What Hillary Hasn't Done in Foreign Policy

During the eight years Hillary was First Lady, she didn't deal with terrorism, Osama bin Laden, or Al Qaeda.

She wasn't a decision-maker on any of the other big foreign policy issues of her husband's presidency: whether to send troops to Bosnia or Kosovo, whether to bomb terrorist bases in Afghanistan or suspected terrorist sites in the Sudan.

She didn't deal with the problems in the CIA and other intelligence agencies. She didn't work on nuclear proliferation. She did not deal with genocide in Rwanda.

When Bill Clinton brought Israelis and Palestinians to negotiations at Camp David in 2000, Hillary wasn't there.

These are the conclusions reached by New York Times reporter Patrik Healy, who reported on Dec. 26 on his conversations with 35 Clinton administration officials and his interview with Hillary herself.

"Mrs. Clinton did not hold a security clearance," Healy wrote. "She did not attend National Security Council meetings. She was not given a copy of the president's daily intelligence briefing. She did not assert herself on the crises in Somalia, Haiti and Rwanda."

Most important: Hillary did not do "the hard part of foreign policy" - "making tough decisions, responding to crises." That's what Susan Rice told the New York Times - she was a National Security Council senior aide and a State Department official during the Clinton administration. She's now supporting Obama.

Readers may recall that Hillary has claimed to be the most experienced Democratic candidate not just on domestic issues, but also on international, because of her eight years in the White House. She often says she visited 79 countries as first lady. She often talks about meeting with the president of Uzbekistan and the prime minister of Czechoslovakia.

But when the New York Times reporter asked her to name three major foreign policy decisions in which she played a decisive role as first lady, she "responded in generalities" rather than specifics.

When the Times asked her to cite a significant foreign policy lesson she learned from the 1990s, she replied "There are a lot of them," and went on to talk about "the whole unfortunate experience we've had with the Bush administration."

What did she do on those trips to 79 countries? These were mostly "good-will endeavors" where she supported nonprofit work. She acted as "a spokeswoman for American interests." She often spoke out for women's rights -- especially at the 1995 UN conference on women in Beijing. She brought Catholic and Protestant women together at a meeting in Northern Ireland. And, Healy reported, she often advocated "the expanded use of microcredits, tiny loans to help individuals in poor countries start small businesses."

Comments (39)

1. Thanks for the good stuff, Jon.

   Snippet of Jon Wiener's bio:

   Wiener hosts a weekly afternoon drive-time interview radio program on KPFK 90.7 FM in Los Angeles His guests have included Joan Didion, Gore Vidal, Barbara Ehrenreich, Frank Rich, Seymour Hersh, Maxine Hong Kingston, Amos Oz, Mike Davis, Elmore Leonard, John Dean, Julian Bond, Al Franken, and Terry Gross of the NPR show Fresh Air.

   Jon Wiener was born in St. Paul, Minnesota and attended Central High School there. He has a B.A. from Princeton and a Ph.D. from Harvard, where he began working as a writer in the late sixties for the underground paper The Old Mole. He lives in Los Angeles.

   Hopefully The Nation, as a whole, has begun to coalesce behind the populist progressive campaign of John Edwards as opposed to the rather lukewarm recent lead editorial espousing a progressive revival, while neglecting to endorse the very voice that is speaking the word with conviction --a voice that is solidly in the thick of the mix.

   I encourage us all --in the wake of the disaster that is Dubya-- to seize the opportunity to push the pendulum in an entirely new and sweeping arc, especially as we stand in the shadow of unprecedented challenges that loom dead ahead.

   Good night, and good luck.

   Posted by b_kool_66 at 12/27/2007 @ 02:53am

2. Hillary is playing a cat and mouse game of hiding her record as First Lady which shows NO substantive experience, and then running on her husband's record when she thinks that record will help her.

   Why doesn't Hillary just come out and say it - Bill Clinton will be running things again if I am elected president - and have voters decide if this is what they want?

   Posted by Metteyya at 12/27/2007 @ 03:47am

3. Gee, RIO, I thought you would read this and come away with "Demoncrats cannot wait to nominate Hillary, Satans 2nd favorite daughter".

   Funny thing is NEITHER did WJC her husband do any of these things or NOWHERE near effective and he got reelected!!!!!!!!!!!

   Posted by RIO BRAVO 12/27/2007 @ 01:14am

   Sounds like another recent 2 termer, that you support with zero questions. But, Chimpy has God on his side, unlike that devil worshipper Hillary and her daughter.

   http://www.red-ice.net/winterwonderland/chelseainvertedcross.html

   Posted by crabwalk at 12/27/2007 @ 07:47am

4. RIO, tell us some more about the Koran and how the only real peaceful book is the Bible...

   http://www.armyofgod.com/

   >i?How to deal with police:

   I. Never trust police, FBI, or other agents.

   X. Never betray your brothers or sisters in the LORD.why assist the protectors of the babykillers with assisting them by ruling you out.

   In the first place, when the law enforcement authorities come to see you, there are NO "simple questions". Unless they are investigating a traffic accident, you can be sure that they want information about somebody. And that somebody may be you!

   If you go to your door one day and are greeted with these words, "GOOD MORNING! My name is Investigator Friendly. Do you mind answering a few simple questions?"

   STOP AND THINK! "I have nothing to say, I've been advised to not to speak to you without my lawyer. Good-bye."

   No matter how understanding and nice an Officer appears, Security and police are charged to protect authorities and protect laws that allow abortion, gossip, slander and innuendo. They take information from indifferent social workers, psychiatrists and agencies--and in this way, society continues to abuse and murder the helpless.

   But what if they are trying to find an Islamic Fascist? What if Chimpy or Mukasey sent them? ohhh, the neo-conundrum!!!

   Posted by crabwalk at 12/27/2007 @ 08:01am

5. buwahahaha, oh man. Good stuff comes when researching Hillaries Devil worship

   RNU.com – (Raiders News Update) - A few years ago during the Christmas season my wife and I walked through a local mall. As we perused the different shops, we came across a New Age bookstore conducting a "Grand Opening". In a derisive tone I said to my wife,"Can you believe some people's lack of intelligence?"

   Casually, I strolled into the store, and without hesitation snatched a book from the shelf and began offering a sarcastic commentary as I read from the pages. I noticed my wife growing uncomfortable and so I placed the book back on the shelf, and proceeded out of the store.

   Suddenly, a dull sensation hit me. It began in my stomach and shot upward through my head, impacting my equilibrium. As I stepped outside, into the main mall walkway, my head started to spin, my hands started shaking. I felt as if I was going to faint. It was literally as if an invisible terror had "jumped" on me, and was somehow injecting powerful feelings of nausea and anxiety throughout my entire body. I tried shaking it off, but couldn't. I attempted to walk it off and failed. At last, feigning interest in something, I moved away from my wife and began to pray. I asked the Lord to forgive me for my sarcastic attitude, my lack of caution, and for my want of concern for the lost. I prayed for deliverance from evil and for healing of the body and mind. After several hours of such walking and praying, I was finally restored.

   I discovered a valuable lesson that day: while a Christian may not be demon-possessed, it's equally true that the "princes" of this world are powerful, and we should enter their arena only after prayer, and at the prompting of the Lord.

   I also learned the mystical forces of the New Age movement are genuine (and willing to protect their territory!), and that much of what is currently published under the guise of New Age "enlightenment", is nothing less than Old Age doctrines of nefarious invisible hosts.

   the Big Question is: If Hillary, republican lite, gets elected, how will that effect the Rapture Index (http://www.raptureready.com/rap2.html) , which is holding at 159 but was at it's lowest point during Bills presidency?

   Record High 182 24 Sept 01

   Record Low 57 12 Dec 93

   Posted by crabwalk at 12/27/2007 @ 08:12am

6. Ari Melber -- 15 December 2007 -- The Nation

   'BILL CLINTON'S CRANKY CRITIQUE...Bill Clinton's new attack on Barack Obama is reverberating across the presidential trail this weekend, with politicos wondering whether Hillary's surrogate-in-chief is actually helping her. In a wide-ranging interview with Charlie Rose, Clinton suggested Obama was a risky and inexperienced choice. "When is the last time we elected a president based on one year of service in the Senate before he started running?" Clinton asked, arguing that voters who back Obama are "rolling the dice." "In theory, we could find someone who is a gifted television commentator and let them run," he added....'

   'Don't criticize what you can't understand.' - Robert Allen Zimmerman (Bob Dylan) 'Paredon!' - Ernesto 'El Carnifero' Guevara............................ ..................................... .. 'Lan Astaslem' - T-shirt, protestor at WTC rally

   Posted by HonestLiberal at 12/27/2007 @ 09:27am

7. "When is the last time we elected a president based on one year of service in the Senate before he started running?"

   Well, we did it three times in the recent past with candidates that had NO EXPERIENCE in the Senate or Washington: Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan, and Jimmy Carter.

   So much for the "rolling-the-dice" argument!

   Posted by Metteyya at 12/27/2007 @ 09:51am

8. Mr Wiener,

   I read your entire article thinking it was parody of wild-eyed Hannity-style "reasoning." Turns out you are serious. The expected punchline never came. I guess the joke's on me.

   You write "Hillary has claimed to be the most experienced Democratic candidate not just on domestic issues, but also on international, because of her eight years in the White House." NOTHING in your article contradicts this assertion by Hillary. It's true that she did not run the free world (and she doesn't claim she did), but she was the closest person in the world to the person who did for 8 years. Of all the Democratic candidates she has had the best view of how a president (and a pretty good one at that) operates in the international arena on a daily basis. Did she have a perfect view? No. Is that the standard? No.

   If "experience" means attending NSC meetings, I take it you'll be supporting a GOP candidate, Mr Wiener?

   Posted by BlueSpark at 12/27/2007 @ 10:11am

9. she has had the best view of how a president (and a pretty good one at that) operates in the international arena on a daily basis. Did she have a perfect view?

   Based on that logic, we should all vote for Chelsea Clinton! Or how about the Clinton dog, Buddy? At least Buddy was in the oval office, right at the feet of Bill!

   Posted by Metteyya at 12/27/2007 @ 10:42am

10. Rio-You may wish to find out what a UFO is before posting about the subject,again.

    Posted by i'm nobody at 12/27/2007 @ 12:12pm

11. Obama Was Right....Hillary Wrong Re: PAKISTAN

    With todays terrible announcement of Benazir Bhutto's assasination in Pakistan, one can't help but be reminded of a recent Democratic debate in which Hillary Clinton literally laughed at Barack Obama's statement that the United States should concentrate on the unrest in Pakistan even if it meant sending U.S. troops to the Afgan/Pakistan border where the Taliban, al-queda and other terrorists are camped. Hillary did her pompous, smirky laugh stating that Obama wants to 'talk to our enemies (Iran) and attack our allies' (Pakistan border). But as events unfold in the region we are learning more and more of just how disasterously wrong she and our foreign policy have been. We are supporting a crazy dictator (Musharaf) who we have given millions of dollars to....who has point blank told us that he will not go to the Pakistan border to address the true terrorists because they 'made a deal'. It doesn't matter that crazy Mu has weapons of mass destruction and is probably hiding Bin Laden in the border region. And to Hillary.....this is all just fine. Is this the great 'experience' that she boasts having ? Now, as we watch the turmoil increase in the Pakistan region Hillary will surely state that we need her 'experience' to handle the situation when in fact, it is this very mindset or experience that is leading America and the entire world toward catastrophe. Face it Hillary.....You are wrong...Obama was right. Oh.....and need I mention that the recent findings show that our 'enemy' hasn't had a weapons program for years ? But Hillary voted to basically crush Iran........wrong again Hill. And to top things off....you'll probably stay supportive of Crazy Mu ! With 'experience' like yours.....who needs enemies ? Greg 'Peace Song' Jones

    Posted by gregjones at 12/27/2007 @ 12:50pm

12. Hillary Clinton would make a great president - however she is a bad candidate, and primarily because she was wrong about Iraq.

    It was foolish to trust anyone: George Bush, Colin Powell, the New York Times, or even Lord God Almighty - if they told to vote for George Bushs Socialist Disaster in Iraq.

    Having been stupid and made a terrible mis-calculation that cost American prestige American influence American lives, THE LEAST SHE COULD HAVE DONE IS ADMIT IT WAS WRONG, APOLOGIZE, AND FIGHT FOR WHATS RIGHT NOW.

    Posted by conshame at 12/27/2007 @ 12:53pm

13. GregJones - wow, that really is terrible that she said a thing like that, it really shows why Hillary Clinton is so un-forgivably un-appealing, because she has got to know how wrong that is. She has been part of the Moderate Bi-Partisan BS of knuckling under to the Conservatives.

    Posted by conshame at 12/27/2007 @ 1:11pm

14. I meant compared to Bush.

    Posted by conshame at 12/27/2007 @ 1:15pm

15. Posted by CRABWALK 12/27/2007 @ 08:12am

    COMMENTS ON ACTIVE CATEGORIES

    01 False Christs

    A gentleman in Florida has made news by claiming to be Christ.

    hey crabs! i bet we can send the meter through the roof by all of us saying we are christ.

    hmmmmm? where's my earthquake machine.

    Posted by frosty zoom at 12/27/2007 @ 1:32pm

16. It would have been a felony for anyone to tell her about anything real that was going on. A "leak", it would have to be called. And I seriously doubt that Clinton's CIA daily briefer would have had any reason whatsoever to leak sensitive classified data to Clinton's wife,

    Posted by ZERO 12/27/2007 @ 12:22pm

    maybe she had an "intern" of her own. heheh.

    Posted by frosty zoom at 12/27/2007 @ 1:35pm

17. USA Today/Gallup Poll

    Most Admired Woman and Man in America

    1 Hillary Clinton ---------------- 1 George W. Bush

    2 Oprah Winfrey ---------------- 2 Bill Clinton

    3 Condoleezza Rice -------------- 3 Al Gore

    4 Angelina Jolie ----------------- 4 Barack Obama

    5 Laura Bush ------------------ 5 Billy Graham

    6 Margaret Thatcher -------------- 6 Nelson Mandela

    7 Benazir Bhutto ----------------- 7 George H. W. Bush

    8 Nancy Pelosi ------------------- tie 8 Bill Gates

    9 Maya Angelou ----------------- tie 8 Pope Benedict

    10 Queen Elizabeth --------------- tie 8 Jimmy Carter

    HELP!!!!!!!!!

    Posted by frosty zoom at 12/27/2007 @ 3:00pm

18. "Why should any thinking person care?"

    Posted by ZERO 12/27/2007 @ 4:26pm

    well, for me this is more fun that american gladiator.

    Posted by frosty zoom at 12/27/2007 @ 4:39pm

19. than

    Posted by frosty zoom at 12/27/2007 @ 4:39pm

20. Posted by ZERO 12/27/2007 @ 4:47pm

    yeah, i've been thinking about the fun part.

    well, at least my typing's getting better.

    don't give up.

    you're needed now more than ever.

    Posted by frosty zoom at 12/27/2007 @ 5:11pm

21. Think FRANKGRITS is just chomping at the bit to respond...but promised he wouldn't be back until She started winning and he'd "return to gloat"???

    Posted by Mask at 12/27/2007 @ 5:52pm

22. FROSTY, we need a third to join us as a Triumvirate

    Do you want to be Father, Son or the Wholly owned subsidiary?

    Posted by crabwalk at 12/27/2007 @ 6:21pm

23. Posted by FROSTY ZOOM 12/27/2007 @ 3:00pm

    I would suggest this is a direct result of ...corporate media influence on the Hive Mind of the US.

    Sadly, #7 woman can be removed.

    How the hell can Chimpy be the most admired man in America and have approval ratings in the mid 20's, and Pelosi be in the top ten and have approval ratings in the teens?

    How about we go to a lottery system to choose out leaders? You may not enter your own name for the lottery, you must be nominated by others.

    Posted by crabwalk at 12/27/2007 @ 6:33pm

24. What is Queenies stance on the Pats/Giants game and the simulcast?

    The league's decision to simulcast the game came amid mounting Congressional pressure to make the potentially historic game more broadly available.

    The Connecticut delegation wrote to Commissioner Roger Goodell that the league's definition of home markets was "unduly narrow," leaving fans in cities around the state where loyalties are divided between their Giants and Patriots, without the same local broadcast option afforded the New York and Boston markets.

    The Rhode Island delegation also protested the league's market designations that would have deprived Patriots' fans in Providence and throughout the state of seeing their team go undefeated unless they subscribed to DirecTV or the Dish Network, or got the NFL Netword from their local cable operators.

    The league was also warned by Senator Patrick Leahy, Democrat of Vermont and the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, and Arlen Specter, Republican of Pennsylvania and the ranking member of the committee, that it was "exercising its substantial market power to the detriment of consumers." They cautioned that the strategy might lead to a re-examination by Congress of the league's ememption from antitrust laws regarding the joint negotiation of its broadcast television rights.

    Posted by crabwalk at 12/27/2007 @ 6:42pm

25. More importantly, what has Queenie done to reign in out of control spending, especially the $15,000,000,000/month we are spending on the Iraq war and the GWOT?

    And why won't the neo-cons ask for a tax hike to pay for it? They must want micro progress for nothing. Which sounds precariously close to their very own cries about the evil left.

    Posted by crabwalk at 12/27/2007 @ 6:47pm

26. JON WIENER Posted 12/27/2007 @ 12:43am – in part:

    But when the New York Times reporter asked her to name three major foreign policy decisions in which she played a decisive role as first lady, she "responded in generalities" rather than specifics.

    Hillary is an emptiest suit from a family of empty suits. Hell, Bill's brother Roger has as much experience as Hillary with just as many major accomplishments…..zero. In fact, without Clinton as a last name, she would be Hillary Who? Sadly, a last name is all it will take to be the Democratic nominee.

    Posted by Econ Major at 12/27/2007 @ 7:08pm

27. How about we go to a lottery system to choose out leaders? You may not enter your own name for the lottery, you must be nominated by others.

    Posted by CRABWALK 12/27/2007 @ 6:33pm

    actually,

    our (yes, our) choices are kinda like the buffet at

    "UNCLE RUPERT'S HOUSE OF OVER-COOKED BROCCOLI"

    mushy brussels sprouts,

    (not even, for the grace of god, toasted) wonderbread,

    cold, unsalted, undercooked beans,

    and the house special,

    char-broiled air.

    dig in.

    Posted by frosty zoom at 12/27/2007 @ 10:01pm

28. The league was also warned by Senator Patrick Leahy, Democrat of Vermont and the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, and Arlen Specter, Republican of Pennsylvania and the ranking member of the committee, that it was "exercising its substantial market power to the detriment of consumers." They cautioned that the strategy might lead to a re-examination by Congress of the league's ememption from antitrust laws regarding the joint negotiation of its broadcast television rights.

    Posted by CRABWALK 12/27/2007 @ 6:42pm

    Football To The People!!!

    Posted by frosty zoom at 12/27/2007 @ 10:03pm

29. Posted by CRABWALK 12/27/2007 @ 6:42pm

    hey, it's on t.v (the ol' fashin' kin') here...................

    damn! gotta work.

    Posted by frosty zoom at 12/27/2007 @ 10:06pm

30. mmm. char broiled air, Chinese style, with that special coal flavor

    Posted by crabwalk at 12/28/2007 @ 09:19am

31. Sadly, a last name is all it will take to be the Democratic nominee.

    Posted by ECON MAJOR 12/27/2007 @ 7:08pm | ignore this person

    not unlike the republican nominee of 2000, you know what's his name.

    Posted by brannigan at 12/28/2007 @ 3:28pm

32. Obama Was Right....Hillary Wrong Re: PAKISTAN By: Greg Jones

    With the terrible announcement of Benazir Bhutto's assassination in Pakistan, one can't help but be reminded of a recent Democratic debate in which Hillary Clinton literally laughed at Barack Obama's statement that the United States should concentrate on the unrest in Pakistan even if it meant sending U.S. troops to the Afghan/Pakistan border where the Taliban, Al-queda and other terrorists are camped. Hillary did her pompous, smirky laugh stating that Obama wants to 'talk to our enemies (Iran) and attack our allies' (Pakistan border). But as events unfold in the region we are learning more and more of just how disasterously wrong she and our foreign policy have been. We are supporting a crazy dictator (Musharaf) who we have given millions of dollars to....who has point blank told us that he will not go to the Pakistan border to address the true terrorists because they 'made a deal'. It doesn't matter that crazy Mu has weapons of mass destruction and is probably hiding Bin Laden in the border region. And to Hillary.....this is all just fine. Is this the great 'experience' that she boasts having ? Now, as we watch the turmoil increase in the Pakistan region Hillary will surely state that we need her 'experience' to handle the situation when in fact, it is this very mindset or experience that is leading America and the entire world toward catastrophe. Face it Hillary.....You are wrong...Obama was right. Oh..and need I mention that the recent findings show that our 'enemy' hasn't had a weapons program for years ? But Hillary voted to basically crush Iran........wrong again Hill. To top things off....you'll probably stay supportive of Crazy Mu along with the other Bushites and regime controlled media 'experts' ! With 'experience' like yours.....who needs enemies ? NOTE: CNN's Wolf Blitzer just released an email to be read in the event of Bhutto's death naming Musharraf as responsible! ANYONE (politicians, media, etc.) who is still supportive of Musharraf is dangerous for America . Greg Jones

    Posted by gregjones at 12/29/2007 @ 2:27pm

33. Posted by GREGJONES 12/29/2007 @ 2:27pm | ignore this person

    you might consider the alternative to Musharaf. the have been military rulers in many countries. they are generally a response to chaos.

    Posted by brannigan at 12/29/2007 @ 3:05pm

34. When you strip the so-called experience issue to the core, it is just another Obama smear by Hillary who is playing on his youthful appearance.

    The plain fact is that Obama - just like Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan, and Jimmy Carter, who all had ZERO foreign policy experience before taking office - will hire the best foreign policy talent available for his Cabinet and National Security Adviser staff. Obama has already tapped some of this talent for his campaign and I'm sure Samantha Powers would make an excellent National Security Adviser in an Obama Administration.

    Hillary, more than anyone, knows that the president does not engage in foreign affairs in isolation and has the best foreign policy minds at his disposal who present all of the options and probable consequences of a particular foreign policy decision, and then the president decides based on the options presented. Obama, just as well as any other candidate, can make these foreign policy decisions in consultation with his advisers, and he has shown good judgment in the past on Iraq, Iran, and Pakistan.

    Hillary has failed the "good judgment test" in Iraq, Iran, and now Pakistan, so whatever her imagined experience might be is completely irrelevant.

    Playing on youthful looks is more of the same Hillary deception game in which she thinks she can fool voters into voting for her by focusing on Barack's youthful appearance. The reality is most Democratic voters want "real" change and know that Hillary does not represent this at all, as she has completely subscribed to the same deception game as George Bush and Dick Cheney that got us into war with Iraq, on the path to war with Iran, and produced the mess that we now see in Pakistan.

    Posted by Metteyya at 12/29/2007 @ 3:17pm

35. that we are discussing Bin Laden at all without the word prison is a continuing blot on the nation's honor. we are pa-thetic.

    Posted by brannigan at 12/30/2007 @ 12:58pm

36. SHOCKING NEWS !!! Please google PNAC....check the videos....The Neo-Cons planned the Iraq, Iran, Syria invasion back in 1992......Hillary is a part of the plan to continue the mission which is why she is getting more contribution funds from defense contractors (tank, guns, bomb manufacturers, etc.) than any other candidate including the republicans. DON'T BE FOOLED. A vote for Billary is a vote for war escalation !!!!!BEWARE OF BILLARY AMERICA !!!! Then google 'clinton body count'.....then....'ron brown's death'.....SHOCKING NEWS !!! Hillary IS actually a Neo-Con....was even president of her college Republican Organization. Edwards is nice but just a rich con man....trying to cater to the poor (which he's NEVER done a thing for)....while he gets $400 haircuts.....OBAMA IS THE TRUE ANSWER.....FOR THE RE-BIRTH OF AMERICA !!!!!!

    Posted by gregjones at 12/30/2007 @ 7:34pm

37. "It's true that she did not run the free world (and she doesn't claim she did), but she was the closest person in the world to the person who did for 8 years."

    Posted by BLUESPARK 12/27/2007 @ 10:11am

    No, she was married to the president.

    In light of the historical record, the assumption that she was the closest person to Bill Clinton during his tenure seems too great a leap.

    Posted by drhammer at 12/31/2007 @ 4:26pm

38. "I can take the time and energy, the mental bandwidth, the money, and convert it all into much more useful effort."

    Posted by ZERO 12/27/2007 @ 4:47pm

    I know your frustration, Zero, and there is naught I can do to assuage it.

    But despite the fact that I nothing about you personally, I reject the notion that anything else you do could be as important as trying to wake your fellow citizens from their slumber.

    If you silence yourself, the terrorists have won.

    Peace.

    Posted by drhammer at 12/31/2007 @ 4:37pm

39. Hillary's made a lot of speeches at various venues which were undoubtedly written by a speech writer, since Hillary is not a very talented writer herself. She has worked almost her entire career as a patent lawyer in Arkansas -- NOT a qualification to be president -- and before that she FLUNKED her law exam twice (TRUE !!) She has been "around" politics for years, but NOT as a decision-maker, policy strategist, or important player. Her fame, and consequent reason for becoming NY Senator, is as Bill's wife. Many, many individuals have been around Washington and are just as qualified (or unqualified as the case may be) to be president as Hillary is. Shall we elect Laura Bush? Perhaps we should, at least she has low negative poll ratings.

    Posted by WinnieM at 01/02/2008 @ 5:05pm