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RedditOne week before Election Day, the special election to fill a vacant House seat in New York's North Country is heating up. It's a three-way split, pitting a Republican, a Democrat, and a Conservative against one another. It's close.
And the conservative on the ticket has the kind of support the Democrat running against him must love.
Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman has already received the backing of Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and the anti-public-spending Club for Growth. On Monday he was endorsed by another beauty: Dana Rohrabacher, the senior Orange County (CA) Republican who began his career as a speechwriter for President Reagan. Said Rohrabacher "We don't need Tweedle-Dum or Tweedle-Dee, we need Hoffman. He's not afraid to stand up and speak the truth."
Like Palin, Beck, Limbaugh et al, Rohrabacher's of the belief that if Hoffman wins, it will send a message to the GOP establishment that they should run hardliners in 2010 and pitch to the Tea Party crowd on health care, government and everything else.
It's a great endorsement -- as far as Hoffman's opponents are concerned. As special assistant to Ronald Reagan, Rohrabacher played a key role in the late 1980s getting money and arms to Muslim extremists in Afghanistan. Throughout the 90s, he lobbied shamelessly for the repressive Taliban. A November/December 1996 article in Washington Report on Middle East Affairs said, "The potential rise of power of the Taliban does not alarm Rohrabacher" because the congressman believes the "Taliban could provide stability in an area where chaos was creating a real threat to the U.S." Nice. In April 2001, Rohrabacher met privately in Qatar with the Taliban's foreign minister, then seeking increased aid for his country.
Rohrabacher's railed against the evil Taliban since, but still. The man who once thought the Taliban were good for US interests now thinks Doug Hoffman will be good for his party. If the Hoffman's opponents can't make anything of that, they're not trying.
Having a former Taliban funder joining the rogue's gallery backing the Hoffman has got to make it easier for his opponents. If the Democrat, lawyer Bill Owens, ekes out a victory amid the Republican infighting he'll be the first Democrat to win that district in 140 years.
The F Word is a regular commentary by Laura Flanders, the host of GRITtv which broadcasts weekdays on satellite TV (Dish Network Ch. 9415 Free Speech TV) on cable, and online at GRITtv.org and TheNation.com. Follow GRITtv or GRITlaura on Twitter.com.
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Posted by YourJomamma at 10/29/2009 @ 08:33am
Ms. Flanders: ".....the conservative on the ticket has the kind of support the Democrat running against him must love.....It's a great endorsement -- as far as Hoffman's opponents are concerned."
How much lamer can you get, in this `political analysis'? You might want to check who is rising in the polls there to see where the "love" is going?
Maybe today is April 1st?
Posted by Happy at 10/29/2009 @ 09:03am
Must have struck a nerve....
Maasch pretends it's no big deal and Happy does his "Nuh-huh!" retort.
LOL
Posted by Mask at 10/29/2009 @ 09:12am
BTW, NY 23rd seems to be a "win-win-win" scenario.
Owens wins....it's a Dem win.
Scozzafava wins...Hard Right gets b-slapped down, but they are a pissy bunch and will demand either "no more RINOs or we walk", which pushs the GOP even farther Right and cuts into a guarenteed pick-up in 2010 or any shot at 2012 for their Presidential nominee.
Hoffman wins....the same with the HRs saying "See? See? ONLY totally pure conservatism can win" and the same path to destruction.
Posted by Mask at 10/29/2009 @ 09:15am
Cheap shots from a leftist which would be called "Racist" if turned around are just the kind of silly funny hypocrisy the opponent expects! Keep up the good work Laura! You know like the Obama is the Demoncrat candidates "Pet"!
Posted by BigPasture at 10/29/2009 @ 09:19am
Posted by BigPasture at 10/29/2009 @ 09:19am
As does Rio. Could it be that the old saw really gets under their skin?....i.e. the fact that Reagan and Republicans in the 1980s supported the very people the Right now says "liberals and Demoncrats wanted/want to suck upto"...
i.e. Saddam and the Taliban????
Posted by Mask at 10/29/2009 @ 09:31am
Posted by Mask at 10/29/2009 @ 09:31am |
Maybe they only heard that they were fund-duh-mental-ists and authoritarian at first so they though that their goals were sympatico.
Posted by snowball777 at 10/29/2009 @ 09:38am
i.e. Saddam and the Taliban????
Posted by Mask at 10/29/2009 @ 09:31am | ignore this person | warn this person
The Obamanation Demoncrat will long be remember for his coddling and legitimizing of Islam which in the end enables their fascist terrorism which fully embraces the dictates of the Koran! Good luck trying to live that down!
Posted by BigPasture at 10/29/2009 @ 09:56am
The Obamanation and Demoncrats will next take up resurrection of ENRON policiesa!
It's not surprising to most people that Enron delivered truckloads of money to politicians in an attempt to influence the political process. What may surprise many, however, is that Enron believed that one of its main opportunities to make money by gaming the political system was global warming.
Enron became one of the biggest corporate boosters of the Kyoto global warming treaty, which would require huge reductions in energy use by consumers and industry. According to an internal Enron memo, quoted by The Washington Post, the Kyoto treaty would "do more to promote Enron's business than almost any other regulatory initiative outside of restructuring the energy and natural gas industries in Europe and the United States."
In addition to all its political lobbying and contributions, Enron became a founding member of the Pew Center on Global Climate Change's Business Environmental Leadership Council, a leading industry front group pushing the Kyoto agenda. Enron chairman Ken Lay also served on the board of the Heinz Center for Science, Economics, and the Environment, along with Fred Krupp of Environmental Defense, and former Alcoa CEO and current Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill.
Even after President Bush decided to withdraw the U.S. from the Kyoto treaty, Enron continued to push for a domestic regulatory scheme known as cap-and-trade, whereby the government would set a cap on the total amount of carbon dioxide emissions allowed in the U.S.
It would then distribute permits or allowances to companies affected by the cap giving them the right to emit a certain amount of carbon dioxide. Those allowances could then be traded in the open market.
Posted by BigPasture at 10/29/2009 @ 10:30am
Enron executives believed that a cap-and-trade program would put them in a position to dominate the U.S. energy market. Electric utilities, required to reduce emissions of carbon dioxide, would be forced to switch from coal to natural gas as the only practical alternative to electricity production. As a leading trader of natural gas, Enron would be the recipient of a huge financial windfall.
Now that is what the Obamanation and Demoncrats look forward to in their power quest!
Posted by BigPasture at 10/29/2009 @ 10:31am
Posted by BigPasture at 10/29/2009 @ 10:30am |
For once, we agree.
Kenny-Boy (rest in hell) would have loved to have a carbon market to game just like his power deregulation shenanigans.
That's why we should simply TAX carbon emissions directly and subsidize renewable energy directly.
Cut out the middle-men and start moving to a US which doesn't import oil from that nasty Islam you're always complaining about.
Something to ponder on your daily commute...pitching pennies to mullahs with every mile.
Posted by snowball777 at 10/29/2009 @ 10:36am
This is in keeping with a lot of Palins other decisions. A presidential 'burqa', maybe?
After reading the illuminating article, 'Sarah Palin, Warrior Princess From God', it's easy to see some similarities in her approach to the Islamic radicals.She's on a mission from God. She'll show us the way! A nation speaking in tongues? Spiritual debate with Mullah Omar?
We've got our own BigPasture speaking in tongues right here. And it just doesn't get any better than that.
Posted by ficheye at 10/29/2009 @ 10:47am
We've got our own BigPasture speaking in tongues right here. And it just doesn't get any better than that.
Posted by ficheye at 10/29/2009 @ 10:47am
We also have antisociety, a Pentecostal that speaks in tongues. Isn't life grand? :)
Posted by BlackFrancis at 10/29/2009 @ 11:10am
Posted by BigPasture at 10/29/2009 @ 09:56am
Sure...and Reagan and Rohrbacher and others supported Saddam and Taliban in the 80s.
Not seeing much denial of that, Rio???
Posted by Mask at 10/29/2009 @ 11:16am
normally i don't care too much for laura flanders's writing (like her program though), but her argument here is air-tight.
and it (obviously) got under the skin of our conservative posters....
whenever maasch says 'zzzzzzz' he obviously can't admit the truth: reagan (his hero) created the extremists were are now fighting.
way to go, ronnie!
Posted by darladoon at 10/29/2009 @ 11:40am
Now, now...let's be fair to the extremists, of course THEIR support for Saddam hussein and the Taliban was clearly required to fight off Iran and Russia back in the 80's.
Just like it was clearly necessary to supply arms to Iran...back in the 80's.
Just as it was clearly necessary to support right wing death squads (but NOT death panels!) ...back int he 80's.
Whereas the death squads of Taliban are bad.
Wiki: "After the weapon sales were revealed in November 1986, Reagan appeared on national television and stated that the weapons transfers had indeed occurred, but that the United States did not trade arms for hostages....
On March 4, 1987, Reagan returned to the airwaves in a nationally televised address, taking full responsibility for any actions that he was unaware of, and admitting that "what began as a strategic opening to Iran deteriorated, in its implementation, into trading arms for hostages.""
[The Messiah took "full responsibility" for everything..he could recall, which wasn't much. ]
"In the end, fourteen administration officials were charged with crimes, and eleven convicted,"
CONVICTED!!
GUILTY!!
Helped the Taliban, helped Saddam Hussein, guilty of violating US laws...
and these are the Heroes of our Nation neo-cons!
They quote these people, while warning us of socialist police states?
I think JOMAMAMAMAMAM needs a new catch phrase, from " ZZZZZ" to..
"whacka wahcka whacka doooo, whatever my side does is cool with me, grr, kill..whacka doooooooo"
What Reagan really needed was Palins African Witch Hunter to keep those dreaded demons at bay.
Posted by crabwalk at 10/29/2009 @ 11:52am
Could some of you enlightened lefties please explain how something that happened 25 years ago has any connection or significance to a congressional election in upstate New York???
Posted by limoman at 10/29/2009 @ 11:52am
Posted by limoman at 10/29/2009 @ 11:52am
Those that forget the past...
vote right wing.
And then usually blame "the left" for the ills the far right begat.
Can you say "credit default swap"?
I know you can.
Can you say Iraqi genocide? If you want, you can call it "real politik" and explain how supporting the Iraqi invasion of Iran wa a good thing in the long run.
Posted by crabwalk at 10/29/2009 @ 11:56am
And also, because only dead fish go with the flow, also, we learned in 2008 that what happened when Obama was 8 influences HIS marxist tendencies to hate America, and stuff.
Dammit, I hate it when stuff comes back to bite the cons..like Family Values and Experience. 1980-2007, VERY important...2008, not so much. 2012? probably not at all.
Palin- 2012-2013 1/2, cuz she ain't a quitter!
Posted by crabwalk at 10/29/2009 @ 12:00pm
zzzzzzzzzzzzz..cough,cough......burp......long fart.....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Posted by YourJomamma at 10/29/2009 @ 12:00pm
That is right, John, Bill Ayers was central to Obama, but support for Taliban is no story, as you send young men to die at the hands of ...Taliban.
Just do us a favor, try to drink organic milk with your all natural cookies before you pull out your organic nappin' mat.
I know you sleep well supporting those that supported those that kill Americans.
Posted by crabwalk at 10/29/2009 @ 12:03pm
Can we PLEASE stop talking about Palin and giving her this undeserved attention? I am tired of the news being filled with the continuing tales and tribulations of Caribou Barbie. It just feeds her.
Posted by Stephen_Carver1 at 10/29/2009 @ 12:06pm
Crabwalk gets the Laugh of the Day award... Nice work. I only wish your subject matter weren't do dangerous, hysterical and duplicitous.
Posted by DejaVu at 10/29/2009 @ 12:18pm
"Could some of you enlightened lefties please explain how something that happened 25 years ago has any connection or significance to a congressional election in upstate New York???"
(clearly didn't read article)
apparently only "lefties" can read.
Posted by darladoon at 10/29/2009 @ 12:31pm
Posted by Mask at 10/29/2009 @ 09:31am
actually, it was mr. carter who began funding the afghanis.
Posted by frosty zoom at 10/29/2009 @ 12:48pm
Cut out the middle-men and start moving to a US which doesn't import oil from that nasty Islam you're always complaining about.
Posted by snowball777 at 10/29/2009 @ 10:36am
actually, most canadians are christians.
Posted by frosty zoom at 10/29/2009 @ 12:49pm
reagan (his hero) created the extremists were are now fighting. way to go, ronnie!
Posted by darladoon at 10/29/2009 @ 11:40am
CARTER advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski stated: "According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the mujahideen began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan, December 24, 1979. But the reality, secretly guarded until now, is completely otherwise." Brzezinski himself played a fundamental role in crafting US policy, which, unbeknownst even to the mujahideen, was part of a larger strategy "to induce a Soviet military intervention." In a 1998 interview with Le Nouvel Observateur, Brzezinski recalled: "We didn't push the Russians to intervene, but we knowingly increased the probability that they would...That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Soviets into the Afghan trap ... The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President CARTER. We now have the opportunity of giving to the Soviet Union its Vietnam War."[20]
Additionally, on July 3, 1979, CARTER signed a presidential finding authorizing funding for anticommunist guerrillas in Afghanistan.[21] As a part of the Central Intelligence Agency program Operation Cyclone, the massive arming of Afghanistan's mujahideen was started.[22]
Posted by frosty zoom at 10/29/2009 @ 12:52pm
Posted by Stephen_Carver1 at 10/29/2009 @ 12:06pm
ah, lady macbarbie.
Posted by frosty zoom at 10/29/2009 @ 12:54pm
frosty,
ah-hah, so it was CARTER who defeated the russian empire!
Posted by darladoon at 10/29/2009 @ 1:00pm
well, more importantly, paul volcker saved america.
then st. ronnie ruined it.
Posted by frosty zoom at 10/29/2009 @ 1:05pm
As michelle bachman would say, volcker's da man!
Posted by Denise29 at 10/29/2009 @ 1:09pm
This article makes me think of those lame attacks on Obama because he once met William Ayers, any other of the number of attacks on Obama because of people he may or may not have been associated with. All of them lame.
This one is even lamer, I don't care if the guy was endorsed by Mullah Omar himself it does not indicate one way or another how the guy would act or who he is.
Posted by Extraneous at 10/29/2009 @ 1:09pm
Posted by frosty zoom at 10/29/2009 @ 12:48pm
True, but "oddly" about the ONLY criticism you'd NEVER see from the Right about Jimmy Carter, is it? For an obvious reason.
Posted by Mask at 10/29/2009 @ 1:37pm
Mitt Romney should have taken a stand, if he is truly a conservative. Obviously like Newt Gingrich he is playing to GOP officials in New York's 23rd. Romney's relcutance to endorse Hoffman is akin to Newt's endorsement of liberal Republican Dede Scossafava in the New York special election is in my opinion out of touch with national reality. Scossafava has been an abortion rights advocate who often favors tax increases and gay marriage. Her husband is an upstate New York organizer for the union. In fact she supported the federal "card check" legislation eliminating "free choice" which would greatly increase union membership. Michelle Malkin in her article, "Dear Newt Gingrich: Meet Ronald Reagan on October 20, 2009" reported that Gingrich invoked the former President's name in attempting to justify his support of Scossafava.
Malkin's Reagan quote is exactly where traditional conservative Republicans, Democrats and many Americans are in their thinking, "A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers." I would add to Reagan's admonition these additional words for your consideration. Any candidate for public office cannot be all things to all voters but instead must be honest, faithful to his commitments in government service, marriage, moral, traditional constitutional, and patriotic values.
In the Politico article "Newt: Hoffman support a mistake" by Andy Barr, October 26, 2009 Mr. Gingrich is quoted several times. When asked why he chose to back Scossafava he responded "Let's just start with she is the nominee of the local party. My bias is to be for the nominee of the local party, and I do
Posted by DrPhillips at 10/29/2009 @ 1:42pm
Cong Rohrabacher was my Congressman when I lived in his district. He is one of the few true conservative Congressmen in the House at this time.
What is really happening is that the true conservatives are putting the Republican party on notice that they will not longer go along with being the Democrat light party.
I'm hopeful that a true conservative 3rd party will arise out of this momentum we are seeing around the country.
Posted by antisocialist at 10/29/2009 @ 1:46pm
Posted by antisocialist at 10/29/2009 @ 1:46pm
Simple, basic question, then, Larry...which you will dodge or obfuscate rather than answer simply-
Did Dana Rohrabacher praise the Taliban in 1996 or not?
Posted by Mask at 10/29/2009 @ 1:50pm
I'm hopeful that a true conservative 3rd party will arise out of this momentum we are seeing around the country. Posted by antisocialist at 10/29/2009 @ 1:46pm
As are the Democrats...Perot-ville ho!
Posted by snowball777 at 10/29/2009 @ 2:49pm
actually, most canadians are christians. Posted by frosty zoom at 10/29/2009 @ 12:49pm |
Yeah, I don't want your tarsands either, Frosty.
And at least yours know how to act like Christians from time to time.
Posted by snowball777 at 10/29/2009 @ 2:51pm
What Reagan really needed was Palins African Witch Hunter to keep those dreaded demons at bay. Posted by crabwalk at 10/29/2009 @ 11:52am |
I thought that's what the astrologers were for...
Posted by snowball777 at 10/29/2009 @ 2:55pm
SQUISH THE TOWELHEADS!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by frosty zoom at 10/29/2009 @ 3:19pm
OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGG-DDDDDDDD, TOWELHEADS!! Speaking of which, any good costume ideas for holloween????
Posted by Denise29 at 10/29/2009 @ 3:59pm
I always enjoy the way the lefists like to twist reality. Pointing to the fact that the Conservative candidate in Northern NY has "Taliban Ties" but why is it that they didn't seem to have a problem with Clinton's (and the current Sec of State having such ties? After all, the Reagan administration merely sold weapons to radical islamists who were fighting an invasion by our #1 Cold War adversary, but Clinton actually had ground troops deployed in defense of invading Muslims in the Balkans. So who is it that really has ties to radical islam?
Posted by ACRScout at 10/29/2009 @ 4:15pm
Posted by ACRScout at 10/29/2009 @ 4:15pm
Looks like your revising history yourself...you gonna tell us about the "invading Jews" in Germany next?
Posted by snowball777 at 10/29/2009 @ 5:11pm
Can we PLEASE stop talking about Palin and giving her this undeserved attention? I am tired of the news being filled with the continuing tales and tribulations of Caribou Barbie. It just feeds her.
Posted by Stephen_Carver1 at 10/29/2009 @ 12:06pm
That's not gonna happen.
There's a distortion on the, uh, supply side of attractive females on the right.
Ergo, she's going to be around for a while, if nothing more than to fuel the libidos of some of the old farts around here.
Posted by schnellerheinz at 10/29/2009 @ 5:13pm
http://detnews.com/article/20091029/METRO01/910290448&template=printart
Re the FBI shootout:
This can be misleading. The article is accompanied by a picture of the mosque located on Clairmount in Detroit. This is NOT where the shootout was. The shootout took place at a warehouse on Miller Rd. in Dearborn which is about a mile north of the Rouge plant. Not in Detroit.
Posted by schnellerheinz at 10/29/2009 @ 6:14pm
As are the Democrats...Perot-ville ho! Posted by snowball777 at 10/29/2009 @ 2:49pm
Well that makes perfect sense because the giant sucking sound never went away. It just got louder.
I hope he finally shaved his ears.
Posted by ficheye at 10/29/2009 @ 8:19pm
I misplaced my glasses... was that 'Palin wears Taliban tie-dye'?
She'd be so fine in a tie-dyed burqa
Posted by ficheye at 10/29/2009 @ 8:22pm
Speaking of which, any good costume ideas for holloween????
Posted by Denise29 at 10/29/2009 @ 3:59pm
A) get george bush jr. mask.
B) affix effigy head of richard cheney on left shoulder.
C) don barrel shaped thingy with the words "NEW, CLEAR OIL" emblazoned on front, estilo logotipo.
D) ta da!
Posted by frosty zoom at 10/29/2009 @ 9:32pm
For the first time in ~25 years, our house will go `dark' for Halloween.....joining the half (or more) of the houses in our neighborhood!
For years and years, even as my younger one quit trick-or-treating, we continued w/some basic decorations and answered the door.....to more and more kids showing up who aren't from our subdivision.
In honor of our magical President, this year we officially retired from Halloween....save some bucks too!
Posted by Happy at 10/29/2009 @ 9:42pm
True conservativism = fairy tale ideology that conservatives talk about whenever their real world ideology looks and smells like poop.
Posted by srjenkins at 10/29/2009 @ 9:48pm
Oh yeah, Frosty. Completely unrelated, but I thought you'd might find this talk about food interesting.
The reason why people are getting fat is sugar. Drink water and milk, eat fiber, take 20 seconds between swallows and exercise for as much as you spend in front of the computer. Obesity problem solved. It's long - 1.5 hours, but and interesting talk. Well worth it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM
Posted by srjenkins at 10/29/2009 @ 9:51pm
Posted by DrPhillips at 10/29/2009 @ 1:42pm | ignore this person | warn this person
SPOT ON SIR! Thats about 95% of conservatives feelings!
Posted by BigPasture at 10/29/2009 @ 11:15pm
Posted by srjenkins at 10/29/2009 @ 9:51pm
I cut out white sugar completely (as well as corn syrup sugar) for 2 1/2 months... lost 20 pounds. No exercise program.
Posted by ficheye at 10/29/2009 @ 11:18pm
This looks like yet another story that the MSM will ignore during the 2012 presidential elections, just like they ignored Reagan's ties to Paul Laxalt and Charles Wick in 1984.
Posted by nkurland at 10/29/2009 @ 11:19pm
Posted by ACRScout at 10/29/2009 @ 4:15pm
Looks like your revising history yourself...you gonna tell us about the "invading Jews" in Germany next?
Posted by snowball777 at 10/29/2009 @ 5:11pm | ignore this person | warn this person
Almost all Serbian christian churches were burned or destroyed by Albanian muslims, you know illegal aliens in the country. Maybe you should read more about Clintons defense of europeon muslims. You know, the ones that now have hundreds of islamic terrorist training camps in the republic in which "Clinton saved them from the Serbs!
Posted by BigPasture at 10/29/2009 @ 11:21pm
apparently only "lefties" can read.
Posted by darladoon at 10/29/2009 @ 12:31pm
At least you are consistent Darla ,when you cant come up with a legitimate answer(which is most of the times ) you always resort to sarcasm and insults. Youre a real class act .
Posted by limoman at 10/30/2009 @ 12:26am
There is something very strange about BigPastures latest postings.
Is it a 'Flowers for Algernon' phenomena? Did he get a computer upgrade? Is there someone in his home? A home invasion by someone with a similarly evil agenda? Did he discover 'books'? Does he have a new girlfriend outside of his usual animal companions?
Tune in next week for the next exciting episode of 'The Bigest Loser - Oklahoma'!
Posted by ficheye at 10/30/2009 @ 03:12am
Posted by ficheye at 10/29/2009 @ 11:18pm
That's great! It can be hard to make a lifestyle change like that and it's always good to hear the stories of people that do make a successful change. Wish I knew of a forum where people talked about things like that.
I lost a pound a week when I was in India last year, and gained it back and then some when I came back. I knew it had something to do with eating packaged food, but it's nice to get a good explanation and to know what to look for.
Posted by srjenkins at 10/30/2009 @ 05:55am
Posted by Happy at 10/29/2009 @ 9:42pm
Subtext?....Kids aren't going to come back to the Happ household after last Halloween where he handed out "McCain-Palin" buttons with the candy.
heheh
Posted by Mask at 10/30/2009 @ 07:25am
For a real education and understanding of the problems facing our occupation of Afghanistan and some real solutions not only for us, but the Afghani people go to: rethinkafghanistan.com and watch the documentary.
It will open your mind...
(This advice is especially for you neo-cons)
Posted by chaoszen at 10/30/2009 @ 09:25am
Posted by BigPasture at 10/29/2009 @ 11:21pm |
"Almost all Serbian christian churches were burned or destroyed by Albanian muslims,"
Years of systematic oppression breeds that kind of resentment.
"you know illegal aliens in the country."
Says you and Slobodan.
(you *sure* you don't watch Dobbs, Rio?)
"You know, the ones that now have hundreds of islamic terrorist training camps in the republic in which 'Clinton saved them from the Serbs'!"
But the cons told us that all the terrorists are in Afghanistan...that's why we're there, right?
Posted by snowball777 at 10/30/2009 @ 09:45am
For a real education and understanding of the problems facing our occupation of Afghanistan and some real solutions not only for us, but the Afghani people go to: rethinkafghanistan.com and watch the documentary.
It will open your mind...
(This advice is especially for you neo-cons)
Posted by chaoszen at 10/30/2009 @ 09:25am
A nice piece of leftist BS.
If the US left Afghanistan, the ME, and abandoned Israel tomorrow, none of the global jihadist movements would cease their plan to implement Islam worldwide.
All these anti-war, anti-american propaganda sites and movements CHOOSE to ignore what the Islamic radicals say and write.
Posted by antisocialist at 10/30/2009 @ 09:56am
LAURA FLANDERS, your bashing of an administration for setting policy and reacting to the world the way it was 30 years ago is ludicrous and shows through as merely an attempt to bash Reagan (or his associates). A Democrat would have done the same thing in 1980. The situation might be construed as a little ironic now, but thats all. If you can't report world new in any other context than that of bashing your ideological enemies, then you should find another line of work.
Posted by CHIP THORNTON at 10/30/2009 @ 10:06am
But the cons told us that all the terrorists are in Afghanistan...that's why we're there, right?
Posted by snowball777 at 10/30/2009 @ 09:45am |
I guess Rio never bothers to read or have someone read the pertinent information to him.
I will wager he doesn't know that 9/11 was planned in Germany and Spain and conducted by U.S. based Saudis..
It doesn't seem to occur to these nit-wits that Al Qaeda is a worldwide network and that terror is a tactic that is better handled as a police matter.
They also don't seem to realize that invading other countries and bombing them makes us less safe by pissing entire populations off, and is used as a recruiting tool by terrorist organizations.
Or that the root of the problem in countries like Afghanistan is the result of poverty, lack of education, jobs, medical care and infrastructure. And that the cost of maintaing one soldier for one year in Afghanistan costs $1,000,000.
The cost of maintaining one soldier in Afghanistan for one year could pay for the construction, supplies and staffing of 20 schools.
But they just want to solve the worlds problems by killing people and destroying what little they have.. Unreal.
Posted by chaoszen at 10/30/2009 @ 10:10am
Posted by antisocialist at 10/30/2009 @ 09:56am
Anti, did you bother to watch the documentary? Because if you watched this film by Robert Greenwald who has received 25 Emmy Award nominations, four CableACE Award nominations, two Golden Globe nominations, the Peabody Award, the Robert Wood Johnson Award, and eight awards of Excellence from the Film Advisory Board and the 2002 Producer of the Year Award by The American Film Institute and you still just want to call it left-wing BS, then you are truly lost.
Not only that, you must worship Billo the Clown O'Reilly, as that bastion of credibility called him a "far left propagandist" and "just to the right of Fidel Castro."
You are a hopeless case. The planet would be much better off without the likes of you..
Posted by chaoszen at 10/30/2009 @ 10:26am
In Aghanistan the unemployment rate is 40%, so guess who is the employer of choice for Afghani men? Righto' "The Taliban". These men are paid the equivalent of 8 dollars a week to work for the taliban. And where does the money come from to pay them? Right again! Narcotics (Opium and Heroin).
And what income source other than the drugs might be involved? Right then again! The CIA. Who hand out our taxpayer money like it was going out of style (which it is). The puppet government of Hamid Karzai and his youngest brother Ahmed Wali Karzai who is influential with the Popalzai, a Pashtun clan are on the payroll of the CIA.
And guess what little Ahmed does with his spare time and all that American taxpayer money?
Can you say "Narco State" kids?
Isn't it all so very wonderful? And imagine all those US soldiers coming to back to your neighborhood with a severe drug problem..
How quaint huh? Just like in the good old days of Vietnam!
Wake up you dim-wits!
Posted by chaoszen at 10/30/2009 @ 10:54am
But the cons told us that all the terrorists are in Afghanistan...that's why we're there, right?
Posted by snowball777 at 10/30/2009 @ 09:45am
That's a lie Snowball. Why don't you try and defend your statement with some phony documentation since there is none that supports your lie.
No one who supports the fight against terrorism has EVER said that all of the terrorists are in Afghanistan.
Posted by antisocialist at 10/30/2009 @ 11:17am
Posted by antisocialist at 10/30/2009 @ 11:17am |
<fa·ce·tious adj 1 : joking or jesting often inappropriately 2 : meant to be humorous or funny>
Get a grip, looney literalist.
Posted by snowball777 at 10/30/2009 @ 11:21am
it's nice to get a good explanation and to know what to look for. Posted by srjenkins at 10/30/2009 @ 05:55am
Your body doesn't know what to do with white sugar... so it stores it as fat.
Cut out all sources of white sugar (no snickers bar for you). Use maple syrup on cereal, use Agave syrup in coffee or tea. Look for the addition of high fructose corn syrup in all things that you eat. You'll lose weight without trying. Add exercise and things go even better.
Posted by ficheye at 10/30/2009 @ 11:21am
Use logic on Larry and watch him backpedal....for instance-
"All these anti-war, anti-american propaganda sites and movements CHOOSE to ignore what the Islamic radicals say and write."----Posted by antisocialist at 10/30/2009 @ 09:56am
Okay, Larry...are you "pro-American"?
Ergo, by your own statement you must also be..
"pro-war"....right?
(Backpedalling begins...but the logic is undeniable given his OWN words)
Posted by Mask at 10/30/2009 @ 11:36am
Posted by chaoszen at 10/30/2009 @ 10:10am |
I've actually heard $250k/soldier/year, not that it makes your argument any less valid.
Posted by snowball777 at 10/30/2009 @ 11:37am
Get a grip, looney literalist. Posted by snowball777 at 10/30/2009 @ 11:21am
In the struggle to create a new reality, todays armchair warriors often eschew humor and sarcasm as an unnecessary barrier to this new mindset which seeks to justify 'the Forever War'.
War is now such a necessary financial component of our 'republic' that there exists a finely tuned mentality whose logic turns upon the spindle of a humorless and guarded philosophy of assault and retribution. 'They are out there and they will get us' is one of the primary starting places for this attitude, and humor is often reflexively responded to a 'a lie', because the brain no longer reacts normally to a commonly accepted social device.
Humor and sarcasm, for these indoctrinated individuals, is limited to derisive commentary about the mental state of the opponents of such madness. They are 'lunatics' or 'unpatriotic' if they don't accept the new faux patriotism, now the fundamental source of the economic tidal force. This is Ann Coulters' main tool - a derisive narrative that doesn't respond well to sarcastic analysis. I've never heard Mark Levin laugh. Or any right wing commentators, for that matter. It's certainly not a 'pre-existing condition' for most of these folks. They could seek medical attention! There may be hope yet. But not for Ann.
Posted by ficheye at 10/30/2009 @ 11:44am
Oops. Glen Beck laughs... but then he cries.
A different animal altogether.
Posted by ficheye at 10/30/2009 @ 11:47am
Posted by ficheye at 10/30/2009 @ 11:44am
I often like to cite "Gen. Jack Ripper" or "Buck Turgidson" from "Dr. Strangelove". In fact, much of their satirical dialogue is nearly paralleled as SERIOUS by much of the jingoistic/militarist Right.
Replace "Commie" with "Muslim/jihadist" and you'll get the picture.
Too bad we don't seem to have a Kubrick around to do it today with the "new crop".
Posted by Mask at 10/30/2009 @ 11:55am
Posted by ficheye at 10/30/2009 @ 11:44am |
Yup, they've definitely given Osama exactly what he was after...a paranoid, fear-mongering, militaristic overreaction that justifies his radical ideology to the 'Talib' of tomorrow.
I refuse to have my thought patterns dictated by terrorist morons and find great solace in poking fun at them.
To whit:
Using Missy the Pig as a covert operative...is there no level to which those fiendish jihadists won't stoop?
What do you get when a Japanese teen goes to a terror training camp? -- A wasabi wahhabi!
Posted by snowball777 at 10/30/2009 @ 12:14pm
Not only that, you must worship Billo the Clown O'Reilly, as that bastion of credibility called him a "far left propagandist" and "just to the right of Fidel Castro."
You are a hopeless case. The planet would be much better off without the likes of you..
Posted by chaoszen at 10/30/2009 @ 10:26am
Boy, and after I just defended you about flu vaccines on another blog (LOL)
At least be honest; Greenwald is a radical leftist. I watch Greenwald regularly on Democracy Now and Grit TV (Laura Flanders), in fact he was on Grit today.
He is an organizer with Blue America and co founder with Jane Hamsher of Accountability Now, both dedicated to removing centrist Democrats who won't support the leftist agenda. He publishes through the leftist Working Assets.
None of the CIA agents believes that the aims of the Islamists are real. You did nothing to show this is not just another leftist propaganda piece.
I can't stand O'Reilly and refuse to watch him. He is a anti-death penalty, pro homosexuality, moderate.
Posted by antisocialist at 10/30/2009 @ 12:27pm
What do you get when a Japanese teen goes to a terror training camp? -- A wasabi wahhabi! Posted by snowball777 at 10/30/2009 @ 12:14pm
That's good.
Maybe we could expand that to...
A wasabi wahabbi wannabe... !
Posted by ficheye at 10/30/2009 @ 12:42pm
Posted by ficheye at 10/30/2009 @ 11:44am
You must have some very isolate connection with conservatives and conservative media types.
I am known as the laughing pastor by congregations
I have head Mark Levin laugh often; he can be very funny.
Ann Coulter loves to laugh.
Limbaugh loves to laugh and does so often from my occasional listening
And multiple polls show conservatives are happier than liberals
<London, May 8 (ANI): People who have conservative ideologies are much more happier than liberal-leaners, says a new study.
The study found that regardless of marital status, income or church attendance, right-wing individuals reported greater life satisfaction and well being than left-wingers.
According to the researchers, Jaime Napier and John Jost of New York University, if your beliefs don't justify gaps in status, you could be left frustrated and disheartened.
"Our research suggests that inequality takes a greater psychological toll on liberals than on conservative apparently because liberals lack ideological rationalizations that would help them frame inequality in a positive (or at least neutral) light, Live Science quoted the researchers, as saying.
The results support and further explain a Pew Research Center survey from 2006, in which 47 percent of conservative Republicans in the U.S. described themselves as "very happy," while only 28 percent of liberal Democrats indicated such cheer.
"There is no reason to think that the effects we have identified here are unique to economic forms of inequality. Research suggests that highly egalitarian women are less happy in their marriages compared with their more traditional counterparts.
http://tinyurl.com/yhvx36a
Posted by antisocialist at 10/30/2009 @ 1:04pm
Posted by antisocialist at 10/30/2009 @ 11:17am
Larry is somewhat correct:
"Iraq is a central front on the war on terrorism"- Bush admin mantra.
It was common sense then. Any fool could see it was True, BP and Happy did. And, as we can see, as the war in Iraq has been WON, Islamic terrorism has vanished.
But then, now we know bush was a secret liberal, NOT one of the Ten Greatest Presidents of ALL TIME! (Old School thinking, from circa 2003-2008 1/2)
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Posted by antisocialist at 10/30/2009 @ 1:04pm
Who wouldn't be happier, knowing that soon, very soon, all the fagots, liberals, heathens and drat Muslims will be WIPED FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH IN A FIERY BLAZE.
The prophetic speedometer of end-time activity:
Rapture Index 158
Net Change -1
Updated Apr 9, 2007
Rapture Index of 130 to 160: Heavy prophetic activity
Rapture Index above 160: Fasten your seat belts
(BTW, I thought Pew was part of the liberal world domination movement?)
------
"Use maple syrup on cereal, use Agave syrup in coffee or tea."
Posted by ficheye at 10/30/2009 @ 11:21am
Use Agave syrup in marqueritas, in place of simple syrup. Much healthier alternative when getting plowed.
Posted by crabwalk at 10/30/2009 @ 1:24pm
"The results support and further explain a Pew Research Center survey from 2006, in which 47 percent of conservative Republicans in the U.S. described themselves as "very happy," while only 28 percent of liberal Democrats indicated such cheer.
I wonder, could it have been the case that the "happy conservatives" were still basking in the glow of the war in Iraq having just been won, after winning it in 2003, 2004, 2005? Also, and also, (lipstick!) that was back when Bush was still a hero to "real conservatives", before they realized they had been duped into voting for Bush twice by the worldwide liberal domination council. Methinks they were acting like dead fish, and going with the flow.
Whereas the "unhappy" liberal demons were wondering where all the money went, why all the people died and "who the hell actually holds my mortgage?"
Posted by crabwalk at 10/30/2009 @ 1:32pm
Posted by crabwalk at 10/30/2009 @ 1:32pm
Nope earlie polls, pre Bush were the same. Conservatives are by nature, more positive, happier people. Liberals on the other hand exist on unhappiness and dissatisfaction. The Nation website, it's bloggers, Huffington Post, and on and on, all testify to the unhappiness of liberals.
BTW, other polls show that conservative christians have better, more satisfying sex lives than nonbelieving liberals. After all the Bible contains instructions for having a sexually fulfilling relationship!
Posted by antisocialist at 10/30/2009 @ 1:39pm
I am known as the laughing pastor by congregations
"There is no reason to think that the effects we have identified here are unique to economic forms of inequality. Research suggests that highly egalitarian women are less happy in their marriages compared with their more traditional counterparts. http://tinyurl.com/yhvx36a Posted by antisocialist at 10/30/2009 @ 1:04pm
This argument you are making is endlessly debatable. You are such a literalist. Conservatives could be said to be more happy, of course, since they seem not to care about 'misfortune' in general, especially as it has to do with the welfare of others. It's mostly about money to them. Their money, not the money of others. And war. Of course they're happy. They are indoctrinated. The Nazis were happy for the most part, as well. While millions died. Actually happy.
Your protectionist stance made me laugh, I'll tell you that. And as to the response about the commentators laughing... I meant laughing involving something other than derision. You know that. You spent a considerable amount of time defending this point, but it's not resolvable by finding one article. How about all the conflicting data about vitamin C and caffeine? One week it's good, the next week bad. Endless, as is this particular topic. A 2006 poll and an article in LiveScience don't conclusively say anything except that people who don't care a lot about money may not be conservative. But to be impoverished may make you unhappy. It can be parsed many ways.
And, by the way, I'm not a liberal. I criticize both sides. Our system is dysfunctional. I will likely vote third party next time. But I'm not an advocate of traditional warfare just to put a fine point on the matter. And one can only imagine the subject matter of your humor.
Posted by ficheye at 10/30/2009 @ 1:40pm
"Limbaugh loves to laugh and does so often from my occasional listening "
Like after mouthing these gems, not racism... humor, like the term "femiNAZI" is not actually sexist at all. It's a joke, a play on words that equates women desiring to be viewed as humans, to the people that gassed and murdered millions of "perverts", non-believers, union members, and other assorted undesirables. A simple, easy comparison that should not rile anybody...it's really just a play on words.
"1. Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?"
chuckle
"Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it."
smirk
"The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies."
guffaw!
And of course the laugh a second non-racist version of "Barak the Magic Negro", also known as "Barak the Magic HALF-rican".
Side splitting humor from the True Messiah of the far right
Posted by crabwalk at 10/30/2009 @ 1:43pm
And just as a side note: I listen to Hannity, Levin, and Billie Cunningham on a regular basis. I know more about their personal demeanor than you assume; maybe more than you. They are more typically described as dour. They laugh at the expense of others, usually, and snarl more often than they laugh.
Posted by ficheye at 10/30/2009 @ 1:48pm
Posted by antisocialist at 10/30/2009 @ 1:39pm
Yeah, they also appear to have more:
divorces
and
abortions
than their liberal demon counterparts.
But, like I said, it could have something to do with the coming FIERY DEATH of us perverts and failures.
What we really need for some village humor is a good stoning. Ahh, the Good 'Ol Days.
(all participants must be males of legal age, beards will be tugged to root out fakes)
Wait, now I confused myself, am I writing about Old Testament Christians or Taliban?
Posted by crabwalk at 10/30/2009 @ 1:48pm
Crabwalk gets the Laugh of the Day award...
Posted by DejaVu at 10/29/2009 @ 12:18pm
How many of those do you have on your shelf, Larry?
Huh?
Huh?
yeah...
(sing a little song, do a little dance..get down tonight)
OOMCHA OOMCHA OOMCHA
Posted by crabwalk at 10/30/2009 @ 1:52pm
The laughing, dancing pastor with hands held high feeling the warm breeze from the explosions of cluster munitions. Now, that's someone who knows how to party and keep looking at the bright side of life. That's almost enough to convince me to take up the conservative mantle.
Posted by ficheye at 10/30/2009 @ 1:48pm
I believe the word for this is masochist.
Posted by srjenkins at 10/30/2009 @ 2:21pm
And, by the way, I'm not a liberal. I criticize both sides. Our system is dysfunctional. I will likely vote third party next time. But I'm not an advocate of traditional warfare just to put a fine point on the matter. And one can only imagine the subject matter of your humor.
Posted by ficheye at 10/30/2009 @ 1:40pm
I didn't say you were. I was responding to your comment that conservatives are always unhappy.
Posted by antisocialist at 10/30/2009 @ 2:53pm
Wait, now I confused myself, am I writing about Old Testament Christians or Taliban?----Posted by crabwalk at 10/30/2009 @ 1:48pm
"If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."
The Taliban or Leviticus 20:13? You make the call.
Posted by Mask at 10/30/2009 @ 3:04pm
And one can only imagine the subject matter of your humor.
Posted by ficheye at 10/30/2009 @ 1:40pm
Traditional comedies like Laurel and Hardy, Buster Keaton, Soupy Sales, Red Skelton, Carol Burnett, I love Lucy, Abbott & Costello, Jerry Lewis, Burns & Allen, Honeymooners, Jack Benny, Phil Silvers (Sgt Bilko), Steve Martin, Dean Martin
1930's comedy with people like Cary Grant (Arsenic & Old Lace, Topper, Bringing Up Baby), WC Fields, Marx Brothers
Non Traditional-Cheech & Chong, Benny Hill, Adams Family,
Crazy-Robin Williams (Mork & Mindy, Club Paradise), Animal House, 1st 5 years of SNL, Peter Sellers, Jim Carrey
70s and newer tv-the Office, My name is Earl, Cheers, Seinfeld, Taxi, Night Court, Newhart, Big Bang Theory, Wayan Brothers, Sanford & Son, All in the Family, Jeffersons, Fresh Prince of Bel Air
Comedy is my favorite movie and tv watching pastime-I love all kinds of genre except those with excessive foul language.
Posted by antisocialist at 10/30/2009 @ 3:19pm
Comedy is my favorite movie and tv watching pastime-I love all kinds of genre except those with excessive foul language. Posted by antisocialist at 10/30/2009 @ 3:19pm
Laughter is definitely something that soothes the soul. I miss Jim Carrey on 'In Living Color'. George Carlin was great, and I agree on the SNL first 5 years. It's funny on occasion, but not consistent.
I love the Scene with Phil Silvers in 'It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World' where his car floats down the river. I've long imagined a remake of that with Pee Wee Herman, Madonna and Sean Penn, Robin Williams... It could work!!
I digress.
Posted by ficheye at 10/31/2009 @ 01:29am
Posted by ficheye at 10/30/2009 @ 1:48pm I believe the word for this is masochist.
Posted by srjenkins at 10/30/2009 @ 2:21pm
Yeah, I know. But it's too often assumed that anyone with a progressive leaning would never listen to these guys. I like to stay informed of what the opposition listens to.
I drive a lot for part of my living so it's very convenient to tune in for a while and get a picture of what they think. Rush broadcasts too early for me, but you can always watch segments on YouTube. I can only take so much before my ears start bleeding.
Posted by ficheye at 10/31/2009 @ 01:36am
Anyone running for office should be very happy for endorsements by Palin. They would be a winner if Palin is supporting the other candidate. Like I've said many times in the past? I see Palin as nothing but a media *hore! She certainly isn't intelligent. I would consider using her book for starting a fire in the fireplace. Otherwise, I see no other reason for ever reading her garbage.
Posted by sheila60 at 10/31/2009 @ 07:44am
How is this for humor:
Palins buddy supported the Taliban while they were hiding Usama Bin Laden.
HAR!
Robin Williams could not make this stuff up...and also...dead fish.
Posted by crabwalk at 10/31/2009 @ 07:51am
Posted by ficheye at 10/31/2009 @ 01:36am
While true, I'd like to point something out.
Take a look at this Pew study (link below) touted as the "News Interest Index". There are 14% of people that believe that Fox News is "mostly liberal". I have no idea what these people pay attention to that makes Fox seem mostly liberal in comparison, but I have as much interest in tuning into that as I do listening to audiobooks featuring Bob Avakian.
But, should I listen to Rush or others on the inane right because he has a bigger microphone and can impact our national politics in some small way? Perhaps. But, you got the "sleeping with dogs" problem. You listen to something long enough; it becomes true. Why else do you think all these "conservatives" spend their time proselytizing here, day after day? They're looking for converts.
It's one thing is people are really interested in truth. But, I'd say that describes maybe 10% of people. People like Thrawn. Everyone else is just promoting their agenda - left and right.
Posted by srjenkins at 10/31/2009 @ 09:27am
Looks like those "Taliban Ties" are so scary...that:
SCOZZAFAVA SUSPENDS 23RD CAMPAIGN
SIENA POLL SUGGESTS REPUBLICAN CAN'T WIN
JUDE SEYMOUR / TIMES STAFF WRITER
SATURDAY, OCTOBER 31, 2009
Dede Scozzafava.....announced Saturday that she is suspending her campaign for the 23rd Congressional District and releasing all her supporters.....
"Today, I again seek to act for the good of our community," Ms. Scozzafava wrote....."It is increasingly clear that pressure is mounting on many of my supporters to shift their support. Consequently, I hereby release those individuals who have endorsed and supported my campaign to transfer their support as they see fit to do so. I am and have always been a proud Republican. It is my hope that with my actions today, my party will emerge stronger and our district and our nation can take an important step towards restoring the enduring strength and economic prosperity that has defined us for generations."...
=================================
A respectable move by Dede.......the natural next step, a BIG one, is to endorse the "Pet"!
Posted by Happy at 10/31/2009 @ 10:17am
Posted by Happy at 10/31/2009 @ 10:17am |
I wonder what her price was.
Posted by snowball777 at 10/31/2009 @ 11:58am
Everyone else is just promoting their agenda - left and right. Posted by srjenkins at 10/31/2009 @ 09:27am
I only listen with a grim fascination. And to stay informed. And I listen to the liberal folks just as much. Switching back and forth between the two points of view gives one a more direct overview about our national psyche - and what's wrong with it.
Believe me, I will never, ever be a convert to the stated agendas of those talk show folks. I know all about brain conditioning and indoctrination. Read 'Brainwash' by Dominic Streatfield.
But when conducting a 'conversation' with someone on the right it is very useful to know just where their mindset was formed. That's how you can tell BigPasture is a liar. He is so clearly influenced by someone with an agenda born out in deep right field, but he always says that he's not.
I understand your concern - and I thank you. But worry not... I do not want to see the collapse of our country into the further control of the theologian corporatists. My philosophy runs much deeper than that.
Posted by ficheye at 10/31/2009 @ 12:47pm
Joint Statement from House Republican Leadership Regarding NY-23 Special Election:
"As the House stands on the cusp of the forthcoming vote on a trillion-dollar healthcare reform measure, it is vital that we unify behind a candidate that will support reining in massive government spending and work with Republicans in Congress to restore fiscal sanity and propose thoughtful measures to get our nation's economy on the right track.
With Assemblywoman Scozzafava suspending her campaign, we urge voters to support Doug Hoffman's candidacy in New York's 23rd Congressional District.
He is the only active candidate in the race who supports lower taxes, fiscal responsibility and opposes Nancy Pelosi's agenda of government-run healthcare, more government and less jobs.
We look forward to welcoming Doug Hoffman into the House Republican Conference as we work together for the good of our nation."
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Demos pretending to be Repubs be warned!
Posted by Happy at 10/31/2009 @ 2:11pm
Demos pretending to be Repubs be warned! Posted by Happy at 10/31/2009 @ 2:11pm |
This means you, Newt! (who came out in support of scuzzy-fava-bean)
Posted by snowball777 at 10/31/2009 @ 6:14pm
Demos pretending to be Repubs be warned! Posted by Happy at 10/31/2009 @ 2:11pm |
We could all write Joe Leiberman and tell him to stop setting a bad example. They're just copying him. In reverse. Like the indian in 'Little Big Man'.
Back to the mall with you. Pennies from heaven!!
Posted by ficheye at 10/31/2009 @ 7:10pm
Anyone running for office should be very happy for endorsements by Palin. They would be a winner if Palin is supporting the other candidate. Like I've said many times in the past? I see Palin as nothing but a media *hore! She certainly isn't intelligent. I would consider using her book for starting a fire in the fireplace. Otherwise, I see no other reason for ever reading her garbage.
Posted by sheila60 at 10/31/2009 @ 07:44am
I would read her stuff and listen to her simply because she is not a liberal or a wimpy moderate.
Posted by antisocialist at 10/31/2009 @ 7:23pm
Little Big Man was one of the best, along with anything Mel Brooks.
Posted by Denise29 at 10/31/2009 @ 7:54pm
Palin is a joke, and an insult to women everywhere.
Posted by Denise29 at 10/31/2009 @ 7:56pm
Palin is a joke, and an insult to women everywhere. Posted by Denise29 at 10/31/2009 @ 7:56pm
I'll bet she dressed up as Tina Fey on Halloween.
Posted by ficheye at 11/01/2009 @ 01:09am
I would read her stuff and listen to her simply because she is not a liberal or a wimpy moderate.
Posted by antisocialist at 10/31/2009 @ 7:23pm
I turned off the computer and sat down in front of the tube, but your post kept resonating in my brain.
Will the voice of reason ever prevail here with you, my friend? Because the only points of view left are: Hard line conservative... or extremist.
And Palin is really neither. She is a person who loves the limelight and likes to stir up controversy. You are almost saying that you like her just because a lot of people dislike her. That's playground material. And moderates aren't wimpy... they're sane... they just want to continue life without strife. Not forge ahead to armageddon.
I've seen a lot better posting from you in regards to some of your comments as of late. You are being just plain pissy at times. If the Lord is your shepherd why is he leading you so far astray? If the only thing that's going to make you happy is for everyone to rise up against the world and get busy killing people until all that's left are the 'good christian folks' with superior firepower... I'm soon going to start understanding why muslims hate us so much. If only they recognized that many of us aren't conservative christians. Allahu Akbar!
Posted by ficheye at 11/01/2009 @ 01:33am
FICH is prescient. Do we really want this country to have more extremists? Isn't that why we went to war, to limit right wing religious extremists?
Posted by crabwalk at 11/01/2009 @ 04:35am
If Rohrbacher get's his little wet dream, and helps elect an extremist to office, who will this extremists, along with the likes of Sarah "I'm not a quitter!" Palin support next to establish "stability" for a region far, far away from the US?
Last time it was the Taliban, which supported Al Qaida.
Before that it was Saddam Hussein, who supported other groups of terrorists.
Before that it was right wing death squads in S. America.
And these ass clowns call "the left" useful idiots?
Who will they support in 2010, then send someone else's kids to fight against in 2018?
We know it won't be anyone from Haus Saud, as they are "good" Muslim right wing dictators that only jail bad people, never democracy advocates.
Will Palins pets cozy up to Islam Karimov like Chimpy did? While fighting for "freedom"?
Oh well, as long as they fight the concepts of feminism, equal pay for a days work, clean air and water, safe workplace regulations, and promote cheap labor and cheap resources they are all good dictators.
Maybe Sarah could send her African Priest to cleanse them of any undue influence from witches.
Posted by crabwalk at 11/01/2009 @ 04:47am
I've seen a lot better posting from you in regards to some of your comments as of late. You are being just plain pissy at times. If the Lord is your shepherd why is he leading you so far astray? If the only thing that's going to make you happy is for everyone to rise up against the world and get busy killing people until all that's left are the 'good christian folks' with superior firepower... I'm soon going to start understanding why muslims hate us so much. If only they recognized that many of us aren't conservative christians. Allahu Akbar!
Posted by ficheye at 11/01/2009 @ 01:33am
G-d isn't leading me astray. G-d calls all mankind to liberty. todays leftist liberalism leads to enslavement to govt and appeasement to those who wish to kill us.
Moderates are almost more dangerous. I've said for years that moderates lack conviction and promote compromise. Christianity and secular liberty both understand that you cannot make compromises with freedom. Nor in Christianity is there room for compromising one's faith.
Posted by antisocialist at 11/01/2009 @ 09:46am
I would read her stuff and listen to her simply because she is not a liberal or a wimpy moderate. Posted by antisocialist at 10/31/2009 @ 7:23pm |
Yes, please do keep up that reflexive approximation of thought; the same kind of deep insight that got the soccer mom onto McCain's ticket in the first place.
Posted by snowball777 at 11/01/2009 @ 09:49am
I would read her stuff and listen to her simply because she is not a liberal or a wimpy moderate. Posted by antisocialist at 10/31/2009 @ 7:23pm |
Yes, please do keep up that reflexive approximation of thought; the same kind of deep insight that got the soccer mom onto McCain's ticket in the first place.
Posted by snowball777 at 11/01/2009 @ 09:49am
Why wouldn't I prefer someone who promotes freedom and constitutional govt over those who promote enslavement and totalitarianism (the left)?
Posted by antisocialist at 11/01/2009 @ 10:01am
Posted by antisocialist at 11/01/2009 @ 10:01am |
Because you apparently wouldn't know one from the other with a flashlight, GPS, and divine guidance.
Posted by snowball777 at 11/01/2009 @ 11:15am
holy cow, larry, you're losing it.
better go take a big drink of your stimulus funded water.
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/01/2009 @ 12:19pm
Posted by antisocialist at 11/01/2009 @ 10:01am |
Because you apparently wouldn't know one from the other with a flashlight, GPS, and divine guidance.
Posted by snowball777 at 11/01/2009 @ 11:15am
Au Contraire-it is leftists like you who despise the constitution and seek enslavement of the American people into Federal control of their lives. It is you who hates freedom and personal responsibility as you enable these politicians who dismantle our liberties and steal the fruit of our labor.
"It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly native American criminal class except Congress."
Mark Twain, 1894
"If a nation values anything more than freedom, it will lose its freedom; and the irony of it is that, if it is comfort or money it values more, it will lose that too."
William Somerset Maughan, 1941
"A wise and frugal government ... shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government."
Thomas Jefferson, First Inaugural Address, March 4, 1801
"No man's life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session. "
Mark Twain (1866)
"When men get in the habit of helping themselves to the property of others, they cannot easily be cured of it."
The New York Times, in a 1909 editorial opposing the very first income tax
Posted by antisocialist at 11/01/2009 @ 12:28pm
"A wise and frugal government ... shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government."
Thomas Jefferson, First Inaugural Address, March 4, 1801
•• what did ol' tom know about dioxin?
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/01/2009 @ 12:50pm
"Those who drink socialist stimulus water shall forever be condemned to a life of marxist enslavement."
Frosty Zoom upon hearing that Reverend Satan's water was funded with federal money.
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/01/2009 @ 12:52pm
"Those who drink socialist stimulus water shall forever be condemned to a life of marxist enslavement."
Frosty Zoom upon hearing that Reverend Satan's water was funded with federal money.
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/01/2009 @ 12:52pm
I only wish that the city allowed me to put in my own well. Then I would not have to do so. But that is just part of the tyranny of modern govt that continues to take away the freedom of the people. My mother is fortunate that she has her own well on her property.
Posted by antisocialist at 11/01/2009 @ 1:06pm
Because you apparently wouldn't know one from the other with a flashlight, GPS, and divine guidance.
Posted by snowball777 at 11/01/2009 @ 11:15am
There's something else going on with the pastor.
Remember when he said he didn't have health insurance? Remember when he seemed more logical and not bothered by some of the less critical posts ( of his point of view)?
I think he's physically ill. His knee-jerk responses reflect a crankiness not born of mere political combativeness.
This remark about Palin and the moderates is beneath him. I think that he's in physical pain of some sort. These quotes he lists above are the classic Libertarian struggle with the system that they despise, yet can't survive without. After going to his favorite resource for Libertarian quotes I can't imagine a more conflicted political stance. All they know is someone else should pay taxes.
That he would even vaguely suggest that he would fall in behind Sarah Palin - who is not qualified to run her local girl scout troupe - when he is such an ardent militarist does not seem logical at all. I think he also suffers from PTSD. He shows a lot of the signs.
Posted by ficheye at 11/01/2009 @ 1:06pm
And why isn't he in church?
Posted by ficheye at 11/01/2009 @ 1:25pm
Remember when he said he didn't have health insurance? Remember when he seemed more logical and not bothered by some of the less critical posts ( of his point of view)?
I think he's physically ill. His knee-jerk responses reflect a crankiness not born of mere political combativeness.
This remark about Palin and the moderates is beneath him. I think that he's in physical pain of some sort. These quotes he lists above are the classic Libertarian struggle with the system that they despise, yet can't survive without. After going to his favorite resource for Libertarian quotes I can't imagine a more conflicted political stance. All they know is someone else should pay taxes.
That he would even vaguely suggest that he would fall in behind Sarah Palin - who is not qualified to run her local girl scout troupe - when he is such an ardent militarist does not seem logical at all. I think he also suffers from PTSD. He shows a lot of the signs.
Posted by ficheye at 11/01/2009 @ 1:06pm
Uh, of course I'm in physical pain-I'm disabled.
But being in pain has nothing to do with being against unconstitutional govt takeovers. I've been in that fight for 50 years.
Nor have I said that someone else should pay taxes. Another non sequitur. Limited govt means less taxes.
And your Palin comment was another non sequitur. I did not say anything about supporting Palin in an election. I said I would listen to her or read her writings because she is conservative. How you make that leap to voting for her defies logic.
Posted by antisocialist at 11/01/2009 @ 2:13pm
And why isn't he in church?
Posted by ficheye at 11/01/2009 @ 1:25pm
We had early morning services
Posted by antisocialist at 11/01/2009 @ 2:14pm
Posted by antisocialist at 11/01/2009 @ 12:28pm |
"...it is leftists like you ....who despise the constitution and seek enslavement of the American people into Federal control of their lives."
Who supported the 'Patriot' Act, you or me?
"It is you who hates freedom and personal responsibility as you enable these politicians who dismantle our liberties and steal the fruit of our labor."
Laughably stupid conjecture.
"It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly native American criminal class except Congress." Mark Twain, 1894 "No man's life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session. " Mark Twain (1866)
Spoken like an anarchist...make any bombs....lately?
"If a nation values anything more than freedom, it will lose its freedom; and the irony of it is that, if it is comfort or money it values more, it will lose that too."
Let us know when you recognize something other than dollars as representative of freedom.
"A wise and frugal government ... shall restrain men from injuring one another,"
Anti-predatory lending laws?
Environmental protection?
"shall leave them OTHERWISE free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement,"
Which regulations do you feel are in place which aren't there to protect someone as stated by Jefferson in the first part of the quote?
"and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government."
So you'd support revoking the 'bread' we send to Israel each and every year, cutting the defense budget in half, and ending Dubya's two wars today?
"When men get in the habit of helping themselves to the property of others, they cannot easily be cured of it."
Can also be applied to casino capitalists.
Posted by snowball777 at 11/01/2009 @ 2:22pm
Posted by snowball777 at 11/01/2009 @ 2:22pm No one has lost liberties from the Patriot Act. Not one single aspect of my life or any other US citizens life has been restricted or changed.
Stupid conjecture? You support restricting Americans choices on healthcare (or even no using healthcare).
You support bigotry against people of religious faith-so you are anti-1st amendment.
You want to revitalize and expand the welfare state-which makes you against personal accountability and responsibility.
You are constantly anti-military
You support marxist taxation and redistribution of wealth = makes you at least someone who embraces elements of marxist govt.
The money sent to Israel is part of a treaty agreement between the US, Israel, and Egypt. You propose that the US not honor that treaty?
And despite the personal gain to you, you despise capitalism
<"When men get in the habit of helping themselves to the property of others, they cannot easily be cured of it." Can also be applied to casino capitalists.>
Posted by antisocialist at 11/01/2009 @ 2:57pm
Well, now it's pretty clear why conservatives can not allow Scozzafava to win!
SCOZZAFAVA THROWS SUPPORT TO OWENS
SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 1, 2009
......After bowing out of the 23rd Congressional race Saturday, Republican Scozzafava released the following statement today at 2 :06 p.m.:
I want to thank you for your support and friendship....
Since announcing the suspension of my campaign, I have thought long and hard about what is best for the people of this District, and how to answer your questions. This is not a decision that I have made lightly.
You know me.....
It is in this spirit that I am writing to let you know I am supporting Bill Owens for Congress and urge you to do the same.
Posted by Happy at 11/01/2009 @ 3:24pm
Thanks to Ms. Dede Scozzafava's coming clean and shedding her cloak, one would assume the GOP's `establishment' will accept its spanking with some serious introspection....and to be very careful to back the remaining LIBERAL Scozzafavas still carrying the GOP party card!
Posted by Happy at 11/01/2009 @ 3:32pm
Posted by antisocialist at 11/01/2009 @ 2:57pm |
"Stupid conjecture? You support restricting Americans choices on healthcare (or even no using healthcare)."
False. I'm actually against the provisions to require health insurance...I believe you have every right to deny yourself modern medicine and even support assisted suicide for terminal people.
"You support bigotry against people of religious faith-so you are anti-1st amendment."
False. I'm against the bigotry OF people of religious faith against people like me.
"You want to revitalize and expand the welfare state-which makes you against personal accountability and responsibility."
"You are constantly anti-military"
I've stated on these pages that tactical assassinations against AQ would be more productive than wholesale occupation of foreign nations.
I am against boondoggles and corporate welfare.
"You support marxist taxation and redistribution of wealth = makes you at least someone who embraces elements of marxist govt."
Only so far as you perceive any and all taxation to be 'marxist'.
"The money sent to Israel is part of a treaty agreement between the US, Israel, and Egypt. You propose that the US not honor that treaty?"
I propose they never should have signed it in the first place.
"And despite the personal gain to you, you despise capitalism"
CASINO capitalism...I have no problem with markets, but I want mine to actually be FREE ones, not the state-subsidized, too-big-to-fail, affectation of capitalism that has brought us to this state.
Posted by snowball777 at 11/01/2009 @ 4:18pm
The more I read about 'libertarianism. the more I am convinced that they are the original whiners that all other whiners are modeled after. There's a 'Yeah, but' answer for everything.
Pastor when I said 'fall in behind' in reference to Palin, That wasn't supposed to mean you would vote for her. That meant you would 'lend support to her ideas'. You'll 'yeah, but' that one too, but if you say you'll read her books it's a slippery slope to say you're only doing it to annoy people on 'the left'. And the wimpy moderates. Let's not leave them out.
As far as the 'non sequitur' allegations, I was talking about you, firstly, then referencing some of your 'thoughts'. It looks good on the page, though.
Posted by ficheye at 11/01/2009 @ 5:51pm
Scozzafava Manager Backs Hoffman
November 1, 2009 6:04 PM
Assemb. Dede Scozzafava (R) may be crossing party lines to support atty Bill Owens (D), but her now ex-mgr Matt Burns isn't going along with that decision......Burns told us today, a day after leaving the campaign. "I am supporting Doug Hoffman, because denying Nancy Pelosi another foot soldier is vital to restoring fiscal responsibility and common sense in Washington."
....He said Scozzafava first considered getting out of the race 10/30, but after the 10/31 Siena poll revealed her stock plummeting, and her unfavorable ratings rising, she decided to leave the race....
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The GOP dumped almost a million dollar into Ms. Scozzafava (D pretending to be R).....nice returns and hopefully, a cheap lesson over the long term!
Posted by Happy at 11/01/2009 @ 9:52pm