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"After a long winter of discontent we have the audacity to hope for springtime.... But there are miles to go before we sleep." --Ambassador Jayantha Dhanapalawe, President of Pugwash
For more than five years, the Weapons of Mass Destruction Commission (WMDC) and its Chairman, Dr. Hans Blix, have worked to generate proposals for reducing the dangers of nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons. Two weeks ago in Washington, DC, the commission met for the last time.
Blix described this moment as hopeful--a post-Iraq world in which people see the limits of force and the need for diplomacy. The world's attention is focused on the potential threat of nukes in Iran and North Korea, or in the hands of a terrorist group, and on nuclear instability in Pakistan. And there is real hope as a result of the new and focused leadership of President Obama and other leaders around the world.
It's critical that the disarmament movement seize this opportunity to push its agenda.
So, as the Commission ended its work, Dr. Blix invited the leaders of eight disarmament groups to speak about their continued efforts to rid the world of nuclear weapons. Participants included the Ploughshares Fund, Global Zero, Nuclear Security Project, Pugwash, Luxembourg Forum, International Commission on Nuclear Non-proliferation and Disarmament, Global Security Institute, and the Middle Powers Institute. There was also a presentation by White House WMD Coordinator, Gary Samore.
Dr. Bruce Blair of Global Zero said a major challenge will be to sustain the disarmament momentum and "prevent a lapse." While nuclear abolition has broadened its appeal politically--receiving endorsements from conservatives such as former Senator Chuck Hagel, John McCain, Henry Kissinger and George Schultz--Blair said the constituency isn't as vibrant as it needs to be and young people aren't sufficiently involved.
His colleague, former Ambassador Richard Burt, agreed. He said there simply isn't "a constituency like there was twenty or thirty years ago. Younger people are not paying attention." To that end, Global Zero is organizing field workers on college campuses and around the world.
There is also an effort to more effectively communicate the immediacy and urgency of the nuclear threat. Blix said it needs to be understood by the world as another "Inconvenient Truth." Jonathan Granoff of the Global Security Institute also pointed to Al Gore's success in tying global warming to something people discuss every day--the weather. People need to see nuclear weapons as "pertinent, real, present, and dangerous," Granoff said. "We haven't hit the resonant note yet. We have to find that." (And hopefully it will resonate before a nuclear incident.)
Political obstacles also threaten to derail new cooperation on nukes. Blix pointed to the provocative NATO exercises in Georgia this month, and Charles Curtis of the Nuclear Security Project said such actions threaten to "reboot" the old relationship with Russia rather than "reset" a new one, as the administration has consistently expressed a desire to do.
Certainly President Obama has done much to put disarmament back on the radar. White House WMD Coordinator, Gary Samore, said he has worked for five presidents and Obama is the "most interested and enthusiastic" about arms control and non-proliferation.
In fact, Samore said, the speech in Prague was Obama's own idea. Obama wanted to lay out his intention to work for "a world without nuclear weapons" and his administration's agenda. That agenda includes Senate ratification of the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty; an arms reduction treaty with Russia this year and work on a second treaty beginning in early 2010; strengthening the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty; negotiating the Fissile Material Cutoff Treaty to verifiably end the production of weapons-grade uranium and plutonium; and a Global Summit on Nuclear Security next year.
Samore said the fact that there were "no differences between key departments" on Obama's speech and proposed agenda bodes well as the administration moves forward. However, he also noted potential "huge landmines", including needed progress in talks with Iran and continued tensions over Georgia. I would add to that the lunacy of the proposed missile defense system at Russia's doorstep.
There is still a long road ahead, but this is indeed a hopeful moment for advocates who have been fighting tirelessly for nuclear abolition for decades. Once dismissed, their grounded realism and determined idealism is now moving into the mainstream.
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its not just nukes that threaten our exixtance, but a wide array of potential dooms if we shaved apes don't get our heads out our asses and start dreaming about a little more than our myopic and petty self aggrandizement.
and for that matter all military spending, despite the spinnoff tech factor...takes away from what we really need to be concentrating on...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 05/11/2009 @ 11:51am
"Obama wanted to lay out his intention to work for "a world without nuclear weapons" and his administration's agenda. That agenda includes Senate ratification of the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty; an arms reduction treaty with Russia this year and work on a second treaty beginning in early 2010; strengthening the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty; negotiating the Fissile Material Cutoff Treaty to verifiably end the production of weapons-grade uranium and plutonium; and a Global Summit on Nuclear Security next year."
Right..."work for"...and pass the stuff that's possible. But I don't think even Obama thinks that we'll be on our way to a total disarmement before he would leave office in 2017.
Posted by Mask at 05/11/2009 @ 12:00pm
Well KVH, most assuradly, a nuclear incident will come out of Pakistan.
Most probable scenario: a 3-way fight between Pakistan, India and China.
Don't think Russia would get involved though. They're saving all of their power for the US and Europe.
Posted by ACook at 05/11/2009 @ 12:10pm
Posted by ACook at 05/11/2009 @ 12:10pm
If that scares you, I will put your mind at ease with ACOOK's track record on predictions-
"Sorry SRJ, but I disagree. Obama could have a billion dollars and it still would not make him president. Even with all the money the DNC has brought in, the biggest prize is still eluding them. Otherwise yesterday's infomercial would not have been necessary."----Posted by ACook at 10/30/2008 @ 10:29am
Seismic Shifts in the Political Landscape posted by Tom Engelhardt on 10/29/2008 @ 09:15am
Posted by Mask at 05/11/2009 @ 12:15pm
Posted by Mask at 05/11/2009 @ 12:00pm
Mask, the Russians have no incentive to disarm at all. What we'll see is them exploiting Obama's weaknesses and using it against him.
Posted by ACook at 05/11/2009 @ 12:16pm
Knowing something of this, I wish the President had called for a 50% reduction in our existing nuclear arsenals with Russian President Medvedev...
That would have been more realistic and actually beneficial due to cost of maintaining these warheads and this insanity of the size of both of our nuclear arsenals which are in the many thousands...
50% would be a great start and safe many billions for both of our nations and perhaps also others who would follow suit...
Then perhaps again another 25-50% that's the way to do it initially bit by bit incrementally...
We have 10,000 Strategic thermo-nuclear warheads 10,000, many of more than 1 megaton most 3 or more megaton....1 megaton being equal in explosive power only 1,000,000 tons of TNT..not to consider the gamma rays and radiation from such a blast..
I hope the President brings up this call for a 50% reduction to begin with, that alone would be a huge breakthrough..
And not, pie in sky till we die....so to speak..
See what I mean..?
Posted by TJColatrella at 05/11/2009 @ 12:20pm
Posted by Mask at 05/11/2009 @ 12:15pm
Oh get over yourself. Just because I disagreed with his statement, doesn't make it a "prediction".
And I still believe Obama is a poor choice for president, just like McCain. Neither party put forth any good strong candidates.
No matter who made it in, we were gonna get messed over.
Posted by ACook at 05/11/2009 @ 12:23pm
and for that matter all military spending, despite the spinnoff tech factor...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 05/11/2009 @ 11:51am
"It seems to demonstrate that periods of industrial activity in technical syntheses of principles, data, free energy and energy as "matter," find highest employment by the fear-amassed credits of warfare. Therefore the assumption approaches fact that war promotes the major technical advances of civilization... What has not been clear is that the potential of this emergency-born technology has always accrued to human's prewar individual initiatives taken in a humble but irrepressible progression of assumptions, measurements, deductions, and codifications of pure science."
bucky
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/11/2009 @ 1:10pm
bucky had BALLS!
(teensy, tiny ones, but powerful nonetheless)
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/11/2009 @ 1:27pm
Posted by ACook at 05/11/2009 @ 12:23pm
YES, ACOOK, it DOES make it a prediction when you say...
"Obama could have a billion dollars and it still would not make him president. Even with all the money the DNC has brought in, the biggest prize is still eluding them."
And that was just American politics, NOW you're predicting international criseses and WARS....and on what analysis or data?????
Posted by Mask at 05/11/2009 @ 1:38pm
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/11/2009 @ 1:10pm | ignore this person | warn this person
its enough to lose faith in democracy and humankind...
then the end of the workday rolls around and a little hope glimmers through...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 05/11/2009 @ 2:09pm
Instead of more war, I think that Obama needs to use a lot of soft power. Specifically, I would like to see him use efficient foreign aid to address severe poverty overseas. The Borgen Project has good info on the estimated cost of ending global poverty:
$30 billion: Annual shortfall to end world hunger.
$550 billion: U.S. Defense budget.
Posted by davidwaters at 05/11/2009 @ 2:43pm
Posted by davidwaters at 05/11/2009 @ 2:43pm
Dave...think we got it about the 19th, 20th time. 'kay?
Posted by Mask at 05/11/2009 @ 2:49pm
Posted by snowball666 at 05/11/2009 @ 2:56pm | ignore this person | warn this person
gray goo...mmmm....
Posted by ibbleblibble at 05/11/2009 @ 3:05pm
Listing Kissinger as a proponent for nuclear abolition is similar to saying the KKK support racial and ethnic equality or claiming George W. Bush advocates for human rights--otherwise, the article is nice
Posted by homelesspoetco at 05/11/2009 @ 3:32pm
"And that was just American politics, NOW you're predicting international criseses and WARS....and on what analysis or data?????"
Posted by Mask at 05/11/2009 @ 1:38pm
Law of Probabilities always speaks to a 50/50 chance.
Posted by ACook at 05/11/2009 @ 7:49pm
Mask, the Russians have no incentive to disarm at all. What we'll see is them exploiting Obama's weaknesses and using it against him.
Posted by ACook at 05/11/2009 @ 12:16pm
How has Obama shown weakness in his foreign policy? He's escalated a war. He shows intelligence, which is, the intelligence to know that not EVERYTHING has to be solved with a club.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/11/2009 @ 10:19pm
Law of Probabilities always speaks to a 50/50 chance.
Posted by ACook at 05/11/2009 @ 7:49pm
Can you actually post the Law of Probability?
I won't hold my breath because their isn't one. There is nothing that says anything about a 50/50 chance. Do you live in reality or a parallel universe? You make something up and act as if you have factual back up to your statement. You don't.
There is no evidence that Russia is going to have a battle with us and Europe. There is no evidence to say that China is going to go to war with India and Pakistan. You sound like you are trying to be a modern day Nostradamus and quickly failing.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/11/2009 @ 10:24pm
It was that fist bump...DAP is weakness.
Posted by snowball666 at 05/11/2009 @ 10:21pm
I forgot. Damn him and his DAP!
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/11/2009 @ 10:49pm
Pope dreams and blue smoke from the Obamanation that makes desolation; sponsored by KVH.
Posted by comancheamerican at 05/12/2009 @ 01:25am
Law of Probabilities always speaks to a 50/50 chance.----Posted by ACook at 05/11/2009 @ 7:49pm
Uh, ACOOK, not sure you understand what "probabilities" means.
Or do you think there's a "50/50 chance" that you'll suddenly rip off all your clothes, cover yourself in chocolate, and run down the street naked?
Posted by Mask at 05/12/2009 @ 08:12am
Posted by snowball666 at 05/12/2009 @ 08:40am
Interesting big ot synchronicity...just watched a "Daily Show", where they interviewed this doom-saying HIGH SCHOOL teacher who thought there was a "50-50 chance" the Large Hadron Collider would create a black hole and destroy the Earth.
And just like ACOOK, when pressed on it he said "Well, it's probability. Something either will happen or it won't...so a 50-50 chance" and the interviewer said "I don't think you quite understand what 'probability' means!"
LOL
Posted by Mask at 05/12/2009 @ 09:08am
There is no evidence that Russia is going to have a battle with us and Europe. There is no evidence to say that China is going to go to war with India and Pakistan. You sound like you are trying to be a modern day Nostradamus and quickly failing.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/11/2009 @ 10:24pm
Actually, there is. Ezekiel 38 and 39 and Daniel 11.
Posted by antisocialist at 05/12/2009 @ 09:21am
Posted by antisocialist at 05/12/2009 @ 09:21am
But of course despite being "prophecies from God", there is no use of specific terms that indicate the Euro-Asian regions that we now call "Russia" or "China"....just vague terms that have gotten interpreted (typically by Hal Lindsey some 30 years agO) that get CLAIMED to be "Russia" or "China".
Odd how God didn't "inspire" Zeke and Dan on SPECIFICS, huh?
Posted by Mask at 05/12/2009 @ 09:41am
Actually, there is. Ezekiel 38 and 39 and Daniel 11.
Posted by antisocialist at 05/12/2009 @ 09:21am |
Oh good grief.
You use Ezekiel 28 to say satan was an angel as well?
Where in the bible is that story?
Oh yeah, not there. It IS in the fictional book by Milton though, right?
Posted by Benchrest at 05/12/2009 @ 10:31am
But of course despite being "prophecies from God", there is no use of specific terms that indicate the Euro-Asian regions that we now call "Russia" or "China"....just vague terms that have gotten interpreted (typically by Hal Lindsey some 30 years agO) that get CLAIMED to be "Russia" or "China".
Odd how God didn't "inspire" Zeke and Dan on SPECIFICS, huh?
Posted by Mask at 05/12/2009 @ 09:41am
I realize that you know little about prophetic vision, so it is not surprising that you would criticize a lack of specifics. Some prophecies are very specific; others contain a mixture of the prophet "seeing" the prophecy in a vision or dream. There is nothing odd at all about it.
Long before Hal Lindsay became a Christian (he was an atheist comm'l fisherman prior to his conversion), theologians were understanding that Gog was modern day Russia. Remember, nearly 3000 years ago, there was no nation called Russia. Prophets like Ezekiel did know however of the region known as Gog in describing what they saw in their visions.
And how could Ezekiel know that China would have a 200 million man army, 3 centuries earlier?
Let me add a personal example.
Two years ago, I was just preparing to begin my message to a congregation when I felt an incredible urging from G-d to speak what He was saying to me.
I began repeatedly saying "the Lord says that Big Trouble is coming, Big Trouble is coming. Prepare your hearts for this nation is going to go through a time of testing. Big Trouble is coming".
He did not give me anything more specific. I had no clue what it could mean except that I was compelled by G-d to speak it. And then I followed that by calling and emailing other ministers and Christian friends around the nation.
more to follow.
Posted by antisocialist at 05/12/2009 @ 10:39am
Continued to Mask on prophecy.
As months passed and nothing dramatic occurred, you are always left asking if you either didn't hear correctly or it was not really G-d. However, no specific time was given to me.
I actually had forgotten about it due to some family deaths that occurred and occupied a great deal of my time and energy.
It wasn't until last November when someone who had been in the service called me and reminded me of the prophecy. They said, "clearly we have entered into the time G-d warned you of". I have had many others confirm that they also believe G-d was using me to warn Christians of this time we are in. The problem is that we seldom do prepare ourselves, even when as Jesus asked the Pharisees
"How is it you see storm clouds and know that a storm is on the way. Yet you see the spiritual signs and do nothing"?
Posted by antisocialist at 05/12/2009 @ 10:48am
antisocialist-Christians and others have been saying that big trouble is coming for centuries,but as you pointed out nothing has happened and we have not entered into a time of trouble and nothing is different now than at any other time. Other religions have their prophets that are supposed to have said true stuff,too,but most of it is so generalized that it is meaningless and can be twisted to mean anything.In fact,everyone can claim to be a prophet because we have all said things that have happened.
Posted by i'm nobody at 05/12/2009 @ 11:03am
It wasn't until last November when someone who had been in the service called me and reminded me of the prophecy. They said, "clearly we have entered into the time G-d warned you of".----Posted by antisocialist at 05/12/2009 @ 10:48am
Hmmmmm...now what major event occurred last November that would make a fundey/evangey RIGHT-WINGER think it was the "end of the world"!??!?!!??!?? hmmmm?
BTW, theologians ALSO considered that "Gog of Magog" was considered to by Gyges of Lydia.
But of course THOSE theologians weren't REALLY "inspired by God"....only the ones YOU agree with.
Posted by Mask at 05/12/2009 @ 11:18am
Oh, also fun given a choice between a 2000+ year old Hebrew mythos called "The Book of Ezekiel" or modern political SCIENCE called "foreign policy studies"...this comment-
"They prefer hysteria and mythology to science when it comes to the climate.----Posted by lvliberty1 at 05/13/2008
Running Out of History posted by Tom Engelhardt on 05/12/2008 @ 10:58am
Posted by Mask at 05/12/2009 @ 11:25am
there is no need to disarm if congress does not want them to. McCullohvs.MD established they will do whatever is necessary and proper to carryout its constitutional duties including keeping us safe
Posted by DA7888 at 05/12/2009 @ 11:34am
antisocialist-Christians and others have been saying that big trouble is coming for centuries,but as you pointed out nothing has happened and we have not entered into a time of trouble and nothing is different now than at any other time. Other religions have their prophets that are supposed to have said true stuff,too,but most of it is so generalized that it is meaningless and can be twisted to mean anything.In fact,everyone can claim to be a prophet because we have all said things that have happened.
Posted by i'm nobody at 05/12/2009 @ 11:03am
If you have your head in the sand so deep that you don't see the trouble this nation is in, you have more problems than I thought.
Posted by antisocialist at 05/12/2009 @ 11:54am
antisocialist-The nation has always been in trouble and things are not worse now than at other times.Ever hear about the civil war,WW 2, or the great depression,by chance?You just want to pretend that things are worse so you can pretend that you are a prophet.I may have problems,but being delusional enough to believe that I speak for God and am a prophet are not problems that I have.
Posted by i'm nobody at 05/12/2009 @ 11:59am
Hmmmmm...now what major event occurred last November that would make a fundey/evangey RIGHT-WINGER think it was the "end of the world"!??!?!!??!?? hmmmm?
BTW, theologians ALSO considered that "Gog of Magog" was considered to by Gyges of Lydia.
But of course THOSE theologians weren't REALLY "inspired by God"....only the ones YOU agree with.
Posted by Mask at 05/12/2009 @ 11:18am
1. they were not referring to Obama's election as you suggest with your usual leftist bigotry.
It was the collapse of our financial system.
2. There are no theologians that I can find or have ever read who make that suggestion. Only secular writers try to make that suggestion. the Wiki article where I'm fairly sure you got your suggestion, only says vaguely "some theologians" without any references.
Even Josephus, the 1st Century Jewish historian refers to Gog as the Scythians which today are part of Russia and the Ukraine.
Posted by antisocialist at 05/12/2009 @ 12:05pm
antisocialist-Many people predicted the collapse of our economy and said so specifically.You made a generalized statement and then declared yourself to be a prophet because the economy went bad,but the true prophets are those who specifically stated that the problem would be the economy.
Posted by i'm nobody at 05/12/2009 @ 12:11pm
Posted by snowball666 at 05/12/2009 @ 11:38am
Socratic questioning always best.
Posted by Mask at 05/12/2009 @ 12:11pm
Posted by antisocialist at 05/12/2009 @ 12:05pm
1. Just a "co-inky-dink" that your friend go worried in NOVEMBER and not before (when things were already going bad), huh?
2. Again, OF COURSE, Larry. I suppose Josephus was "inspired by God" too, right?
BTW, I thought you WEREN'T an "End Timer"...Rapture, Battle of Armegeddon, Mark of the Beast, etc. guy?????
Posted by Mask at 05/12/2009 @ 12:14pm
I may have problems,but being delusional enough to believe that I speak for God and am a prophet are not problems that I have.
Posted by i'm nobody at 05/12/2009 @ 11:59am |
Well I agree with you there.
However, I have been acknowledged within the body of Christ to be a prophet. I did not make the declaration on my own.
And that is not a boastful statement. It is neither pleasant nor rewarding (on earth) to be a real prophet. No one who comes into that office which is appointed by G-d and not man, does so willingly or with anticipation of good times resulting from it. I have sacricifed a lot of what many others enjoy as the pleasures of this life, including most Christians. It has been tough on my family perhaps even more than it has for me.
I never offer the information on my office within the body of Christ, lightly or often. It is something that G-d and not I, controls and chooses. It is something I tell Christians that you cannot seek, nor should you desire. It is solely something that G-d determines; and it comes with a price of sacrifice in this life.
There are other genuine prophetic voices here and elsewhere in the world. But there are many out there who claim to be prophets, but are not. They use the title as a means to personal gain and will answer to G-d in their day of judgment.
Whether you believe my words is of no consequence. It is to G-d alone that I must answer to; In the meantime, I find at least some validation by the acceptance by the body of Christ of my office and authority, here and elsewhere in the world.
Posted by antisocialist at 05/12/2009 @ 12:23pm
antisocialist-Those people who consider you to be a prophet have not put thought into it and just allow you to make meaningless generalized predictions and then,like you,pretend that they came true.We see this sort of thing with cults and isolated religious communities everywhere.It isn't a matter of whether I believe it or not.Your own words prove that you make meaningless generalized predictions and then pretend that they happen.
Posted by i'm nobody at 05/12/2009 @ 12:32pm
However, I have been acknowledged within the body of Christ to be a prophet. I did not make the declaration on my own.-----Posted by antisocialist at 05/12/2009 @ 12:23pm
Just to re-clarify, could you tell EXACTLY WHO comprised that "body of Christ" and told you, you were a prophet?
Posted by Mask at 05/12/2009 @ 12:43pm
snowball-Give my beard another couple of weeks to grow and I will look like that guy.
Posted by i'm nobody at 05/12/2009 @ 12:47pm
Antisocialist-It is you that is claiming to be a prophet,although you were rather slick about trying to make it appear that others made the claim for you,but pastors can be slick people.
Posted by i'm nobody at 05/12/2009 @ 12:49pm
Just to re-clarify, could you tell EXACTLY WHO comprised that "body of Christ" and told you, you were a prophet?
Posted by Mask at 05/12/2009 @ 12:43pm
Churches within the International Church of the Foursquare Gospel, Overcomer's Ministries International, Somerhaven Ministries, Lion of Judah Christ Int'l Ministries, Christian Fellowship of Pakistan, American Missionary Ministries, All Nations International, Tabernacle of Hope Ministries, Mario Murillo Ministries, Women's Aglow Ministries International, Full Gospel Businessmen's Fellowship International, and more.
Posted by antisocialist at 05/12/2009 @ 1:06pm
antisocialist-Like with many preachers you play a role for the congregation,but we get to see the nastiness that is in your heart when you come on here putting people down,calling them names,claiming that you come on here to get a good laugh off of your fellow humans,etc etc etc.Save your con game for the congregation.We see what is really in your heart and it is not pretty nor are you Jesus like.We are your version of a gay lover that you have on the side..We know what you are really like because we see you when you are being anonymous and your real self.
Posted by i'm nobody at 05/12/2009 @ 1:14pm
I was a conscientious objector during Vietnam, and it taught me one thing. War is always immoral, and, sadly, there are very bad people in the world making war an occasional necessity.
Peace only comes through strength and that requires a good military. The stronger we are the less likely there will be a war.
We have a military that we paid about 50% of our budget in the 60's for the military, we now pay only about 25%, and we are at war.
As important, we are not alone in the universe. I don't know who is out there, but I would like to be prepared, so total disarmament will never be a good option.
Posted by tomlew at 05/12/2009 @ 2:02pm
Posted by antisocialist at 05/12/2009 @ 1:06pm
So ....MEN, human beings, told you you were a prophet of God?
Posted by Mask at 05/12/2009 @ 2:05pm
As important, we are not alone in the universe. I don't know who is out there, but I would like to be prepared, so total disarmament will never be a good option.----Posted by tomlew at 05/12/2009 @ 2:02pm
Was that last part satirical...or do you think we're going to be able to use Minuteman ICBMs and F-22 Raptors against a race capable of interstellar travel????
Posted by Mask at 05/12/2009 @ 2:07pm
"I have been acknowledged within the body of Christ to be a prophet."
Posted by antisocialist at 05/12/2009 @ 12:23pm
Oh......
my.
Are you a prophet along the lines of Ezekiel, Elijah, and John The Baptist?
Or more along the lines of Joseph Smith, since you two have basically the same credentials of " cause I said so".
Posted by Benchrest at 05/12/2009 @ 2:12pm
Posted by Benchrest at 05/12/2009 @ 2:12pm
Oh Cthulhu! You just mentioned MORMONS....he's going to lose it now!
Posted by Mask at 05/12/2009 @ 2:15pm
Posted by Mask at 05/12/2009 @ 2:15pm
I couldn't help it. I was "told" to do it.
;-)
Posted by Benchrest at 05/12/2009 @ 2:19pm
I couldn't help it. I was "told" to do it.
;-)----Posted by Benchrest at 05/12/2009 @ 2:19pm
Well, it's okay with God as long as the Christian Fellowship of Pakistan or the Full Gospel Businessmen's Fellowship International said it was okay.
Posted by Mask at 05/12/2009 @ 3:16pm
So ....MEN, human beings, told you you were a prophet of God?
Posted by Mask at 05/12/2009 @ 2:05pm
No, I said that G-dly people within the body of Christ confirmed that they agreed that G-d had annointed me to be a prophet.
Anyone who proclaims themselves a prophet, pastor/teacher, apostle, or evangelist must submit to a larger body of review if they want to be accepted outside of a small circle. It is easy to deceive a few, but we tend to weed out the phonies under scrutiny.
I have noted also that I have ministers on my board from outside my ministry to provide objective review.
Posted by antisocialist at 05/12/2009 @ 6:09pm
antisocialist-In other words,humans claim that you are a prophet because God has you make generalized and pointless warnings in order to stroke your ego so you can come on here and proclaim that you are officially considered to be a prophet from God, like you brag about so many other things while claiming that you are only mentioning these things in the most humble of ways.
Posted by i'm nobody at 05/12/2009 @ 6:29pm
antisocialist-I was born and raised in Christianity and called myself a Christian, until a few years ago, and never did I ever think that a preacher would come on here and call people names,put them down,and claim to laugh at them like you do so it is irrelevant what these people you quote think.You are a despicable excuse for a Christian and pastor and God would not pick you for anything.It is that simple.You must be a good con artist in person.Many of you are.
Posted by i'm nobody at 05/12/2009 @ 7:00pm
So ....MEN, human beings, told you you were a prophet of God?
Posted by Mask at 05/12/2009 @ 2:05pm
No, I said that G-dly people within the body of Christ confirmed that they agreed that G-d had annointed me to be a prophet.----Posted by antisocialist at 05/12/2009 @ 6:09pm
So they're "super humans"? Greater and more holy than normal humans?
Posted by Mask at 05/12/2009 @ 7:16pm
So they're "super humans"? Greater and more holy than normal humans?
Posted by Mask at 05/12/2009 @ 7:16pm
Do you find the words "super humans" in my post?
Mask, your questions are ridiculous since they don't come from either a point of curiosity or clarification since you don't accept the premise of Ordained or Annointed people. They are just part of the endless variations of the same questions
Posted by antisocialist at 05/12/2009 @ 7:36pm
"Can you actually post the Law of Probability?"
Yes - Pr(A) = E[Pr(A | N)]
"I won't hold my breath because their isn't one."
I think any statistician would disagree with you. Please see above.
"There is nothing that says anything about a 50/50 chance."
The classical definition states: the probability of any outcome of a random phenomenon is the proportion of times the outcome would occur in a very long series of repetitions. If you flip a coin 100 times, how times will it show head side and tail side?
"Do you live in reality or a parallel universe?"
No, but you do.
"You make something up and act as if you have factual back up to your statement. You don't."
It's so sad that a young person such as yourself got such a poor public school education in California. I'm quite sure every college program in this country requires students to take statistics before they graduate.
"There is no evidence that Russia is going to have a battle with us and Europe."
I never said they would. I said "DISARM" That's a pretty significant deviation from WAR.
"There is no evidence to say that China is going to go to war with India and Pakistan."
And there's no evidence to suggest they won't either, however, should the Taliban keep up their offensive and make it to Islamabad, India will have no choice but to intervene. China will make similar moves because they have interests in Pakistan.
"You sound like you are trying to be a modern day Nostradamus and quickly failing."
Actually, Nostradamus' writings were based entirely on random probablity theory.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/11/2009 @ 10:24pm
Posted by ACook at 05/12/2009 @ 7:54pm
"Uh, ACOOK, not sure you understand what "probabilities" means."
Oh really?! I understand it much more than you think.
"Or do you think there's a "50/50 chance" that you'll suddenly rip off all your clothes, cover yourself in chocolate, and run down the street naked?"
There's no chance of me repeating what you've already done.
Posted by Mask at 05/12/2009 @ 08:12am
Posted by ACook at 05/12/2009 @ 7:59pm
larry, larry, larry:
"Narcissism is a set of character traits concerned with self-admiration, self-centredness and self-regard.
Although everyone has some narcissistic traits, narcissism can also manifest in an extreme pathological form in some personality disorders such as narcissistic personality disorder wherein the patient overestimates his abilities and has an excessive need for admiration and affirmation. This may be present to such a degree that it severely damages the person's ability to live a productive or happy life because the traits manifest as severe selfishness and disregard for the needs and feelings of others."
from qwiki.
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/12/2009 @ 8:06pm
here you go, buddy (seriously):
http://www.ucomparehealthcare.com
/drs/california/psychiatry/Riverside.html
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/12/2009 @ 8:08pm
Posted by antisocialist at 05/12/2009 @ 12:23pm
Moses, Abraham, Ezekiel, Elijah, Elisha, Daniel, Rev. Larry.
Yeah, it fits.
Posted by Benchrest at 05/12/2009 @ 8:08pm
Actually, there is. Ezekiel 38 and 39 and Daniel 11.
Posted by antisocialist at 05/12/2009 @ 09:21am
I don't take the Bible as proof. Just like Nostradmus the predictions are never found until after it happens. Which means most of the time the predictions are probably what people WANT to find not what is really there.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/12/2009 @ 8:56pm
Also, reading the New Testament passage about GOG and Magog, they are 4 countries at the corners of the earth. Or at least hold 4 countries at the time. Last I checked Russia is one country which has broken into many, more than four, and China is one country.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/12/2009 @ 9:01pm
None of the passages you gave names either Russia or China even to a degree Anti. You are just seeing what you want to see in order to justify your dislike of Russia and China.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/12/2009 @ 9:03pm
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/12/2009 @ 8:56pm
Hearing you will hear and shall not understand,
And seeing you will see and not perceive;
For the hearts of this people have grown dull.
Their ears are hard of hearing, And their eyes they have closed,
Lest they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears,
Lest they should understand with their hearts and turn,
So that I should heal them.'
Posted by antisocialist at 05/12/2009 @ 9:08pm
"It's so sad that a young person such as yourself got such a poor public school education in California. I'm quite sure every college program in this country requires students to take statistics before they graduate."
This will be the last time I say this, I went to Christian school and a private Jewish owned college. On top of that. You must not know much about statistics if you are stating that because of that equation there are only two outcomes possible and therefore it's a 50/50 chance. The law of probability that you cite doesn't state that there is a 50/50 chance for everything. Therefore you are wrong again. In order to state the probability of something you have to take into account all of the variables involved. Not just two outcomes. THEN you get the statistical possiblity of it happening. It's not 50/50 always, that's why it is an EQUATION and not just a statement.
Also, it's not the law of probability, it's the law of total probability. And if you had any clue how it worked you would realize that it didn't say anything about everything having a 50/50 chance unless there is only one variable involved, in the case of multiple variable it throws the equation off and it's no longer 50/50.
Maybe you should get a refund on wherever you went.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/12/2009 @ 9:16pm
Hearing you will hear and shall not understand,
And seeing you will see and not perceive;
For the hearts of this people have grown dull.
Their ears are hard of hearing, And their eyes they have closed,
Lest they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears,
Lest they should understand with their hearts and turn,
So that I should heal them.'
Posted by antisocialist at 05/12/2009 @ 9:08pm
Quote all you. I have heard it all before. I was once a strong Christian. Used to read the Bible all the time. What I came to understand is that what most people think of as the Christian religion is too obviously man made, and not of God. Most of the rules set up are rules so obviously influenced by man and not and almighty, all powerful, all merciful being. I have nothing against Christians or Christianity in general but it's not for me. I think it's a beautiful religion, but I personally think it's wrong.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/12/2009 @ 9:19pm
Only in The Nation do so many people beat so many dead horses for so long. It is impossible nor desirable to rid the world of nuclear weapons. Once the genie is out of the bottle or the toothpaste out of the tube - neither can be put back in.
Posted by pyeatte at 05/12/2009 @ 9:29pm
It is impossible nor desirable to rid the world of nuclear weapons.
Posted by pyeatte at 05/12/2009 @ 9:29pm
stupid humans.
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/12/2009 @ 9:32pm
antisocialist-Your Bible quotes are ones that you should take to heart.You are in the wrong place to do your con.We know the real you which is why you keep running from discussing the real dishonest,name calling you.Bible quotes will not help you here.We know the real you and know you to be a fraud. ..Save it for your gullible congregation if you really have one.
Posted by i'm nobody at 05/12/2009 @ 9:37pm
Posted by antisocialist at 05/12/2009 @ 7:36pm
We're back to SEMANTICS? Okay...you say "Godly people with the 'gifted' power to annoint you as a prophet"....
does that not make them SUPERIOR to most other human beings?
Ergo..."super" (I assume they're humans, right?)
Posted by Mask at 05/12/2009 @ 9:38pm
What I came to understand is that what most people think of as the Christian religion is too obviously man made, and not of God. Most of the rules set up are rules so obviously influenced by man and not and almighty, all powerful, all merciful being. I have nothing against Christians or Christianity in general but it's not for me. I think it's a beautiful religion, but I personally think it's wrong.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/12/2009 @ 9:19pm
that's the point the Bible makes. Over the decades as I've served Christ here and abroad, my realization of the fact of Christianity grows stronger. I see the Bible validated as the Word of G-d increasingly, not decreasingly.
And your reference about man is polar opposite of the truth. Man would not invent Christianity. It goes against his nature.
I do feel sorry for you and IM and others like you. It actually grieves my heart that there are those like you in the world who have made the decisions you both have made. As the Bible says in Hebrews 6:4-6
"Some people had light in their hearts once. They knew the gift from heaven.
They had the Holy Spirit. They knew the word of God is good and felt the powers of the next world.
If people who were like that leave their faith in Christ, they cannot come to God again. They themselves nail God's Son up on the cross again. They are holding him up to shame before everyone."
Hebrews 10:29
"Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace?"
Posted by antisocialist at 05/12/2009 @ 9:45pm
It must be nice to get a group together and declare yourselves to be anointed so then you can declare that others are anointed and even prophets.
Posted by i'm nobody at 05/12/2009 @ 9:45pm
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/12/2009 @ 9:19pm
It's a pretty good deal for Larry.
1. He's a REAL Christian, not a "devotee" like most of America, even the world. Ergo other "so-called" Christians are inferior.
2. His friends (who just so happen to believe everything he believes, no exceptions) have granted him special powers of clairvoyance.
3. His interpretations of the Bible and of future events (by that power) are therefore inerrant and true...much like "God's Word"...VERY much like that.
4. Anybody disagreeing with Larry is "ignorant" and "not imbued with the Spirit of Truth".
Yet, of course, he considers himself to NOT be self-righteous nor egomaniacal because he KNOWS that he is right and all his friends tell him he is right (because he tells them THEY're right).
Plus he's "been raised from the dead", "fought demons", and "healed people".
Basically....he's "Jesus".
(Here's where he'd go ape-shit and deny that....but then the question becomes "Okay, Larry, except for maybe walking on water...what's the diff between you and the J-man?")
Posted by Mask at 05/12/2009 @ 9:46pm
Frosties 12:17
"Larry, you're nuts. Get help quickly."
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/12/2009 @ 9:49pm
does that not make them SUPERIOR to most other human beings?
Ergo..."super" (I assume they're humans, right?)
Posted by Mask at 05/12/2009 @ 9:38pm
No it doesn't. It merely makes them carry more responsibility and accountability before G-d for how they responded to their calling.
Posted by antisocialist at 05/12/2009 @ 9:51pm
antisocialist-Actually,it grieves my heart,as someone raised in Christianity, to see that someone as despicable as yourself is a preacher.I'm just obeying Jesus and that is something that you may wish to try rather than allow your out of control ego to convince you of lies that you tell yourself in order to stroke your ego.Every religions teachings get validated by people who believe in them making your statement about that meaningless.Why do you trample the Son of God underfoot and insult the Spirit of Grace if you know that it is wrong?
Posted by i'm nobody at 05/12/2009 @ 9:53pm
Posted by antisocialist at 05/12/2009 @ 9:51pm
Well as Uncle Ben (not the rice) said "With great power, comes great responsibility", Larry.
But you do admit that having the ability to annoint a feller as a prophet is a "extra" power that most humans don't have, right?
BTW, who does THIS sound like-
1. He was born of a saintly woman, though his Earthly father had no real role in his development.
2. His early adult life is "secret" or unknown, but may have involved foreign travel.
3. His friends believed him "special".
4. He fought demons.
5. He healed the sick.
6. He was never wrong, especially about God and what God desired and thought.
7. Those who refuse to follow His teachings are ignorant and doomed.
8. He foretold the future and WILL be proven right.
9. He was "raised from the dead"?
Now, before you answer...add "He sold insurance in Modesto".
Posted by Mask at 05/12/2009 @ 10:08pm
I've been pronounced dead 4 times.What is the big deal about that?
Posted by i'm nobody at 05/12/2009 @ 10:12pm
Posted by Mask at 05/12/2009 @ 9:46pm
1.you keep lying about this. I said that most Americans are NOT devotees of Christ and the polling indicates that fact. There are no inferior vs superior Christians; there are those actually believe and follow Jesus, and there are those who are Christian in name only, not practicing their faith or actually believing.
Jesus asked the question: Luke 18:6-8
"Then the Lord said, "Learn a lesson from this unjust judge. Even he rendered a just decision in the end. So don't you think God will surely give justice to his chosen people who cry out to him day and night? Will he keep putting them off? I tell you, he will grant justice to them quickly! But when the Son of Man returns, how many will he find on the earth who have faith?"
2.Only G-d bestows power, not man.
3.When presidents and kings have you teach them the Bible as I have, then you can criticize my gift from G-d to teach. I didn't ask for it. It was prophecied over me by the head of a global ministry and not by my talents or wisdom, but by G-d's have I done these things.
4.Psalm 105:14,15
He permitted no one to do them wrong; Yes, He rebuked kings for their sakes,
Saying, "Do not touch My anointed ones, And do My prophets no harm."
raised from the dead -eye witnesses
many, many thousands of Christians have fought demons and been faithful to minister believing G-d to heal, not man.
There is only one Jesus. But He promised that we would be filled with the Holy Spirit to move in power and the knowledge of G-d. It is the ungodly who mock what they do not know. The things of the kingdom belong to the children of the King.
Posted by antisocialist at 05/12/2009 @ 10:13pm
Actually, Nostradamus' writings were based entirely on random probablity theory.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/11/2009 @ 10:24pm
Posted by ACook at 05/12/2009 @ 7:54pm
No, they weren't by the way. Nostradamus' predictions were based on comparative horoscopy and astrology. Not probability theory. He looked at the stars and he looked at ancient events for "omens." Again you make things up or misrepresent their meaning to support a lie.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/12/2009 @ 10:15pm
"that's the point the Bible makes. Over the decades as I've served Christ here and abroad, my realization of the fact of Christianity grows stronger. I see the Bible validated as the Word of G-d increasingly, not decreasingly.
And your reference about man is polar opposite of the truth. Man would not invent Christianity. It goes against his nature.
I do feel sorry for you and IM and others like you. It actually grieves my heart that there are those like you in the world who have made the decisions you both have made. As the Bible says in Hebrews 6:4-6 "
How does it go against man's nature? Man's nature is to control the world around him. There is no better way to control people than to create a religion. L. Ron Hubbard agreed, which is why he started Scientology. Religion has been apart of man since the beginning of conscious thought. So it is actually perfectly within the nature of man to create a religion such as Christianity. Otherwise if you presume that it is not in the nature of man then how do you explain all the religions that came before Christianity?
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/12/2009 @ 10:18pm
How does it go against man's nature? Man's nature is to control the world around him. There is no better way to control people than to create a religion. L. Ron Hubbard agreed, which is why he started Scientology. Religion has been apart of man since the beginning of conscious thought. So it is actually perfectly within the nature of man to create a religion such as Christianity. Otherwise if you presume that it is not in the nature of man then how do you explain all the religions that came before Christianity?
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/12/2009 @ 10:18pm
Because no one would create a religion where most of the heroic figures are revealed at one point or another to be utter failures in following their G-d. What other religion reveals all their disobedience and times of rebuke?
And what other religion says that man can never do enough to please G-d on their own effort?
Posted by antisocialist at 05/12/2009 @ 10:26pm
antisocialist-When did Jesus say that believers move in the Holy Spirit and have knowledge of God and who gets to decide who the believers are?The fact that you declare yourselves to be anointed and to be prophets is rather meaningless and we cannot tell any of you apart because none of you can do what you claim.Not one of your verses has any relevance to the discussion because I,and apparently others,do not buy into your claims because it is smart to ignore cult leader type claims,like you make.
Posted by i'm nobody at 05/12/2009 @ 10:26pm
antisocialist-I have medical records showing that I've been pronounced dead 4 times.Not sure what point you are trying to make with that.
Posted by i'm nobody at 05/12/2009 @ 10:29pm
Posted by i'm nobody at 05/12/2009 @ 10:26pm
Again, I'm genuinely sorry for you IM. You are so deceived that you have no idea what Christianity is about or what the genuine servants of G-d do and say.
If I'm a cult leader than Christianity is lost, because my beliefs and actions are representative of both early Christianity and many 10's of millions of Christians worldwide.
I think I will take the word of Christian leaders who have devoted their lives to serving Christ over someone tragically who thinks that they find the truth by turning from the truth.
As such, as scripture said, you will always be seeking and never finding.
Posted by antisocialist at 05/12/2009 @ 10:36pm
antisocialist-Actually,I know far more about Christianity than you do and the Bible,too.When did Jesus say that believers have knowledge of God and who decides who the believers are?It is quite interesting that you define obeying Jesus as turning from the Truth.When did Jesus say that seekers will never find?Have you ever read the Gospels?You have,yet,to get one right about them.And what about your despicable words?
Posted by i'm nobody at 05/12/2009 @ 10:41pm
antisocialist-Genuine servants of God do not come on here putting people down,calling people names,and telling them that you like to laugh at their ideas,like you do.Save your nonsense for the gullible..
Posted by i'm nobody at 05/12/2009 @ 10:44pm
antisocialist-Still waiting for you to back up your claims about the Jesus quotes just as I'm still waiting for you to back up your claims about how born again is clearly defined even though the internet and libraries are filled with different views on the subject.
Posted by i'm nobody at 05/12/2009 @ 11:09pm
Because no one would create a religion where most of the heroic figures are revealed at one point or another to be utter failures in following their G-d. What other religion reveals all their disobedience and times of rebuke?
And what other religion says that man can never do enough to please G-d on their own effort?
Posted by antisocialist at 05/12/2009 @ 10:26pm
Many religions have. According to Greek's the God's were basically jerks who delighted in tormenting humanity.
Buddhism worships a ,for lack of a better word, prophet who started out as a jerk prince and then was brought into the light.
Many of religions heroes were idiots to begin with. Except Jesus of course. Who was perfect from birth. The story of redemption is as old as man.
"And what other religion says that man can never do enough to please G-d on their own effort?"
On top of all that. To me this is more proof that Christianity is a man made concept. This gains you even more control of the people who believe it than if it was up to individuals to gain their own passage. This allows for an even more controlling religion than if you said that it was of your own accomplishments that you gained entry into Heaven.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/12/2009 @ 11:24pm
"Because no one would create a religion where most of the heroic figures are revealed at one point or another to be utter failures in following their G-d. What other religion reveals all their disobedience and times of rebuke? "
This by the way is control 101. If you want people to follow you make them believe they can be you one day. That's why cult leaders in the beginning have a tragic story of redemption through whatever it is they are trying to pedal. You have to make it seem as if whatever you are offering has been attained by people just like them, which is why you make the heroes tragic figures who are then saved through the religion. It makes people think they can relate.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/12/2009 @ 11:33pm
There is only one Jesus.----Posted by antisocialist at 05/12/2009 @ 10:13pm
But except for the "walking on water" and "feeding the multitude"...
you're pretty damn close, aren't ya????
LOL
Posted by Mask at 05/13/2009 @ 08:03am
So now Obama wants to limit nuclear missiles as those who would like to see us all dead seek to get them? He has just compromised the CIA for revenge and his own mantra "I am not Bush", well HE is president and what happened in the past administration is history. The only possible reason for him to release classified information was so that he can look good in his upcoming trip to Cairo and to apologize again for the wicked country that he represents. If photos come out we will see them on huge posters carried by all over the Middle East and we and our troops will be in far more danger than we already are. Our President is supposed to defend and honor our country. Obama is doing neither. He shows no love of his own country with his apology tours for our sins going back to the Pilgrims.I can't imagine any other head of state doing such a thing. It is not presidential.
Posted by Katie10 at 05/13/2009 @ 2:06pm
Posted by Katie10 at 05/13/2009 @ 2:06pm
Katie, we're still waiting on your news sources for your "fact" that "70% of the births in Los Angeles are to illegals".
Posted by Mask at 05/13/2009 @ 2:59pm
Isn't if funny how the more things change, the more they stay the same.
All we hear is how Reagan won the cold war, yet the Ruskies still threaten our safety. They may not be the card carrying commies they once were, but still....
The Chinese are the US's biggest creditor as well as trading partner, yet we need expensive raptor planes 'cause you never know when we might need to kill them.
Pakistan and India hate each other, is this a new development? Pakistan is ruled by the military and probably will be for the forseeable future. Pakistan's nukes aren't for sale or lying around in someone's basement.
Signifigcant change like nucular disarmament is improbable, but to say it's not possible isn't wise or realistic... just cynical.
Posted by koroviev at 05/14/2009 @ 12:40am
As important, we are not alone in the universe. I don't know who is out there, but I would like to be prepared, so total disarmament will never be a good option.
Posted by tomlew
Since any ET's that find Earth will have mastered interstellar travel, our nucular arsenal won't offer much protection.
Why piss them off? Our best option would be to welcome our new overlords and hope for the best.
Posted by koroviev at 05/14/2009 @ 12:49am