New Campaign, Please

posted by Christopher Hayes on 09/01/2008 @ 10:41am

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This campaign really has become some kind of caricature of trivinalia. Now we're getting press releases about the pregnancy of a Vice Presidential candidate's daughter?

I'm reminded of my favorite line from Obama's speech:

If you don't have a record to run on, then you paint your opponent as someone people should run from.

You make a big election about small things.

The Democrats have a problem in election season, and it was the same in 2004. If there's no campaign to cover, then the press has to focus on the actual state of the country and the world. And no campaign can ever do a better job of discrediting the Bush legacy, the Republican Party and the McCain candidacy more than the simple facts of the matter. But as soon as the campaign ramps up, it bumps the actual news of the world and nation from the front page, and we end up talking about the camapaign itself. (People are still dying in Iraq. When's the last time we heard about it?)

If this election is about the news cycle, John McCain wins and if its an election about the state of the country then Obama does. But focusing everyone on the latter is no easy task.

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THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ON EVERY RADIO SHOW, TALK ABOUT WHO IS PREGNANT, WAS PREGNANT.

MY GOD. DOES ANYONE SEE THAT OUR COUNTRY IS NOW ONE HUGE NATIONAL LAMPOON SKIT? WE ARE GOING INSANE.

EUROPE, AUSTRALIA, AND CANADA, LAUGH YOUR ASSES OFF.

Posted by Dogtail at 09/01/2008 @ 10:43am
We aren't getting press releases about a VP candidates pregnant daughter.We're getting press releases about a family values candidate who has an unwed and pregnant teen age daughter which goes to McCain's judgment just as picking a running mate that is under investigation goes to McCain's judgment.McCain's ability to make good judgment calls is quite relevant.

Posted by i'm nobody at 09/01/2008 @ 10:53am
I agree that Republicans have tried to make this election about "small things" because they have nothing to run on, but Palin is holding herself out to be a "government reformer" and "super mom" who is deeply proud of her Christian fundamentalism.

Hypocrisy is ALWAYS and issue in political campaigns, as this is what has turned so many people off from politics. So pointing out Palin's hypocrisy as a government "reformer" who thinks it is OK to use government power to pursue petty personal family vendettas, and her hypocrisy with her Christian fundamentalism concerning abstinence before marriage is fair game.

How can you argue against government programs that promote condom use because you believe in abstinence before marriage and then create a family crises of a teenage pregnancy in your own family because of this political AND religious point of view?

This is about Palin's HYPOCRISY, which is not a small thing.

Posted by Metteyya at 09/01/2008 @ 11:02am
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/30/121350/137

This is a daily Kos story... gossip, really... that is confusing me...

Posted by ttr at 09/01/2008 @ 11:17am
Posted by ttr at 09/01/2008 @ 11:17am

That Diary in your above post was VERY COMPELLING.

You should read it, CHRIS HAYES, and then tell us whether you think Palin faking a pregnancy of her own to cover up her daughter's pregnancy is a "small thing"?

Posted by Metteyya at 09/01/2008 @ 11:28am
Happy-What position is Edwards running for?It,obviously,is a big deal which is why you are trying to down play it and it does show that McCain lacks good judgment in picking her.

Posted by i'm nobody at 09/01/2008 @ 11:31am
it's all about the imagery.

permeate people's dreams with thoughts of protectors and protectees.

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/01/2008 @ 11:36am
New Campaign, Please

<<<<>>>>

personally, i wouldn't ask for another one.

perhaps an election would be better.

after all,

haven't the last "few" years of government just been "campaigns"?

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/01/2008 @ 11:38am
PS: I have a feeling, the MSM & the Lefty Moonbats, just won't be able to help themselves to help the Repubs, LOL! Hell, I see it everyday right here! Posted by 2HAPPY at 09/01/2008 @ 11:26am

I think you are way way way over optimistic. You get two perspectives generally, the far right and the far left. I'm guessing you rarely see in the middle. You never really get the middle online.

Posted by Cccomfo1 at 09/01/2008 @ 11:44am
Posted by Zero at 09/01/2008 @ 11:33am

I second all of that.

Posted by Cccomfo1 at 09/01/2008 @ 11:45am
Ave, Sarah!

It's great to have ya.

Nah, we don't need a new campaign.

The GOP are choking on their bile, their bigotry, their butchery, their ballz-up.

Laissez les bons temps roulez!

And Lord help NOLA.

With every passing GOP press release, Obama/Biden look better & better.

Posted by sloper at 09/01/2008 @ 11:50am
John McCain: "I was for experience before I was against it."

Posted by bobforer at 09/01/2008 @ 11:57am
maybe the kid will be half black. would that give the repugnants more street creds?

regardless, i cant get anything on the news but that anticlimactic excuse of an hurricane.

Posted by ibbleblibble at 09/01/2008 @ 12:18pm
2hap

If by "maverick" you mean drunken two-faced womanizing liar.... otherwise he's just Dumbo's sidekick

Posted by leftofcenter at 09/01/2008 @ 12:20pm
guess palin's kid didn't get that awful secular humanist sex ed in school.

diabolical liberals! abstinance! abstinance!

Posted by ibbleblibble at 09/01/2008 @ 12:23pm
Archivers take note:

I am going to go ahead with the prediction that this announcement was timed to set the stage for a "graceful" exit from the ticket by Palin.

Sometime soon, certainly by the end of September, you will see SP before the cameras telling us that she wants to "spend more time" with her family and that she doesn't want "to be a distraction" in this most important election.

Who's Mc Nasty got in the wings?

Mittster (magic undies and all) ? Fred Thompson ?

Heck, this might have been a stunt to buy time so that Johnny Mack can continue to woo Hillary (wouldn't Frank wet himself ?), whatever, SP is the patsy. I wonder if she knows.

If I am wrong, hey, I can live with that.

Got it saved, there Luvvy ?

You, too, Mask ?

That's nice.

Posted by skeletonman at 09/01/2008 @ 12:37pm
Posted by skeletonman at 09/01/2008 @ 12:37pm | ignore this person | warn this person

this season it would not suprise me.

Posted by ibbleblibble at 09/01/2008 @ 12:43pm
>>>Now, can Magic control his side's 527s and Daily Kos? Can it control the media that made him?

Posted by 2HAPPY at 09/01/2008 @ 11:58am<<<

HAP,

Read the Diary from the Daily Kos in the link below and then tell us if they are off base?

If you believe they are off base, will you agree to Bristol's boyfriend taking a paternity test?

A paternity test will stop the Daily Kos, not Obama, so if it really is NOT his kid that Sarah Palin "delivered", then what is the issue?

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/30/121350/137

Posted by Metteyya at 09/01/2008 @ 12:49pm
Ya know, I just went to the post at the salon.com and followed some of the video links regarding the MN arrests and I it is awfully fishy. Oh sure, they found a few guns and what not ... shit, like that should be a surprise. But detaining journalists, cuffing lawyers that came to represent those being charged. Sounds pretty friggin Gestapo. Should serve to galvanize the anti-McC crowd though, so maybe some good will come of it.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/08/31/raids/

scroll down and there are some video links

Posted by leftofcenter at 09/01/2008 @ 1:10pm
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/30/121350/137

Posted by Metteyya at 09/01/2008 @ 12:49pm | ignore this person | warn this person

"Checking with the Anchorage High School that Bristol Palin attended, reporters were given word that her family had taken Bristol out of school due to contracting infectious mononucleosis. The amount of time Bristol was absent shifts from five to eight months.

Mono can last anywhere from two weeks to three months, but an eight month infection is a freak oddity. Yet it remains a common excuse given by girls in private & Catholic schools around the nation when pregnancy comes into play. Not the first time, not the last time."

also she might be getting into hot water over her vindictive attempt to fire her ex bro-in-law...heeheehee! she has hired a private lawyer!

Posted by ibbleblibble at 09/01/2008 @ 1:20pm
FrankNoGrits-You are sounding like the secret GOP operative that you said that everyone else was.Guess what,diitohead,many republicans get abortions in that situation and many democrats don't.No one is picking on the daughter as you lied and claimed.People are just saying what you dittoheads would be saying if the situation was reversed.

Posted by i'm nobody at 09/01/2008 @ 1:22pm
FrankNoGrits-How do you know that the daughter is in love?

Posted by i'm nobody at 09/01/2008 @ 1:22pm
I am only interested in the HYPOCRISY angle concerning government reform and whether Palin LIED ABOUT HAVING HER OWN KID.

These are fair questions that show the character of one who would be president if McCain gets elected and has to step aside.

I have a MEDICAL QUESTION: how long after delivering a baby before a woman can get pregnant again?

Posted by Metteyya at 09/01/2008 @ 1:26pm
It's really amazing when you support the candidate from the other side and you read the comments from those in your own party. It's really a rude awakening.

Posted by frankgrits at 09/01/2008 @ 1:18pm | ignore this person | warn this person

you are a liar. you have been a clever el rushbo provacateur since you slimed your way onto this website years ago. you are full of shit and i don't believe a word you vomit forth.

i was wrong in calling you a benedict arnold or a quisling or a turncoat. i made the mistake of trying to assume the best.

but i was wrong - your supposed hatred of el rushbo was a clever little brain stapling and i have no idea whether you do or dont have a son who has served. you may even be a very bored el rushbo yourself trolling and trawling for ideas.

slimeball...

Posted by ibbleblibble at 09/01/2008 @ 1:26pm
FrankNoGrits-I love the way you claim to speak for God,McCain,Palin's daughter,etc.You are a good dittohead.

Posted by i'm nobody at 09/01/2008 @ 1:26pm
Posted by leftofcenter at 09/01/2008 @ 1:10pm

Welcome to Amerika.

Too bad our best chance candidate voted to give these asshole more surveillance powers.

If this is the new face of my government, then any may feel free to question my patriotism.

I do.

Eric

Posted by Malcontent at 09/01/2008 @ 1:27pm
Answer 4 out of 12 by Anonymous49 on Jul 17, 2007 at 5:13 pm Permalink

Avatar You can become pregnant IMMEDIATELY after giving birth. It's almost unheard of, especially since the doctor tells you to wait six weeks before resuming intercourse.

However, I am living proof that it's most certainly possible. I became pregnant only several weeks after giving birth to my first child.

I also have a friend who has experienced this not once, but TWICE. She has three children who are all spaced TEN months apart from each other.

Posted by Metteyya at 09/01/2008 @ 1:31pm
I have a MEDICAL QUESTION: how long after delivering a baby before a woman can get pregnant again?

Posted by Metteyya at 09/01/2008 @ 1:26pm

As soon as she ovulates.

Anywhere from a couple of weeks to months. Breast feeding is not an effective method of birth control, btw.

Of course, there has to be another DNA source involved.

Posted by skeletonman at 09/01/2008 @ 1:37pm
So if Bristol Palin was the one who actually delivered Trig Palin in the MIDDLE OF APRIL, and Bristol actually waited 6 weeks like the Doctor recommended, how many months pregant would she be now with her SECOND CHILD?

June, July, August, September - 4 months.

If she didn't wait and was HIGHLY FERTILE as doctors say immediately after pregnancy, then how many months?

May, June, July, August, September - ALMOST 5 MONTHS!

So when Sarah says ALMOST 5 MONTHS is what Bristol pregnancy is now, and that this DISPROVES that Bristol could have had Trig in mid-April, SHE IS NOT TELLING THE TRUTH

Posted by Metteyya at 09/01/2008 @ 1:40pm
by skeletonman at 09/01/2008 @ 12:37pm...

If I was to take your 'prediction' and run with it... and I'm not saying I am... I would probably end up at the following destination-

Intrigue.

If it is true that 'big business' is actually rather successful at turning the 'nuts and bolts' of the US government... and that Alaska is to be considered an 'oil state'... then there may be some very influential people within these hierarchies that are none too pleased with Palin's 'reformist' platform... already in Alaska, and soon to be everywhere.

And... though Republicans do not often attack each other... in the practical world it is largely due to their unwavering support of big business interests... weaving a network that supports its own, which was often called the 'hidden conspiracy' some years ago.

Palin the reformer, on a wave of public support, may have become 'tiresome' to those with 'more lucrative agendas'... and she, having some particularly 'dirty laundry'... may be getting national exposure at a time of poignant vulnerability... as payback.

As the saying goes... don't count your chickens until they're hatched... and the Republicans are still laying...;^)

Posted by ttr at 09/01/2008 @ 1:42pm
Next we will hear that Bristol is still a virgin and the conception was immaculate.

Posted by BullyBoy at 09/01/2008 @ 2:19pm
>>>Seems like some nasty leftwing sites were spreading false rumors that Sarah's daughter was actually the mother of the baby born with Downs . This is a new low that even Karl Rove wouldn't have gone to.

Posted by frankgrits at 09/01/2008 @ 2:08pm<<<

FRANKGRITS,

Go to the site below and read the updated story and look at all of the pictures there. Then come back here and tell us whether there is a "serious question" as to whether Sarah Palin LIED TO THE PUBLIC that "she" delivered Trig Palin instead of her daughter Bristol?

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/30/121350/137

Posted by Metteyya at 09/01/2008 @ 2:23pm
>>>of course all of Sarah's medical records and history of the pregnancy and birth were just figments of your imagination.<<<

I don't want to look at records that could be made up, I want a PATERNITY TEST from Levi or whoever the first sexual partner of Bristol Palin was that establishes whether Sarah Palin had the child or is covering for Bristol.

Posted by Metteyya at 09/01/2008 @ 2:36pm
>>>You're sick and trust me, you're really pissing your candidate off.

Posted by frankgrits at 09/01/2008 @ 2:26pm<<<

No candidate wants their family's privacy to become destroyed because of their desire for higher office, and Obama is no exception. But when we have a case here, where Sarah Palin MIXES POLITICS WITH FAMILY ISSUES, then we need to get the answers that the public has a right to know concerning Sarah Palin's CHARACTER AND FITNESS to be president.

Posted by Metteyya at 09/01/2008 @ 2:43pm
Seems like some nasty leftwing sites were spreading false rumors that Sarah's daughter was actually the mother of the baby born with Downs . This is a new low that even Karl Rove wouldn't have gone to.

Posted by frankgrits at 09/01/2008 @ 2:08pm | ignore this person | warn this person

really????

Posted by ibbleblibble at 09/01/2008 @ 2:49pm
by frankgrits at 09/01/2008 @ 2:53pm ...

I don't remember seeing Barack Obama's mother's name on the ballot... was she running for Vice President in '64?

Posted by ttr at 09/01/2008 @ 3:00pm
frank,

frank,

frank.

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/01/2008 @ 3:03pm
>>>Hey nutcase. How old was Barack Obama's mother when he was born? Was she married when she got pregnant?

Posted by frankgrits at 09/01/2008 @ 2:53pm<<<

I don't have a problem with teenage pregnancy per se, although I believe it is not advisable and should be prevented if possible through birth control or condom use.

This is not about condemning Bristol, it is whether Sarah Palin LIED TO THE PUBLIC concerning the maternity of Trig, which raises "serious questions" concerning her character and fitness to be president.

There also is a serious "policy question" concerning Sarah Palin's desire to force abstinence-only policies on Americans when her own family circumstance would lead any reasonable person to question such policies.

Posted by Metteyya at 09/01/2008 @ 3:03pm
Posted by 2HAPPY at 09/01/2008 @ 12:02pm

Eh that's fine. It's why I don't trust polls. But you are trusting that the polls are more inaccurate than you think. You are putting trust in a lie so how can you trust that the percentages are off by as much are you think? Also if you are lying, how many dems do you think are also? YOU may say none but I can guarantee you it's about as many if not more, since we make up more of the electorate, than are lying on your side.

Posted by Cccomfo1 at 09/01/2008 @ 3:15pm
Posted by frankgrits at 09/01/2008 @ 3:26pm

I am an enthusiastic supporter of Barack Obama, but I am NOT part of his campaign staff. My thoughts and words are my own, and I will not allow ANYONE to dictate to me what I should think, what I should feel, or what I should express to others on this board or anywhere else.

If I think Sarah Palin has a character question, then I will express this unfettered.

It is unfortunate that Sarah has decided to make her family an issue in all of this, but she had a choice of whether to send those emails and staff (and husband Todd) to lean on the public safety commissioner to pursue a personal family vendetta. She also had a choice of whether to come clean with the public and admit to her daughter's pregnancy when it "first" came up last year when she took Bristol out of school for 8 months.

Sarah Palin made the wrong choices and decided to make her family a political issue in assessing her own character and fitness for higher office, so it should be no surprise when others make them an issue as well.

Posted by Metteyya at 09/01/2008 @ 3:38pm
If the Republicans are taking advice from Dick Morris, they are in worse shape than I thought.

Posted by Metteyya at 09/01/2008 @ 4:17pm
O'reilly's on now. He's going to be addressing this dailykos nonsense.

Posted by frankgrits at 09/01/2008 @ 3:59pm

"Curiouser and curiouser," said Alice.

Posted by yutsano at 09/01/2008 @ 4:29pm
Incidentally, this whole mishegas about her pregnant daughter is sheer sensationalism and has zip to do with the election or any of the candidates. I have many many other differences with Ms. Palin that have zip to do with either her eldest daughter or her youngest son. I'd rather focus on the issues and stances and show why her candidacy is fallacious on those grounds than worry about her personal familial issues. But then again that's just me.

Posted by yutsano at 09/01/2008 @ 4:31pm
Christopher Hayes wrote: "But as soon as the campaign ramps up, it bumps the actual news of the world and nation from the front page, and we end up talking about the camapaign itself. (People are still dying in Iraq. When's the last time we heard about it)"

If this election is about the news cycle, John McCain wins and if its an election about the state of the country then Obama does. But focusing everyone on the latter is no easy task."

I have seldom been more in wholehearted agreement with a NATION journalist - and my opinion is pretty darned close to most NATION journalists. Bravo, Mr. Hayes!

You have my permission to take a long break from covering political campaigns. Instead, do some intensive research on the voting records of Obama, McCain, Biden, and Palin. Publish your findings shortly before the election. I'll thank you fervently and won't miss the political circus hoo-hah one tiny bit.

As the old East German saying goes: If you want to know what government officials are really up to, don't watch their lips; watch their hands.

Posted by JakobFabian at 09/01/2008 @ 4:53pm
#

The more this campaign progresses, the more embarrassed I am to be a democrat.

Posted by frankgrits at 09/01/2008 @ 2:08pm | ignore this person | warn this person

The Democrats aren't doing too much bragging about it either.

"#

Yeah, now the dems are going to pick on Sarah's seventeen year old daughter because she's in love, got pregnant and is choosing to have her baby. They'll condemn her even while they send their own daughters to the abortion clinic.

Posted by frankgrits at 09/01/2008 @ 1:16pm | ignore this person | warn this person"

No, they are pointing out the interesting fact that this is happening in the family of a VP who was picked to score evangelical votes. I think it's also interesting as to what choice the daughter was given in the matter.

Posted by brunowe at 09/01/2008 @ 5:12pm
O'reilly's on now. He's going to be addressing this dailykos nonsense.

Posted by frankgrits at 09/01/2008 @ 3:59pm

o'reilly?

addressing?

frank,

take your protein pills and put your helmet on.......

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/01/2008 @ 5:43pm
Posted by frankgrits at 09/01/2008 @ 2:54pm

I have never read one word that would lead me to believe you were a Democrat. I know you were a Hillary supporter, supposedly, but how do you switch gears and support the poster girl for the right wingnuts and John McCain who is indeed becoming "a noun, a verb" and POW.

I post on Free Republic and I'm not exactly straightforward-many lies of omission. I think maybe you really wanted to vote McCain-a latent Republican struggling to come out of the closet maybe?

It's okay, be proud of who you are.

Posted by Pogge at 09/01/2008 @ 5:52pm
It's the media, stupid.

The big ten all gave it the usual spin...

Google news is daily proof.

Biden's marks a lackluster, and Palin an ingenious selection.

zzzzzzzzz z z zz z

Posted by winyahn at 09/01/2008 @ 6:07pm
Media-majority male Palin-traditional,hot and unthreatening Result-awesome press

It's just a reality we have to work around.

Posted by Pogge at 09/01/2008 @ 6:18pm
what a wretched soul:

Anchorage, AK -- Today Defenders of Wildlife, the Alaska Wildlife Alliance and the Alaska Chapter of the Sierra Club asked the Alaska Superior Court to shut down Governor Palin's $150-per-wolf bounty program citing the fact that Alaska's bounty laws were repealed in 1984 and the State has no current legal authority to implement the bounties.

<<<<<<<>>>>>>>

kill the wolves from helicopters so her fat ass buddies can get their jollies picking off some ruminants....

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/01/2008 @ 6:29pm
It's funny how many right wingers will promote social Darwinism for poor humans(excepting fetuses of course)yet try to destroy every natural predator in the wild that threatens their sport or their bank accounts.

We have lost more chickens to hawks and eagles and lambs to the neighbors dogs than to wolves and coyotes and bears put together.

My advice-get a savvy dog to warn you-ours are smart enough not to tackle a pack of coyotes-and llamas to guard the sheep. If you have problem predators, shoot them, but don't define "problem animal" as one that has to eat or is handy target practice.

Posted by Pogge at 09/01/2008 @ 6:50pm
Posted by frankgrits at 09/01/2008 @ 7:25pm

I believed that back in 2000. I was horrified by what the evil Rovians did to McCain and Cleland.

But McCain has been hugged and kissed and had his hair ruffled by Bush too many times in the last eight years. If McCain wants the presidency badly enough to allow himself to be humiliated, fine, he probably isn't the first or the last, but his independence was the only thing he had going for him.

I won't vote for a lap dog and certainly I won't give Sarah a chance. According to her own policy statements we agree on nothing including where motherhood falls on our list of priorities.

Posted by Pogge at 09/01/2008 @ 7:39pm
You sound like a pretty bitter woman. What are you so angry about?

Projected by frankgrits at 09/01/2008 @ 8:04pm

actually,

she seems quite calm.

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/01/2008 @ 8:21pm
Thanks frosty. I'm positively zenned out.:)

Why is it, Frank, that when you rant you're passionate, but when I do I'm bitter?

Well, I'm not bitter, but of course I'm angry Frank. You're a smart guy, but you miss the point of Barack Obama entirely. It isn't about experience. He is intelligent, has a very broad intellect, understands nuance and has negotiated that gray territory between blacks and whites successfully. He has big ideas and big dreams. Maybe they will work, maybe they won't but at least he has them....

You see, like Barack, I believe my country can do anything and I am sick to death of this "can't do" attitude.

If we set a goal of finding new technologies that would replace the imported portion of our oil in ten years and pursued it with passion we would succeed. Period. I have absolute faith in this and no doubts. What we lack is someone to say "let's do this!" with some real energy and enthusiasm. Obama has it. So I vote Obama for pretty much the same reason I voted Hillary, brains and passion.

We aren't going to change each other's minds and that's.....okay. Nite.

Posted by Pogge at 09/01/2008 @ 8:46pm
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

Posted by frankgrits at 09/01/2008 @ 2:03pm

Let he who is the hog not call the pig smelly

Posted by skeletonman at 09/01/2008 @ 8:57pm
Posted by Pogge at 09/01/2008 @ 8:46pm

I like you more and more every day. You believe so much like I do. This nations pacific fleet on the day of Pearl Harbor was blown to hell. The Japanese said it would take us forever to rebuild. The nation banded together had a stronger navy built in less time than anyone imagined. That is the sleeping giant. That is the power of America. If we ban together and put our energies into a solution it will be found and quicker than anyone thinks it can be. We have spent too much time with Democrats and Republicans alike telling us "You can't do that." I'm so sick of it. This nation is capable of great things. I think we have just lost our compass due to BS partisan politics that separates us into a nation of enemies who are not willing to work together for solutions. It is so present just in the way people talk about each other. The fact that Happy says he is doing his research on the enemy here. We need to stop being a nation of enemies and start realizing that whether you are right, left or center we are all still American.

Posted by Cccomfo1 at 09/02/2008 @ 01:12am
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 09/02/2008 @ 01:12am I have to go to work, but more examples like this please. I want to start a "Yes, we did!" file. Later...

Posted by Pogge at 09/02/2008 @ 03:37am
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 09/02/2008 @ 01:12a

bravo ... although I would add that a goodly portion of Obama's acceptance speech focussed on the true power of America being its indomitable spirit...

Posted by leftofcenter at 09/02/2008 @ 09:55am
All things being equal, I would concur that a candidate's family should be off-limits.

And I'm doubly sure that a great many hypocritical right-wing morality-mongers who are unable to live by the standards they would impose upon others feel the same way...

Posted by drhammer at 09/02/2008 @ 10:45am
bravo ... although I would add that a goodly portion of Obama's acceptance speech focussed on the true power of America being its indomitable spirit... Posted by leftofcenter at 09/02/2008 @ 09:55am

Which I think is the message we need to remind America of. That this country has proven in the past that we are capable of great things. Our revolution was something that most would have said shouldn't have been possible. We were a bunch of militia-men, farmers and slaves, fighting one of the greatest militaries in the world at the time but we won. This country has so much potential but I think years and years of disuse, bad policy and just a national depression have stunted that potential. We have the ability to lead the world but the world no longer looks to us as leaders. They look at us as the ailing superpower that is falling into the place of Russia. We need to remind the world and ourselves what this country can do when we ban together as one and stop thinking of each other as enemies.

Posted by Cccomfo1 at 09/02/2008 @ 11:31am
IF the Dems lose in November .... the REAL reason will be the mid-term elections 2-years ago..

The northeasterners and the west coast crowd think the flyover country folks are dumb... and we may be.. BUT we're not dumb enough to give the LEFT the house, senate, AND presidency...

(If congress's approval rating was above 9%... well then ... things may turn out differently)

Posted by bleedingheart at 09/02/2008 @ 12:13pm
IF the Dems lose in November .... the REAL reason will be the mid-term elections 2-years ago.. The northeasterners and the west coast crowd think the flyover country folks are dumb... and we may be.. BUT we're not dumb enough to give the LEFT the house, senate, AND presidency... (If congress's approval rating was above 9%... well then ... things may turn out differently) Posted by bleedingheart at 09/02/2008 @ 12:13pm

Instead their dumb enough to give the Senate and the Presidency to the right.

Posted by Cccomfo1 at 09/02/2008 @ 1:13pm
FG.....in 100 years there won't BE any oil at the rate we consume it. Sure, we should develop domestic oil, but the new drillings won't yield doodly for a decade. Hybrids, alternative fuels, new technologies should be the main focus and not the "well, we'll do that some day when oil runs out" mentality.

Posted by leftofcenter at 09/02/2008 @ 1:53pm