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RedditThe good folks on the set of Morning Joe spent Friday morning dodging prairie oysters flung by the host at rival Rush Limbaugh, who had called Joe Scarborough a "neutered, chickified moderate." Rush had simply been trying to geld another Republican who dared criticize him, but this time Scarborough gelded back and it was not a pretty sight.
It all started earlier this week, when Scarborough ripped Rush for going "off the deep end" by jiggling with glee over Obama's failure to win the 2016 Olympics for Chicago.
No forgiver of lese-majeste, Limbaugh hit back Thursday at Joe and "PMSNBC":
"I would be careful," Joe replied this morning, "if I had put my testicles in a blind trust for George W. Bush for eight years." He liked the image so much he painted it again, and again: "There are a lot of people on the right that in fact did put their testicles in a blind trust for the past eight years and stopped being conservative and started being apologists."
Eeew! on Joe's suitcase metaphor. But more eeew on Time.com's Mark Halperin and his rictal smile as it dawns on him that he's one of the apologists who Joe just sliced and diced.
More substantively, though, anybody who's been paying attention has to know that much of Scarborough's argument is laughable: Does anyone remember his principled opposition to the invasion of Iraq? Nope, because until relatively recently he was all for boots on the ground pretty much everywhere there's terra firma. And how can this former congressman-soldier in Newt Gingrich's Contract-with-America revolution (which shut down the government when President Clinton wouldn't slash Medicare funds) really claim that he represents a different kind of conservatism?
But kudos to Joe for trying to correct the prevailing, erroneous sexual math in which conservative=manly and liberal or moderate=emasculated. While this nutsy equation has been operating nationally for ages, a personal cockfight between Rush and Joe has been in the psychological works for a bit, too. As I wrote about Morning Joe's shimmying, unpredictable political tilt back in February:
You can imagine Rush and Sean taunting Joe behind the trackhouse over at WABC [Radio]: "You're not a real man, you're on MSNBC! You work with liberal girls and lesbos. Joe likes girls, Joe likes girls..." And Scarborough, who has the insecure performer's instinct for where the sympathies of 51 percent of any crowd lie, is very susceptible to hazing. (He's written, as the New York Observer points out, that he quit his frat at the University of Alabama because he didn't want to dodge Scotch bottles tossed from third-floor windows and have upperclassmen yell at him, "Hey, queerball, pick dat up!")
Joe stood up to the hazing this time, and it doesn't look like he'll blink at some later date. That's in part because the Palm Beach Penguin left him no choice--how else can a true, white male conservative react to being called "chickified"?--and also because some political taboos are loosening, with both David Brooks and South Carolina senator Lindsey Graham already openly defying Rushbo.
But what's really changed is the country, which, most polls show, is no longer buying this Master of the Universe trash talk from anyone. It's pointedly funny that this kind of tea-bag-swinging is taking place just as the GOP has been getting its panties into a twist over women: Sen. John Kyl of Arizona snarling, "I don't need maternity care" in an insurance policy, Virginia gubernatorial candidate Robert McDonnell's graduate school thesis describing working women as "detrimental" to the family, and the National Republicann Congressional Committee saying, of House speaker Nancy Pelosi, that Gen. Stanley McChrystal "should put her in her place." If the real purpose of a political party is to win elections, don't you think it would go out of its way not to offend the more numerous gender?
Well, nuts to that, says Rush. Joe, however, seems to be getting it.
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Leslie, the next thing you know the health insurers will deny health care to women across the board because they are a 'pre-existing condition'!
I'm anxious to hear any conservative rebuttal on this topic. On one of Chris Nichols last posts about the Michele Bachmann phenomenon they switched the topic from Michele to Reagan faster than you could say 'Star Wars'. Hardly anyone (conservative) had anything to say about the errant congresswoman.
It's much like the pit bull problem... is it the dogs or is it their environment? And who knows how it got loose and got into my yard? At moments like these the people complicit in looking the other way defer from comment while they try to stifle a laugh.
Posted by ficheye at 10/09/2009 @ 7:00pm
i love when these republicans, coservatives go at one another, the good old boys.anyway,joe s. i have respect for he does speak the truth at times and also brings on intellectual guest on morning joe.rush l. is a pathetic human being.
Posted by aristidis at 10/09/2009 @ 7:43pm
Good gosh. I come to the blogs expecting everyone to be raving about Obama bagging the Peace Prize. Not a single piece! Does this mean libs are embarassed?
No comments about the Peace Prize committee jumping the shark? What gives? Or is this piece just a distractor, going after the usual suspects?
Posted by twillie at 10/09/2009 @ 8:10pm
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/notion/482445/the_aspirational_nobel
Posted by frosty zoom at 10/09/2009 @ 9:48pm
DETROIT LIONS AWARDED VINCE LOMBARDI TROPHY
Detroit (AP) October 9th, 2009
In a surprise move today, NFL officials announced that the Detroit Lions would be awarded professional football's highest award normally awarded to the winner of the Super Bowl.
"We feel that the Lions are playing with a new verve and their victory would have been all but assured", an NFL spokesman was quote as saying.
Posted by frosty zoom at 10/09/2009 @ 10:06pm
Hey Frosty,
Since you liked The Browser, I thought I'd recommend another feed.
http://www.jpzenger.com
Posted by srjenkins at 10/09/2009 @ 10:20pm
Go Obama,It seems the world likes an American that talks with not to them. It is a breath of fresh air. Now let's start righting the wrongs of the past 8 years.
Posted by whatozz at 10/09/2009 @ 10:29pm
Posted by frosty zoom at 10/09/2009 @ 10:06pm | ignore this person | warn this person
cruel, but really funny frosty!
Posted by BigPasture at 10/09/2009 @ 10:45pm
Posted by whatozz at 10/09/2009 @ 10:29pm | ignore this person | warn this person
Your lips and Obamanations lips are one on the ........ of the world! What a proud moment.
Posted by BigPasture at 10/09/2009 @ 10:47pm
Is this Inside Hollywood or some such gossipy BS?
Does anyone here actually give a shit "Who Wears the Rants"?
Posted by Happy at 10/10/2009 @ 12:22am
I think that now we are to believe that HAPPY gives a shit. NOW I feel a lot better. The mist is lifting.
Posted by ficheye at 10/10/2009 @ 01:02am
RUSH LIMO IS A WORTHLESS PIECE OF GARBAGE!!! It has been proven over and over that this POS is a LIAR!!! The men that listen to him are bigots and morons!!! FACT!!!!
Posted by Tiger2Lover at 10/10/2009 @ 02:21am
Rush is a sexist tub of lard.
Why does equate political positions with masculinity. It's really infintile.
And, Scarborough fell right into the same gutter. What the hell was Joe referencing about his nuts?
What the hell is rush questioning others masculinity while he is the one with the moobs?
Posted by koroviev at 10/10/2009 @ 03:40am
HAR!
Nice to see one of their own call out the quislings and apologists.
Of course, after 8 years of apologetics, bend-over and ignore The Law and twist and shout interpretation of the Constitution...now all of a sudden the cons call Bush a "liberal". When their policies fail miserably they simply do not have the guts or simple ethics to admit that things went terribly wrong under their rules. Nope, the easiest explanation for them is not that Bushs conservative policies failed, but that he MUST be a liberal.
And then TWILLIE, who apparently cannot read so well, shows up and simply is unable to be proud that his Commander in Chief won a Nobel.
Posted by crabwalk at 10/10/2009 @ 07:03am
The cons are crying,what a shame. Where does this latest conspiracy start. The bad people at the Nobel. They wanted to give an award to Michelle B and Sarah P for prettiest dunce in the ideologue category. Glenny could win in the best crier category and Rush in the biggest racist buffoon category. The fact of the matter is that the Presidency of the United States is too big to fail. Wily coyote tried to fall off the cliff. Luckily the American people showed up in the 2008 election and showed those policies the door.The world is looking for leadership,the conservatives haven't had their variety since "the actor". Let's help the world stage get less dangerous.
Posted by whatozz at 10/10/2009 @ 08:14am
What happens when new con repub blood sucking ticks are left with nothing but other blood sucking ticks to straddle? Well, they all start looking at the most engorged one and-- oh duh!
As far the Obama Nobel, I'm guessing in this timeline, it was just always meant to go to a currently sitting US president, like 2 years ago... so one could say Obama getting it is somewhat actually a little late!
Posted by hsuBfools at 10/10/2009 @ 09:01am
'Good gosh. I come to the blogs expecting everyone to be raving about Obama bagging the Peace Prize. Not a single piece! Does this mean libs are embarassed? No comments about the Peace Prize committee jumping the shark? What gives? Or is this piece just a distractor, going after the usual suspects?'
There are many pieces that explain various liberal views of Obama's Nobel Peace Prize, "twillie." I'll just mention two of my favorites. Richard Kim has a good one on the NATION's website. I'd also strongly recommend Glenn Greenwald's reaction at SLATE.
Posted by JakobFabian at 10/10/2009 @ 09:38am
Go Obama,It seems the world likes an American that talks with not to them. It is a breath of fresh air. Now let's start righting the wrongs of the past 8 years.
Posted by whatozz at 10/09/2009 @ 10:29pm
You're kidding right? Obama doesn't speak with you, he speaks like a typical professor, in a lecturing manner.
Even the Nation has commented on this previously.
Posted by antisocialist at 10/10/2009 @ 10:10am
<i>Posted by antisocialist at 10/10/2009 @ 10:10am </i>
I think it's worth pointing out, for the record, that just because one is a professor, that does not mean one's default mode of speech is lecturing. Just saying.
Also, on the subject of the thread...Leslie's claim that Scarborough's a hypocrite doesn't change the fact that his substantive point is right: when you blindly follow one leader who proclaims himself to be conservative rather than sticking to your own principles, there's a problem. I think that's more generally applicable, too: don't put the leadership of one person over the principles by which you have promised to govern.
Posted by Thrawn at 10/10/2009 @ 11:01am
Random sidenote:
The tagline for this piece is fairly clever...but asking "who wears the rants" immediately made me think of Scooby Doo.
"Raggy, who wears the rants?"
Posted by Thrawn at 10/10/2009 @ 11:02am
After all rush limbaugh is the very picture of masculinity.
That is if masculinity is defined as being a morbidly obese drug addict.
Think of how many "conservatives" you know that talk like they're the worlds biggest badass because they own a camoflauged hunting jacket and they once got into a fistfight 20 years ago.
The truth? Most conservative tough guy are soft, flabby bitches that would be the first to go if they couldn't get their wonderbread from their local supermarket.
Generally I chalk the tough guy image up to these people compensating for their lack of confidence regarding their sexuality, and/or their tiny peckers.
Posted by TexasFlood at 10/10/2009 @ 11:08am
Obama received thte "Participent" Prize in a not so veiled attempt by a Europe to stop America from escalating in Afganistan. They have no stomach for their own defensive interests and they have no stamina.
That is not to say we should go full bore into Afganistan, but it does show that Europe hasn't had any real influence on the world scene since America saved it from one big German lesson...twice, until now.. now is a good time to push America.. since now Eyrope sees us with a weakened American economy, a govt whose policies will further weaken the economic clout and slow us down even more, and a govt in power that actual cares what Europe, thinks about America,.... instead of what America thinks about America..and half to more than half in America are not happy with what is taking place here...
Conservatives are conserned for what is best for Americans and America...not what Europe thinks America should do for whats best for the world...big difference. The Democratic Party is dead and should be renamed the Socialists Party.
Chinas influence will grow greatly at the expense of Americas self inflicted wounds and Europes influence on us...China does not have a history of benevolent actions on those they defeat, they are pragmatic...I believe Europe(and Russia, the Islamic world) would like to see America weakened economicly, miltarily, and influencialy. The current US govt is right on path to create just that senario.
Posted by YourJomamma at 10/10/2009 @ 11:13am
As far as the thread...
Limbaugh/Joe "bout"?
A joke....I believe the left lives in pants shitting fear of Limbaugh since he constantly pulls their pants down publicly and exposes the fraud and horseshit of the left...He MUST be stopped, for the people , of course......MSNBC needs ratings and viewers, of which they have neither..the network is a lefty loon love in and Joe is on because he criticises the right when they are wrong...there is no counter part on the left...
Thr right also realises the left doesn't "get" Limbaugh and never will, which is why they would rather pull the plug his freedom of speech and regulate "fairness".
The true conservatives read this article, smile.. and
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Posted by YourJomamma at 10/10/2009 @ 11:18am
Rush will do wonders for the NFL and the ST Louis team. It will be an instant TV draw...and a success. And guess who will be on stage yet again...?
Posted by YourJomamma at 10/10/2009 @ 11:19am
Ah, jomamma, a perfect example of what I was talking about!
Most likely a tiny dick, an most assuredly absolutely no balls.
Please go back to your cubicle to cower in fear, the stench of urine from your pants-wetting is overwhelming.
Posted by TexasFlood at 10/10/2009 @ 11:21am
The lefty loon protesters and every anti Rush group will be outside the stadium every Sunday..it will make Carnival look like a kindergarden picnic...
I, for one, can't wait...bus loads of Ol'Jesse supportes, CODE PINKOS, anarchists, Gays, ..my God..in HD to boot....
this is going to make a fortune for all...
Posted by YourJomamma at 10/10/2009 @ 11:22am
Ah, jomamma, a perfect example of what I was talking about!
Most likely a tiny dick, an most assuredly absolutely no balls.
Please go back to your cubicle to cower in fear, the stench of urine from your pants-wetting is overwhelming.
Posted by TexasFlood at 10/10/2009 @ 11:21am
This is all you can come up with on this thread?
Fear? of what? your intellectual wit?
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzz
Posted by YourJomamma at 10/10/2009 @ 11:44am
Generally I chalk the tough guy image up to these people compensating for their lack of confidence regarding their sexuality, and/or their tiny peckers.
Posted by TexasFlood at 10/10/2009 @ 11:08am
So, your image of a masculine man is one from the left of today?...
Say a Phil Donahue or Alan ALda type wearing a peace now at all costs button, carrying a gay marriage flag , on his way to a feminist rally,demanding free health care for all during a kill the millionares march in front of a demonstration demanding we sue our battle field enemies instead of stopping them from shooting us? As we ask what we can do to mnot make Bin Laden not like us?
wearing pink pantes, of course, as they work for ACORN?
Tough Texas image for sure...try that in Dallas first...
This could make this thread fun...describing a masculine man today from different points of view...
We got yours, Tex..
Posted by YourJomamma at 10/10/2009 @ 11:52am
More like the constant undying fear you and your compatriots won't let go of. That the cold war isn't ove and the commies are out to get you at every turn.
The pants-shitting fear that your precious way of life might *gasp* have to change before you go of to the great beyond.
Every single post you make (and not just you, it's plenty of people left and right) is saturated with your pussified version of reality. It's really quite disgusting, maybe you can tone it down a little?
Signed, Your Local Conservative Tough Guy
Posted by TexasFlood at 10/10/2009 @ 11:55am
Well if you really want to go there I'd say there is no real version of masculinity anymore.
How bout...self-reliance and thinking for oneself? Then again that's not exactly gender specific is it?
Oh, by the way I'm not from Texas and I certainly don't equate liberal mouthpieces with masculinity. Funny though how you'd immediately jump to that conclusion, since I'm certainly not a liberal, just like to laugh at the hypocrisy an nonsense.
Just like I laughed when a president that propogates war abroad wins the Nobel peace prize. Oh the hilarity!
Have fun shitting yourself my friend.
Posted by TexasFlood at 10/10/2009 @ 12:04pm
Phil Donahue for prez.
Posted by Denise29 at 10/10/2009 @ 12:05pm
This is getting SO stupid. More media-induced infighting over inconsequential BS to keep us distracted from the big stuff. Like the 'neutralization' of the zionist media's next target, Iran, for example. The writer / producers for both 'shows' probably planned this in advance. They used to call it 'great television.' Now they just call it 'great.'
Same stunt with the Obama Nobel Prize crap. Another divide, distort, distract tactic. Unfortunately, it works. The zionists WILL get their next war, no matter what.
Posted by DejaVu at 10/10/2009 @ 12:23pm
Well, I see Jomomma has a bit more free time now that the economy is in the toilet.
Posted by srjenkins at 10/10/2009 @ 12:30pm
Oh, by the way I'm not from Texas and I certainly don't equate liberal mouthpieces with masculinity. Funny though how you'd immediately jump to that conclusion, since I'm certainly not a liberal, just like to laugh at the hypocrisy an nonsense.
Just like I laughed when a president that propogates war abroad wins the Nobel peace prize. Oh the hilarity!
Posted by TexasFlood at 10/10/2009 @ 12:04pm
I assumed you are from Texas by the handle Texas Flood..just like most on the left assume all conservatives think Bush was a conservative.
I dont see you as a conservative in anyway..but my opinion doesn't matter.
I don't see a commie threat or cold war. I do see a hot war coming here...courtescy of Islamo nuts who live here and those entering from our southern borders..you would find an evening of discusions interesting with a couple of friends of mine who lived in El Slvador, Beleise and Hondoras for the last 6 years......if you look at the world map, I believe almost every non muslim country bordering a muslim country is at war or has an insurgency issues with the hard core believers of the "religion of peace", all dying to set up governments entangled with Islam.
The war is coming here and it has nothing to do with pants shitting, it does have a lot to do with being aware....
Posted by YourJomamma at 10/10/2009 @ 12:53pm
Well, I see Jomomma has a bit more free time now that the economy is in the toilet.
Posted by srjenkins at 10/10/2009 @ 12:30pm
Yeah, that must be it...not the fact that I have to leave on Sunday to get to NY and work longer harder and smarter in order to just maintain..and keep my shrinking profits away from guys like you...
yes the economy is in the toilet...and it is getting worse...and I am sure you see the stimulus bill working creating all those new green union jobs!!!!!!!!!! Thousands lining up for green jobs in Detroit created by the stimulus? Nope...checks created by others who worked for it, earned it..or printed it from govt...any guess how many weeks that $3,000 will last?.1,2..and then? right...same with all govt "stimulus..stimulus runs out when govt checks stop...any guess if we will more stimulus checks by election day?
We are getting ready for a boom in our business..our overseas business..in China....we sell TO China American products..and as Obama policys of spending and printing are driving us away, killing off the rest of the jobs here and the currency...it makes my product appear cheaper in China...and I make more...more that will never see the US shores..so you can't steal 60-70%...
yeah..I say give the democratic members in Congress the next Nobel Peace Price...it makes perfect sense now.
Posted by YourJomamma at 10/10/2009 @ 1:15pm
"Well, I see Jomomma has a bit more free time now that the economy is in the toilet."
all he has is free time. and yet he mocks everyone else for being lazy.
that i find pretty amazing.
the other think he doesn't realize is that liberals aren't the only ones opposed to limbaugh's purchase of a football team: numerous black NFL players have said publicly that they would not play for limbaugh should he buy it....
Posted by darladoon at 10/10/2009 @ 1:49pm
"yes the economy is in the toilet...and it is getting worse...and I am sure you see the stimulus bill working creating all those new green union jobs!!!!!!!!!! Thousands lining up for green jobs in Detroit created by the stimulus? Nope...checks created by others who worked for it, earned it..or printed it from govt...any guess how many weeks that $3,000 will last?.1,2..and then? right...same with all govt "stimulus..stimulus runs out when govt checks stop...any guess if we will more stimulus checks by election day?"
before you go on and on with your bullshit, maasch, i suggest you research where that stimulus went for your state.
what's the unemployment rate in colorado? why did your own governor (!) accept stimulus money if it was sooooooo unhelpful? huh? can you answer that? or are you just going to continue your gasbaggery?
Posted by darladoon at 10/10/2009 @ 1:57pm
You know what 2 sentence I didn't mind good lecturers in college so why should I dislike a good orator now? You were enamored with"the actor" because he said what you wanted to hear. Yoma what are you talking about? Instead of taxing the public for 21st century nation building we borrowed. Guess what the country with the resources to buy our bonds is Walmart's favorite supplier Red China. All I read from conservatives is how China is really showing good capitalist tendencies. Wouldn't you money is pouring in from every direction you look. Your population allows you to pay nothing wages. Now you can be the exploiter of Sub Sahara Africa and South America. You have conservatives and their love of the free trade multinationals. What is it doing to help America? Look around 10+% unemployment,the foreclosure mess, and the health care mess. Yoma what do you sell cheaper than China can make "clean air".
Posted by whatozz at 10/10/2009 @ 2:03pm
all he has is free time. and yet he mocks everyone else for being lazy.
that i find pretty amazing.
the other think he doesn't realize is that liberals aren't the only ones opposed to limbaugh's purchase of a football team: numerous black NFL players have said publicly that they would not play for limbaugh should he buy it....
Posted by darladoon at 10/10/2009 @ 1:49pm
So what?
It will make an intersting NFL....my guess is 99.9% of the black players voted for Obama and are liberal, as are 99.9 % of the black population...
Afterall, the NFL is a union shop ....NO?
Illegal work stoppages and voided contracts? Its about the money Daraloon...the money...we will see who wants to forfeit a multi million dollar deals to carry footballs....besides..if one really listens to Limabugh over a few week period one will find he is many things, but a racist is not one of them...and not every black or white ball player believes he is a racists..remember, a team is about 50 guys..I think there might be 50 black and white players who are willing to play on an NFL team...the term racists has been denutered by the libs over the years to mean one who disagrees with a person other than white skinned.
I do mock lazy people, and you are in no position to judge what I do with my free time, if it is indeed free, I have accomplished more in the waiting room of an airport than many do in a week of working for ACORN...its productivity that counts Darlaloon, productivity...
it what one DOES with the time was has...
something you and most loons will never understand.
Posted by YourJomamma at 10/10/2009 @ 2:06pm
what's the unemployment rate in colorado? why did your own governor (!) accept stimulus money if it was sooooooo unhelpful? huh? can you answer that? or are you just going to continue your gasbaggery?
Posted by darladoon at 10/10/2009 @ 1:57pm
Because the state was spending more than it takes in...
Colorado lost Billions in oil revenues, and a large number of union poil rig jobs, as well as huge tax revenues , which are a large portion of our state earnings, when it imposed enviromental restrictions..the companies moved to Utah, Wyoming and Dakotas...and took the cash, jobs and benefits with them.
Colorado unemployment rate was lower than most, around 7%...it was low until we began to turn from red to purple..we may go back to red next time around.
Posted by YourJomamma at 10/10/2009 @ 2:15pm
ah, the humanitease....
thanks, for the link srj.
thanks, rio.
Posted by frosty zoom at 10/10/2009 @ 2:28pm
why did your own governor (!) accept stimulus money if it was sooooooo unhelpful? huh? can you answer that? or are you just going to continue your gasbaggery?
Posted by darladoon at 10/10/2009 @ 1:57pm | ignore this person | warn this person
He's a Democrat..all Democrats accept other peoples money. It's in hteir DNA and it is who they are.
Posted by YourJomamma at 10/10/2009 @ 2:29pm
" Instead of taxing the public for 21st century nation building we borrowed. "...
To an extent I agree...we taxed almost $1.5 trillion and spent $2 trillion..and now $3 trillion...every year
we aren't taxed too little, we spend too much...
Posted by YourJomamma at 10/10/2009 @ 2:32pm
"if one really listens to Limabugh over a few week period one will find he is many things, but a racist is not one of them"
(quote of the day)
of course (!), the black NFL players who wouldn't play for limbaugh are just LIBERALS! of course! that's a brilliant response, maasch!
maasch, colorado is in trouble, and needs money, and every single governor took stimulus money....sign of the times, thanks to your man, bush.
Posted by darladoon at 10/10/2009 @ 2:42pm
Posted by YourJomamma at 10/10/2009 @ 1:15pm
"Yeah, that must be it...not the fact that I have to leave on Sunday to get to NY and work longer harder and smarter in order to just maintain...and keep my shrinking profits away from guys like you..."
If you are working as smartly as you post, I bet you work long hours indeed. Yet, you still manage to squeeze in time to post like you have Tourette syndrome. Also, it's funny since you know I pay a six figure tax bill, so your complaining about my taking your taxes after your support for Iraq pretty much leaves you without a leg to stand on. If anyone was held up, it was me - paying for the guns and bombs that you wanted.
Also interesting that you don't seem to be complaining about the bills giving money hand over fist to the banks. With you, its always complaining about the little guy.
"We are getting ready for a boom in our business..our overseas business..in China....we sell TO China American products..and as Obama policys of spending and printing are driving us away, killing off the rest of the jobs here and the currency...it makes my product appear cheaper in China...and I make more...more that will never see the US shores..so you can't steal 60-70%..."
Well, why don't you go back to your Ayn Rand books and funny party commentary about "Who is John Galt?" then? Why don't you move yourself and your business to China - and enjoy all that freedom and tax free living you'll experience there? All I can say is don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. America doesn't need you and your fuckin' whining.
Posted by srjenkins at 10/10/2009 @ 2:45pm
Does anyone remember Rush on NFL Prime time? I do ,he said Donovan Mcnabb wasn't smart enough to play quarterback for the Eagles. The guys on the show were stunned, as was ESPN. Rush wasn't back the next week. Rush said recently that school buses should be segregated. Don't worry people have not forgotten about his racial views. He is a disgrace but a lightning rod and example for Glenny. On taxesfor the wealthy,you mean to say a higher tax on people after they make $3 million annually would be a" hardship". How much are we spending on "nation building" annually? How can we spend multi- billions of dollars killing and maiming people but saying no to health care for our citizenry? How and who is going to pay for our "war" borrowing. Our children or is it our grandchildren. Yourjomam since you are proud of the taxes you pay,do you get an interest payment statement with them. That is what you supported and it sounds like you are off-shoring other income. I think you probably do work hard are you the only one who posts here that does. The gay marriage b.s. can go. The women's lib stuff can go. You are another smirker.
Posted by whatozz at 10/10/2009 @ 4:44pm
"Does anyone remember Rush on NFL Prime time? I do ,he said Donovan Mcnabb wasn't smart enough to play quarterback for the Eagles. The guys on the show were stunned, as was ESPN." Posted by whatozz at 10/10/2009 @ 4:44pm
LIAR, LIAR, plants for hire. He said that McNabb was getting great press because the mainstream media was eager for a successful African American QB.
Posted by twillie at 10/10/2009 @ 9:55pm
"LIAR, LIAR, plants for hire. He said that McNabb was getting great press because the mainstream media was eager for a successful African American QB."
you're right, twillie, but it sounded pretty bad:
""I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. There is a little hope invested in McNabb, and he got a lot of credit for the performance of this team that he didn't deserve."
Posted by darladoon at 10/10/2009 @ 11:52pm
Posted by srjenkins at 10/10/2009 @ 2:45pm
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Posted by frosty zoom at 10/11/2009 @ 02:04am
thanks to your man, bush.
Posted by darladoon at 10/10/2009 @ 2:42pm
actually,
this collapse has been building for a long time.
mr. gore would have kept greenspan on and the bubble would have pumped just as big.
mr. bush just flushed, that's all.
Posted by frosty zoom at 10/11/2009 @ 02:08am
I love the scooby doo comment thrawn. Didn't even think about it.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 10/11/2009 @ 10:43am
"...when you blindly follow one leader who proclaims himself to be conservative rather than sticking to your own principles, there's a problem." - Thrawn
Just finished watching German film about Sophie Scholl, a young anti-Hitler activist executed in 1943. Your statement above pretty much sums it up. Excellent film - can you imagine living your life to the soundtrack of endless radio exhortations by Goebbels? Knowing that the maniacs in charge were totally, murderously insane? In America, it's, like, Divide and Take Their Money. In Nazi Germany it was Divide and Destroy. Phew. end of rant. Try to have a good week, everybody.
Posted by A_Pax_On_Your_Houses at 10/11/2009 @ 11:22am
Twillie and darladoon-Think again about your comments,if you think ESPN threw Rush off the air for the milk toast you stated you two should go sit in the corner. I'm a football fan and watch that show . Every man in America would like to be on that show. Rush made an overtly racist comment and got thrown off the show.Ask Tom Jackson from Prime Time what he thought. It was not his show which allows him to say things like"school buses should be segregated". Now I am just pointing out his track record. He is a popular buffoon with rabble rouser tendencies.He used to rip drug users until he became one .
Posted by whatozz at 10/11/2009 @ 11:54am
Conservatives are conserned for what is best for Americans and America
Posted by YourJomamma at 10/10/2009 @ 11:13am
I'm "concerned" that you have trouble "speeling."
Posted by kennyboy at 10/11/2009 @ 12:17pm
All I can say is don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. America doesn't need you and your fuckin' whining.
Posted by srjenkins at 10/10/2009 @ 2:45pm
you've been pretty cranky on here lately; what's happened to you?
Posted by antisocialist at 10/11/2009 @ 1:20pm
Conservatives are conserned for what is best for Americans and America
Posted by YourJomamma at 10/10/2009 @ 11:13am
I'm "concerned" that you have trouble "speeling."
Posted by kennyboy at 10/11/2009 @ 12:17pm
Fair point...I can't type either.
I am a victim of public education.
Posted by YourJomamma at 10/11/2009 @ 3:42pm
All I can say is don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. America doesn't need you and your fuckin' whining.
Posted by srjenkins at 10/10/2009 @ 2:45pm
you've been pretty cranky on here lately; what's happened to you?
Posted by antisocialist at 10/11/2009 @ 1:20pm
He found out his taxes are going up and business going down.
Posted by YourJomamma at 10/11/2009 @ 3:43pm
YJ-Are you Tim Pawlenty? He went to public high school and U of M. Now he is a voucher. private school guy. Point to the money.
Posted by whatozz at 10/11/2009 @ 4:44pm
YJ-Are you Tim Pawlenty? He went to public high school and U of M. Now he is a voucher. private school guy. Point to the money.
Posted by whatozz at 10/11/2009 @ 4:44pm
Nope..Public school except college..Marquette University...
Public schools worked when we attended, now they are nothing more than indoctrinating centers for union job presevation and the unions are tools of the Dem Party election machine...
the students?
Trapped and apparently singing songs of praise and sloagans about the policys of the dear leader, even tho they have NO idea what they are...kinda North Korean like...but hey!!!
Diversity.
Posted by YourJomamma at 10/11/2009 @ 4:55pm
I sent my kids to both private and public schools..mostly private.
Posted by YourJomamma at 10/11/2009 @ 5:01pm
check out this maaschian contradiction.
first he said:
"I am a victim of public education"
then he said:
"Public schools worked when we attended"
basically, maasch changes his position whenever the situation calls for it.
Posted by darladoon at 10/11/2009 @ 5:12pm
check out this maaschian contradiction.
first he said:
"I am a victim of public education"
then he said:
"Public schools worked when we attended"
basically, maasch changes his position whenever the situation calls for it.
Posted by darladoon at 10/11/2009 @ 5:12pm
Public schools did work in the past. They focused on the three Rs...and now they don't. They are day care centers combined with meals on wheels in an indoctrination union shop.
I couldn't spell very well then nor do I spell very well now.
Posted by YourJomamma at 10/11/2009 @ 5:20pm
"I couldn't spell very well then nor do I spell very well now"
so then, logically, it follows that public education had nothing to do with your spelling disability, although you claimed to be a "victim of public education."
Posted by darladoon at 10/11/2009 @ 6:02pm
so then, logically, it follows that public education had nothing to do with your spelling disability, although you claimed to be a "victim of public education."
Posted by darladoon at 10/11/2009 @ 6:02pm
no, it means I can't spell very well and public education didn't fix it...I imagine today I'd be writing phoneticly.
Posted by YourJomamma at 10/11/2009 @ 6:11pm
I am a victim of public education.
Posted by YourJomamma 10/11/2009
I thought conservatives didn't play the victim. They pulled themselves up by their boot straps - or at least learned to use a dikshunery.
Posted by kennyboy at 10/11/2009 @ 6:28pm
"public education didn't fix it"
so if public education didn't "fix it," then you were technically a victim of a public education, and therefore you should retract your statement that "public schools worked when we attended."
you can't have it both ways, maasch.
apparently not only were you a victim of public education, you also weren't schooled in the vicissitudes of coherent debate practice.
Posted by darladoon at 10/11/2009 @ 6:32pm
"I thought conservatives didn't play the victim. They pulled themselves up by their boot straps - or at least learned to use a dikshunery"
smackdown!!
Posted by darladoon at 10/11/2009 @ 6:32pm
YJ-Tell that to my younger brother ,24 years as a teacher and coach. He is a lot nicer than me ,he would just shake his head at you.He lives in a very affluent area of Twin Cities(attorney wife), the problem is the parents . Plenty of divorces and mom and dad just don't have the time for their kids. It is not political it is familial.Quit the posturing and the B.S. Private schools are about the money and the contacts.
Posted by whatozz at 10/11/2009 @ 6:49pm
I am a victim of public education.
Posted by YourJomamma 10/11/2009
I thought conservatives didn't play the victim. They pulled themselves up by their boot straps - or at least learned to use a dikshunery.
Posted by kennyboy at 10/11/2009 @ 6:28pm
I am really not a vicitm..I use "the phrase" to tweek the nose of those who go after spelling and not the subject..as you should know...
My spelling issue has not held me back..nothing will...I succeed because I will. And I am smart enough to appreciate spell check..I wish I could use it here...
Posted by YourJomamma at 10/11/2009 @ 6:55pm
Posted by whatozz at 10/11/2009 @ 6:49pm
I do agree here whole heartedly..it is about parents....(communitys where 80% plus out of wedlock "familys" have no parents or understanding that it is more than dropping off in AM and picking up atPM that matters, and that Govt IS NOT a substitute for parents)..and not all about the money, yet you claim the private schools are about money....they get by with a lot less than the public system...and the public system and the unions ARE about money...
I also spent from 6th grade to High School in a very affluent area of the Twin Cities...Hopkins/Edina. My family attends Wayzata schools..
And education was an imperative...my parents, before buying a house, investigated and found out where the best schools were and then bought a house in that district. And our schools did work despite my spelling problems..math and science was my strength, and the teachers played to it...I remember fondly and respectfully a handfull of teachers who made their mark upon me and I am grateful...and union horse shit, strikes, or political indoctrination were NOT the order of the day.
education was the order of the day, the teachers had the pride in their work and it was reflected in the acheivements of their sdtudents...entering the next level with the skills neccessary was...unlike today.
And thats why private school is worth the investment...in some years each of us parents wrote out another check and handed it to the teachers directly.
Posted by YourJomamma at 10/11/2009 @ 7:07pm
I take issue with the indoctrination comment. Where do you get off using it? How do you come up with it? You went to college ,did you actually sit in your classes and think about this professor was a liberal and this one was a conservative. You should meet my son,22 years old getting a double major and working to be a teacher and coach like my brother. Tell him that he is just going to be another liberal teacher. We as a country need more people like my son. People that care about others not because of political philosophy but simply care. You do not come across like that ,that's too bad.
Posted by whatozz at 10/11/2009 @ 7:13pm
.I use "the phrase" to tweek the nose of those who go after spelling and not the subject..as you should know... Posted by YourJomamma at 10/11/2009 @ 6:55pm | ignore this person | warn this person
"Spell check" can also by done by using a rather widely known book published by a guy named Webster, as I noted previously. As for the subject, lately - well, forever - yours has been the coming gloom and doom brought on by "loons" who oppose deep-dish tax breaks to huge enterprises who then use the money saved to pay themselves fat bonuses. And, as always, you complain about your own taxes, though, according to your own pronouncements here, said public grab doesn't seem to be hitting your wallet too hard, that's if you actually possess the wallet of which you speak.
As for the matter at hand, the morning joes and pigboy rushbos can pound away at each other all they like until they form pungent piles of steaming human flesh unable to land on the less fortunate whose own flesh may happen to have the wrong pigmentation...
"In this corner, wearing the powder blue Oxycontin trunks and weighing in at 950 pounds, the one and only heroin hillbilly...."
Posted by kennyboy at 10/11/2009 @ 7:27pm
Kenny-You missed something,you and I comment because we care about issues and where we feel the country is going. Joe,Rush,and Ed Schultz get paid to comment and get the public riled up.
Posted by whatozz at 10/11/2009 @ 8:03pm
YourJomamma:
That would be 'phonetically' if you want to go that direction.
Or... fonetikalee... if you want to go the other direction.
I have a Mac which automatically spell checks these blog posts.
It ain't pretty. And it doesn't seem to like the word 'ain't'. ;-)
Posted by ficheye at 10/11/2009 @ 8:05pm
We as a country need more people like my son. People that care about others not because of political philosophy but simply care. You do not come across like that ,that's too bad.
Posted by whatozz at 10/11/2009 @ 7:13pm
Then I salute your son...he is the exception .
Posted by YourJomamma at 10/11/2009 @ 9:09pm
It ain't pretty. And it doesn't seem to like the word 'ain't'. ;-)
Posted by ficheye at 10/11/2009 @ 8:05pm
I have a Sony Vaio at 3 lbs...My company paid $1000 a pound for it and Windows, (XP Pro) constanlty has patches...frustrating..
I am not familiar with spell check for the blog window..as I asked Denise on another thread, do I have to post to a Word doc, spell check, and then cut and paste into the blog window? Seems cumbersome.
I am considering a Apple laptop..How do you like Apple? " I love the iphone..got it when it first came out. I find it works great but AT&T is the problem.
Posted by YourJomamma at 10/11/2009 @ 9:17pm
Posted by antisocialist at 10/11/2009 @ 1:20pm
In short, there are three ways to deal with people being a jackass. One, you ignore them. Two, you reason with them. Three, you engage them as a jackass yourself, preferably in a way that signals you are prepared to take it much farther than they would like.
I've tried one and two. I had thought I'd give the third option a try for awhile. I didn't think it would be more effective, but it certainly has made more of an impression.
Now, I've been moving more to the ignore direction. I have almost reached triple digits on my ignore list, and I come to the site much less. I think I'm going to put my threshold high enough that you will also be included.
I'll give that a try for awhile and see if that makes this site any more enjoyable.
Posted by srjenkins at 10/11/2009 @ 11:43pm
I have almost reached triple digits on my ignore list, and I come to the site much less....I'll give that a try for awhile and see if that makes this site any more enjoyable.
Posted by srjenkins at 10/11/2009 @ 11:43pm
LOL! I'm thinking.....I thought I've a long list....certainly in the few dozens...but I hope it's not yet close to triple digits. Anyhow, having pre-screened(ie, invited partiers) DO make for more "enjoyable" and efficient visits!
Posted by Happy at 10/11/2009 @ 11:56pm
I feel sorry for both of you ,if you don't like a post comment why. To be an ostrich just helps the discourse get murkier.
Posted by whatozz at 10/12/2009 @ 04:48am
There's an internecine war building among Republicans.
2010 and the inevitable pick-up of some seats in Congress by the GOP will dampen it for a while, but it will come roaring back in the 2012 Primaries.
One faction will win the nomination...and likely lose the election.
If the Hard Right gets their nominee....then the Moderates will claim that 2006, 2008, and 2012 were the fault of "hard liners" and "out-of-touch with the mainstream of America" "Glenn Beck fan" types and pull it back to the Center-Right for 2014 and 2016. And the base will have to "go along to get along" like they did in the pre-Reagan Era.
If the Moderates win the nomination and lose...the Base will scream "See? See? We need a REAL conservative in 2016, no more 'RINOs' and 'McCains'!"...
and the GOP will go the way of the Whigs as they nominate some Neandeerthal who'll promise "First day in office...I'll ban abortion and put 100,000 troops on the Rio Grande!!!"
Posted by Mask at 10/12/2009 @ 07:26am
A better match up would be between the twin assholes Rush and Keith, or Ann vs Rachel.
When Americans stop listening to them we'll ALL be better off. None make any sense, none know anything but their own narrow minded views, all are dangerous to the maintenance of an intelligent, free society.
Posted by CHIP THORNTON at 10/12/2009 @ 07:38am
Hip,hip,hooray
Posted by whatozz at 10/12/2009 @ 08:14am
Posted by whatozz at 10/12/2009 @ 04:48am
"I feel sorry for both of you ,if you don't like a post comment why. To be an ostrich just helps the discourse get murkier."
You should get familiar with the abbreviation DNFTT. If everyone ignored, i.e., "didn't feed", the trolls around here, they'd go away - which would help the discourse immensely.
In operant conditioning terms, this would be called giving "no response", and it is the absolute best way to cut down on undesirable behavior. Unfortunately, there are folks, like yourself, that don't understand this, who feel it it their duty to comment, encouraging them and by doing so make the conversation get murkier - even though they intend the opposite.
Given this fact and an effective system for filtering them out, it makes little difference what I do. So, I do what pleases me. Some days that means ignoring, some days reasoning, and some days I'm a troll myself.
Posted by srjenkins at 10/12/2009 @ 09:10am
Posted by CHIP THORNTON at 10/12/2009 @ 07:38am
I'm sorry...you think Rachel Maddow is "equivalent" to Ann Coulter?!?!??!?
Posted by Mask at 10/12/2009 @ 09:58am
chip,
there is simply no comparison btw coulter and maddow. one is a cool-headed intellectual, the other a hot-headed evil cunt.
Posted by darladoon at 10/12/2009 @ 10:59am
chip,
there is simply no comparison btw coulter and maddow. one is a cool-headed intellectual, the other a hot-headed evil cunt.
Posted by darladoon at 10/12/2009 @ 10:59am
Class.
Education on display.......you make the call.
Posted by YourJomamma at 10/12/2009 @ 11:05am
BTW, Maasch-
"I believe the left lives in pants shitting fear of Limbaugh since he constantly pulls their pants down publicly and exposes the fraud and horseshit of the left..."----Posted by YourJomamma at 10/10/2009 @ 11:18am
How is it a "sporadic" listener knows what Rush does "constantly"!??!?!!??
heheh
Posted by Mask at 10/12/2009 @ 11:26am
Yes, Mask, she is the "equivilant" in that she fills her show with ridicule of her opponents, sarcasm and snide comments of those who do not agree with her, and speaks in half truths peppered with facts designed to manipulate the viewer to one point only. She tows her line (As does Coulter-hence the comparison-but you knew what I meant, didn't you, you old agitator, you.)
She's not as bad as Olbermann, as she demonstrated while on Meet the Press (ie a real newscast)She kind of grew up there.
PLUS both of 'em are hotties!
Posted by CHIP THORNTON at 10/12/2009 @ 11:39am
Darla, calling Rachel a cunt is not going to help this discourse, and is kind of crass.
Don't you think?
Posted by CHIP THORNTON at 10/12/2009 @ 11:48am
How is it a "sporadic" listener knows what Rush does "constantly"!??!?!!??
heheh
Posted by Mask at 10/12/2009 @ 11:26am
People who don't listen to Rush know this....
Posted by YourJomamma at 10/12/2009 @ 12:05pm
chip,
coulter is the evil cunt, not rachel. coulter is so vicious, so evil, that "evil cunt" doesn't really go far enough.
and i think mature, reasonable women like myself know that full well.
maddow, on the other hand, is pure class.
Posted by darladoon at 10/12/2009 @ 12:36pm
You're not too astute, are you? I knew what you meant, it was a joke, aas is Maddow.
Trouble is, she's smart, will go far when she stops acting like a female Keith Olbermann.
Posted by CHIP THORNTON at 10/12/2009 @ 1:22pm
Posted by YourJomamma at 10/12/2009 @ 12:05pm
Just odd, Maasch...you spent a LOT of time defending someone you "never listen to, or if I do sporadically".
LOL
Posted by Mask at 10/12/2009 @ 1:24pm
"I knew what you meant, it was a joke, aas is Maddow."
jokes are supposed to be funny, chip.
if maddow is such a joke, then how did she earn a rhodes scholarship?
Posted by darladoon at 10/12/2009 @ 1:33pm
Just odd, Maasch...you spent a LOT of time defending someone you "never listen to, or if I do sporadically".
LOL
Posted by Mask at 10/12/2009 @ 1:24pm
Whats odd is your thinking Im defending Rush, a person I do NOT listen to...
I am defending the fact that I have my own beliefs and they do NOT come from Rush monologues as you claim...I think Rush might be listening to me...
That is the defense...I don't care what Rush says..I care about my beliefs and if Rush agrees with me great...
Posted by YourJomamma at 10/12/2009 @ 1:34pm
Degrees do not an intelligent person make, Darla. They only show that you can be taught something, that you can start something and finish it. Thats important, but the life experiences after college, as I've well learned, make one much more sensible. When Rachel learns her REAL future lies outside the left/right fringes, which is where she is now, that will be a smart move, and it won't take a degree for her to realize it.
Posted by CHIP THORNTON at 10/12/2009 @ 1:43pm
chip,
newsflash: the rhodes scholarship is not a degree.
Posted by darladoon at 10/12/2009 @ 1:52pm
"Whats odd is your thinking Im defending Rush, a person I do NOT listen to..."------Posted by YourJomamma at 10/12/2009 @ 1:34pm
John, can you settle on ONE qualifier?
Is it "never listen to" or "sporadically/once or twice a month listen to"?!?!?!?
Posted by Mask at 10/12/2009 @ 1:55pm
I take issue with the indoctrination comment. Where do you get off using it? How do you come up with it? You went to college ,did you actually sit in your classes and think about this professor was a liberal and this one was a conservative. You should meet my son,22 years old getting a double major and working to be a teacher and coach like my brother. Tell him that he is just going to be another liberal teacher. We as a country need more people like my son. People that care about others not because of political philosophy but simply care. You do not come across like that ,that's too bad.
Posted by whatozz at 10/11/2009 @ 7:13pm
I began judging whether my teachers were liberal or conservative by the 10th grade. It wasn't very difficult in most cases. And where there was some ambiguity, I asked them directly. If they were not forthright, I asked them leading questions to get their position on issues.
Fortunately, I was raised in one of the most conservative counties (at the time in the nation). But there were still some libs in the school teaching system.
Posted by antisocialist at 10/12/2009 @ 2:04pm
Now, I've been moving more to the ignore direction. I have almost reached triple digits on my ignore list, and I come to the site much less. I think I'm going to put my threshold high enough that you will also be included.
I'll give that a try for awhile and see if that makes this site any more enjoyable.
Posted by srjenkins at 10/11/2009 @ 11:43pm
Sorry to hear that SRJ. I only have 7 people on my ignore and they are either total racists, or post nothing but lengthy conspiracy theories.
Posted by antisocialist at 10/12/2009 @ 2:07pm
and the GOP will go the way of the Whigs as they nominate some Neandeerthal who'll promise "First day in office...I'll ban abortion and put 100,000 troops on the Rio Grande!!!"
Posted by Mask at 10/12/2009 @ 07:26am |
Another keeper. Sounds just like the leftists who proclaimed the GOP dead in '65, in '76, and in '96. Wrong each time.
Posted by antisocialist at 10/12/2009 @ 2:14pm
maddow, on the other hand, is pure class.
Posted by darladoon at 10/12/2009 @ 12:36pm
Maddow is nothing but a snobbish, far left dyke. Perhaps that's why her ratings remain at or near the bottom each month.
Posted by antisocialist at 10/12/2009 @ 2:16pm
"Maddow is nothing but a snobbish, far left dyke. Perhaps that's why her ratings remain at or near the bottom each month"
so, according to antisocialist, the higher your ratings, the more intelligent/persuasive/interesting you are?
according to that logic, then, brittany spears is all three.
Posted by darladoon at 10/12/2009 @ 2:25pm
John, can you settle on ONE qualifier?
Is it "never listen to" or "sporadically/once or twice a month listen to"?!?!?!?
Posted by Mask at 10/12/2009 @ 1:55pm
Fair enough...I should clarify..I am not a ditto head who listens each and every day. I listen to Rush once or rwice a month by accident and then never coplpete an hour, but many months never hear him at all. I haven't heard a 3 hour show in 5 years...
You decide...since it seems you already have me pegged as a Rush defender...
I think Rush is a YOUR JOMAMMA defender...
Posted by YourJomamma at 10/12/2009 @ 2:48pm
so, according to antisocialist, the higher your ratings, the more intelligent/persuasive/interesting you are?
according to that logic, then, brittany spears is all three.
Posted by darladoon at 10/12/2009 @ 2:25pm
Bizarre conclusion on your part. I mentioned nothing about intellect. And I find Maddow neither interesting or persuasive.
She's simply just another far left radical with a small viewing audience.
Posted by antisocialist at 10/12/2009 @ 2:49pm
"I listen to Rush once or rwice a month by accident...."----Posted by YourJomamma at 10/12/2009 @ 2:48pm
"By accident"??? Your car hits a bump in the road and it switches from Classic Rock on FM to the AM band?
LOL
Posted by Mask at 10/12/2009 @ 3:14pm
"And I find Maddow neither interesting or persuasive."---Posted by antisocialist at 10/12/2009 @ 2:49pm
Larry, how is it you don't watch Fox News, but you DO catch Rachel Maddow on MSNBC?
Posted by Mask at 10/12/2009 @ 3:24pm
"I listen to Rush once or rwice a month by accident...."----Posted by YourJomamma at 10/12/2009 @ 2:48pm
"By accident"??? Your car hits a bump in the road and it switches from Classic Rock on FM to the AM band?
LOL
Posted by Mask at 10/12/2009 @ 3:14pm
I used to travel by car..I no longer do.
Posted by YourJomamma at 10/12/2009 @ 3:28pm
Larry, how is it you don't watch Fox News, but you DO catch Rachel Maddow on MSNBC?
Posted by Mask at 10/12/2009 @ 3:24pm
I USED to see Maddow on MSNBC because for a few years, I was watching MSNBC to monitor what that segment of the left had to say.
But I recently decided it was just too much nonsense and I have discontinued even receiving the station on my satellite dish.
She is however on programs like Meet the Press.
Most of my news viewing these days on television comes from the Chinese network (CCTV), CNN, Free Speech TV, and Link TV.
Posted by antisocialist at 10/12/2009 @ 3:33pm
Here's my first post into the meat-grinder that these comments remind me of:
To be blunt, Beck will overtake both Limbaugh and Hannity in both popularity and ratings points. Not that this surprises me, since you give some folks a man on a horse, and they'll walk right behind it...stepping in horseshit and calling it Chanel No.5 along the way.
I did attend public schools, and did rather well. When you live in the Central San Joaquin Valley, you find that both the schools and their students are much different than your "typical" public school.
A lot of folks blame the teachers for what is wrong in our school systems. True, there are some who never should have been credentialed in the first place.
However, it's the "blame teachers first" mentality that has driven many fine teachers into other professions...much to the detriment of our national education system. And those who squalk the loudest about "inferior teachers" would probably, if challenged, decline to take up the job themselves.
And so, the cycle continues.
Until we stop treating our schools as a "government-run baby-sitting service,"and start caring about how their little Junior and/or Precious can totally maximise their learning experience during those twelve years? We will be the much worse off for it!
And until we stop glorifying "tax fighting" and look at what damage has been done by "Saint Howie" Javis and his true believers/ Then the axiom of "You get what you pay for" will apply to our kid's education.
If Public Education is so "expensive"? Try public ignorance and apathy...which are much harder to correct.
Good Day!
--RKJ
Posted by left coast nightbird at 10/12/2009 @ 5:17pm
Santi you are so full of it makes me wonder. You are like Alex P. Keaton, the conservative way or the highway. I remember teachers in high school in a much different way. Were they interesting ,did they inspire you to read for example. But perhaps you are like my oldest son who always tells me everything is political. Rachel Maddow is a lesbian,that's a fact. Unfortunately for you she is on the other side. She is intelligent,does her research and normally beats up the conservatives she debates. Simply because she is better prepared and looks at 4 or 5 angles of a question or situation. You are a homophobe and refuse to acknowledge that she is a thinker. I am glad you are watchiong Chinese T.V.,you will be able to warn us they are cutting off our credit.
Posted by whatozz at 10/12/2009 @ 5:21pm
Santi you are so full of it makes me wonder. You are like Alex P. Keaton, the conservative way or the highway. I remember teachers in high school in a much different way. Were they interesting ,did they inspire you to read for example. But perhaps you are like my oldest son who always tells me everything is political. Rachel Maddow is a lesbian,that's a fact. Unfortunately for you she is on the other side. She is intelligent,does her research and normally beats up the conservatives she debates. Simply because she is better prepared and looks at 4 or 5 angles of a question or situation. You are a homophobe and refuse to acknowledge that she is a thinker. I am glad you are watchiong Chinese T.V.,you will be able to warn us they are cutting off our credit.
Posted by whatozz at 10/12/2009 @ 5:21pm
I've been involved in politics since I was 10 years old. How many 10 year olds do you know who start their day with the editorial page of the Newspaper? That was how passionate I was even then.
Posted by antisocialist at 10/12/2009 @ 6:16pm
Twillie and darladoon-Think again about your comments,if you think ESPN threw Rush off the air for the milk toast you stated you two should go sit in the corner. I'm a football fan and watch that show . Every man in America would like to be on that show. Rush made an overtly racist comment and got thrown off the show.Ask Tom Jackson from Prime Time what he thought. . Posted by whatozz at 10/11/2009 @ 11:54am
Oh, OK......... I've thought about it. And ESPN did throw him off the air for that comment. And , Tom Jackson had nothing to say at the time. And, I have no idea what he thought. Why not enlighten us? But, I think Rush "resigned", rather than apologize for slamming the MSM.
So, surely you can quote the "overtly racist remark" he made, right?...
No, didn't think so.
Posted by twillie at 10/12/2009 @ 9:35pm
Santi-that makes you atypical,shrug. IO was typical I read the sports. It wasn't political then. Twillie do you know what tone is? To paraphrase it Rush said"the media wants Donovan to be a superstar because he's black. He's not the reason they are winning,they are winning because of the defense not him." It was not the words, it was the way it was said. It was an ESPN experiment with the "hot" radio guy who was used to saying anything he wanted to on his show. It was the smirk and the way he looked at the 2 former All Pros that did it. It is inconsequential to you and that is fine. I suppose his latest comment that student buses should be segregated is o.k. also? That's an old states rights issue ,you have some supporters here.
Posted by whatozz at 10/13/2009 @ 4:52pm
Posted by whatozz at 10/13/2009 @ 4:52pm
Ihaven't heard his school bus quote. Why don't you put it here IN CONTEXT. There are a whole lot of people who listen to him just to find a quote that can be taken out of context to make him out to be the boogeyman. He even baits them.
so, I think the school bus quote is one of those. Prove me wrong.
As for the "smirk" and the "way it was said"; well, that may be just you who's the hater, huh?
Posted by twillie at 10/13/2009 @ 7:03pm
Joe might as well face it! Rush has become the face of the current Republican Party mean-spirited, nasty, vicious and corrupt to the core! There is no room in the party for sane people like Joe anymore. If the sane ones stay they prostitute every principle they have to remain Republican. They get shoved out by the bullies like Rush. Rush represents all that most of us has grown to loathe and detest in the Republican party! They are no longer the party I used to vote for back in the 70's. They have been taken over by some vile force there are no words for. When Reagan invited this element into the party he assured it's eventual doom!
Posted by ganddw42 at 10/14/2009 @ 08:21am