For all the sordid and developing details of Eliot Spitzer's rendezvous with a high-priced prostitute, go to TPM's excerpt of the actual prosecutor filings on Temeka Rachelle Lewis, "Kristen" and "Client-9." As I write, it's unclear if Spitzer will resign, but it seems unlikely that he has the political capital neccesary to gut this one out.

His chances of staying in office, however, would vanish if prosecutors charged him under the 1910 Mann Act--known at the time as the White-Slave Taffic Act. Passed at the end of the Progressive era during the height of a moral panic over alleged "white slavery"--the Mann Act banned the interstate transport of women for "immoral purposes." It's survived numerous court challenges and modifications by Congress over the years, but it's still on the books. Spitzer arranged for the prostitute's Amtrak ticket from New York to Washington (and her hotel room), so he could be subject to federal felony charges under the present day incarnation of the Mann Act. Indeed, the four defendants charged last week in the sting that swept up Spitzer were charged under the act.

One of the crowning accomplishments of 19th-century moral crusaders (along with the Comstock Act of 1873), the history of the Mann Act is drenched with racism and political intrigue--from the fantastic images of Arab harems and Chinese hookers used to sell the bill itself to Jack Johnson, the great black boxer, who was prosecuted under the Mann Act for sending his white girlfriend a train ticket. Johnson served a year in Leavenworth.

It's too soon to know, exactly, what Spitzer did and what criminal charges he faces, if any. But it's certainly clear that the former NY Attorney General's record as a public crusader is on the line. It would be a shame if his tough stances against corporate fraud and other white-collar crimes were forever tarred, but there is a cruel historical irony to all this too. The first Progressive era that birthed the Mann Act combined righteous campaigns against government and business corruption with zealous crusades against vice and immorality.

Until now, Eliot Spitzer represented the former, a present-day incarnation of the Progressive era's best reformers. And now, if only in an uncanny way, he represents the latter too--as one of its victims.

Comments (62)

1. Come on, Mr Kim....don't go squishy apologia for a guy just because he's a Dem and "went after corporate corruption".

   If it was a Republican, even a non-social conservative one, you'd be all over him (or her...let's be fair..heheh).

   Posted by Mask at 03/10/2008 @ 4:45pm

2. When a Republican gets caught cheating on their spouse they immediately are forced to resign their office but when a Democrat is caught cheating on their wife somehow they are allowed to remain in office, and the left wing pundits declare their private life no one elses business. When you disgrace the office you were elected to serve you should resign immediately, irregardless of whether or not you are a Republican, Democrat, or Independent. When we continue to make excuses for the character problems our elected officials have and allow them to remain in office we dumb down morality further and further. Some day, a politician will get caught embezzling money or even for murder but if the economy is doing well, and the trains are running on time voters will excuse their "moral lapse." It's long past the time we set and MAINTAIN higher standards for those we put in power.

   Posted by mjkoch at 03/10/2008 @ 4:48pm

3. Whoa, hold the victim spin, please.

   This guy KNEW exactly what he was doing. And when, according to the NYTimes, he walked out of his press "conference," having merely read a short a statement, taking no Qs, he slammed the door on the assembled 100+ journos.

   Victim? No. Talented as hell, hubristic as hell. Spoiled narcissistic rich kid, above the norms that apply to all us little people. He has sabotaged the progressive cause that he has served rather poorly this past year. And it seems he is loath to surrender a single bit of his privileges, including his superdelegate vote pledged for Billary.

   And now he may well face federal Mann Act charges. Who's the victim? Please, he's no neophyte, no innocent, no undereducated struggling deprived member of the underclass struggling to hold his own.

   Pity for his wife, greater pity for his 3 daughters. But no pity for him.

   What a trio, he & Billary.

   Posted by sloper at 03/10/2008 @ 4:57pm

4. Posted by MJKOCH 03/10/2008 @ 4:48pm

   Half the republicans in Congress would need to resign or should have resigned at some point in the past based on your criteria.

   Posted by BlueTexan at 03/10/2008 @ 4:58pm

5. Well this certainly means he'll never be running for Prez. as many have speculated in the past.

   Posted by BlueTexan at 03/10/2008 @ 4:59pm

6. MJKoch -

   you are forgetting David Vitter, R-LA, still in the senate after similar behavior.

   Posted by scott ruplin at 03/10/2008 @ 5:06pm

7. A year in Leavenworth? Hell, if it was good enough for Jack Johnson, it's good enough for Gov. Spitzer.

   There are a lot of folks in corporate boardrooms breathing a little easier after the news of this day, I can tell you.

   Posted by goyadad at 03/10/2008 @ 5:07pm

8. This is dissapointing. But not that much more dissapointing than his tenure as governor so far. He hasn't been able to do squat. He should have stayed Attorney General, where he was doing good work, and not gone to a prostitute. I don't know the details of this case, but my default position is that prostitutes tend to be exploited in some way, which means Spitzer was aiding in that exploitation. So this strikes me as loads different than someone simply cheating on their spouse. This strikes me as something that it is fully acceptable to talk about in the public domain.

   Posted by dentedpat at 03/10/2008 @ 5:13pm

9. There are a lot of folks in corporate boardrooms breathing a little easier after the news of this day, I can tell you.

   Posted by GOYADAD 03/10/2008 @ 5:07pm

   well, they paid for the sting, after all.......

   heheh.

   Posted by frosty zoom at 03/10/2008 @ 5:15pm

10. Neither Jack Johnson or Spitzer should be prosecuted under the Mann Act. The Mann Act was intended to apply to people who transport women across state lines to make money off them, not to pay them money. The law needs to be reformed. Spitzer should be treated just like any other john that gets caught up in a prostitution sting, and he should resign, as should Larry Craig and David Vitter.

    Posted by Guiles at 03/10/2008 @ 5:21pm

11. Gov. Spitzer's resignation will come soon enough...just as soon as the wife throws him his D-I-V-O-R-C-E papers while she's kicking his sorry tail out of the mansion.... :-0

    Posted by ACook at 03/10/2008 @ 5:24pm

12. David Paterson is a "reluctant supporter" of HRC:

    http://newbrooklynnetwork.typepad.com/brooklyn_ron/2008/02/david-paterso n.html

    Posted by mpeng at 03/10/2008 @ 5:26pm

13. Posted by SCOTT RUPLIN 03/10/2008 @ 5:06pm

    Scott, the 2 incidences are not the same. One was outed by the call girl and the other got STUNG!!!

    Posted by ACook at 03/10/2008 @ 5:30pm

14. The only difference between Democratic sex scandals and the Republican ones is that, as a general rule, Dem guys go for chicks, while the Repubs are gay and/or pedophiles ... EV

    Posted by EnviroVarmint at 03/10/2008 @ 5:42pm

15. For those who commented on my posting....

    David Vitter should have resigned as should have Barney Frank for running a prostitution ring from his Washington apartment. I specifically stated that it did not matter what political party one is affiliated with, if you have no morals you should not be allowed to stay in office and for the person who feels my criteria would mean half of Congress should resign, then so be it. Are we so immune to all that goes on that we do not care anything at all about the character of those we elect to represent us? I could not care less if Spitzer was a far right Republican or a Democratic liberal. The man is a moral cretan and if we have zero standards for the highest office in a State with twenty million people I feel sorry for our nation. We do NOT have to accept the lack of character so many of our elected officials possess. Those who disgrace the office they are elected to they should resign from power, no matter what party they are from. As the late great Senator from New York, Patrick Moynihan said during Bill Clinton's pecadillo's, "we are dumbing down morality in our country and that is bad for all of us." We should not accept or excuse infidelity in those we choose to represent us.

    Posted by mjkoch at 03/10/2008 @ 5:53pm

16. Forget about Spitzer, whatever happens. Can it really be that in this day and age the federal government could possibly prosecute someone for what Spitzer has done? What country do we live in? Oh, I almost forgot. And isn't that the American way??!!

    Posted by wrw5 at 03/10/2008 @ 5:54pm

17. No, no. Giuliani went after corporate crime too, at least Milken, Levine, Boesky, etc. (During that time I was IT freelancing to Drexel Burnham, a contract I very much liked.) Spitzer decided to do the same. Both were known to use whatever they could to get what they wanted. And would have used the Mann Act if they could have. No problem with that. But what Spitzer got caught at went against his own own righteous Dick Tracy image and incredibly stupid. No matter how narrated doesn't change he has nothing now to fall back on and will and should fall.

    That it involved wiretapping a day after The Wire ended, is just wonderful....

    Charlie M.

    Posted by cmsandia at 03/10/2008 @ 6:19pm

18. Spot on again ZERO.

    Prostitution should be legal and regulated.

    If he did what is claimed:

    He is an idiot for calling up a Working Girl

    If he ran on Family Values he is a hypocrite, if he didn't he is just a fool.

    If his family doesn't care, his sexcapades are his business, until he breaks the law.

    He should resign.

    Posted by crabwalk at 03/10/2008 @ 6:21pm

19. Then he, Foley and Cheney should go "hunting"

    Posted by crabwalk at 03/10/2008 @ 6:23pm

20. Oy vey, if Spitzer resigns, we get Paterson, who's a HUGE Billary performing asset. Spitzer was at least somewhat reluctant in his Billary support. Moreover, if Paterson is guv, he would become Billary's No.1 African-American supporter.

    Scylla & Charybdis, what a choice.

    Posted by sloper at 03/10/2008 @ 6:26pm

21. Spitzer just doesn't care about his life, his family, or his career.

    Anybody should know that Bush is wiretapping just about anything, anywhere.

    So Spitzer makes his whoring a Federal case!

    If the bum doesn't resign, throw him out.

    Today.

    Posted by jkrogman at 03/10/2008 @ 6:35pm

22. Good thing we found out about him now. It would be terrible if he were President and behaved that way. But he'd already be in Washington. Where could he go? If it were a multiple choice test, I'd choose Oval Office. If it were a multiple choice test, I'd mark the box that said Self-Destructive, Guilt-Ridden Neurotic.

    But Patterson is a sleeper. He'll be a pretty darned good governor. And won't it be entertaining to have Lieutenant Governor Bruno?

    Posted by JFHill at 03/10/2008 @ 7:21pm

23. Eros, you brute, Why did you torture me so? ... no fleeing your fearful lashes.

    Now I stand ashamed in the marketplace ... ... you sweet wrecker of lives!

    Posted by Sapho at 03/10/2008 @ 7:25pm

24. Jack Johnson, the great black boxer, who was prosecuted under the Mann Act for sending his white girlfriend a train ticket. Johnson served a year in Leavenworth.

    Hypocrisy in law enforcement should be punished severely! No one should have the right to imprison others for engaging the same behavior that they themselves engage in.

    If Leavenworth was good enough for Jack Johnson, it should be good enough for Eliott Spitzer until we get some roll back in this moral crusade by law enforcement that pretends that some group of citizens are superior to others.

    The only moral police should be oneself unless there is real harm against others. Spitzer, like most overzealous prosecutors out to make a name for themselves, used his position of authority to boost his own political career at the expense of others. His fall from grace should be an example to all prosecutors to focus on violent and other predators that do real harm in society rather than the "tough on crime" stance that is calculated to enhance the political careers of prosecutors.

    When Spitzer meets some of his fellow inmates in prison that he knows are no harm to society, he should reflect on this political perversion very solemnly and be an advocate for "smart on crime" issues when he is released.

    Posted by Metteyya at 03/10/2008 @ 7:51pm

25. Posted by RIO BRAVO 03/10/2008 @ 7:44pm

    RIO, ALL politicians seem to have problems with sex.

    But given your hyper-partisan "independence"...we know you think nothing of GOP ones, merely "Demoncrat" ones.

    Maybe we finally need to get to the bottom of this...

    What happened, huh? Some city councilman in your hometown who happened to be a Democrat steal your wife or something?

    Posted by Mask at 03/10/2008 @ 8:08pm

26. I wonder if Mr Spitzer ever spent $4300 in one evening on his wife?

    Posted by opeluboy at 03/10/2008 @ 8:15pm

27. While no fan of Spitzer (who, like Mario Cuomo before him, went from being a highly successful Attorney General to a remarkably ineffective Governor), I am sick of the juvenile attitude towards sex that permeates our misguidedly religious "civil society". Whether it is Larry Craig or David Vitters, Bill Clinton or Spitzer, we should not continue to allow the religious idiocy of the right or the left to titilate our media (corporate, MSM, or fringe) into driving people out of office because of private sexual behavior. Grow up, America.

    Posted by dmsteinman at 03/10/2008 @ 8:28pm

28. Posted by DMSTEINMAN 03/10/2008 @ 8:28pm

    Private sexual behavior? There's no such thing when you're in the public eye. Spitzer is a hypocrite period.

    Posted by ACook at 03/10/2008 @ 8:43pm

29. Look, here's where this guy really screwed up.

    First, stick with cheap hookers. You go to a hotel room and pay cash for both the bed and the broad. No records to come back and haunt you.

    Second, any guy who has been in a position of responsibility knows there are plenty of babes who will bang the boss to get ahead. That's the way the game is played. I'm sure he could have found lots of state empolyees looking for a promotion.

    It's not what he did. It's how stupidly he went about it.

    Posted by RAGGEDSTEP at 03/10/2008 @ 8:47pm

30. The only difference between Democratic sex scandals and the Republican ones is that, as a general rule, Dem guys go for chicks, while the Repubs are gay and/or pedophiles ... EV

    Posted by ENVIROVARMINT 03/10/2008 @ 5:42pm

    Really?! You got any facts to back that statement up?

    Posted by ACook at 03/10/2008 @ 8:48pm

31. Posted by RAGGEDSTEP 03/10/2008 @ 8:47pm

    Ragged, are you married? You sound like you've done this before.

    Posted by ACook at 03/10/2008 @ 8:51pm

32. A COOK,of course I'm married. More than once.

    Posted by RAGGEDSTEP at 03/10/2008 @ 9:01pm

33. A COOK,of course I'm married. More than once.

    Posted by RAGGEDSTEP 03/10/2008 @ 9:01pm

    More than once?!?! Wow, I only have one.

    Posted by ACook at 03/10/2008 @ 9:16pm

34. Posted by DMSTEINMAN 03/10/2008 @ 8:28pm

    I don't think "private sexual behavior" is Spitzer's problem....

    the Mann Act is.

    Posted by Mask at 03/10/2008 @ 9:43pm

35. BTW....Posted by EULER 03/10/2008 @ 6:31pm

    More and more thinking, our beloved FRANKIE has returned!

    Posted by Mask at 03/10/2008 @ 9:56pm

36. Democrat or Republican, it doesn't matter. Sounds like it's time for Spitzer to resign . . . and hire a very good law firm specializing in criminal and family law. My heart goes out to his wife and children. Why did she join him at the press conference?

    Also, might be time for the "Honorable" Mr. Craig and Mr. Vitter to resign.

    Posted by NorCal at 03/10/2008 @ 10:08pm

37. Posted by MJKOCH 03/10/2008 @ 5:53pm When we continue to make excuses for the character problems our elected officials have and allow them to remain in office we dumb down morality further and further.

    Don't worry MJKOCH, your morality is so dumb it can't get any dumber. Your vapid grandstanding over a sexual peccadillo instantly identifies you as the typical sort of American moral moron who would in the next breath yawn over the genuinely despicable acts committed every day by politicians--Democratic as well as Republican--which, with the stroke of a clean shiny pen cause untold harm to the lives of real people, even if they don't happen to offend your infantile sensibilities.

    P.S. If you want to do something useful to fight the dumbing down of this society, you could start by learning to spell, you cretin.

    Posted by oisin at 03/10/2008 @ 10:20pm

38. OH me Oh my! Another man being a man, too bad he was such a self-righteous jerk. Just as we should legalize pot, steroids and HGH, we should also legalize prostitution. If boxing is legal, why not pot? If the UFC is legal, why not prostitution? If war is legal, why not sex with gorgeous and not so gorgeous men and women who happen to charge for it? The only problem here, though is that Spitz is a hypocrite just like all the rest. Client 9 will never do time but if you or I were to lie we'd be sitten in a 6 by 9. Legalize it so we can move on with more important things like real crimes committed against us by our government.

    Hi, I'm Lucem ferre LeVan and I support this message.

    Posted by Lucem ferre at 03/10/2008 @ 10:30pm

39. Sex is the biggest industry in the world. It sells everything and we buy it all the time in our music, videos, books, magazines, clothing, perfume, movies, cars and so forth, so why are we so afraid to actually buy the privelage of putting our thing inside the hand, armpit, leggs, breasts, mouth, ass or vagina of another person?

    For an answer just look at the book of Genesis where Adam and Eve, after realizing something was wrong hid their private parts. (Sexual Shame was introduced right there) Rather than feeling guilty for allegedly disobeying God, they hid their nakedness because they were ashamed of their bodies. How sick! No wonder so many are so fu_ _ ed up about sex. GROW UP!

    Posted by Lucem ferre at 03/10/2008 @ 10:38pm

40. Just for fun, go to the site hellonegro.com. it's a great site from a different perspective than most White sponsored and dominated sites. Not better or worse, just coming from a different angle.

    Posted by Lucem ferre at 03/10/2008 @ 10:43pm

41. Get out.

    What a wasted vote.

    Who goes to jail? The women, not the men.

    Posted by tshirttt at 03/11/2008 @ 12:09am

42. Get out.

    What a wasted vote.

    Who goes to jail? The women, not the men.

    Posted by tshirttt at 03/11/2008 @ 12:09am

43. Oh this is why our New York taxes are so high. We're paying our politicians to f*** prostitutes. I'm struggling to pay my rent and this prick is using my money for $20,000 a f***?

    You know what? I shouldn't have to pay my taxes. But I don't make enough money to get away with that so I'd go to jail.

    Poor poor Spitzer. What a pig.

    Posted by tshirttt at 03/11/2008 @ 12:19am

44. Oh this is why our New York taxes are so high. We're paying our politicians to f*** prostitutes. I'm struggling to pay my rent and this prick is using my money for $20,000 a f***?

    You know what? I shouldn't have to pay my taxes. But I don't make enough money to get away with that so I'd go to jail.

    Poor poor Spitzer. What a pig.

    Posted by tshirttt at 03/11/2008 @ 12:19am

45. Posted by RIO BRAVO 03/10/2008 @ 11:39pm

    WOO-HOO!!!

    Up with fags, dead babies and death to america!

    Yours,

    A Demoncrat

    Posted by Malcontent at 03/11/2008 @ 12:27am

46. DIDN'T HE BUST A PROSTITUTION RING ON STATION ISLAND? IF HE DID THAT'S REALLY HUTZPA!!!

    Posted by marbiol at 03/11/2008 @ 12:52am

47. My heart goes out to his wife. What a shameful thing for him to do to her. I think when you honor your wife, parents, children grandparents you honor yourself.

    Posted by Freedom1776 at 03/11/2008 @ 02:03am

48. RE: "The Spitzer Scandal"

    Well, this shows men I emphasize all men are not to be believed. They cheat, get dranked, drugged, smoked, etc. Some of them did quit drugging (Mr. Obama) and drinking (Mr. Bush) just in time to run for office.

    Posted by HelenDAO at 03/11/2008 @ 03:18am

49. After reading the comments here I'm surprised no one said anything along the lines of "What Spitzer did may have been a terrible thing to do to his family, but The Mann Act is a repulsive legacy law which shouldn't exist." Consider Caminetti v. United States (1917) which ruled that extra-marital sex fell within this jurisdiction. That's kind of ridiculous; why not just outlaw extra-marital sex in general?* I understand why we might not want it for prostitution, but if the prostitute passes from a one state that legalized prostitution to another state which did, I don't see the problem yet ... the Mann Act would still apply. This law is WAY too out of date.

    "Oh this is why our New York taxes are so high. We're paying our politicians to f*** prostitutes. I'm struggling to pay my rent and this prick is using my money for $20,000 a f***?" It didn't mention this in the article, did Spitzer claim this as a business expense? That WOULD be bad.

    * I, of course, propose this to make a point, I don't believe this would be a good law at all. (I had a feeling I may actually have to point this out. Sadly.)

    Posted by jdani at 03/11/2008 @ 03:23am

50. Posted by RIO BRAVO 03/10/2008 @ 11:39pm

    moooorrron supports making certain people he is afraid of second class citizens in The Land of the Free, supports killing unborn children in Iraq and afghanistan, along with the already born, thinks the absence of religion is state sponsored, is willing to give up any "freedom" Chimpy asks him to and just generally hates America.

    It is over time for you to move somewhere you will feel more comfortable with your neighbors. I again suggest Iran or Saudi Arabia. Please.

    Posted by crabwalk at 03/11/2008 @ 07:29am

51. Some of them did quit drugging (Mr. Obama) and drinking (Mr. Bush) just in time to run for office.

    Posted by HELENDAO 03/11/2008 @ 03:18am

    uh, Obama stopped long ago, Bush had not had a drop since around age 40.

    First part is correct, we is pigs

    oink

    how about we go in back with a duck, some nice soft rope and a bucket of olive oil?

    Posted by crabwalk at 03/11/2008 @ 07:33am

52. Posted by JDANI 03/11/2008 @ 03:23am

    One would think that the Defense of Marriage Act would have done something like that, but it has defended exactly zero marriages. Instead, it was all about freedom to hate and fear

    Right RIOKORESH?

    Posted by crabwalk at 03/11/2008 @ 07:38am

53. "...absence of religion is state sponsored religion..."

    That is the mindset we deal with.

    Black is orange

    up is purple

    Iraq was an imminent threat

    What two consenting adults do in their home is RIOS business, cuz he is a Finger Fighter For Freedom tha'ts not Free

    Posted by crabwalk at 03/11/2008 @ 07:42am

54. Posted by RIO BRAVO 03/11/2008 @ 12:39am

    Called "sleep", RIO....you might need a bit more.

    Oh, and I still think some "Demoncrat" stole away Mr. BRAVO....which wasn't really "stealing" I'm guessing, since she probably went PRETTY willingly...heheh.

    Posted by Mask at 03/11/2008 @ 09:19am

55. Well, this shows men I emphasize all men are not to be believed.------Posted by HELENDAO 03/11/2008 @ 03:18am

    Speaking of people who were "done wrong"....I think we NOW know why HELEN is such a big Hillary fan!

    Posted by Mask at 03/11/2008 @ 09:21am

56. Those democrats like woman,Republican hmmm.

    Posted by legion at 03/11/2008 @ 09:21am

57. Those democrats like woman,Republican hmmm.

    Posted by legion at 03/11/2008 @ 09:21am

58. Spitzer. Corzine. Cisneros. WJ Clinton. They all have a lot in common.

    Spitzer allegedly paid for a prostitute to meet him in DC. Corzine reportedly forgave a $470,000 mortgage to his mistress, who happened to be the president of a union. Cisneros made payments to his mistress to lied about it to the FBI for which he was convicted and then pardoned by President Clinton. WJ Clinton got caught numerous times and settled with Paula Jone more than $800,000.

    In addition, they're all strong and active supporters of HRC.

    Posted by T. Paine at 03/11/2008 @ 09:49am

59. Rio-You already support a party that is pro gay rights and pro abortion,but you're too naive to know that.

    Posted by i'm nobody at 03/11/2008 @ 10:13am

60. Come on, Mr Kim....don't go squishy apologia for a guy just because he's a Dem and "went after corporate corruption".

    If it was a Republican, even a non-social conservative one, you'd be all over him (or her...let's be fair..heheh).

    Posted by MASK 03/10/2008 @ 4:45pm | ignore this person

    Richard Kim on Larry Craig, 8/31/07: "But nothing Craig did--he solicited, but did not have, sex in public--should be illegal. In fact, absent his hypocrisy, nothing he did should be objectionable either."

    Posted by cka2nd at 03/11/2008 @ 12:47pm

61. The lesson here seems to be if you want to hold onto office, start an illegal war, gut the constitution, or stash your wads of ill-gotten cash in your freezer, but don't ever GET CAUGHT in sexual infidelity. Apparenly its worse if its with a paid prostitute than someone in your office. In this case, you've got, say, about 48-96 hours. In the other cases you might very well serve out your term.

    Don't get me wrong. I think spitzer's betrayed his family and undermined some very important work in the state, especially in depressed upstate NY where I live, and maybe he should resign now for the sake of the above. I just wish that we could muster half the moral indignation for crimes against humanity and using public service as an enrichment scheme that we do for this sort of thing.

    I also suspect that the enemies he's made in powerful places are now resulting in the same sort of 'go for the jugular' responses to this scandal that he himself used when going after people on Wall Street as attorney general. Further, what a NY pol termed his "self-righteous, unforgiving nature" certainly makes him more of a hypocrite than your average morally ambigious, compromised politico.

    Great. Now I'll really have an easy time convincing my students to get politically active and eshew cynicism.

    Posted by asflint at 03/11/2008 @ 1:21pm

62. Curious as to what $1,000/hour and up gets you? I've been digging the "girls" pictures out of the archives. I have 28 now. I'll have more later. See:

    http://donwiss.com/EmperorsClub/

    Posted by Don Wiss at 03/11/2008 @ 10:34pm