights don't make a left, but three do.

    There's this Crocodile Dundee effect going on in your last post. Kind of fun. Go catch me a cane toad, mate.

    Posted by ficheye at 11/21/2009 @ 03:27am

45. Fish, she's an empty suit, like Obama, like Bush.

    Palin is townie identity politics for Repubs. Until Bam the Dems had been putting up shitkickers exclusively clear back to LBJ. So what's the big deal?

    Posted by gangpapist at 11/21/2009 @ 12:39am

    Now, this is just me, but... I'm getting tired of the old 'Fearless Leader' routine. So I have nothing supportive to say about the ex-governor.

    The persona of the politician has reached a moment where it is so tarnished and diminished by crass financial imperatives, so bound by principles that the everyday person is not privy to, that it is quickly becoming useless as a device to promote any forward movement in our society and, instead, increasingly serves only as a springboard for division and polarity.

    I feel that way about all of our presidents, and I feel that way about the Palin phenomena. And when America makes the mistake of listening to someone like Sarah who has no real ideas, then we say as a nation 'I don't care if she has any ideas'. And then there's this other effect: LR up there is thinking like she's queen material. I got a kick out of that when I realized the subtle implications there. We're gonna have a queen! Full circle, I tell ya! Then England, the United states and Australia AND Canada can form a giant new empire to squash the asian threat!

    I have to admit to agreeing with you about the empty suit thing, all around. I guess that's what I'm talking about as well. A sad state of affairs.

    Posted by ficheye at 11/21/2009 @ 03:50am

46. <bullshit! she's a repugnant fascistic turd!

    Posted by darladoon at 11/20/2009 @ 6:53pm

    Jommama, bite me you a@#h*&e, you wouldn't know an intellectual women if she bent over and f#$ted on you, get a life loser.

    Posted by Denise29 at 11/20/2009 @ 7:14pm>

    I guess these are examples of what Stephen meant by liberal intellectuals

    Posted by antisocialist at 11/21/2009 @ 05:41am

47. Nothing you two dumbkopfs have ever posted would cause the word "intellectual" spring to mind...lock step left is the vision.

    Posted by YourJomamma at 11/20/2009 @ 7:08pm

    check a mirror...the one to your right

    Posted by erazma at 11/21/2009 @ 07:12am

48. Anti I couldnt agree with you more .What shining examples Denise and Darla are of todays liberals . What I like best about Sarah is that she brings out the true feelings of the lefties . We hear them go on and on about all their caring and concern and wanting fairness to all , but then we get to see their true selves , the hate the anger the mean snide remarks they make about Sarah . I sure wouldnt want to go thru life as unhappy and angry as them.

    Posted by limoman at 11/21/2009 @ 08:05am

49. "Drowning Jesus" (a/k/a "Touchdown Jesus"), a 62-foot-high sculpture of Christ set chest-deep in a reflecting pool at the Solid Rock Church in Monroe, Ohio,"

    I thought that was a representation of a hippy showing us how big the fish was that got away?

    -----

    The stunning Sarah is the goods and that's gospel truth. I mean you haven't had too many good ones have you so why not try beauty over brawn for once.

    Posted by lrjones4 at 11/21/2009 @ 12:59am

    "the goods"

    Really?

    List her accomplishments. Not a comparison to liberals, just hers as the New Leader of the far right. She is running now a the next talk show hostess, not a political figurine.

    What she is is a well rehearsed repeat-o-meter that barely has a new thought. Watch/listen to her on various outlets, she has the same mantra over and over and over, while saying little. Methinks she is hoping for change.

    But, for many folk, following Sarah The Empty Slogan fits neatly with eschewing science in favor of the Words of Mud Hut Dwellers from the Time of Birds is Bats and disease is caused by God. She too is UNDER ATTACK from most of America while claiming to represent most of America.

    Posted by crabwalk at 11/21/2009 @ 08:48am

50. Oh please limoman, join forces with jomamma and Anti and lrjones, but think hard, no pun intended before you think of voting for a women who is out for no one but herself, talk about a self-serving religious nut, who would have no problem taking the grand ole party down with her, and then walk away when things got to tough. But you guys go ahead, in fact please vote for her if she decides to run, talk about lack of intelligence, good g-d even Oprah quit after interviewing her!

    Posted by Denise29 at 11/21/2009 @ 08:57am

51. Posted by YourJomamma at 11/20/2009 @ 5:07pm

    Comical disdain should not be confused with fear.

    You have a fear of ACORN and mythical wmd's. We "liberals" want Sarah to run in 2012 so she can fulfill her duties as POTUS until 2013 1/2.

    In the words of PONTIFICUS, "see the difference"?

    Posted by crabwalk at 11/21/2009 @ 09:00am

52. good g-d even Oprah quit after interviewing her!

    Posted by Denise29 at 11/21/2009 @ 08:57am

    Guffaw!!

    good one.

    I note again that Jenna Jameson showed more intellectual clout and business savvy than "I'm not a quitter" former governor!!

    Which brings up another good point...Jenna Jameson represents a difficult representation for the American Taliban...on one hand she lives the American Dream. She supplies a good that is clearly desired by the consumers of America and has become very wealthy working within the capitalist society.

    But, she does it with sex!!

    If she did it with depictions of violence the American Taliban would worship her as they do Chick Norris and Jesse Ventura. But, as she does it with pleasure I am sure the cons detest her and what she stands for.

    Except she is a "producer" of jobs and wealth...

    bzzztz...bzzzt...

    ACORN!!!!!

    Posted by crabwalk at 11/21/2009 @ 09:08am

53. That would be "shining example" to you Anti.

    Posted by Denise29 at 11/21/2009 @ 09:10am

54. Ya, I bet Oprah wanted to really get down in the dirt with her but couldn't because she had to be the respectful "Host" to sweet Sarah, NOT, and couldn't take it anymore, not being able to question Sarah the way she wished she could, I mean we are talking about "Oprah", who supposedly helped get Obama elected. I bet she would of loved to have just lit into her, and gotten some true answers not the standard answers that Sarah had written on her palm.

    Posted by Denise29 at 11/21/2009 @ 09:18am

55. Please, no more coverage of this whinning, lying, back-stabbing know nothing. If the news quit covering Palin, she would dissappear. It is the news media that is shallow, even more so than Palin.

    Posted by LarryB at 11/21/2009 @ 09:42am

56. Larry B, Amen.

    Posted by Denise29 at 11/21/2009 @ 09:47am

57. Larry,you are right it is time for the circus to end.It will, as soon as the conservatives who own the majority of American media decide it's not a story anymore.For the time being it is a feel good story for conservatives who haven't had many lately.It is a welcome diversion from health care hogging the news. Who wouldn't want to cover the 2009 version of Hee Haw.Reporting live from East Lansing,Michigan Whatozz.

    Posted by whatozz at 11/21/2009 @ 09:50am

58. Thank you LarryB. Oprah and Barbara Walters did nothing but line their pockets and gather ratings by puting Palin on their shows - they surely did not ask any tough questions. For this, I am glad that Oprah is leaving.

    Maybe it is time for Baba Wawa to go too?

    Posted by JustOneBobofMany at 11/21/2009 @ 10:13am

59. I suppose Happy one good thing for the future of the human race is that they (the straight ones) are unlikely to be sought out as breeders.

    Posted by lrjones4 at 11/20/2009 @ 6:55pm

    LOL! So true.....as it's a fact they don't reproduce on the same level as us "breeders".

    However, it's also true that they are highly contagious and able to contaminate the weak-minded.....like a Mao, Castro, Mugabe, Hugo....

    We just can't seem to come up w/just the right kind of pest controls!

    Posted by Happy at 11/21/2009 @ 10:19am

60. lrjones-In the past you said that your wife is a liberal.The fact that you think that your wife is ugly and stupid explains why you have to come on here in order to stroke your own ego.Your ego isn't the only thing you have to stroke by yourself.

    Posted by i'm nobody at 11/21/2009 @ 10:37am

61. Perhaps Droopster you should contemplate this.The societies you mentioned were top heavy with people who bragged about their riches.If they had simply kept their mouths shut they might still be in power.Sounds like the Republicanparety circa 2005.

    Posted by whatozz at 11/21/2009 @ 10:39am

62. lrjones/Happy-I find brains and personality to be the turn on.It's understandable,however, that you two prefer body over brains.

    Posted by i'm nobody at 11/21/2009 @ 10:45am

63. "I guess these are examples of what Stephen meant by liberal intellectuals"

    yeah, since we won't bow down to the great sarah, we're just idiots....

    Posted by darladoon at 11/21/2009 @ 10:50am

64. Actually, YourJomamma, the vilification is more over what Palin stands for: the idea that abstemiousness and continence are the other guy's job.It's bad enough Palin is a rallying point for those proudly unable to read at grade level.

    Evangelical Christians don't walk their talk; their hovels are full of the spoors of dope, unmarried sex and welfare-taking they deride in others. They're just jealous that these others (usually liberals or radicals) are smarter than they are about it (ie, don't worry what Jesus would think since they know Jesus is about as real as the tooth fairy).

    Does anyone really think Palin cared if Bristol was riding the Johnston Express? She cared like my ass chews gum. It's the neighbor's teen daughter that's supposed to wait until marraige and then pretends she likes it. Wouldn't want her to have progeny that might require public expenditure for maintenance.

    Posted by DP in TC at 11/21/2009 @ 11:06am

65. since we won't bow down to the great sarah, we're just idiots....

    Posted by darladoon at 11/21/2009 @ 10:50am

    OK, but you believe in Magic! LOL!

    Posted by Happy at 11/21/2009 @ 11:07am

66. lrjones-It's good that you admitted that no good looking or intelligent woman would marry you.

    Posted by i'm nobody at 11/21/2009 @ 11:30am

67. yeah, since we won't bow down to the great sarah, we're just idiots....

    Posted by darladoon at 11/21/2009 @ 10:50am

    I'm glad to see you are beginning to come to grips with your shortcomings.

    Posted by antisocialist at 11/21/2009 @ 11:32am

68. To the dude from Australia who claims Palin "is the goods" (whatever that means):

    You can have her, mate. Let her run your island, hunt your dingos, pet your koalas, put stuff up your barbie. Think of her as our gift to you.

    Posted by Citizen54 at 11/21/2009 @ 11:46am

69. To the dude from Australia who claims Palin "is the goods" (whatever that means):

    You can have her, mate. Let her run your island, hunt your dingos, pet your koalas, put stuff up your barbie. Think of her as our gift to you.

    Posted by Citizen54 at 11/21/2009 @ 11:46am

    Sarah Palin is highly unlikely to ever be either a nominee or president. However she is an authentic voice (not the Leader as some leftists suggest) for conservatives in this country. And as the Gallup polling shows, conservatives once again are the largest segment of voters in the country.

    As others here have noted, the left appears genuinely frightened about Gov Palin despite their attempts to deny it.

    Posted by antisocialist at 11/21/2009 @ 12:03pm

70. antisocialist-The problem is that many of those who say they are conservatives are people who you would say are not conservatives.Why is the authentic voice of conservatives all body and no brains?

    Posted by i'm nobody at 11/21/2009 @ 12:07pm

71. I do know she is not an intellectual. No self respecting Aussie woman would want to admit to that?

    Posted by lrjones4 at 11/21/2009 @ 12:59am

    I love this!

    Is that what I think it is? "My wife really doesn't like to think... or, at least, not too much". I'll bet that her and you don't have that discussion too often. Ha!

    Conservatives here are protecting Palin because they don't like women who think too much, it seems. I'm still waiting to hear what she's supposed to stand for... except anti-intellectual comfort food, especially for those 'male dominant' facets of the world society. Sort of a weird reflection on the Taliban, when you consider it. When will a burqa be in the Eddie Bauer catalogue?

    I saw the Barbara Walters interview last night. If Palin would just say something besides the Mom and apple pie thing she might actually gain traction instead of just reenforcing her image as a phony firebrand. Yes, I can't wait for 2012. Even though running for president is supposedly not on her radar, the rest of society will be able to clearly identify the troglodyte squad here in 'our' America. And that, at the very least, serves an important function.

    Run, Sarah, run!

    Posted by ficheye at 11/21/2009 @ 12:13pm

72. from the article on touchdown jesus...

    "A 62-ft. high sculpture of Christ appears to explode from the dirt behind the amphitheater at Monroe's Solid Rock Church. From the waist down, he's underground...."

    and...

    "Lynch has created other larger-than-life sculpture in places such as Las Vegas (Caesar's big Neptune) and Disney World. Church leaders believe it is the World's Largest Christ (or at least the W.L. half-buried Messiah) and have submitted it for consideration for a Guinness World Record."

    now, lets wiki "christo redentor"

    "Christ the Redeemer (Portuguese: O Cristo Redentor, formerly Portuguese: Christo redemptor) is a statue of Jesus Christ in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil; considered the largest art deco statue in the world.[1] The statue stands 39.6 metres (130 ft) tall, including its 9.5 metre (31 ft) pedestal, and 30 metres (98 ft) wide. It weighs 635 tons (700 short tons), and is located at the peak of the 700 metres (2,300 ft) Corcovado mountain in the Tijuca Forest National Park overlooking the city. It is one of the tallest of its kind in the world. The statue of Cristo de la Concordia in Cochabamba, Bolivia, is slightly taller, standing at 40.44 metres (132.7 ft) tall with its 6.24 metres (20.5 ft) pedestal and 34.20 metres (112.2 ft) wide. A symbol of Christianity, the statue has become an icon of Rio and Brazil.[2] The statue of Christ the Redeemer is a very important symbol of Brazil's Christianity. [3] It is made of reinforced concrete and soapstone.[1][4][5]"

    christo redentor is often sacriligiously referred to as "el zobaco de cristo", zobaco meaning something akin to "underarm funk" as a result of the statue's pose with arms held wide...

    more from the first article...

    Posted by ibbleblibble at 11/21/2009 @ 12:28pm

73. And as the Gallup polling shows, conservatives once again are the largest segment of voters in the country.

    As others here have noted, the left appears genuinely frightened about Gov Palin despite their attempts to deny it.

    Posted by antisocialist at 11/21/2009 @ 12:03pm

    OK, then what happened in the last election if all of those people are really conservatives? What happened on Wall street, come to think of it? Unless, of course, the financial collapse was all the fault of the g-dless liberals. Obama wasn't the president yet and the system was already in free fall because of good old American greed and corruption. Besides making armaments and killing things, that is our greatest industry.

    And lastly... liberals aren't afraid of Palin any more than conservatives are. People, in general, fear the mass of mindless and subservient followers of the "What - me worry?" philosophy she seems to cultivate. People are tired of trying to make sense, so they are turning their minds off. Just pray and eat moose chili. That's gonna fix it.

    An inexorable descent into the nightmare, the extinction of logic as we embrace the cruelty of our shortcomings.

    Posted by ficheye at 11/21/2009 @ 12:29pm

74. "Outside, artist James Lynch was commissioned to render a fiberglass and styrofoam over metal frame depiction of Christ after the Resurrection looming over the Baptismal Pool. The figure was completed in September 2004."

    now THAT'S uhmuhrukin!!!!

    apparantly mr. lynch usually works for nevada casinos. nothing could be more appropriate for that form of shallow, showy, glitz and glitter, form over substance (or in this case styrofoam over scaffolding) than this bloated gem.

    and if it floods it floats!!!

    Posted by ibbleblibble at 11/21/2009 @ 12:31pm

75. OK, then what happened in the last election if all of those people are really conservatives? What happened on Wall street, come to think of it? Unless, of course, the financial collapse was all the fault of the g-dless liberals.

    And lastly... liberals aren't afraid of Palin any more than conservatives are. People, in general, fear the mass of mindless and subservient followers of the "What - me worry?" philosophy she seems to cultivate. People are tired of trying to make sense, so they are turning their minds off. Just pray and eat moose chili. That's gonna fix it.

    An inexorable descent into the nightmare, the extinction of logic as we embrace the cruelty of our shortcomings.

    Posted by ficheye at 11/21/2009 @ 12:29pm

    1. The polling change has been since the election. The results are from May and October of this year.

    2. Conservatives like myself voted 3rd party or others stayed away because McCain was not a true conservative candidate.

    Obama was also elected by appealing to moderates and conservatives that he would control spending, increase the effort in Afghanistan, and cut taxes to "95% of Americans".

    3. I don't know what the Wall Street bit has to do with conservatives. Wall Street has always been fairly divided among Liberal Rockefeller Republicans and Democrats. Goldman after all didn't just have Paulson, it had Corzine. Wall Street had Rubin, Geithner (at Fed) and many more

    4. The response to Palin and the Tea Parties reflect not mindlessness, but a resurgent rage from average Americans that see the US rushing headlong into bankruptcy, a more socialist govt and one world govt with the EU and the UN.

    Posted by antisocialist at 11/21/2009 @ 12:47pm

76. antisocialist-You live in very blue California.Voting third party when you live in a very red or very blue state means nothing.The response to Palin does show mindlessness as the comments about her from male conservatives prove.

    Posted by i'm nobody at 11/21/2009 @ 12:51pm

77. Your right Anti, I am afraid of her and the hate she stokes in people who are gullible, I'm afraid that it will all end in disaster, before the sheeple wake up if ever. She promotes nothing but herself, and the sheeple can't get enough, and society just gets sicker and scarier.

    Posted by Denise29 at 11/21/2009 @ 1:09pm

78. 3. I don't know what the Wall Street bit has to do with conservatives. Wall Street has always been fairly divided among Liberal Rockefeller Republicans and Democrats. Goldman after all didn't just have Paulson, it had Corzine. Wall Street had Rubin, Geithner (at Fed) and many more

    Posted by antisocialist at 11/21/2009 @ 12:47pm

    I didn't know either... it was a question meant to provoke an answer. Now I know.

    It was the godless liberals.

    Conservatives have always had the best interests of the country at heart. They wouldn't be complicit in any financial shenanigans or vote for any deregulations that would create giant loopholes in the investment structures.

    Nah.

    Posted by ficheye at 11/21/2009 @ 1:24pm

79. "Does anyone really think Palin cared if Bristol was riding the Johnston Express? She cared like my ass chews gum. It's the neighbor's teen daughter that's supposed to wait until marraige and then pretends she likes it. Wouldn't want her to have progeny that might require public expenditure for maintenance."

    Posted by DP in TC at 11/21/2009 @ 11:06am

    Hysterically funny! Keep posting! Since, along with the scabrous way with words, DP has focused like a laser beam on the undisputable truth: That the sanctiminous & pious cranks and creeps are always going apehsit about the mote in SOMEONE else's eyeball...

    Posted by PhilMcCrevice at 11/21/2009 @ 1:44pm

80. "Sarah Palin is highly unlikely to ever be either a nominee or president. However she is an *authentic voice* (not the Leader as some leftists suggest) for conservatives in this country...

    Posted by antisocialist at 11/21/2009 @ 12:03pm

    Should we take ANTISOCIAL's latest episode of sputtering anal leakage to mean that Saint Sarah *actually wrote her own book* (see: "authentic voice") with all that time on her hands after she spitefully quit her job (at a cost of a coupe hundred thousand benjamins to the public)...???

    Posted by PhilMcCrevice at 11/21/2009 @ 1:48pm

81. <i>I don't know what the Wall Street bit has to do with conservatives. Wall Street has always been fairly divided among Liberal Rockefeller Republicans and Democrats. Goldman after all didn't just have Paulson, it had Corzine. Wall Street had Rubin, Geithner (at Fed) and many more

    Posted by antisocialist at 11/21/2009 @ 12:47pm </i>

    Perhaps it can be put this way. Which of the following two options would Wall Street corporations generally prefer?

    a) Greater regulation, or

    b) Less regulation?

    Since the direction of fiscal conservatism generally inclines towards less regulation...why would Wall Street firms favor fiscal liberals over fiscal conservatives?

    Posted by Thrawn at 11/21/2009 @ 2:10pm

82. It was the godless liberals.

    Conservatives have always had the best interests of the country at heart. They wouldn't be complicit in any financial shenanigans or vote for any deregulations that would create giant loopholes in the investment structures.

    Nah.

    Posted by ficheye at 11/21/2009 @ 1:24pm

    Trying to put words to me that I didn't state?

    Corruption comes within all political beliefs given the corrupt nature of mankind.

    Posted by antisocialist at 11/21/2009 @ 2:24pm

83. Perhaps it can be put this way. Which of the following two options would Wall Street corporations generally prefer?

    a) Greater regulation, or

    b) Less regulation?

    Since the direction of fiscal conservatism generally inclines towards less regulation...why would Wall Street firms favor fiscal liberals over fiscal conservatives?

    Posted by Thrawn at 11/21/2009 @ 2:10pm

    We've not had no regulation and I doubt there are any conservatives, myself incluided who want no regulation. What is needed is sensible, enforceable regulation.

    Posted by antisocialist at 11/21/2009 @ 2:25pm

84. Umm, it's identity politics y'all. McCain needed some "diversity" on the ticket, while at the same time placating the conservatives.

    She was hardly the first non-genius VP pick.

    The lefty cracker MSM feels a strong sense of ownership of how folks what ain't old fat white guys are allowed to think, so it pounced.

    They also feel that they own sexuality, which is supposed to be a lure away from backwoods values and into the highly enlightened world of todays mindless twittering "smack that" pop culture. In the right scenario, our cultural betters even believe that they have a right to enlighten our children without their consent. The subtext of the Polanski defense seems to be that the West coast elites believe the great artiste, by opening the hillbilly girl's anus (something she may never have consented to, given the choice), opened her mind.

    The MSMs histrionic response to Palin is the equivalent of acid in the face. Not because she didn't cover her hair, but because she is not their tool for exploitation. She represents something that pre-dates the corporate, choreographed kiddie porn that the elite tastemakers who once opined on serious art, music, and culture, have rushed to embrace in the just the last decade, and she must be destroyed. Note the ecstatic glee over her daughter's unplanned pregnancy.

    Sarah Palin, a woman definitely into keeping the MSMs laws of feminine cool off her body, committed the ultimate crime against "girl power." Where the bitch should be making "transgressive" sex tapes (banal), she instead spreads those healthy gams to pop out a hideous fu**in RETARD (rogue). More acid please! This is one girl who doesn't JUST want to have fun, and for that sin against the current sexual orthodoxy, the self-appointed

    Posted by gangpapist at 11/21/2009 @ 2:43pm

85. regulators of sexuality are determined to make sure she has none.

    Posted by gangpapist at 11/21/2009 @ 2:44pm

86. eeeww!

    Posted by Denise29 at 11/21/2009 @ 2:53pm

87. gangpapist-It didn't take much to get Palin to sell out her backwoods values.It just took some new fancy clothes,hair,and make up.She went Washington DC pop quickly.Most politicians do once they get a taste of DC power.

    Posted by i'm nobody at 11/21/2009 @ 3:41pm

88. Thanks Leslie Savan for the article. I agree with you and am Catholic.

    The right wing nuttery has stolen the Christian message twisting it into the egotistical and bourgeois message of "I have the right to earn all the money I can even if it means drowning on debit card debt 75% of the American people...of course I do my Sunday Church visit.....and I don't feel repentant of anything I do."

    If one blindly opens just about any page in the Gospel, chances are that Jesus will be telling us to be compassionate, and to repent of anything we did that was not magnanimous enough, or of anything that we could to do to save someone and we did not. This is the core of His message: "Love thy neighbor, and do anything on your reach to help him/her...I will appreciate that."

    Anyone that is not able to see the wrong he/she has done in his/her past and that is happy with "creating material wealth to be richer every day" is as far from Jesus.....as Satan aka in the USA as "The Republican Party".

    That 'pray for Obama' thing is so nauseating....yes, we liberals did not like Bush because of one thing: he lied, lied, and lied. But none of us wanted him to die. And less of all, none would use religion to incite hatred and homicide. That is the exact opposite of Jesus's message. So I invite religious people of all creeds to analyze what your pastors tell you and compare it to what actually Jesus - or any other Prophet- tells you, utilize your reasoning and don't be fooled.

    Posted by Frank42 at 11/21/2009 @ 3:45pm

89. And yet another leftst attack on Sarah Palin. You should probably read her book Leslie

    Posted by gunslinger1 at 11/21/2009 @ 3:58pm

90. NEW YORK (AP) - "Going Rogue" is going big.

    Publisher HarperCollins said Friday that Sarah Palin's memoir sold 300,000 copies its first day, among the best openings ever for a nonfiction book. In 2004, Bill Clinton's "My Life" debuted with sales of 400,000 copies. The year before, Hillary Rodham Clinton's "Living History" started at 200,000.

    "Going Rogue" was released this week and its print run already has been increased from 1.5 million copies to 2.5 million, HarperCollins announced Friday. Palin, the former Alaska governor and GOP vice presidential candidate, is in the midst of a nationwide promotional tour.

    Keep knocking her.

    Posted by gunslinger1 at 11/21/2009 @ 4:00pm

91. gunslinger-What's interesting is that both sides,say,pretty much,the same things about her.It would be nice if she makes a fortune on her book since that's what she values..

    Posted by i'm nobody at 11/21/2009 @ 4:06pm

92. "Going Rogue" was released this week and its print run already has been increased from 1.5 million copies to 2.5 million, HarperCollins announced Friday. Palin, the former Alaska governor"

    Something is wrong with our educational system... maybe people that don't score well on what is called "critical intelligence" should not be allowed to vote... because they really don't know what they vote for.

    Posted by Frank42 at 11/21/2009 @ 4:14pm

93. Your right Anti, I am afraid of her and the hate she stokes in people who are gullible, I'm afraid that it will all end in disaster, before the sheeple wake up if ever. She promotes nothing but herself, and the sheeple can't get enough, and society just gets sicker and scarier.

    Posted by Denise29 at 11/21/2009 @ 1:09pm

    This is a great thread for determining what makes your average Lefty tick. My poor mate Fishie, who is obviously terrified of powerful women, is going frantically around whistling up the chimney to stop his knees knocking together (can't fool us Fishie) as he contemplates this universally popular women.

    And you, you sweet cussin little thing, just wish you were as attractive to men as this "unique mixture" woman is.

    What makes a Lefty tick?

    Here's what I gleaned from this thread. Irrational fear, envy, jealousy and the consequence of the latter two, hatred. Contrary to your feigned opinion it seems she brings out the best in men and women to whom she serves as a role model. So who's afraid of the big bad Palin? No need to put your hands up, you've already given yourselves away.

    My view of any political leader is that most are mere figure heads and the real power lies with the party and the advisers. Thus Palin would probably do no better and no worse than most you have had. I'm not a prophet or a voter but I agree with Liberty that she is unlikely to be the GOP nominee for the simple reason that she is too independent. For Lefty's, who are the ultimate in group think, that is also a crime.

    Bit busy Fishie to give you your own post now but how are you with independent women?

    Posted by lrjones4 at 11/21/2009 @ 4:18pm

94. Something is wrong with our educational system... maybe people that don't score well on what is called "critical intelligence" should not be allowed to vote... because they really don't know what they vote for.

    Posted by Frank42 at 11/21/2009 @ 4:14pm

    I agree. That was proven in the last Presidential election.

    Posted by gunslinger1 at 11/21/2009 @ 4:20pm

95. Sarah Palin is basically the same as the state of Israel---a cruel, loathsome, perversion only degenerates and vermin will lend support to.

    Posted by SmashIsrael at 11/21/2009 @ 4:26pm

96. lrjones-You don't know what a lefty is so how do you know what this thread reflects?You stated that you avoid intelligent women and only know Australian women who won't admit to being intelligent.That seems to indicate that you fear strong,independent,and intelligent women.Good thing you never met any of my former independent country girl strong ex wives and girl friends.They would kick your butt and out think you.

    Posted by i'm nobody at 11/21/2009 @ 4:28pm

97. Posted by Denise29 at 11/20/2009 @ 5:52pm: So Obama is intelligent... OK, 10.2% unemployment and absolutely clueless on how to get the market economy going. Pretty smart indeed. But that's ok, we will suffer through until the people get to speak again, for clearly, what happened in early Nov has yet to sink in.

    Posted by pyeatte at 11/21/2009 @ 4:32pm

98. "I agree. That was proven in the last Presidential election."

    Good that we agree that 48% of America did not know what do they voted for with all that black Bush/Cheney history.... unluckily you were part of it.

    People like you that are trying to put in the same stage an statesman as Bill Clinton with Sarah Palin, an intellectual pigmy that would be a national security major concern if in public office, just because they might had scored similarly in book sales.

    Did you happened to see in TV the row of people waiting to buy the book?.... All white and Christian out of several hundred.

    Posted by Frank42 at 11/21/2009 @ 4:44pm

99. palin will need to reconcile her lobbying on behalf of wall street for its bailout last year.

    she can't claim to be "one of the folks" and yet betray those folks and support wall street.

    the first intelligent reporter will ask her about this point blank, and then you'll see how her popularity falls.

    Posted by darladoon at 11/21/2009 @ 5:01pm

100. Posted by Frank42 at 11/21/2009 @ 4:44pm

     Sarah Palin had more executive experience that the present occupant of the WH. She is no less gifted as a leader than any of the other Governors who have advanced to the WH.

     I'm not saying that she will even run. But I think that by the time the next election rolls around, Obama will be so weakened for his failures that the WH will be ripe for a new occupant. He's another Jimmy Carter. Sarah can stump for any candidate that shes deems worthy and draw crowds equal to or surpassing the crowds that Obama drew.

     If Palin studies up on details so that some leftist reporter can't trip her up with a loaded question, I think she will do just fine. And she won't have to run around shouting 'Yes we can' like the robotic hoards who backed Obama. CAN WHAT?

     Did you know that the AP sent eleven fact checkers to peruse her book but zero to check out the two books that Barack Obama supposedly wrote.

     Right now Sarah Palin is in the infancy of her popularity. Her next book will deal intrinsically with policy. Voters will be able to judge for themselves if she is grounded in common sense as she claims to be or if she is all over the map.

     One thing is for damn sure. Ever since she has arrived on the scene, she's captured the imagination of the entire nation for better or worse.

     The leftwing attack machine will run it's course. sooner or later, a republican candidate will emerge. If it's Sarah, I will look forward to her debate with Obama so that she can point out all the campaign promises that he broke and the lies he told about taxes. She already made mince meat out of Joe Biden. If The McCain canpaign let her loose she may very well have brought that election home.

     GWB is a distant memory. Read her book.

     Posted by gunslinger1 at 11/21/2009 @ 5:02pm

101. Posted by darladoon at 11/21/2009 @ 5:01pm

     I don't think that Sarah needs to worry about people who don't understand the importance of Wall St. Those votes will go to Obama.

     Posted by gunslinger1 at 11/21/2009 @ 5:08pm

102. Sarah debating Obama. That's a good one. I VERY strongly doubt that she can read. But republicans felt duty bound to come up with someone stupider and more repulsive than Bush and it seems they have done just that. Just when it seems they can not sink any lower, they stun the world again.

     Posted by SmashIsrael at 11/21/2009 @ 5:10pm

103. Posted by SmashIsrael at 11/21/2009 @ 5:10pm

     Wow. Do you hate powerful women of what? Read her resume sometime. Then read Obama's.

     Posted by gunslinger1 at 11/21/2009 @ 5:18pm

104. I mean, really. It's hard to find a better argument for the liberal platform than Sarah Palin.

     Abstinence only? Yuh. That worked REAL good in YOUR depraved household, didn't it, Sarah?

     Republican hypocrisy to the nth degree?

     NOBODY beats that dumb bitch, not even Bush.

     She parades around in 100K worth of Prada wear while talking like a small town janitor and simple gal and getting all misty eyed about her pastime of hunting wolves from airplanes.

     She's scum from the toilet and everyone with a functioning neuron can see that.

     Posted by SmashIsrael at 11/21/2009 @ 5:20pm

105. Posted by SmashIsrael at 11/21/2009 @ 5:10pm

     And a Jew hater to boot. Are you of German Nazi ancestory by the way?

     Posted by gunslinger1 at 11/21/2009 @ 5:20pm

106. The left wing bias against Sarah Palin does reek with fear, but one of the more interesting details to flow out of the MSM is the fact checking being done by the AP. Seems the AP did not fact check other books by lefties like Obama or Clinton. More to the point, the AP is using 11 fact checkers on Palin's 413 pg book but only 2 fact checkers on the Senate's 2000+ pg Health-care bill...hmm.

     Posted by pyeatte at 11/21/2009 @ 5:23pm

107. Something is wrong with our educational system... maybe people that don't score well on what is called "critical intelligence" should not be allowed to vote... because they really don't know what they vote for.

     Posted by Frank42 at 11/21/2009 @ 4:14pm

     You nailed it.....for Magic, by the blacks, righto!

     You also nailed it......the youth vote for Magic!

     And the anti-war nutjobs.....

     And the anti-Patriot Act traitors.....

     Posted by Happy at 11/21/2009 @ 5:28pm

108. And a Jew hater to boot. Are you of German Nazi ancestory by the way? Posted by gunslinger1 at 11/21/2009 @ 5:20pm | ignore this person | warn this person

     I'm Jewish. You people do have an uncanny ability to ALWAYS be wrong.

     "If Palin studies up on details so that some leftist reporter can't trip her up with a loaded question, I think she will do just fine. "

     Posted by gunslinger1 at 11/21/2009 @ 5:02pm | ignore this person | warn this person

     I guess "what news sources do you read" could be contsrued as a loaded question--if the person you are addressing is AN ILLITERATE!

     "Her next book will deal intrinsically with policy. " Posted by gunslinger1 at 11/21/2009 @ 5:02pm | ignore this person | warn this person

     Her "next book"??

     I think you mean her FIRST book as we both know SHE DID NOT WRITE her own autobiography. Some born-again KOOK wrote it for her.

     Posted by SmashIsrael at 11/21/2009 @ 5:31pm

109. gunslinger-Palin wasn't gov long enough to know what leadership qualities that she may have.Other than bringing in a socialist spread the wealth program she didn't do much while drug use sky rocketed,teen pregnancy increased,and other such problems kept happening.Mostly she ran for VP and then quit Alaska in order to go on the book,talk show,and political circuit.Her popularity will end fairly soon which is why she decided to cash in on it now.

     Posted by i'm nobody at 11/21/2009 @ 5:32pm

110. Something is wrong with our educational system... maybe people that don't score well on what is called "critical intelligence" should not be allowed to vote... because they really don't know what they vote for.

     Posted by Frank42 at 11/21/2009 @ 4:14pm

     Yet liberals keep showing up at the polls and we still let them vote. go figure.

     Posted by antisocialist at 11/21/2009 @ 5:40pm

111. I'm Jewish. You people do have an uncanny ability to ALWAYS be wrong.

     "If Palin studies up on details so that some leftist reporter can't trip her up with a loaded question, I think she will do just fine. "

     Posted by gunslinger1 at 11/21/2009 @ 5:02pm | ignore this person | warn this person

     I guess "what news sources do you read" could be contsrued as a loaded question--if the person you are addressing is AN ILLITERATE!

     "Her next book will deal intrinsically with policy. " Posted by gunslinger1 at 11/21/2009 @ 5:02pm | ignore this person | warn this person

     Her "next book"??

     I think you mean her FIRST book as we both know SHE DID NOT WRITE her own autobiography. Some born-again KOOK wrote it for her.

     Posted by SmashIsrael at 11/21/2009 @ 5:31pm

     If you really are Jewish, then I can almost guarantee that you are a secular, self hating Jew who despises Orthodox Jews almost as much as you do Christians.

     Posted by antisocialist at 11/21/2009 @ 5:44pm

112. If you really are Jewish, then I can almost guarantee that you are a secular, self hating Jew who despises Orthodox Jews almost as much as you do Christians. Posted by antisocialist at 11/21/2009 @ 5:44pm | ignore this person | warn this person

     Naturally, like all Jews who are not bat shit crazy, I'm secular. Atheist.

     As Albert Einstein insisted, Judaism is an idiotic nursery rhyme--something suitable only for mixed up children. Doubtless, another "self-hating Jew"

     Get a new script, anti.

     Posted by SmashIsrael at 11/21/2009 @ 5:51pm

113. i'm just hoping she gets the 12 republican nomination. would make life easier...

     would also be a prime indicator that the republican party is on the verge of ceasing to exist and being replaced by something new...

     the woman is no intellectual giant. something of an embarrassment for those of the gop who still have some sense left, i'd think.

     but if one is fiercely proud of one's ignorance and angry at those less ignorant...

     PALIN 12!!!!!!!!

     Posted by ibbleblibble at 11/21/2009 @ 5:53pm

114. I guarantee the GOP is busy plotting right now how to pull a Tanya Harding on Palin to get her out of the way before she turns their vile party into more of a global laughingstock than it already is. She's the GOP's Osama Bin Laden---they made her and now they are dealing with the consequences.

     Posted by SmashIsrael at 11/21/2009 @ 5:58pm

115. Posted by SmashIsrael at 11/21/2009 @ 5:51pm

     It was obvious what you are...a lost soul enslaved to the filth of your mind.

     Posted by antisocialist at 11/21/2009 @ 6:17pm

116. Hey LR you have no idea how attractive I am, but you wish you knew, in your dreams matey.

     Posted by Denise29 at 11/21/2009 @ 7:14pm

117. P.S. LR, Palins alright in a plastic sort of way.

     Posted by Denise29 at 11/21/2009 @ 7:15pm

118. Somebody should rape that cunt! Who does she think she is?!

     Rape that whore and put it up on youtube for the wole world to see! That'll teach these vile christian whores!

     Posted by gangpapist at 11/21/2009 @ 7:35pm

119. PALIN HAS NO CREDIBILITY AS A "CHURCH PERSON" OR PRAYING FOR ANYONE. SHE IS A RACIST, VERY DIVISIV AND CLUELESS. IF CHRIST would come back to earth today, Palin may not even recognize him. Jesus preached all the opposites of what Palin has come to represent. Christ represents--love, not hate, oneness, not division, truthfulness, not lies, common humanity, not us verses them, sincerity, not manipulation, humility (recognizing one's flaws), not unbridled ambition, service, not inordinate ambition to lead others, forgiveness, not vindictiveness and settling old scores, and more. As for others being "shallow," this woman personifies it in a big way. Is it not the very reason why people rejected her big time in the election of 2008 and indeed rejected McCain for selecting her as a running mate. Surely, Palin is delusional. Do we need to say more? Dr. Sam

     Posted by drsam8 at 11/21/2009 @ 9:09pm

120. Hey Happ if you're out there I don't have the start-up capital, so take my idea and run with it.

     A doll that looks like an Olbermann-type poindexter, when you squeeze him he says, "Racist! Racist! Racist!" Sell it on conservative websites. Money in the bank.

     Posted by gangpapist at 11/21/2009 @ 9:24pm

121. "I don't think that Sarah needs to worry about people who don't understand the importance of Wall St. Those votes will go to Obama"

     gun, she lobbied on BEHALF OF WALL STREET.

     how can she reconcile that hypocrisy??

     you don't seem to understand that. you're just a knee-jerk palin supporter.

     Posted by darladoon at 11/21/2009 @ 9:46pm

122. ......take my idea and run with it.

     Posted by gangpapist at 11/21/2009 @ 9:24pm

     In this age of Magicnomics, any idea that requires labor-other than oneself-is a non-starter. About the only folks who will `risk' starting any new ventures, are those with a direct bead on Gubber money....like ibble.......but I'm not knocking what he's doing.

     Posted by Happy at 11/21/2009 @ 11:35pm

123. I am a Christian libertarian intellectual and respect liberal intellectuals. I enjoy reading The Nation because it gives me insights into liberal's concerns, even if I disagree. Thomas Aquinas does the same, and although I don't agree with everything in Summa Theologica, it gives me insights.

     Christianity in the US is intellectually bankrupt. The United Methodists, among others, have reached the ridiculous conclusion that their beliefs are no better than anyone else's. What kind of moron believes something he doesn't think is right or better than competing beliefs? The evangelical, fundamentalist and pentecostal churches pride themselves on their ability to hold beliefs that have no rational basis. They actively oppose supporting their beliefs rationally, and so have adopted New Age epistemology, if such a thing exists. If somebody points out that beliefs that are devoid of any rationality are simply a matter of opinion, they get mad and offended and counter the statement by accusing the person of being unsaved or worshiping his own mind. At least he has a mind to worship. Lack of rationality leads to Heaven's Gate and Jonestown. This is why they can fawn all over the right-wing politician of the month. It is very difficult to dumb down Max Lucado. If you don't know why, take about 5 minutes to read a few of his books in their entirity.

     Posted by stthomasaquinas at 11/22/2009 @ 12:04am

124. Hey LR you have no idea how attractive I am, but you wish you knew, in your dreams matey.

     Posted by Denise29 at 11/21/2009 @ 7:14pm

     Not bad!

     The more usual pick up line I get from Aussie sheilas is "Hi good lookin what's ya doing........................" (gets a bit risque and being a gentleman etc.....).

     Posted by lrjones4 at 11/22/2009 @ 01:02am

125. P.S. LR, Palins alright in a plastic sort of way.

     Posted by Denise29 at 11/21/2009 @ 7:15pm

     Phew you've passed the test. Yep you're a sheila. No worries.

     Posted by lrjones4 at 11/22/2009 @ 01:08am

126. I love this!

     Is that what I think it is? "My wife really doesn't like to think... or, at least, not too much". I'll bet that her and you don't have that discussion too often. Ha!

     Conservatives here are protecting Palin because they don't like women who think too much, it seems. I'm still waiting to hear what she's supposed to stand for... except anti-intellectual comfort food, especially for those 'male dominant' facets of the world society.

     Posted by ficheye at 11/21/2009 @ 12:13pm |

     I've been a bit busy today and just got home and had almost forgotten your post until Father Tom with his proud boast of being an intellectual reminded me of the tremendous difference in our cultures.

     Australians generally are afflicted with the tall poppy syndrome (cutting tall poppies down to size) and unlike Americans compensate by understatement. A true hero over here, when asked if he was a Thomsian Intellectual would, though he may be a specialist from the Vatican's School of Natural Theology, reply; "No bloody way mate, I'm just a brickies labourer"

     Some refer to that as the Aussie cultural cringe. So it may help you to understand why no Aussie man or Aussie woman, unless waterboarded, would "ever admit to being an intellectual".

     Incidentally I married my wife for her body. That's OK Aussie speech.

     As far as Palin goes I think Leslie Savan is playing us all for suckers with the Church Lady bit. The Nation really does a tremendous job with the prolificacy of its articles and is well served by its journos in that respect. They are obviously not in a very active journos Union. They would strike in Australia.

     However I bet she smiles all the way from that headline to the bank. This one I see as a bit of fun for all - not to be taken too seriously.

     Posted by lrjones4 at 11/22/2009 @ 02:30am

127. My view of any political leader is that most are mere figure heads and the real power lies with the party and the advisers. Thus Palin would probably do no better and no worse than most you have had. I'm not a prophet or a voter but I agree with Liberty that she is unlikely to be the GOP nominee for the simple reason that she is too independent. For Lefty's, who are the ultimate in group think, that is also a crime.

     Bit busy Fishie to give you your own post now but how are you with independent women?

     Posted by lrjones4 at 11/21/2009 @ 4:18pm

     I would agree with that top part about where the power lies. That's why my game clock is still ticking for Obama. Fairs fair, y'know? But he's gonna have to start racking up some scores. I also think that when you gain the position of POTUS you become privy to information that you didn't have before which could possibly unravel all your best intentions.

     As far as the independent women question... you mean my lovely partner Beverly, or women politicians? Independent women politicians... I just want them to shut up and do as they're told. Beverly, however, will never do that... and that's why I love her... I do all the dishes to show my appreciation... among other things.

     Posted by ficheye at 11/22/2009 @ 02:41am

128. ... regulators of sexuality are determined to make sure she has none.

     Posted by gangpapist at 11/21/2009 @ 2:44pm

     You know, that's not bad gang. I can go with that. That's fair. But when people go on too much about how she's beautiful and how she stands up for what see believes even though she hasn't really made a stand about anything crucial yet - well, the 'she's beautiful 'part seems oddly out of place. She becomes a cartoon, a figurehead... she is the great white hope.

     Say something, Sarah. Then I'll listen.

     Posted by ficheye at 11/22/2009 @ 03:11am

129. Soon as Sarah Palin has an OPEN, all media invited (not just Fox) press conference...without pre-selected questions....

     she'll prove she's going to and ABLE to run for President.

     If she doesn't....she knows it as much as we know it.

     Posted by Mask at 11/22/2009 @ 07:29am

130. The only reason Palin continues to be talked about? The media plain, and simple. As long as the media gives her the time of day? She will never go away, because she is nothing but a media whore just like many of the politicians in office. At least she would fit in with the rest of the morons. We could eliminate many of the problems we have in Washington if only we could introduce a term limit bill.

     That would stop much of the lobbying, and buying your position. Palin is not an honest person even when she gets caught in a lie (laughing)? She will lie about the lie!

     Posted by sheila60 at 11/22/2009 @ 07:39am

131. Dear God, If Palin were ever to become President in 2012? I would just hope the rumors about 12-21-12 being the end of things will be true before she can take office in January.

     That would be a blessing for all humanity. Of course I see Palin as President like I see 2012 occurring! She is a huge liar, and for those that comment about her fiathfulness in sleeping with only Todd. Well, it appears many for got about the affair with his best friend? Good Lord, you folks are gullible!

     Posted by sheila60 at 11/22/2009 @ 07:43am

132. The Christian religion is morally bankrupt and has been since they got into politics. They have made it clear it's more important to shove their anti-abortion, anti-gay, anti-birth control agenda down American's throats than it is to clean up their house and start practicing their religion. They are more than willing to overlook corruption, stealing, lying and unbridled greed if it further their goals of Christianizing this country. Sarah Palin is one of the worst. She speaks to all that is wrong in the Republican Party and Christianity today...Fundamentalism. They have become so imbued with their false sense of righteousness they don't even resemble the religion I was raised in. They aren't in the business of saving souls anymore. They are in the business of raking in tax free dollars and shoving their brand of morality down all American's craws. They are giving the religion a bad name.

     Posted by ganddw42 at 11/22/2009 @ 07:58am

133. It seems as though beauty pageant politics isn't going to get it done.How do you fear someone that can't quote the Anchorage Times as a reading source.Are the media covering or making the story.One day Wasilla,next day Washington.If she would have swung the vote Time magazine would have had the political soothsayer John Mccain on its cover.

     Posted by whatozz at 11/22/2009 @ 08:12am

134. What is needed is sensible, enforceable regulation.

     Posted by antisocialist at 11/21/2009 @ 2:25pm

     WOW, Larry is actually a godless liberal!!!

     ----------

     Here's what I gleaned from this thread. Irrational fear, envy, jealousy and the consequence of the latter two, hatred. LRJONES

     Evidently you gleaned what you wished to see. Similar to you gleaning from Iraq that the "coalition" has won the war, yet still needs 100k soldiers on the ground fighting daily.

     How an intelligent person could read "We want Sarah to run in 2012" as evidence of "fear" is truly beyond my simple brain. Maybe it goes in the same logic path as seeing the forged Niger documents as "proof".

     Is this more in line with basing "core values" on myths, metaphors and squishy ethics? As I read this blog I keep seeing this line that liberals "fear" Sarah, but I keep reading liberals laughing at her and those that have a strong desire to be one of her followers. Where does the disconnect come from? Why do people want to climb on the Sarah bus, when she has no policy statements to follow, little experience to judge by and is offering little but platitudes and sound bites?

     Oh, sorry, I forgot the Bush years and the sycophantic clamor of those that loved GWB but now call him a liberal. Why do they call him a liberal BTW? Because the conservative policies he pushed failed and they do not have the intellectual honesty to admit it, so they revert to the easy button, fear and hatred of "the left". It rights policies and candidates failed it obviously isn't the fault of their ideology, it MUST be that the failed ideology is actually "leftist". If it were otherwise they would have to reappraise their own ideology and that would take self reflection. They don't do self reflection, they do blame.

     Posted by crabwalk at 11/22/2009 @ 08:55am

135. "If the rights policies and candidates failed..."

     typo.

     Todd

     and

     God

     Repeat after me...

     Todd

     and

     God

     (and guns)

     Todd

     and

     God

     (and guns)

     Todd

     and

     God

     Todd

     and

     God

     "Have you seen Todd?"

     Posted by crabwalk at 11/22/2009 @ 08:59am

136. lrjones-We all know about men who like to brag about women like you're doing with your claim that Aussie women try to pick you up by calling you good looking.Save your fantasy world claims about what a stud you are for the mens locker room where it belongs.

     Posted by i'm nobody at 11/22/2009 @ 10:17am

137. There's a boring football game on, so I'll confide to you guys, cause you're special, a secret.

     I have personally made love to Sarah Palin. It was a deeply spiritual experience.

     You know that scene in "The Rules of Attraction" where that dorm-room jumkie guy shoots up some smack and starts yelling, "I can feel my dick! I can feel my dick!"

     Well it was nothing like that. It was like my purest, most basic emotions: my hatred for towelheads and homosexuals, were stripped down to their rawest, nakedest form, the quivering, pink, larvae of bigotry, then drained of their precious hateful essence, freebased, and shot through my veins. A lightning bolt of white supremacy bullet trained up my spine and exploded inside my tiny cerebrum into a million points of light.

     As she dug her fingernails into my chiseled traps and delts, my entire epidermis sizzled with a holy islamophobia. And as she pushed her strap-on deeper into my rectum, I was Spirit-filled with a religiosity so powerful it could unwed an army of adams and steves.

     When we were done we held on to each others wet, shivering, naked bodies and inhaled deeply the sweet smoldering smoke of dried and cured intolerance.

     So I guess, what I'm saying is, I know something about the true power of the Sexual Personae of Palin, that maybe y'all don't.

     Posted by gangpapist at 11/22/2009 @ 5:13pm

138. Now that's what I am talking about!

     Put this into book form right now. Your muse is speaking.

     Holy Islamophobia.

     That is so good. I've been yanking your chain a little, but you just hit it out of the park. I give.

     Posted by ficheye at 11/22/2009 @ 7:04pm

139. Posted by crabwalk at 11/22/2009 @ 08:55am

     Crabs I like you so I don't know how to break this gently to you.........Psst, Come closer. I'll whisper in your ear. Preacherman you need a new script writer.

     Posted by lrjones4 at 11/22/2009 @ 8:01pm

140. I'm telling you, LR... it's like you got into the night whiskey, mate.

     Is your wife posting while you are on vacation?

     Posted by ficheye at 11/22/2009 @ 9:10pm

141. i guarantee you, palin has never had an orgasm.

     Posted by darladoon at 11/22/2009 @ 9:58pm

142. Is your wife posting while you are on vacation?

     Posted by ficheye at 11/22/2009 @ 9:10pm

     Nah. Crabs is OK but he plays a guitar so the idiom needs to be a bit different. Just didn't want to embarrass him so made it sort of private.

     Nice lazy late Spring Monday afternoon here at work. So I think I'll change the idiom a bit more and go and chat up the secretary. Bit of a doll. Then off home to clock on for home duties. Does your girl cut the grass? Mine doesn't like me cutting the lawn. Says I don't do it properly. Not a bad lurk to get out of home duties though if you can get away with it. I'm pretty sure mine's an independent women.

     Posted by lrjones4 at 11/22/2009 @ 10:06pm

143. Nope I've only got one but...... so that should be woman

     Posted by lrjones4 at 11/22/2009 @ 10:11pm

144. Nope I've only got one but...... so that should be woman Posted by lrjones4 at 11/22/2009 @ 10:11pm

     You're a funny man. How you get out of doing the lawn is going to linger with me though. Aren't you an engineer? You could design a yard without a lawn. I digress.

     Another time, another blog.

     Posted by ficheye at 11/23/2009 @ 12:18am

145. Preacherman you need a new script writer.

     Posted by lrjones4 at 11/22/2009 @ 8:01pm |

     Why? The plot has not changed much. Even as gong and gun want us to see Chimpy McFlightsuit into the sunset, we are living with his messes...messes that ya'll seek to blame on "the left" and seek to have Lipstick solve, even though she has not a clue.

     Posted by crabwalk at 11/23/2009 @ 08:13am

146. BTW, publicly, the Right will always stick up for Palin against "liberal assaults"...

     but if she ran in 2012, once in the voting booths during the Primaries...her "poor little ol' me" stuff and general anxiety about her level of intellect...

     would get the lever pulled for Romney, Pawlenty, DeMint, Barbour, etc....not her.

     Then after they finished voting against her...they'd come on the blogs and "explain" that "the reason she lost was because the Liberal MSM smeared her!!!"

     Posted by Mask at 11/23/2009 @ 08:19am

147. lrjones-You're pretty sure your wife is independent?Why don't you know who she is?The fact that your wife has to mow the lawn because you're too lazy and incompetent to perform a simple task doesn't mean she's independent.It just means that you still need your mommy to take care of you.

     Posted by i'm nobody at 11/23/2009 @ 10:24am

148. I have puzzled about Ms. Palin more in terms of the face she chooses to present to the world as opposed to the real thing. Take, for example, her studied effort to present herself as a God-fearing person and as a good Christian. Therefore, it is not unfair to judge her by the standard she has set for herself and her politics, especially as she has shown a penchant for judging others by it. Thus, she says, rather arrogantly, that she would pray for those who are criticizing her. She denounces other people's action as "pure evil," and readily uses her religion to loudly take a stand on her politics. A sage has said, "don't tell me anything about who you are; I see"! And what do we see in Palin. Are those who see her as a phony justified? Let's see. It would seem that Jesus preached all the opposites of what Palin has come to represent. Christ represents--love, not hate and division (surely not "us versus them"), oneness and brotherhood, not separation, truthfulness, not untruth, forgiveness, not vindictiveness and payback politics, sincerity, not manipulation, humility (recognizing one's flaws), not constantly seeing others as the problem (remember Jesus emphasizing that we acknowledge our own flaws--remove first the plank in your own eyes, he said), inordinate desire for attention as opposed simple living and selfless service, simplicity and moderation instead of showmanship, working with the poor instead of loving a life of celebrity, and more. Palin calls others "shallow;" but what substance has she shown so far in her words and politics? Is it not the reason reasonable people were alarmed about her being McCain's pick as a running mate in the Presidential campaign of 2008 and why the electorate rejected Sen. McCain in the end? Over all, I feel that if Christ w

     Posted by drsam8 at 11/23/2009 @ 10:47am

149. Has anyone here seen the lastest GALLOP polls on Obamas poll numbers and Sarahs?

     Posted by YourJomamma at 11/23/2009 @ 11:14am

150. Posted by YourJomamma at 11/23/2009 @ 11:14am

     Drudge sychophants have, Maasch...so tell us.

     Posted by Mask at 11/23/2009 @ 11:33am

151. yourjomamma-You can't compare their poll numbers.Obama is in a position of responsibility and Palin is not.It's easier to rate her higher since she has no meaning in our lives and can't affect our lives..

     Posted by i'm nobody at 11/23/2009 @ 11:34am

152. You know, about the only thing more predictable then the reactions of the uniformed anti-Palin bunch whenever she raises here head is traffic reaction to a light change. Really kind of pathetic.

     Posted by CHIP THORNTON at 11/23/2009 @ 11:50am

153. I actually meant uniformed, but as I look at it, "UNinformed would have worked just as well.

     Posted by CHIP THORNTON at 11/23/2009 @ 11:53am

154. chip-Palin supporters know nothing about her other than what she looks like.There are only a handful of people who lived or live in Alaska who knew or know anything about her.The rest of you just had a knee jerk reaction to her and still are.

     Posted by i'm nobody at 11/23/2009 @ 11:54am

155. Actually I"M NOBODY, I'm about three quarters of the way through the book, which I bought and planned to read (even putting the Mongol Novel I'm writing aside for a week or so, precisely so that I WOULD be a little more informed about it all. So unless you consider everything she says as a lie, then I'm past the "knee jerk, she's a babe" stage.

     Two things are certain, though. If the right wing doesn't really know anything about her, the the Left wing really doesn't either, since I'm almost certain most Arianna Huffington types are not the trek-through the-wilderness-type.

     Secondly, those lefties who DO choose to risk losing their teeth through over-gnashing stand to BE more informed by reading the book. Otherwise they won't really have much to say (which won't stop them of course).

     ct

     Posted by CHIP THORNTON at 11/23/2009 @ 12:14pm

156. Posted by YourJomamma at 11/23/2009 @ 11:14am

     Drudge sychophants have, Maasch...so tell us.

     Posted by Mask at 11/23/2009 @ 11:33am

     Actualy, MSNBC..

     But I am sure you know the numbers, as does the entire paniced left, where you seem to be very much at home.

     Posted by YourJomamma at 11/23/2009 @ 12:17pm

157. Churches on every corner. English-speaking, Creole, Spanish. Just disgusting, all these black fascist Christians. I can see the hatred in their shifty eyes as they exit their temples of hatred. You know they want to kill a faggot. That's the only reason they go to church, to hear some little black hitler talk about killing faggots.

     Posted by gangpapist at 11/20/2009

     I only have one question, Are you off your friggin meds buddie. I hear sounds of major paranoia in your writings. They do create drugs to help you manage this disease!

     Sadly they don't create drugs to help with Palin's problem-Stupidity!!!

     Posted by DrPiggy at 11/23/2009 @ 12:22pm

158. yourjomamma-You can't compare their poll numbers.Obama is in a position of responsibility and Palin is not.It's easier to rate her higher since she has no meaning in our lives and can't affect our lives..

     Posted by i'm nobody at 11/23/2009 @ 11:34am

     Then why the constant attention from the left media and the fear?

     "Palin supporters know nothing about her other than what she looks like.There are only a handful of people who lived or live in Alaska who knew or know anything about her.The rest of you just had a knee jerk reaction to her and still are.

     Posted by i'm nobody at 11/23/2009 @ 11:54am"

     I know the left likes to believe this...but you all voted for Obama and he was never vetted...and you voted for him inspite of what was known, ie., no resume.....community organizer and the rest of the nonsense...

     I am perplexed that the news organisations sent 11 idiots to fact check Palin, who is a nobody with but a former office holder and a nothing, as you say,...and sent nobody to do the same with the guy in the WH or even the worls famous idiot.ALGORE.

     This doesn't add up....

     and all see it.

     Posted by YourJomamma at 11/23/2009 @ 12:23pm

159. Palin is nothing more than a "reality-show contestant wannabe". She's gropping at her 10 mins of fame just like that idiot of a ex-son-in-law Levi! What disturbs me is that there are people out there falling for her rants of stupidity all because she looks "pretty". Give me a break people!! So if the devil looks "Hot" are you following him/her into hell!!! Use your heads not your private parts to make important decisions that impact all of us.

     Posted by DrPiggy at 11/23/2009 @ 12:50pm

160. Posted by crabwalk at 11/23/2009 @ 08:13am

     Iraq is looking better every day to me Crabs. So I won't be blaming anybody not Bush, not Obama not even you for failing to grasp what has been accomplished.

     Blame is not my game. Solutions to problems is what energizes me. Thank you King George. Thank you Obama for continuing his insightful policies in the region. And thank you America for being the world's good cop. Oh almost forgot, thank you Crabs for reminding me of all we have to be grateful for.

     ps how you going lookin for that new script writer?

     Posted by lrjones4 at 11/23/2009 @ 12:52pm

161. yourjomamma-I'm not a lefty and didn't vote in the last election.When it came right down to it I couldn't go with Obama due to the lack of experience.I didn't mind McCain,but Palin was too fanatical for me and because of McCains age I feared Palin could end up president.I have to walk quite a ways in order to vote and walking is quite painful and none were worth the pain so I didn't vote.My views of Palin are based on my knowledge of Alaska and based on being non partisan.Your views are based on partisan politics.

     Posted by i'm nobody at 11/23/2009 @ 12:54pm

162. yourjomamma-What you guys don't understand is that Palin only talks conservative,but didn't govern as a conservative.She was all over the map.

     Posted by i'm nobody at 11/23/2009 @ 12:59pm

163. What a hoot! A poll comparing Obama to Palin?

     She hasn't had a chance to do anything but complain and play the prom queen victim act. And no one, I repeat, NO ONE here that's standing up for her has shone a light upon her policy opinions. That's because there aren't any.

     She just wants to tell us about her son Trig, what a great American she is. How she likes to shoot things. How people 'just don't get it'. And what about the 'real Americans' comment?

     People who like her just avoid these tender subjects. They change the topic to 'why are you attacking her?'. I'm anxious to actually read her book and hear about her opinions on foreign policy.

     Right up front I'll tell you that I think Max Blumenthal's opinion piece about her is right on. She thinks that she is a victim and she plays on the sympathies of those who also feel victimized.

     I've got my issues with Obama's performance at present, but to try to make a comparison is just silly. I won't say stupid, because that would almost infer that we're talking to adults here.

     After quitting as Governor - as in 'quitting her job' - she seems much more qualified to lead a girl scout group. I'm serious. She's a mother figure. I can see where that might appeal to some folks.

     Try this: In your minds eye, put her in the same room as Putin; or maybe the leader of Pakistan. Or Hamid Karzai. All the important world arenas. How is she going to do? What's she going to say? How are they going to treat her? Look folks... Mom is not going to help you out here. She's gonna go make some moose chili.

     Posted by ficheye at 11/23/2009 @ 1:23pm

164. Posted by YourJomamma at 11/23/2009 @ 12:17pm

     I'm sure it's just a "coincidence", Maasch.

     BTW, she's not hitting all the polls running. There are still polls that show she has lackluster support....among Republicans.

     But like many, I'll be first in line to donate to her Primary bid....she'll either mortally wound Romney or Pawlenty....

     or guarentee Obama 45 states and 20 million vote margin.

     Posted by Mask at 11/23/2009 @ 1:27pm

165. yourjomamma-The reason that Palin governed all over the map is because,like most politicians,she's a weak person who did what her handlers told her to do,like most politicians.

     Posted by i'm nobody at 11/23/2009 @ 1:29pm

166. yourjomamma-I know I'm not a lefty because you guys say that lefties are people who dislike conservative women.I married two conservative women,lived with two other conservative women and dated several other conservative women.I do not discriminate based upon race,religion,or political ideology.

     Posted by i'm nobody at 11/23/2009 @ 1:40pm

167. If anyone watches "Yes Minister" or "Yes Prime Minister" the euphemism for "stupid" is "courageous".

     We no doubt have a "courageous" woman who has written a "courageous" book.

     Any thoughts of running for President can only be described as, well, "courageous".

     ------------------- free episodes on 56.com: [use search term "yes minister"]

     Posted by canadiankid at 11/23/2009 @ 2:06pm

168. Give me a break people!! So if the devil looks "Hot" are you following him/her into hell!!! Use your heads not your private parts to make important decisions that impact all of us.

     Posted by DrPiggy at 11/23/2009 @ 12:50pm

     Look what happened to Obama. For the very reasons you seem to believe about Palin.

     Posted by YourJomamma at 11/23/2009 @ 2:35pm

169. yourjomamma-What you guys don't understand is that Palin only talks conservative,but didn't govern as a conservative.She was all over the map.

     Posted by i'm nobody at 11/23/2009 @ 12:59pm

     Do or have you live in Alaska when she governed? I haven't and I would not vote for her for President,

     and although I feared Obama much mor than anything Palin would do...

     all my Obama fears have come true and worse...we are going to sink further before this guy becomes a foot note in history.

     Posted by YourJomamma at 11/23/2009 @ 2:40pm

170. They change the topic to 'why are you attacking her?'.

     Posted by ficheye at 11/23/2009 @ 1:23pm

     That's because Sarah Palin is not the issue. "Sarah Palin" is. She's a foil for Left-wing hatred. That's it.

     For me it's just dangling a string of sausages before the hungry Dolbermanns. Fun!

     And the "one heart attack away" stuff is tired. If we know anything it's that feeble old Republican guys NEVER die in office.

     Posted by gangpapist at 11/23/2009 @ 2:40pm

171. Posted by YourJomamma at 11/23/2009 @ 12:17pm

     I'm sure it's just a "coincidence", Maasch.

     BTW, she's not hitting all the polls running. There are still polls that show she has lackluster support....among Republicans.

     But like many, I'll be first in line to donate to her Primary bid....she'll either mortally wound Romney or Pawlenty....

     or guarentee Obama 45 states and 20 million vote margin.

     Posted by Mask at 11/23/2009 @ 1:27pm

     It doesn't matter which polls Mask...your boy is dropping like a stone in water..before long, at this rate, his support will be near bottom...he will maintain support no matter what from 99% of blacks, 100% of the uber libs(this site and its same in kind) and a few hispanics...maybe around 38% of all voters...

     and I am not so sure about your 20 million vote margin. I believe , at this juncture, Obama will be a foot note in history as we traverse through a series of 1 term Presidencys....none of them being meaningfull....but all of them ectremelyt dangerous to our libertys..especially this current cabal.

     Posted by YourJomamma at 11/23/2009 @ 2:45pm

172. And Mask,

     Palin will not be the nominee even if she throws he hat in the ring...I think she took a page out of ALGORES book...lose and you win in other areas.

     Palin will, however,be a huge force for the $ coffers for repubs and will be gigantic help going into districts of Dem congressmen who voted for all the spending horse shit...

     she will raise a ruckus and take a huge piece out of the Dems hide this election season...and as far as 2012 Presidencial...too early.

     The Repubs need a conservative ...without any religious, (Romney), tax issues(Rangels et al), sexual trysts(which bother conservatives, but not libs), and must have experience in some kind of elected office or running a successful business. The after taste of Obama and his zero experience at anything will be hard to wash out of the disappointed voters mouths by then...

     And yes, Bush can still be blamed..he gave us Obama.

     Posted by YourJomamma at 11/23/2009 @ 2:52pm

173. yourjomamma-I didn't live there when she was gov,but know the people she knew,like those in the AIP,militia groups,etc.I fear all politicians equally.What's funny about you guys thinking I'm a lefty is that I'm still much closer to being the redneck country boy biker that I was than a lefty.I even talk like a redneck which my English major wife likes to point out.I hung out with militia,AIP types.In my guts I'm still a sexist and homophobe.My gut reaction to Palin is that she belongs at home taking care of the kids.My gut reaction to gay guys is that they belong as far away from me as possible.Since starting my Spiritual adventure I have learned that it's wrong to be a homophobe and sexist and some of these other things so I'm working on it by being for gay marriage,getting to know some more gay people,and I married a strong liberal woman who supports me.In the past,the wife stayed at home,even the rich liberal one.We didn't even use much much of her money.I worked,hunted,fished,etc and she took care of the kids.

     Posted by i'm nobody at 11/23/2009 @ 2:57pm

174. Posted by YourJomamma at 11/23/2009 @ 2:52pm

     Maasch...You can easily imagine a scenario whereby Obama hits 35% job approval by the end of his second year in office, can't you?

     So can I.....cuz it happened.

     January 1983 Gallup poll, Presidential Job Approval.

     Rest your hopes on the polls....they sure worked out well for you on your endless "Hillary is going to be the nominee, no ifs, ands, or buts", didn't it?

     Posted by YourJomamma at 11/23/2009 @ 2:52pm

     BTW, why is Romney's religion an "issue" that disqualifies him?

     Posted by Mask at 11/23/2009 @ 3:17pm

175. IM NOBODY, Keep in mind that "Sexist" and "Homophobe" are just labels invented by someone to get you to think a certain way. They are non-words. Unless you hate women and Gays to the point where you would do them harm then you have no problem. You have the right to feel about them any way you wish. I would say never refrain from taking constructive criticism, but be discriminatory in determining what is "constructive", and never judge your own worth or thoughts by the values of others.

     CT

     Posted by CHIP THORNTON at 11/23/2009 @ 3:18pm

176. Posted by i'm nobody at 11/23/2009 @ 2:57pm

     I can relate to your "journey" except for the country boy part. I was raised by nice evangelicals in Obama country (South Side!), went lib, then turned into a crazed rightwinger post 9/11, even going so far as to put down my john barth novel and join the forces of imperialism as an Army grunt. The weird thing is I still see myself as liberal.

     I don't want to insult your intelligence but umm, this is not the like, Moynihanish, live-and-let-live section of the Left. You might find them at the Atlantic, TNR, Vanity Fair, a few at Salon. This is the Bernardine Dohrn "kill your parents" set over here. The star of this mag, Cockburn, is an unreconstructed Stalinist whose gut feelings about 99.9% of humanity is that they are provincialist scum. Just sayin. Anyway good luck.

     Posted by gangpapist at 11/23/2009 @ 3:20pm

177. As others here have noted, the left appears genuinely frightened about Gov Palin despite their attempts to deny it.

     Posted by antisocialist at 11/21/2009 @ 12:03pm

     Palin/God, 2012!

     Do I LOOK frightened?

     Posted by Stephen_Carver1 at 11/23/2009 @ 3:27pm

178. Chip-I figured out that it was my manly macho redneck biker image that got in the way of my heart being able to see that women had more uses than just satisfying my nonstop erection and manly ego and taking care of all those kids that kept showing up.The more I get to know gay guys the less threat to my manly ego they are.

     Posted by i'm nobody at 11/23/2009 @ 3:32pm

179. Stephen_Carver1, Haha!

     Posted by Denise29 at 11/23/2009 @ 3:40pm

180. And the anti-war nutjobs.....

     And the anti-Patriot Act traitors.....

     Posted by Happy at 11/21/2009 @ 5:28pm

     Happy, name calling didn't work for your side for eight years: the anti-war nutjobs just turned out to be right about almost everything (unlike Bush and his pals), and I am tired of being called an "anti Patriot Act traitor" because I believe in the civil rights guaranteed to all of us by the Constitution. You know, things like privacy.

     You must not have any skeletons in your closet if you like the idea of the government invading your home rendering you to a foreign country to be tortured and being spied on by you phone company. You say you hate big Gov't, yet every time Republicans get into power, the government grows even bigger. I guess you would call that being true to your ideals.

     Posted by Stephen_Carver1 at 11/23/2009 @ 3:42pm

181. gangpapist-I realize that lots of crazy people hang out here,but I'm partial to crazy people.

     Posted by i'm nobody at 11/23/2009 @ 3:44pm

182. Think of her ass, our gift to you. Posted by Citizen54 at 11/21/2009 @ 11:46am | ignore this person | warn this person

     Posted by emile duBois at 11/23/2009 @ 3:45pm

183. Try this: In your minds eye, put her in the same room as Putin; or maybe the leader of Pakistan. Or Hamid Karzai. All the important world arenas. How is she going to do? What's she going to say? How are they going to treat her? Look folks... Mom is not going to help you out here. She's gonna go make some moose chili.

     Posted by ficheye at 11/23/2009 @ 1:23pm

     Fich, I agree with you but let's let our rightie friends try this: Put Palin in a room with the Republican-Conservative icon of female politicians: Maggie Thatcher, and see how she compares.

     Larry (anti), or Happy, or YJ, or any conservative: care to make THAT comparison?

     (silence from the right)

     Yeah, I thought not.

     Posted by Stephen_Carver1 at 11/23/2009 @ 4:17pm

184. Mask,

     Yup, I was wrong about Hillary for President but then again she stopped campaign planning after Super Tuesday and as a result lost by "not winning even tho she won every primary in the end". The delegate fiasco for counting purpopses cost her the spot.

     Any rate..as I have always mentioned, the only poll that matters is election day.

     I dont think Romney is disqualified by his religion, but I think it will be an issue for all the libs who fear religion and its values more than anything plus there are fundementalists who will not vote for him based on THEIR beliefs. Either way, as usual, any Repub, much less a conservative, has an uphill battle fighting the dem candidates, the press, the unions slush funds, and now ACORN(another jewel in the corriupt political arsenal of the left)..and stacked coverage in general.

     I think Rommney will have a Mormon issue like Kennedy had a catholic issue...it took Old Joe to buy the election with union help in West Virgina ...Romney , for me seems fine, but I think the press, which is now solidly a wing of the Dem party, will hammer the shit out of the Mormon thing mercilesly, all th while pointing out how the right doesn't like him for that, whether true or not..he will be papered by the press.

     Posted by YourJomamma at 11/23/2009 @ 4:24pm

185. I think Rommney will have a Mormon issue like Kennedy had a catholic issue...it took Old Joe to buy the election with union help in West Virgina ...Romney , for me seems fine, but I think the press, which is now solidly a wing of the Dem party, will hammer the shit out of the Mormon thing mercilesly, all th while pointing out how the right doesn't like him for that, whether true or not..he will be papered by the press.

     Posted by YourJomamma at 11/23/2009 @ 4:24pm

     YJ, it was the diehard conservative christians who had a problem with Romney's religion, or did you forget that he already ran for President last year and got walloped by McCain?

     Or are you blaming his Republican primary losses on the so-called left wing press?

     Posted by Stephen_Carver1 at 11/23/2009 @ 5:49pm

186. As others here have noted, the left appears genuinely frightened about Gov Palin despite their attempts to deny it.

     Posted by antisocialist at 11/21/2009 @ 12:03pm

     You already know this to be wrong.

     It's the people who think Palin would be a good president. That's who all the 'leftists' are afraid of, and a lot more people as well. It's the mass of stupid growing on a portion of the brain which was heretofore tumor free and healthy.

     You have been misinterpreting this from the beginning. We've got our own growing mongol horde. I think the mystifying part is that a lot of folks here think that Palin threatens anyone. She just discloses a whole hunk of the idiot population that doesn't know what they think... so they glorify her.

     Take the Palin challenge!

     Write down her five most cogent points of view on important foreign policy and economic topics. Come on... let your fingers creep over to that keyboard... do it now....

     Posted by ficheye at 11/23/2009 @ 6:27pm

187. Palin fans.....in their own words-

     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKKKgua7wQk

     Posted by Mask at 11/23/2009 @ 6:35pm

188. Posted by AmericanMuser at 11/20/2009 @ 10:39pm

     "...should not be so quick to dismiss or disregard the future of Sarah Palin. No other national political figure so completely fills Middle America's vacuum of frustration and hate for the Left and Right as Sarah Palin."

     Can you point to the "left" in American politics? Maybe Bernie Sanders? And who's upset with him, really?

     Posted by lrjones4 at 11/20/2009 @ 11:41pm

     "...the delicious Sarah is pure royalty."

     lrjones, a man who loves talking of conquests, of the Australian army and ugly women.

     Posted by YourJomamma at 11/20/2009 @ 7:08pm

     "Nothing you two dumbkopfs have ever posted would cause the word "intellectual" spring to mind...lock step left is the vision."

     John Maasch, a man deeply let down by the public education system, who - when he is not exploiting sweat shop labor in China - enjoys the hobby of being arbitrator or intelligent commentary on The Nation. So good for you to provide this valuable service.

     Posted by pyeatte at 11/21/2009 @ 4:32pm

     " So Obama is intelligent... OK, 10.2% unemployment and absolutely clueless on how to get the market economy going."

     Obama took office with unemployment at 7.6%, a rate that we haven't seen since the early 90s when the previous George Bush was in office. It took Clinton more than a year to get that number trending down, and it took three years to get it below 6%.

     I don't imagine you are much of a history buff. But, if you think fixing unemployment happens by magic after a Bush is been in office, you haven't been paying attention.

     Posted by gangpapist at 11/23/2009 @ 2:40pm

     "That's because Sarah Palin is not the issue. "Sarah Palin" is. She's a foil for Left-wing hatred. That's it."

     Let's all gather round, hold hands and talk about our feelings.

     Posted by srjenkins at 11/23/2009 @ 6:55pm

189. Posted by antisocialist at 11/21/2009 @ 12:03pm

     "As others here have noted, the left appears genuinely frightened about Gov Palin despite their attempts to deny it."

     Please. Please. Please. Run Palin. I suggest you buy her book. As soon as she is taking contributions, give to her campaign.

     She's the Al Sharpton of the Republican Party. She's going to milk conservatives for their money, then she's going to bag out and sell her influence for money. She's going to ride you all and put you away, all wet.

     You want 4 more yours of the O? Go for it.

     Posted by srjenkins at 11/23/2009 @ 7:03pm

190. Posted by ficheye at 11/23/2009 @ 6:27pm

     "Write down her five most cogent points of view on important foreign policy and economic topics."

     Looking at the Political positions of Sarah Palin Wikipedia page, that's easy.

     1. Status quo on military intervention.

     2. Unqualified support of Israel.

     3. Sound government fiscal policy.

     4. Lower taxes.

     5. Foreign policy and economic policies are driven by a social conservative agenda that wants government intervention in the home but not in the board room.

     A true schizophrenic conservative that does not realize that 1 and 2 make it impossible to have 3 and 4. As for 5, it speaks for itself.

     Posted by srjenkins at 11/23/2009 @ 7:14pm

191. While we are on the subject of prayer how's this:

     That the hypocrite reign not, lest the people be ensnared.

     Job 34:30

     Posted by northwind1 at 11/23/2009 @ 9:05pm

192. Posted by northwind1 at 11/23/2009 @ 9:05pm | ignore this person | warn this person

     Your right, time for a "recall" election!

     Posted by BigPasture at 11/23/2009 @ 9:25pm

193. Why is fact checking savaging. Any prominent politician is going to be fact checked if they write a book, and especially if people are being characterised in a damaging way. If the facts represented by Mrs Palin are accurate there isn't a problem, no matter how many fact checkers are employed.

     Posted by fangorn1 at 11/24/2009 @ 12:19am

194. Palin will never run for President and if she does she will not get the nomination.

     What she will do, and this is the real point of fear for the left, is she will raise billions for the GOP and will have a huge influence on who the GOP picks and she will be used to campaign in the districts of Dem congressmen who voted for this piece of shit that Pelosi and Reid have just coughed up, as well as the uber spending socialist crap destroying the national wealth engine and currency. She will be heard loud and clear about a return to the Constitution which was designed to protect men FROM govt intrusion, NOT to have 1/2 the population working for govt and sending the bill to the few left paying for the whole mess.

     Yes, the left should be afraid, for if Obama and cabal in Congress continues down this drunken spending spree with debts into the next 200 years as America sinks to world parity of medocrity because of the history of liberal govt here.. then the fear of Palin will be realised.

     She may well have power more potent than the Presidency..she may have the power to remove him and all the others in the left run Congress...and do it without the corrupted criminal ACORN or the multitude of front groups all funded with stimulus money to be used to buy votes for the next election.

     She just might be able to do it with massive fund raising from ordinary people....community organising of a sorts, except this time those going to the polls in droves will be very angry tax payers ready for revolution.

     Yes, the left should be afraid. They are in trouble...and next year is election year and Palin is running for ..no office.

     Posted by YourJomamma at 11/24/2009 @ 12:30am

195. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKKKgua7wQk

     Posted by Mask at 11/23/2009 @ 6:35pm

     I am ashamed that I was born in Ohio.

     Posted by Stephen_Carver1 at 11/24/2009 @ 12:46am

196. Yes, the left should be afraid. They are in trouble...and next year is election year and Palin is running for ..no office.

     Posted by YourJomamma at 11/24/2009 @ 12:30am

     Wow. What a diatribe! The left is not afraid of Palin. Name one blogger on this blog who has shown fear of Palin. The only one I can think of is darladoon, and even she said she's afraid of the people Palin controls, not Palin herself. (and she's right to fear Palin's followers...they are the same people who got caught up in Hitler's "Deutschland Uber Alles" campaign. By the way, that roughly translates into "germany first" which is EXACTLY what Sarah's followers say (About America) without even knowing what they are talking about!

     I hope Palin takes over the Republican party. I hope she and her followers manage to eliminate every single moderate Republican from the party. I hope she alienates independents. I know she hates liberals.

     She has no qualities to run for office (or even be in office, which is why she quit) and if she becomes the "kingmaker" for Conservatives, so much the better.

     Now, tell me again why I, as a liberal, am afraid of Sarah Palin?

     Posted by Stephen_Carver1 at 11/24/2009 @ 12:56am

197. Now, tell me again why I, as a liberal, am afraid of Sarah Palin?

     Posted by Stephen_Carver1 at 11/24/2009 @ 12:56am

     You are fine, just fine. And you, too, will miss the point.

     Posted by YourJomamma at 11/24/2009 @ 01:49am

198. Sarah Palin appears well on her way to becoming a million-selling author.

     "Going Rogue" sold 700,000 copies _ a number that includes pre-orders _ in its first week of release, according to a publishing official close to the former Alaska governor. The official was not authorized to release the sales figure and asked not to be identified.

     Palin's memoir came out Nov. 17 with a first printing of 1.5 million copies. On Friday, publisher HarperCollins announced that the printing would be increased to 2.5 million.

     Few nonfiction books have debuted so well. In 2004, Bill Clinton's "My Life" sold more than 900,000 copies in its first week.

     Sarah is doing well for someone not holding political office and never having been President. The "cream" is hearing the leftist squeal like a pig being butchered!

     Posted by BigPasture at 11/24/2009 @ 03:40am

199. <i>Posted by Stephen_Carver1 at 11/24/2009 @ 12:46am </i>

     Why? I'm not:

     1) You'll always find some number of people who'll flock to a far left or far right candidate without knowing much of anything about them, no matter where you go.

     2) What some of them said, about wanting to meet Sarah Palin...I would want to as well. I was not at all impressed with her as a viable VP candidate and I disagree with a lot of what she says (to the extent she has a substantive advocacy), but I would want to meet her nonetheless. Had there been one of those events near me, and I had the time to go, I probably would have given it a try. Why not?

     Posted by Thrawn at 11/24/2009 @ 04:42am

200. Posted by Stephen_Carver1 at 11/24/2009 @ 12:46am

     Half the Right won't watch that video....too embarassing.

     The other half?

     Will say "What? What did they say that was so wrong?"

     heheh

     Posted by Mask at 11/24/2009 @ 07:48am

201. I guess this is par for the course. The Nation has half-a-dozen current articles on Palin and not a single article (nor a single word) on the greatest scientific fraud to occur in modern history.

     I'm not saying Global Warming is a hoax, but the scientist who believe in AGW have colluded to suppress evidence and other viewpoints. And The Nation doesn't have a single word to say about it.

     Typical.

     Posted by Darin_the_Big_Fat_Troll at 11/24/2009 @ 08:25am

202. Now, tell me again why I, as a liberal, am afraid of Sarah Palin?

     Posted by Stephen_Carver1 at 11/24/2009 @ 12:56am

     You are fine, just fine. And you, too, will miss the point.

     Posted by YourJomamma at 11/24/2009 @ 01:49am

     Because liberalism fears anything that will disrupt or stem the goals of liberalism to create a socialist state where individualism and the right to succeed or fail on your own efforts are diminished or eliminated.

     And as I keep saying, everywhere this form of politics has been implemented, there has been a complete breakdown in the moral fabric of the people as Marx called for.

     Posted by antisocialist at 11/24/2009 @ 09:30am

203. 'I guarantee the GOP is busy plotting right now how to pull a Tanya Harding on Palin to get her out of the way before she turns their vile party into more of a global laughingstock than it already is. She's the GOP's Osama Bin Laden...' -- SmashIsrael

     'We have to be honest about these things and admit that Bin Laden is a far more decent and level headed individual than any leader ...' -- rykart -- 3 November, 2009 -- http://www. thenation.com/blogs /notion/491173/berlin_wall_israeli _wall_mexican_border_wall_l_ a#pid491197

     Posted by HonestLiberal at 11/24/2009 @ 09:32am

204. I'm not saying Global Warming is a hoax, but the scientist who believe in AGW have colluded to suppress evidence and other viewpoints. And The Nation doesn't have a single word to say about it.

     Typical.

     Posted by Darin_the_Big_Fat_Troll at 11/24/2009 @ 08:25am

     Like the White House, these lemmings of the AGW hoax are terrified to know that they have been exposed.

     Thats why the MSM is giving it little attention. They are all hoping that the population is not paying attention and they can gloss over it and make the truth go away.

     Posted by antisocialist at 11/24/2009 @ 09:33am

205. This thing is still going? Hey Nation editors, it's time for another "Palin" piece. Another Two Minutes Hate.

     Why don't you just assign a "writer" to the Palin beat full time?

     Tell you what, I'm a crazy right-winger, but I can ape your style, it's easy. Give me a dollar per word, and I'll supply you with two 500 word Palin-rapes per week. We'll keep it on the DL.

     Posted by gangpapist at 11/24/2009 @ 10:09am

206. People love watching a car wreck, why do you think there are so many NASCAR fans. That is why people like Palin. What gaff or guffaw will she do next. No one with half a brain takes her seriously.

     Posted by Extraneous at 11/24/2009 @ 11:08am

207. Odd...given our "fear" of Palin...

     why do so many of us who mock her WANT her to be the GOP nominee in 2012?!?!?!!?

     I'd even contribute to her GOP primary bid campaign war-chest.

     Posted by Mask at 11/24/2009 @ 11:10am

208. I have puzzled about Ms. Palin more in terms of the face she chooses to present to the world. Take, for example, her studied effort to present herself as a God-fearing person and as a good Christian. She judges others by her standard. Thus, she says, rather arrogantly, that she would pray for those who are criticizing her. She denounces other people's action as pure "evil." It would seem that Jesus preached all the opposites of what Palin has come to represent. Christ represents--love, not hate and division (surely not "us versus them"), oneness and brotherhood, not separation, truthfulness, not untruth, forgiveness, not vindictiveness and payback politics, sincerity, not manipulation, humility (recognizing one's flaws), not constantly seeing others as the problem (remember Jesus emphasizing that we acknowledge our own flaws--remove first the plank in your own eyes, he said), inordinate desire for attention as opposed simple living and selfless service, simplicity and moderation instead of showmanship, working with the poor instead of loving a life of celebrity, and more. Palin calls others "shallow;" but people rejected her as McCain's running mate for this reason. If Christ would come back to earth today, Palin may not even recognize him. She would call Christ a "socialist" for trying to help the poor. As Shakespeare states through one of his more memorable characters, "the cull does not make the monk." Dr. Sam

     Posted by drsam8 at 11/24/2009 @ 12:23pm

209. It's hilarious yet vile and disgusting to see what the MSM, hollywood, and the left are tdoing to Palin. It is extremely odd that a person, especially a woman, that is not even serving in public office, at present, can create such vile hatred amongst the losers on the left in this pathetic counrty! What has she done that makes you twerps hate her so much? Burnt books? The leftist idiots have been doing that for decades via rewriting history through their infection and takeover of academia. So, please, give a FACTUAL list of "bad' things Palin has done that threaten you sooooo much, you little twerps might just pee yourselves? I'll give you reasons why is thoroughly despise that bastard in the white house right now: He's a "NO EXPERIENCE HAVING CRADLE-TO-GRAVE LOSER-LIBERAL" ( Palin has far more EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE than Obama, even though the MSM LIES about it), He's a bonafide RACIST! He LIED about everything during his campaign: 1) No lobbyists: lie 2) Transparency: lie ( remember: "any peice of legislation will be posted on gov't website BEFORE passage") 3) Change?: LIE, same administration as Clinton's 4) Wiretaps?: THIS MOTHER-FUCKER EXPANDED THEM PROGRAM YOU MORONS! WHERE IS ALL YOU"RE RAGE NOW? 5) Gonna bring the troops home: uh....LIE! 6) Not going to raise taxes for people earning under 250G: big lie 7) speaking of taxes: this racist-in-chief has appointed a plethora of TAX-CHEATS (pro-tax liberals cheating on their taxes = HYPOCRISY!)8) Fuckface goes over to europe and blasts his fellow Americans who come to Europe and can speak the language as "embarrassing to him": my question to FUCKFACE: how many European languages can you speeak DICKLICK? You're the embarrassment who still won't remove the gov't pacifier from your mouth!!! Peace-out, LOSERS!

     Posted by barry25 at 11/24/2009 @ 12:27pm

210. You are fine, just fine. And you, too, will miss the point.

     Posted by YourJomamma at 11/24/2009 @ 01:49am

     and what "point" are you intimating I will miss?

     Posted by Stephen_Carver1 at 11/24/2009 @ 12:33pm

211. Newsflash************

     GLOBAL WARMING IS A FRAUD!

     LOL, you twerps are in BIG trouble! It's over. The intercepted e-mails were proven authentic, exposing these so-called scientific experts for the immoral, liars that they are. LOL! Today's data also PROVES, beyond a reasonable doubt, that Gore's computer models were DEAD wrong, only a few years after they were created! Hahahahahaha, mother-nature just wasn't willing go along with this HOAX! Hahahahahahahaha

     Posted by barry25 at 11/24/2009 @ 12:34pm

212. Posted by barry25 at 11/24/2009 @ 12:27pm

     Interesting point, barry.....WHY isn't she "serving in public office" now?

     Posted by Mask at 11/24/2009 @ 12:34pm

213. 'I'm not saying Global Warming is a hoax, but the scientists who believe in AGW have colluded to suppress evidence and other viewpoints. And The Nation doesn't have a single word to say about it.' -- Darin_the_Big_Fat_Troll

     'All our scientific advances, all our modern machines, but the Mayans saw this coming thousands of years ago.' -- 2012

     Posted by HonestLiberal at 11/24/2009 @ 12:39pm

214. If I could give Saran Palin a piece of advice in her interviews, it would be to slow down. Her mind works so fast that when she's making a point her mind races ahead of her ability to mouth the words that she's trying to express.

     This is how mistakes are made and we all know how eager the lefties are to parse her speech and find the slightest that they can magnify, even as they ignore all of Obama's. If you listen to Barack Obama, he's very diliberate in his speech , although he says 'uh' way too much. Sarah has a lot to say but her manner of speech needs refinement to put her on a higher level as a communicator.

     She has plenty of time to bone up on policy details and to hire a speaking coach to slow her down. If she does wish to persue higher office, she'll need to do both. At least she has a war chest now.

     Posted by gunslinger1 at 11/24/2009 @ 12:40pm

215. 2) What some of them said, about wanting to meet Sarah Palin...I would want to as well. I was not at all impressed with her as a viable VP candidate and I disagree with a lot of what she says (to the extent she has a substantive advocacy), but I would want to meet her nonetheless. Had there been one of those events near me, and I had the time to go, I probably would have given it a try. Why not?

     Posted by Thrawn at 11/24/2009 @ 04:42am

     Thrawn, I agree. There is something to be said for Sarah Palin's celebrity, but I guess living in Hollywood and seeing celebreties fairly often throughout my life, I have grown pretty immune to the lure of meeting a celebrity.

     But that's all that Sarah Palin has: celebrity. I hope that our political leaders, both on the left and on the right, would have more brains than she does; she is truly a former beauty queen who has managed to parlay that kind of celebrity to a national celebrity. She's nothing more than Carrie Prejean; and with the same moral compass: do it for the money. If Palin really cared about governing, she would not have quit her job as Alaska's governor, regardless of how hard it got for her; she should have slogged through it, as all politicians sometimes have to do. But no, she WANTS the celebrity (and the accompanying money that goes with it), more than she wants to govern and show her governing credentials.

     Celebrity is shallow, and the fact she has pursued it so blatantly, tells me everything I needed to know about her seriousness as a politician; she HAS no seriousness about being a politician.

     Posted by Stephen_Carver1 at 11/24/2009 @ 12:40pm

216. And as I keep saying, everywhere this form of politics has been implemented, there has been a complete breakdown in the moral fabric of the people as Marx called for.

     Posted by antisocialist at 11/24/2009 @ 09:30am

     Larry, you believe that anything less than Christian evangelicalism is a "breakdown in the moral fabric." So, why should I believe anything you say about morals?

     Your own morals, as exhibited throughout this blog, are all over the map, and not consistent in the least. I believe in freedom for all; you don't. I believe in peace between nations; you want a holy war with Islam.

     I am not afraid of Sarah Palin. As your hero once said, "Bring it on."

     Posted by Stephen_Carver1 at 11/24/2009 @ 12:44pm

217. honestliberal, LOL.......2012? LOL, I bet you were hiding in a bomb-shelter during "Y2K"!!!!! Oh the horror, we're all doomed and only the fat-assed idiot Al Gore can save us!!!!

     Posted by barry25 at 11/24/2009 @ 12:45pm

218. Posted by gunslinger1 at 11/24/2009 @ 12:40pm

     Slinger, I actually agree with you on this: she needs to slow down and THINK about what she says before she says it.

     Posted by Stephen_Carver1 at 11/24/2009 @ 12:49pm

219. Let those who enable, empower and defend terorism, be the victims of it1 That means liberals!

     Posted by barry25 at 11/24/2009 @ 1:03pm

220. Honestly, how upset are you twerps about the demolishing of you global-warming hoax? I bet you're furious! I bet you're more angry about the actual "hacking' of the e-mails than you are about the FRAUD finally being exposed for what it is! I bet you weren't bothered one bit when Palin's e-mail was hacked by a loser-LIBERAL! And I bet you'll direct all that anger on Sweet Sara! The more you idiots attack her, the sronger the resolve of her supporters becomes, and the more empowered the movement gets! Good work dorks, keep it up!!!!!

     Posted by barry25 at 11/24/2009 @ 1:09pm

221. Posted by Stephen_Carver1 at 11/24/2009 @ 12:40pm

     So you've lived in Hollywood most of your life huh? Well, that explains it.

     As for the Prejean, Palin comparison, that's simply ludicrous. Sarah Palin rose to the highest office in Alaska, the nation's largest state and was quite successful in that office until a campaign was mounted against her with all of those silly ethics suits to drive her from office. Her Lt' Governor was more than capable of carrying on her policies and to gain re-election himself.

     Her decision to leave that office was clearly explained, right from the horses mouth. You just choose to believe it was because of other reasons than she stated, as do others who will cintinue the onslaught against her. Look, when the liberals captured the House and the Senate, Sarah saw this as an emergency, as did the rest of the right.

     She cannot make the same impact from way up there as she can by traveling the lower 48 and metting people up close and personal to deliver her message face to face. People love her. Get over it.

     Oh and BTW, do you have any teen age girls in your family? Any of them ever been knocked by ARod? Get the point?

     Posted by gunslinger1 at 11/24/2009 @ 1:11pm

222. Wow, guess all the "global-warming"...LOL (sorry I just have to laugh everytime I see that fraudulent phrase).......experts have went into hiding. Good because they need to be PUBLICLY SHAMED for their evil-deeds!!!! What's wrong losers, cat got your toungue...or does Barney Frank? LOL!

     Posted by barry25 at 11/24/2009 @ 1:18pm

223. gunslinger-Govs govern people and Alaska is one of our smallest states.It's like a small town up there.What you mean is that Palin can't sell as many books from way up there or get attention.She had to quit in order to cash in on her celebrity.People would have forgotten about her if she did the job she was elected to do.She wasn't successful as gov because she wasn't around long enough.The ethics suits weren't silly nor were they part of an anti Palin plot.It's amazing how you partisan people can see the politicians on the other side for who they really are,but live in a fantasy world when it comes to the ones on your side.

     Posted by i'm nobody at 11/24/2009 @ 1:21pm

224. just like Obama's (community organizer) corrupt/evil Acorn (community organizers) has been shown for the corrupt fraud that it is, now the global-warming community is meeting the same fate! Prediction: the left will now attack, and sue the messengers of TRUTH, instead of attacking the meassangers of EVIL LIES (global warming nuts), just like ACORN is suing the MESSENGERS OF TRUTH, who exposed them for the EVIL BASTARDS that they are. Remember, the 2 people who exposed ACORN did nothing employed the same tactics as 60 minutes has, numerous liberal media outlets have, even Tyra Banks.

     Posted by barry25 at 11/24/2009 @ 1:28pm

225. Posted by gunslinger1 at 11/24/2009 @ 1:11pm

     Actually no, I haven't lived in Hollywood most of my life, but I have lived here for a while.

     I agree that people love her. I am simply not one of them because I believe, as based on her actions, not her words, that she craves celebrity more than she craves to "help the real America."

     As for her to-do with David Letterman, I agree that Letterman (who I love) was completely in the wrong. However, I also believe that his apology was heartfelt and that the joke itself was directed towards Bristol, that paragon of Republican Teenage Abstinence Only policy, and not the younger daughter.

     But answer me this: if Palin wanted her family kept "out of bounds," why did she hold up her family as virtuous throughout the entire campaign? She never once (until AFTER she brought them onto the nations stage) said to the media, "Keep my children out of this" as Obama did right from the beginning. So, who protected their children better from the limelight, Obama or Palin?

     Posted by Stephen_Carver1 at 11/24/2009 @ 1:34pm

226. Obama didn't keep his beautiful girls out of the limelight, the media did, you JACKASS!!!! What a bonafide moron! The actions/attacks leveled on the Palin children, and Sarah herself, should never be forgiven, and has helped her gain passionate support amongst decent, law-abiding, taxpaying, America-loving citizens. You libs are truly despicable people and your days in power are numbered!

     Posted by barry25 at 11/24/2009 @ 1:41pm

227. barry25-I know for a fact that many of Palin supporters are not law abiding.Quite a number use meth,smoke weed,sell drugs,avoid paying taxes,and other such things.She uses her children as props when they are needed,but has no idea what they are doing when she doesn't need them.Libs aren't in power.

     Posted by i'm nobody at 11/24/2009 @ 1:45pm

228. Posted by barry25 at 11/24/2009 @ 1:41pm

     Wow. I've been called a jackass and despicable by Barry25. I feel I've earned my liberal credentials today. Keep the hysteria coming, barry!

     Posted by Stephen_Carver1 at 11/24/2009 @ 1:55pm

229. steven carver "loves letterman"! That's typical. Letterman shares some of the great traits of other men carver "loves", like Clinton, Edwards, Gavin Newsome etc. These wonderfully admirable traits, shared and celebrated by liberals everywhere include: Sociopathic-narcissism and the ability to BETRAY those closest to them....Thier WIVES and FAMILIES! This betrayal is almost mandatory for any Dem./Lib to reach the heights of popularity amongst thier loser-liberal followers, and should be a good lesson for all children on the importance of betraying those closest to you in order to further your own selfish agenda! By the way, I hope they throw the book at Mark Sanford, he's scum!!! Those who love despicable, selfish, evil people like David Letterman are the problem with this country and I have no respect and plenty of disdain for these bonafide losers!

     Posted by barry25 at 11/24/2009 @ 1:56pm

230. Nobody, wow, you know that for a fact! No Obama supporters smoke weed, none whatsoever! Obama supporters using drugs, no way! All those students running around, protesting, supporting Obama, would never involve themselves in doing drugs, and Obama himself never smoked weed or did cocain! Yes, these Dem's should now be known as the " drug-free party" and should start their own "just say no" campaign! You're truly deranged!!!!!!!

     Posted by barry25 at 11/24/2009 @ 2:01pm

231. Oh ya, and the squeaky-clean org. known as ACORN! Those Obama supporters at ACORN would never be involved in anything illegal. Oh no, they'd never help people bring in underage illegals into america and make them work in the sex trade! No way! They'd never tell the pimp/prostitute not to educate those kids so that they could keep them down (although it's factual and on tape)! Nobody, you're embarrassing!!!!

     Posted by barry25 at 11/24/2009 @ 2:05pm

232. 'fascists' ... 'Thus it was in Hitler's Germany, thus it is in America today' ... 'Hitler's "Deutschland Uber Alles"' ... 'stupid bully'

     ...

     'I feel I've earned my liberal credentials today.' -- Posted by Stephen_Carver1

     Posted by HonestLiberal at 11/24/2009 @ 2:10pm

233. As for her to-do with David Letterman, I agree that Letterman (who I love) was completely in the wrong. However, I also believe that his apology was heartfelt and that the joke itself was directed towards Bristol, that paragon of Republican Teenage Abstinence Only policy, and not the younger daughter.

     Posted by Stephen_Carver1 at 11/24/2009 @ 1:34pm

     I sided with Letterman on this one. The joke about Bristol was fair game. When it turned out Sarah had her younger daughter in NY, and there was some potential ambiguity as to how the joke should be interpreted, Letterman did the right thing by offering a heartfelt apology.

     I think Palin was wrong to insinuate that the apology was insincere. I think she was wrong to encouraging her fans to believe believe the worst about Letterman. In fact, I think it was spiteful. I understand that she was angry at people taking shots at her daughter, but she knew that was going to happen when she accepted the Rep VP slot knowing Bristol was pregnant.

     Posted by Darin_the_Big_Fat_Troll at 11/24/2009 @ 2:12pm

234. Be careful, pretty soon, that ugly word known as "liberal" will carry more shame in this country than it did right after 9/11! You fools don't have a clue about what's comin' your way! When you take children, like Obama, straight off the playground and place them in power, they fail miserably, and the dems lose power. Most dem's are "straight off the playground", meaning, they never left the playground and worked in the real world. They just moved from one playground to another, throughout their entire live, gov't pacifier firmly placed into mouth, throughout the inept, incompetent and disfunctional institutions of ACADEMIA! Yes, I'm that good! Just rippin' you twerps, and the racist-in-chief, to shreds!!! LOL

     Posted by barry25 at 11/24/2009 @ 2:16pm

235. barry25-I never said that no Obama supporter does drugs.The fact that you thought I said that makes you deranged.I've smoked and done drugs with Palin supporters.Smoked weed with an Obama supporter,too.Know for a fact that some Palin supporters have taken money under the table in order to avoid paying taxes.No politician has all law abiding,tax paying,America loving supporters,like you claimed Palin had.Palin has supporters who hate America and want to leave the union.

     Posted by i'm nobody at 11/24/2009 @ 2:23pm

236. barry25-Actually,nothing is coming the liberals way and it won't be a dirty word.In America we flip back and forth between the two sides on a regular basis.

     Posted by i'm nobody at 11/24/2009 @ 2:25pm

237. Why are the Lib sheilas invariably so physically and intellectually unattractive? Do they become Libs as a reaction to that condition or is it ugly plus ugly politics? ...

     Posted by lrjones4 at 11/20/2009 @ 6:55pm

     If you wish to go down that road, then why is it that the GOP males, as a general rule, have a minimum of three chins and neck flab hanging off their collars?

     By the way, if you look at Valerie Plame, ex-CIA agent outed by Karl Rove and Dickless Cheney, there's nothing wrong with her and she's definitely not a card carrying GOP neanderthal.

     Posted by Wolfgang1 at 11/24/2009 @ 2:29pm

238. wolfgang-In the past,LRJones said his wife is a liberal so he must be going by her looks and brains..

     Posted by i'm nobody at 11/24/2009 @ 2:40pm

239. nobody, you just did the "deranged" thing you accused me of. I never stated that ALL of her supporters are great people, just that most "great people", like myself, support her, fool! By the, I've smoked weed too, and I liked it! Can you believe it, a deranged pot-smoking conservative...what a hypocrite, right? Wrong! I bet Palin also has the support of many lunatic racists, yet not near as many racists that support Obama and hate the "white man". Shit, even his supreme court nominee is a BONAFIDE, FULL-BLOWN, LaRaza (the race)-loving LATINA RACIST! So, what's your point dork? Both sides are going to have their nuts, but your side facilitates, encourages, enables, and glorifies the hefty load of nuts that control all branches of gov't including academia. LOL

     Posted by barry25 at 11/24/2009 @ 2:49pm

240. wolfgang-I make the assumption that any male who says that there is a difference between womens looks based upon race,religion,or political ideology are homosexuals.All straight men learn at about the age of 12 or 13 that women are beautiful and sexy regardless of race,religion,or political ideology.Only a gay man would be so discriminating since they don't have the same reaction to women as straight men do.

     Posted by i'm nobody at 11/24/2009 @ 2:51pm

241. Global warming is a hoax! LOL, come on someone has got to stick up for this fraud..any takers!!!!!!!

     Posted by barry25 at 11/24/2009 @ 2:52pm

242. barry25-In other words,you were claiming that you are a great person.You do what many do.Declare your side to be great so you can find a backdoor way to declare yourself to be great.That's deranged and dishonest.Just declare yourself to be great and leave Palin and her other supporters out of it.Try harder drugs and increase your alcohol consumption.That may help.I'm not an Obama supporter.I don't trust any politician.I'm equal opportunity that way.

     Posted by i'm nobody at 11/24/2009 @ 2:55pm

243. That retard baby really pisses you guys off doesn't it? Cause every one of you knows if it was you, that bitch would have been in pieces in the dumpster out back the PP.

     Q: Is there a way that Palin could "redeem" herself?

     The NTs embodiment of redemption is the Apostle Paul, who went from persecuting Christians, to conversion, to theological stardom, and finally martyrdom.

     Maybe Palin could follow a modernized reversal of Paul's journey, with a bit of Hollywood flair. She could renounce Christianity, make a sex tape, and travel the country like Javier Bardem in No Country For Old Men, offing little Down Syndrome bitches with an air compressor-powered cattle gun. That would be sexy!

     Posted by gangpapist at 11/24/2009 @ 3:03pm

244. And as I keep saying, everywhere this form of politics has been implemented, there has been a complete breakdown in the moral fabric of the people as Marx called for.

     Posted by antisocialist at 11/24/2009 @ 09:30am

     Larry, you believe that anything less than Christian evangelicalism is a "breakdown in the moral fabric." So, why should I believe anything you say about morals?

     Your own morals, as exhibited throughout this blog, are all over the map, and not consistent in the least. I believe in freedom for all; you don't. I believe in peace between nations; you want a holy war with Islam.

     I am not afraid of Sarah Palin. As your hero once said, "Bring it on."

     Posted by Stephen_Carver1 at 11/24/2009 @ 12:44pm

     Here we have the left once again calling good evil and evil good.

     I'm consistent in wanting freedom for everyone.

     You on the other hand have only promoted liberty for homosexuals in marriage.

     You don't want freedom for Americans. You support the Dems plan to force people to buy health insurance or go to prison.

     You don't support freedom for Israelis-you support the jihadists trying to kill the Jews

     You don't support freedom for Iraqi's, Iranians, Afghans, Pakistanis, and other countries where the US might intervene against totalitarian govts.

     You support high taxation to foster larger govt which as Jefferson described, ALWAYS diminishes liberty.

     You sir, are no supporter of freedom.

     Posted by antisocialist at 11/24/2009 @ 3:05pm

245. Posted by Stephen_Carver1 at 11/24/2009 @ 1:34pm

     This doesn't really deserve a response but seing that you are so far off the mark and an obvious victim of bandwagoning that I'll take a shot.

     First of all, as far back as I can remember, all Presidential candidates appeared several times during campaigns with their families. Sarah is very proud of her family and rightfully so.

     You're remarks about Letterman are laughable. He has certainly proved himself to be a model of virtue, hasn't he. His apology was anything but sincere as he was back at Sarah just a couple of weeks later. Please recite for me one joke he's done about Obama.

     What difference does it make which daughter he made the joke about, even though he shoul have known that it was Sarah's younger daughter who attended the Yankee game that day. I guess we can be happy that he hasn't taken any shots at Piper yet.

     Your cheap shot a Bristol reveals your real motive here. You are one of these people who hates Sarah Palin because she's pro life. Thank God her daughter learned from her mother's values and did not consider killing that beautiful baby.

     Also, I've seen plenty of shots and videos of Obama's family. Who's hiding?

     Posted by gunslinger1 at 11/24/2009 @ 3:06pm

246. gangpapist-They don't renounce Christianity before making a sex tape,committing adultery,or getting caught toe tapping in the mens room.

     Posted by i'm nobody at 11/24/2009 @ 3:09pm

247. Posted by i'm nobody at 11/24/2009 @ 3:09pm |

     what's your point?

     Posted by gangpapist at 11/24/2009 @ 3:23pm

248. Posted by gangpapist at 11/24/2009 @ 3:03pm

     That's an awful way to refer to Sarah's baby. If she didn't carry her baby around, the stupid left would be asking, "What's she trying to hide her poor handicapped child now." But that's not the reason why Sarah is usually seen with her baby. She is a proud, loving mother who gives thanks to God for choosing Todd and She to be that child parents.

     Buy her book. It's worth every penny if just for the glossy color photographs of which there are many. Alaska is a beautiful place.

     Posted by gunslinger1 at 11/24/2009 @ 3:30pm

249. gangpapist-I was just pointing out that it wasn't necessary for Palin to renounce Christianity prior to doing those things,like make a sex tape.

     Posted by i'm nobody at 11/24/2009 @ 3:32pm

250. Posted by i'm nobody at 11/24/2009 @ 3:32pm |

     Dude, I'm not talking about her just making a sex tape or doing naughty stuff. I'm talking a road to redemption here.

     Her crime seems to be that she 1)embraces pretty standard middle-american moral values 2) she's a big-time breeder 3) she spit in the face of every sanctimonious lefty who ever looked at that positive EPT and decided to let the good times roll, by giving birth to a fu**in retard.

     So while yes, Christians could make sex tapes, Palin's road to redemption would probably involve a renunciation.

     Our Lady of Renunciation. She could be sainted.

     Posted by gangpapist at 11/24/2009 @ 4:05pm

251. gangpapist-A sainted politician?They create images that they sell to the public.Celebrities do that.Unfortunately,the image is,typically,far removed from reality and it never is reality.

     Posted by i'm nobody at 11/24/2009 @ 4:18pm

252. I'm just trying to get this thing past the 300 mark before they replace it with a fresh round of "Palin" hysteria. There's two things that get the doggies a-barkin' around here: Palin and the Jews.

     Posted by gangpapist at 11/24/2009 @ 4:30pm

253. gangpapist-I find Palin to be a nice diversion from important things.Carrie Prejean was a nicer diversion,however.

     Posted by i'm nobody at 11/24/2009 @ 4:34pm

254. Posted by barry25 at 11/24/2009 @ 1:56pm

     Barry, what about Newt Gingrich (how many wives)? What about Rush Limbaugh (how many wives and drug arrests)?

     What about Senator John Ensign (how many affairs with his staff)? What about Rep. Foley (how many male interns)?

     The Republican list of men who can't keep their dick in their pants grows ever longer.

     I noticed none of these men are listed as the "people steven carver (and please at least have the courtesy to spell my name right) loves." And yet their moral departures from the straight and narrow are just as bad (if not worse) than Clinton's, Letterman's, or Gavin Newsome's. Especially because Republicans actually have the audacity to hold themselves up as the Party of "family values."

     Laughable, really.

     Barry, you are such a tool of the right wing fundamentalists. A tool and a fool.

     Posted by Stephen_Carver1 at 11/24/2009 @ 5:12pm

255. Posted by barry25 at 11/24/2009 @ 2:16pm

     Barry, that sounds distinctly like a threat. Are you threatening liberals, cause that can get the Secret Service after you.

     Posted by Stephen_Carver1 at 11/24/2009 @ 5:15pm

256. "I'm consistent in wanting freedom for everyone."

     ++except Muslims (who you would like to see dead, and homosexuals who you would prefer to see in hell).

     "You on the other hand have only promoted liberty for homosexuals in marriage."

     ++ I promote liberty for everyone, including homosexuals. Yes, that includes marriage for everyone, since marriage is a civil right in this country, regardless of what the bible says.

     "You don't want freedom for Americans. You support the Dems plan to force people to buy health insurance or go to prison."

     ++Actually, that's what the Republicans support. I support single payer. In the case we don't get single payer, I support a strong public option. It's BIG Insurance and the Republicans that support mandating insurance coverage. I don't support that part of the bill.

     "You don't support freedom for Israelis-you support the jihadists trying to kill the Jews"

     ++ please find ONE example of me saying anything like that. Just ONE! You won't find it it because I've never said anything like that and I tend to stay away from the Israeli-Palestinian question as I think both sides are to blame. I have no solution to provide for people who can't even acknowledge the other side's humanity.

     "You don't support freedom for Iraqi's, Iranians, Afghans, Pakistanis, and other countries where the US might intervene against totalitarian govts."

     ++My position is that the US is NOT the world's policeman. Especially when the President lies about why he is taking us to war (in Iraq).

     "You support high taxation to foster larger govt which as Jefferson described, ALWAYS diminishes liberty."

     ++Lots of people disagreed with Jefferson on many issues, including Adams and Madison. You don't like them now?

     Posted by antisocialist at 11/24/2009 @ 3:05p

     Posted by Stephen_Carver1 at 11/24/2009 @ 5:26pm

257. Posted by i'm nobody at 11/24/2009 @ 2:51pm | ignore this person | warn this person

     whattabunchofnonsense. really. get a life. you know nothing about people, period.

     Posted by emile duBois at 11/24/2009 @ 5:28pm

258. Posted by gunslinger1 at 11/24/2009 @ 3:06pm

     Slinger - a couple of things...

     1. I don't hate Sarah Palin because she is pro life. I hate her because she's a stupid former beauty queen who managed to get elected to the top job in a state that has less people in it than the city I live in...and when that got too hard for her, she QUIT! That's why I hate her.

     As for being pro life, I am both pro life and pro choice and people like you, who only see in black and white, can't grasp your tiny little minds around that concept.

     As for Letterman jokes about Obama; I found these on the Intertubes:

     "Well, we're just a couple of weeks from new President Barack Obama being sworn in. And he's been very busy naming a lot of cabinet positions. And today he announced that he wants the surgeon general to be TV Dr. Sanjay Gupta. That was the kid on 'American Idol,' wasn't it?"

     "But surgeon general, that's a tough position, and it was hard for Obama to make the choice. It was between Gupta, Dr. Phil and a guy on 'Scrubs.'"

     And while you may have seen "shots" of Obama's girls during the election, he certainly did NOT parade them all over the television the instant he was nominated for office, did he? In fact, when the press started getting too close, he again (time and time again) told the media to stay away from his family. Sarah never did any such thing, because she wanted the "real america" to see her fabulous, if imperfect, family and vote for her because of it.

     Posted by Stephen_Carver1 at 11/24/2009 @ 5:40pm

259. Alaska is a beautiful place.

     Posted by gunslinger1 at 11/24/2009 @ 3:30pm

     Something we can agree on.

     Posted by Stephen_Carver1 at 11/24/2009 @ 5:42pm

260. Posted by Stephen_Carver1 at 11/24/2009 @ 5:26pm

     There is not a single Muslim, homosexual or anyone else I want to see dead or in hell.

     Marriage is not a civil right or any other kind of right. Just like a drivers license is not a right.

     Republicans support mandatory health insurance? Name one. Name any conservative who supports mandatory health insurance.

     You bring out your repeated lie (and that of other leftists) that the Iraq was was a lie. You've been proven wrong but will never admit it. And again, you sidestepped. You don't favor freedom for all the people in the countries I listed.

     Show me where Adams and Madison believed in an income tax?

     Posted by antisocialist at 11/24/2009 @ 8:48pm

261. "There is not a single Muslim, homosexual or anyone else I want to see dead or in hell.

     Marriage is not a civil right or any other kind of right. Just like a drivers license is not a right. "

     Undoubtedly Antisocialist thinks he is better than Muslims, homosexuals, and anyone else... except him and some other members of his stupid sect. And I name it sect, because anyone that is as intolerant as he is, defines by his attitude to be sectarian.

     Marriage in a civil society as special as it is, is a contract, period. It occurs in several forms since the dawn of humanity. Civil marriage is one thing, religious marriage is a sacrament for people who believe in it, the blessing of a civil marriage by God. Know you won't come up with things like non believers don't have the right to marry...or are you?

     We cannot impose our beliefs in an heterogeneous society. Civil society means respect for everyone's beliefs and to guarantee the rights of everyone

     It is so funny how the extreme right is a copy of the extremist Muslim societies...everything the same with another deity. As they say, there is a thin line between love and hatred. You could team up to convert the rest of the world, don't you?

     These neo cons are so brain damaged they think that society today is comparable with our Founding Fathers's. No, Madison or Adams where brighter than you are. They were seeking the eternal values of liberty and the people's welfare. In today's society of course they would had sought those in another way. Certainly what they weren't is egotistical and self-righteous as the religious right.

     "Freedom, equality, fraternity..", it is still a task to fulfill,

     Posted by Frank42 at 11/25/2009 @ 01:08am

262. Only a gay man would be so discriminating since they don't have the same reaction to women as straight men do.

     Posted by i'm nobody at 11/24/2009 @ 2:51pm

     and Sheila's (I'm calling LR a Sheila here) from Australia. LOL

     Posted by Wolfgang1 at 11/25/2009 @ 07:47am

263. Barry, you are such a tool of the right wing fundamentalists. A tool and a fool.

     Posted by Stephen_Carver1 at 11/24/2009 @ 5:12pm

     Agreed.

     Posted by Wolfgang1 at 11/25/2009 @ 07:54am

264. Posted by YourJomamma at 11/20/2009 @ 5:07pm |

     "I have never seen so much fear...."

     Hahahaaa....good one, but we welcome Ms. Political Kryptonite and her amazing party-splitting powers.

     -- "the way they and their buddies in the press have savaged her...and NONE of Obie 3 life storys, or anyone else on the left?)"

     They're called birthers...did you sleep through the last election cycle, YJM?

     -- "Sarah Palin will never be the president of the US, but she will most likly serve in the next Presidents Cabinet and will most certainlt have a major part to play in the the election"

     Why would Obama put her in his second cabinet?

     And what important part can she play when she doesn't make it past the primaries?

     She's likely to receive a Sec of the Interior posting and mistakenly spend their entire budget on office decoration.

     -- "...perhaps the era of collectivism is threatened by Sarah?"

     No, just tired of the wall-to-wall coverage of her insane brand of banality. She'd be much more tolerable if she could complete a coherent sentence in her native language.

     -- "So many articles and TV talk shows full of ridicule..have given her an admiration level amongst the genersl population the left can only drool over."

     You need to find the door on that echo chamber before you slip into psych...oh....too late.

     The majority of Americans recognize that she is an idiot who has no business being in politics outside Wasilla and environs.

     Please, please, please hang your 'hopes' on her capable shoulder-pads.

     Posted by snowball777 at 11/25/2009 @ 08:02am

265. Posted by antisocialist at 11/24/2009 @ 8:48pm

     Be so kind as to read this article, which explains what is wrong with your thinking.

     http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/11/constitutional-chicanery.html

     Posted by srjenkins at 11/25/2009 @ 09:05am

266. emile-Like these others who proclaim themselves to be brilliant that isn't reflected in your posts.Your responses are juvenile,pointless,and nothing more than a run of the mill put down.Telling someone to get a life is just the usual old tired put down.Tax that brain you claim to have and come up with a good put down so I can be entertained.It would,also,be good if you expanded on your put down and say what the person got wrong rather than just responding with a put down that a 10 year old could come up with.

     Posted by i'm nobody at 11/25/2009 @ 11:29am

267. emile-If you guys were half as brilliant as you believe yourselves to be then you would realize that I prefer that you guys put me down.My view is that you guys are crazier than I ever thought of being, as I have stated.That would mean that I want you guys to look down on me and put me down.I'd have to go back to heavy drinking and drug abuse if you didn't.Either that or commit suicide.

     Posted by i'm nobody at 11/25/2009 @ 11:43am

268. the put down was that you don't know anything about people. grow up.

     Posted by emile duBois at 11/25/2009 @ 12:03pm

269. emile-Your response was pointless and juvenile.Another run of the mill put down.Like these others who proclaim themselves to be brilliant you appear to have lived a sheltered life.It's obvious that you guys know little about people who are different from yourselves.You frequently make incorrect statements about what others believe in who are different from you.At least,you admitted that you can't tax your brain and come up with something good and can just do run of the mill put downs that are meaningless.You,also,showed ignorance by putting me down again since I just told you that I prefer that you put me down.

     Posted by i'm nobody at 11/25/2009 @ 12:41pm

270. emile-You self proclaimed brilliant people who believe that you're superior to others have delusional views of yourselves so what makes you think that you have realistic views when it comes to other people?

     Posted by i'm nobody at 11/25/2009 @ 1:07pm

271. Jesus said many things that are being igonred by the religious conservatives, mainly: "Love your Enemies" I dont' think starting War in Afganastan can be considered Love. Also, "Turn the other Cheek", also not anything like war. How about, "Blessed are the peacemakers" I could go on forever....

     Posted by jfair at 11/25/2009 @ 3:57pm

272. Holy shnikes! This thing is still going? Get off your asses Nation editors! We need another Palin piece NOW!

     Posted by gangpapist at 11/25/2009 @ 4:35pm

273. Posted by gangpapist at 11/25/2009 @ 4:35pm |

     Ssshhh....maybe, if we're all quiet, and no one points a camera at her, she'll leave the continental US.

     We eagerly await Cheney/Palin 2012 (mutual suicide pact or GOP healing cleanse: you make the call).

     Posted by snowball777 at 11/25/2009 @ 5:50pm

274. Ssshhh....maybe, if we're all quiet, and no one points a camera at her, she'll leave the continental US.

     We eagerly await Cheney/Palin 2012 (mutual suicide pact or GOP healing cleanse: you make the call).

     Posted by snowball777 at 11/25/2009 @ 5:50pm

     No! We're just getting warmed up! I haven't heard her recipe for moose chili. Putin hasn't reared his head! Or has he?

     The poor thing was unfairly maligned about the Russia thing. She never said that she could see it from her house, and, to be factual, you CAN see it from Little Diomede island since big Diomede island belongs to Russia.

     But let's put that aside, for there are many other things to be made fun of... like the Newsweek cover that makes her look like a cheerleader for the Dallas cowboys. Oh, those darn 'gotcha' journalists! 269!

     Posted by ficheye at 11/25/2009 @ 7:37pm

275. wolfgang-I make the assumption that any male who says that there is a difference between womens looks based upon race,religion,or political ideology are homosexuals.All straight men learn at about the age of 12 or 13 that women are beautiful and sexy regardless of race,religion,or political ideology.Only a gay man would be so discriminating since they don't have the same reaction to women as straight men do.

     Posted by i'm nobody at 11/24/2009 @ 2:51pm

     I just have 2 questions to this comment.First do others consider you attractive "I'm Nobody" and if the answer is yes are you still available

     But let's put that aside, for there are many other things to be made fun of... like the Newsweek cover that makes her look like a cheerleader for the Dallas cowboys. Oh, those darn 'gotcha' journalists! 269!

     Posted by ficheye at 11/25/2009 @ 7:37pm

     You also forget about her beliefs in banning books and the fact that neither she nor her daughter can practise her method of pre-martial sex! "Just say no" isn't that basically her philosphy. To bad she didn't practise it herself. Oh well do as I say not as I do!!

     Posted by DrPiggy at 11/25/2009 @ 8:21pm

276. Posted by DrPiggy at 11/25/2009 @ 8:21pm |

     Yes, she'll strong-arm a librarian over books about gays, but she's here to protect you from fascism!

     At least if she wins, we'll only have her as president for two years or so before she packs it in with a, "This decision was about America, not me", resignation speech from the rose garden.

     Posted by snowball777 at 11/26/2009 @ 06:22am

277. drpiggy-I'm glad that you knew to not take that post seriously.I don't know if I'm considered to be attractive or not.I look like cousin Itt on the Addams family.I'm married.

     Posted by i'm nobody at 11/26/2009 @ 11:37am

278. Posted by i'm nobody at 11/26/2009 @ 11:37am

     Tobad,so sad. Perhaps a brother,or first cousin would be available? Obviously you come from good stock!

     Posted by DrPiggy at 11/26/2009 @ 1:05pm

279. At least if she wins, we'll only have her as president for two years or so before she packs it in with a, "This decision was about America, not me", resignation speech from the rose garden.

     Posted by snowball777 at 11/26/2009 @ 06:22am

     Given that the 'regular' heat on any sitting president is very intense, I completely concur. But she could just squash dissent! A hostile takeover of all the remaining 'liberal' news outlets. No more pesky stories about contentious environmental debates. chermak would be her go-fer. Wag the dog, SJ!

     We'll have to watch carefully just in case Todd and the rest of the family decide to steal the duvets from the living quarters. There's a hell of a lot of silverware that could go missing as well.

     Posted by ficheye at 11/26/2009 @ 4:38pm

280. There's a hell of a lot of silverware that could go missing as well.

     Posted by ficheye at 11/26/2009 @ 4:38pm |

     No need to worry Levi has already taken care of that:)

     Posted by DrPiggy at 11/26/2009 @ 6:40pm

281. The Great Black North won't tip the vote her way.

     Posted by winyahn at 11/26/2009 @ 7:00pm

282. Beck-Wooten '12

     Not one complaint has ever been made about Mike Wooten's professional performance from any member of the public other than the Palin/Heath family and their closest friends.

     Posted by winyahn at 11/26/2009 @ 7:02pm

283. Seriously dudes, I ate my cranberry sauce off Sarah Palin's ass.

     Posted by gangpapist at 11/26/2009 @ 8:08pm