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Resonant and relevant words at this moment.
Those words come from March 1933, as President Franklin Delano Roosevelt marked the end of an epoch, and The Nation editorialized that his inaugural words "had something of the challenge, the symbolism, and the simplicity of a trumpet blast."
As Barack Obama was sworn in as America's 44th president, we heard a new trumpet blast. The simple and powerful symbolism of the 44th President's inauguration reminded us, again, of what a stirring milestone his election marks for America's scarred racial landscape---and what a victory for the forces of decency, diversity and tolerance.
More than 2 million people gathered in Washington to celebrate--a sea of people peaceably, happily, roaring, sometimes in unison, to express their hope and anticipation for a new era. It seemed as if towns and cities across the country stood still for this moment--eager, almost desperate for Obama to succeed.
And at just after high noon, Obama-- the first Community-Organizer-in-Chief--took the oath of office, placing his hand on the Lincoln bible. The man who ran by crafting and mobilizing a new coalition of the young,African-Americans, Latinos, and the once- disenfranchised, summoned generations, new and old, to return "to a new era of responsibility." He spoke of service as "the price and promise of citizenship." In somber words, reminiscent of Roosevelt's, Obama spoke of "homes lost, jobs lost, factories shuttered" and the need not to lose confidence.
These are times that demand "bold and swift action" and he challenged those "who question the scale of our ambitions." In decisive tones, Obama stamped government's role with his own vision. It is not a post-ideological one as some argue, but rather one that understands is it only through effective use of government which will improve the actual, hard conditions of people's lives will we able to restore trust in its larger purpose. As Obama said, it is "not whether it is too big or too small, it is whether our government works."
In a muted indictment of the Bush/Cheney era (one whose lasting metaphor may be Vice-President Cheney departing power in a wheelchair), Obama reached out to a world eager to reengage an America committed to the rule of law. "My message to the grandest capitals and to the smallest villages, we are friends to those who seek a future of peace and dignity." He spoke of how "our power grows in prudent use, and from the force of our example. "
And with a tone of humility absent for these last eight years, Obama spoke of withdrawing troops from Iraq, "forging a hard earned peace in Afghanistan, and lessening the nuclear threat." Most powerfully, Obama stated we "must usher in a new era of peace."
Obama's speech summoned all Americans, as President Lincoln did in his first inaugural, to heed "the better angels of our nature." And as he did at Sunday'sconcert, Obama spoke eloquently about the value of creating a community of respect, defined by qualities of "courage, fair play, curiosity and tolerance."
And in summoning generations to engage in a new era of responsibility, Obama wisely never lost sight of government's role and responsibilities. And always imbuing this moment, one defined by hope and fear in roughly equal measure, was Obama's unerring sense of confidence, possibility, even joy. Those are qualities allow people to think they are part of " a nation greater than themselves."
And in very personal words, Obama remembered the struggles of those who fought so he could stand where he did this afternoon.It is "why a man who might not have been served in a local restaurant 60 years ago can stand before you today to take this oath...How far we have traveled."
Ending with George Washington's words, issued at a difficult time in our country's history, Obama appealed to the qualities of hope and virtue that have allowed our nation to survive and endure. It is that endurance--of leaders and ordinary people--that allowed millions to witness the peaceful transfer of power to our first African American President.
Inaugural speeches, at their best, set the tone and offer we, the people, a challenge. It is now we, the people, who must act--organizing,mobilizing to counter the forces of money and establishment power which remain obstacles to meaningful reform. Let us be the wind at the new President's back, to ensure that together we complete the unfinished work of making America a more perfect union.
We can, yes.
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Thank you for all your hard work Katrina.
The angry and sarcastic and apocalyptic posts by many conservatives/republicans who visit this site show me one thing--people like you are doing their jobs well--and that there is real hope. If Obama wasn't a "threat" to do good work -- they'd be sitting back and smiling. They're doing anything but.
Thanks again for the good work.
Posted by urmygyro at 01/19/2009 @ 11:15pm
apocalyptic visions oftentimes do control the thoughts of people who support losers in politics.
comanchenation is just being very typical. if he has to think the world is coming to an end to feel better that his horse lost the race - then let the dog have his bone.
;)
Posted by urmygyro at 01/19/2009 @ 11:26pm
"stuck on the same things" says the professor of victimology ideology 101.
ha!
Posted by urmygyro at 01/19/2009 @ 11:32pm
"He will lay out a kind of anti-politics, venturing--- daringly--- into remaking our calcified tone and culture of work and politics."
Yeah, right...dude's gonna be all about politics...only the ones drinking the KoolAid won't see it or hear it...
"...nominate a more honest politics that might deliver shared prosperity, shared purpose, shared sacrifice..."
IOW "spread the wealth"...socialism...no thanks...let people earn it honestly through hard work and persistence...not by taking it from someone who earned it and giving it to someone who didin't...
Posted by usc1 at 01/19/2009 @ 11:36pm
Does KvH actaully believe this stuff she writes???
Posted by usc1 at 01/19/2009 @ 11:37pm
"not by taking it from someone who earned it and giving it to someone who didin't..."
so you're advocating for the iraqis to pay us back? i agree! enough with us fighting their revolution for them. they want freedom? get it themselves--and give us the billions of dollars sunk into their country back.
Posted by urmygyro at 01/19/2009 @ 11:39pm
"He will - as he did during the campaign- support a more honest politics that can deliver shared prosperity, purpose and sacrifice."
posted by Katrina vanden Heuvel on 01/19/2009 @ 10:48pm
He's every Mob boss' dream come true.
Posted by ACook at 01/19/2009 @ 11:40pm
Yes, I do believe what I write. whoever you are --usc1 or whatever your little name is. My question: why do you even bother to post here. Let me suggest you get off the site--- and stay off. You deserve a world of despair without prosperity, shared or not. Without hope or sustenance. Write something of intelligence or honesty or integrity or get off the base, now and forever. kvh
Posted by Katrina vanden Heuvel at 01/19/2009 @ 11:43pm
Posted by ACook at 01/19/2009 @ 11:40pm
They all can't have a VP who used to run Halliburton!
Oh, sorry - those were honest dollars they fleeced us for in the desert.
mmmhmmmm
Posted by urmygyro at 01/19/2009 @ 11:43pm
Posted by Katrina vanden Heuvel at 01/19/2009 @ 11:43pm
Nice! I like it. (the haters here will say their speech is being "censored" - but, of course--they're more than happy for "enemy combatants" to be held w/out being able to use the writ of habeas corpus--the Great Writ as it's called--the one device that can keep the gov't from censoring a person into oblivion-----but the irony will be lost on them).
Posted by urmygyro at 01/19/2009 @ 11:46pm
I have been very bothered by the number of hostile right-wing posts and have wondered myself why they bother. It's kind of masochistic and certainly pointless. I believe in your sincerity, Katrina, as I'm sure the other Nation readers do. Carry on with your posts at this hopeful time!
Posted by mimsky at 01/19/2009 @ 11:57pm
Our new President speaks with eloquence about solidarity---one that renews and restores the lives of those who work two or three jobs, those who have no health care, those who live without the heat or food or medicine they need.
or shuttles them out of the city so the t.v. cameras don't get foggy.
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/19/2009 @ 11:58pm
with your post name, frosty zoom, no doubt you'd understand foggy cameras. Your visage and breath no doubt makes them foggy....Your senseless and insensitive postings will only fog up our times ahead.... kvh
Posted by Katrina vanden Heuvel at 01/20/2009 @ 12:02am
anyhoo,
certainly better than the offered alternatives.
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/20/2009 @ 12:03am
Posted by Katrina vanden Heuvel at 01/20/2009 @ 12:02am
well, well.
i couldn't be happier that mr. obama is president, considering the alternatives.
nonetheless, there is something wrong with spending $200,000,000 on a party which requires the hiding of the city's homeless.
besides that, i am happy for america.
however, your post is very mean-spirited.
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/20/2009 @ 12:08am
frostyzoom - do homeless people have right to be compensated for losing the rights to their park benches for a couple nights? this isn't an eminent domain issue.
I am sympathetic to the plight of the homeless (indeed my brother was homeless for a while - lost his job about 6 months out of college, no savings, too prideful to admit he had lost his job to his family and friends, couldn't afford to keep paying rent, moved his stuff into storage (except clothes), and slept in his car while he looked for a new job. Thankfully he found one w/in two months (and he was homeless during july, aug, and sept., so he didn't freeze - although a car certainly would have shielded wind--so it's not nearly as bad a park bench).
I doubt you've known any homeless person -- you simply like to harp on the idea of an expensive inauguration being hypocritical when there are homeless people in the world. Maybe you're right, but you're becoming a broken record.
Posted by urmygyro at 01/20/2009 @ 12:09am
i have not insulted you.
i have tried to raise the voice of the voiceless.
what do YOU think of d.c.'s cleansing?
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/20/2009 @ 12:10am
isn't it hypocritical?
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/20/2009 @ 12:10am
maybe i'm right?
so if someone is right, they should just shut up because it is unpleasant?
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/20/2009 @ 12:13am
Posted by Katrina vanden Heuvel at 01/20/2009 @ 12:02am
Humility, Mrs. KVH, is one of the noblest of human traits.
I would not trade one frosty zoom for a hundred of you.
Posted by Benchrest at 01/20/2009 @ 12:13am
frosty--in the range of hypocritical actions by a gov't - moving homeless people from one part of a city to another is not a capital offense--it's not even a misdemeanor - it's an infraction. yes - it's terrible that people live not only w/out jobs, but without a roof over their heads. Terrible. Would it be an amazing gesture if Obama asked donors to cancel a ball and donate the money to the homeless shelters and soup kitchens in D.C. Sure. But I think Obama will do more for the plight of the poor than Bush did.
Posted by urmygyro at 01/20/2009 @ 12:14am
For the past 16 years I heard and read every negative thing that could possibly be said and written about a president. Long before either did something stupid or illegal.
Now the word is UNITY.
horseshit!
Obama is already bought and paid for as were his predecessors.
"If everybody's thinking the same thing, somebody's not thinking."
Posted by bleedingheart at 01/20/2009 @ 12:14am
thanks, bench.
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/20/2009 @ 12:15am
Benchrest - I'll be sure to remember your "humility" comment in the future. Hope not to see any prideful, sarcastic remarks from you on the nation going forward--or you'd be a hypocrite, rigth?
:)
Posted by urmygyro at 01/20/2009 @ 12:16am
Humility is indeed one of the noblest of human qualities. Neither you nor Frosty zoom have it. May we pray, secularly, that we will find citizens and leaders who have the requisite humility to understand the limits of military power. I would posit, however, that humility allied with confidence and joy --which neither of you have, for sure---is a valuable trait moving ahead at any time, especially these confronting us today. kvh
Posted by Katrina vanden Heuvel at 01/20/2009 @ 12:17am
$200,000,000 buys 3,333 habitat for humanity homes.
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/20/2009 @ 12:17am
frostyzoom - you've sent a donation down to a d.c. homeless shelter and/or soup kitchen, right?
or are you one of these who will criticize 'till your blue in the face w/ no action of your own.
talk is cheap brother.
Posted by urmygyro at 01/20/2009 @ 12:17am
Posted by Katrina vanden Heuvel at 01/20/2009 @ 12:17am
I stand by my original statement.
Thanks for proving my point.
Posted by Benchrest at 01/20/2009 @ 12:22am
frostyzoom - next time you want to buy yourself anything that is not necessary for survival - anything but paying your rent and heat and hot water bills and food--surely you have enough clothes to last you a lifetime unless you drastically change weight--donate it to people less fortunate than you.
that's essentially how you can maintain integrity with the harping on homelessness stance you've taken. the people can't celebrate the peaceful exchange of power (with the gov't paying for security for the large influx of people who want to witness the exchange) then you can't celebrate anything either (well - if you're to maintain integrity).
of course - talk is cheap, but this I'd be willing to wager on - Obama, during his presidency, will do far more to help poor people than g.w. bush did.
Posted by urmygyro at 01/20/2009 @ 12:22am
Posted by Benchrest at 01/20/2009 @ 12:22am
I'll be keeping an eye on you benchrest. Hope you don't enjoy sarcastic, prideful brow-beating via keypad - 'cause you're gonna get called out next time you partake.
That will be sweet.
Posted by urmygyro at 01/20/2009 @ 12:24am
i'm sorry, kvh, but you have a profound misunderstanding of what i am.
"Humility, or being humble, is the defining characteristic of an unpretentious and modest person, someone who does not think that he or she is better or more important than others. The opposite of humility is pride."
i only ask that the homeless be treated with respect, that they not be shuffled off somewhere because they can't afford to go to old navy and buy some chinese cotton for the big day.
that the not be hidden so as to not insult someone's pride.
they should be put on the stage with mr. obama and then invited to the biggest party in town.
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/20/2009 @ 12:24am
frostyzoom - it's not a sign of disrespect for the homeless. it's about security (of the mall and the streets around the parade route).
you think homeless people are going to be turned away if tomorrow they get in line and try to gain access to the mall like everyone else?
Posted by urmygyro at 01/20/2009 @ 12:31am
urmygyro,
almost anyTHING is better than the mr. bush.
i am a person of very unpretentious living. i haven't bought new clothes for ten years.
when i find cheap food, i buy extra and donate it to various organizations.
i usually make under $25,000 annually, yet i will donate my last 25¢ at the end of the month if someone asks.
i am able to pay for this dsl connection because i don't buy junk. in fact, beyond guitar strings, i don't buy anything except food and christmas toys for my son.
i buy food, pay rent, and pay my wife's tuition.
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/20/2009 @ 12:32am
you think homeless people are going to be turned away if tomorrow they get in line and try to gain access to the mall like everyone else?
Posted by urmygyro at 01/20/2009 @ 12:31am
that's hard to say.
they get turned away everywhere else.
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/20/2009 @ 12:33am
I am so excited about tomorrow's inaugeration I can hardly stand it. I've waited 30 years for someone to come along in the Democratic party that I felt worth voting for and now he's going to be our next president. Honestly, I thought I'd never see the day happen. This marks a kind of anniversary for me as well. It was during the winter and spring semester of 1986 that I was introduced to the Nation and Pacifica Radio by a wonderful progressive college professor. At the time we were witnessing a horrible time with Iran/Contra, the Reagan administration and the horrible treatment of the Nicaraguan, El Salvadoran and Guatamalan people by their own government or terrorists groups within with the help of the Reagan administration. The Nation kept me well informed along with Pacifica Radio at the time. Back then I belonged to a student group that called itself "Students for Social Responsibility". And, now Obama is calling on Americans to fulfill our Social Responsibility to our people and the world. I honestly thought I'd never hear those words from D.C. It seems we are coming full circle and there is real hope of getting this country back on track and a mindful way. The Reagan and the recent Bush administrations (which involved the same people) are gone, but now I listen to Ron Reagan on Progressive Radio. It seems the upside down world of the last 30 years are finally starting to be turned right side up. At least that is what I continue to hope for and there is plenty of reason to hope in these somber times. Times have changed and I'm grateful to be here as they are changing.
Posted by lltrix at 01/20/2009 @ 12:35am
i feel like the societal version of the lorax.....
and i'm getting in the way of everybody's biggering.
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/20/2009 @ 12:36am
frosty - i'm with you, essentially. i don't like the idea of homeless people being treated simply as in the way, if that's how they were being treated. but i'm sure it's not that simple. the logistics of tomorrow are complicated, and the fact is homeless people do not own where they sleep - they are not being deprived of something that is theirs.
if any homeless are turned away tomorrow who get in line for the mall like everyone else then i will agree that they are being kept out of the area for appearance sake.
Posted by urmygyro at 01/20/2009 @ 12:37am
"I'll be keeping an eye on you benchrest. Hope you don't enjoy sarcastic, prideful brow-beating via keypad - 'cause you're gonna get called out next time you partake."
Posted by urmygyro at 01/20/2009 @ 12:24am
"...or I'll work you over regularly in a fashion you won't come to appreciate, count on it. In the meantime, wipe the slime off your antenna and find a crevice into which to crawl."
Posted by john lowell at 07/16/2008 @ 2:13pm
Threats are nothing new. Both you and Lowell are experts in those and also hurling insults.
Posted by Benchrest at 01/20/2009 @ 12:38am
I'm not threatening you (but thanks fro the comment about being an expert in insult hurling - that's truly a high honor for any anonymous blog).
It's a friendly reminder that I will be looking up at you on your high horse - don't fall off with some prideful comments after stating KVH isn't humble.
;)
Posted by urmygyro at 01/20/2009 @ 12:40am
Washington's Streets Deserted at Bush Inauguration Thu Jan 20, 2005 11:37 AM ET
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Police sealed off a 100-block area in central Washington for President Bush's inauguration on Thursday, turning much of the usually bustling center of the U.S. capital into a ghost town of deserted streets and barricades.
With all traffic except official security and police cars barred from area, one cab driver said it felt more like a quiet Sunday than a weekday.
Buses were parked across streets to close off whole blocks and metal detectors were set up near the White House and inaugural route to check those entering the restricted area.
edit ... "It seems a lot different than four years ago," said Cho, standing with his wife as they set up the souvenir stand. "The streets are all closed. Last time we could drive in, this time we had to take Metro." more ... http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=domesticN...
CAN YOU SAY FORTRESS BUSH? I THINK HE'S MORE SCARED OF FELLOW AMERICANS THEN HE IS OF TERRORIST.
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/20/2009 @ 12:44am
Some critics object to massive fund raising for a lavish party while the country is fighting a war in Iraq and on the heels of the south Asian tsunami that killed more than 150,000 and left 5 million homeless.
Two Democratic congressmen wrote to Bush last week urging him to tone down the festivities.
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/20/2009 @ 12:45am
benchrest - are frostyzoom's last two posts agreeable to you?
Posted by urmygyro at 01/20/2009 @ 12:51am
We realized we could and should go to the inauguration. The homeless had not been cleared from the streets, which is unusual for that particular ceremony, and there were what seemed like a million people packing the streets--it was like a huge block party.
I remember the Clinton's walking. Remember? They got out of their limo and walked to the ceremony, but I couldn't see them because of the crowd.
I was so excited and moved during his speech that I was practically jumping up and down the entire time (I -still- love him beyond reason). That is, when I could hear him over the cheers of the crowd.
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/20/2009 @ 12:52am
am i being mean-spirited?
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/20/2009 @ 12:53am
Bloppy - Please refrain from using obscentities. It doesn't do anything to bolster your argument. If you keep it up, more and more people will add you to their "ignore list" and you'll be bored showing up here because no one will respond to you.
Posted by urmygyro at 08/31/2005 @ 2:57pm
Insults and threats work the same way.
A word to the wise.
Posted by Benchrest at 01/20/2009 @ 12:54am
benchrest - are frostyzoom's 12:44 and 12:45 posts agreeable to you?
My post (from 2005!!!!! that you dug up - wow!!!!!) talked about cursing. If you want to ignore me because you think I insult too much - ignore awwwwaaaaayyyy!
Threat? - I already covered that. I'm watching you - I hope I catch you in a hypocritical post (you know - one where you're all prideful after telling Katrina she isn't humble).
It'll be fun!
Posted by urmygyro at 01/20/2009 @ 12:58am
frostyzoom - I took your last four 12:44, 12:45, and 12:52 posts as straight forward until your 12:53 post.
Were you being ironic with the first three, or satirizing this inauguration, or something? what did I miss? or am i just making something up now?
Posted by urmygyro at 01/20/2009 @ 01:00am
anyhoo,
i'll secularly pray that the homeless won't be harassed by mean-spirited people and that's that.
not another word.
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/20/2009 @ 01:05am
Posted by urmygyro at 01/20/2009 @ 12:31am
UR, Frosty is right. A similar thing happend in Atlanta, but on a much larger scale and they too lied and said it was for security purposes only.
Do you recall the 96 Olympics? The mayor of Atlanta then was Bill Campbell. That lowdown dirty rotten scoundrel forced the homeless onto Greyhound buses and sent them packing with a one-way ticket, many going to the east and west coasts. Many have never been out of the city before and those who refused to leave were put in jail. What Campbell did and now the mayor of DC is doing is a crying shame.
Posted by ACook at 01/20/2009 @ 01:06am
o.k.,
one more.
the same people that criticized mr. bush's behaviour in his inauguration will turn a blind-eye to tomorrow's similarities.
that's all.
on this, i will say no more.
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/20/2009 @ 01:07am
benchrest - are frostyzoom's last two posts agreeable to you?
Posted by urmygyro at 01/20/2009 @ 12:51am
"He says he doesn't owe anyone a "pot to piss in", but he claims to be evangelical christian. Christians, regardless of denomination, if they truly live up to their moniker and follow the deeds of Jesus Christ, believe helping the poor and disenfranchised is duty, and obligation if you want to get to heaven.
You do owe people help oksportsguy, Jesus spent his life helping the poor and disenfranchised. Didn't you just post some parable about how it's easier for a camel to get through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to get to heaven? If there was ever someone who was living proof of that axiom, it's you."
Posted by urmygyro at 08/31/2005 @ 2:43pm
Yup. Sounds like they're agreable to you too.
Posted by Benchrest at 01/20/2009 @ 01:08am
ACook - your "concern" would have credibility if you didn't think any of those homeless who believe in Jesus as the savior of their souls - but who happen to have tattoos - are going to hell.
Posted by urmygyro at 01/20/2009 @ 01:10am
Posted by Benchrest at 01/20/2009 @ 01:08am
Benchrest - much like frostyzoom - I've donated lots of money (for someone of my meager means - I mean, if I'm unemployed for six months I'll be homeless myself unless family or friends put me up for free), and time and effort at homeless shelters and soup kitchens (and not part of any church - not that church sponsored giving is bad, it's just not the kind I've partaken in - and my giving, of time and money - has not and will not be done w/ the hopes of getting into heaven, because I think when we die, we're dead, that's it).
I am comfortable with my contributions - and I am comfortable that Obama will do far more than W. to help poor people.
As far as the christians - they better hope their god is more forgiving and merciful to them than they think that same god will be to gay people, etc.
Posted by urmygyro at 01/20/2009 @ 01:16am
Posted by ACook at 01/20/2009 @ 01:06am
ACook - how much should your taxes be increased so all homeless people can have a home? Let's see you put a figure on it. The high horse is mighty easy to ride--if you were mayor of a city that had a sizable homeless population - how much would you increase the taxes of your residents in order to get them off the streets into their own dwellings (or at least into common shelters).
thank you kindly for your religious concern for the homeless...christ loves you.
Posted by urmygyro at 01/20/2009 @ 01:20am
Posted by urmygyro at 01/20/2009 @ 01:16am
I believe you. Your past posts are consistent. You walk the walk.
However, your posts of long past were much more amiable than they are now.
I liked you alot better then.
Posted by Benchrest at 01/20/2009 @ 01:23am
ACook - your "concern" would have credibility if you didn't think any of those homeless who believe in Jesus as the savior of their souls - but who happen to have tattoos - are going to hell.
Posted by urmygyro at 01/20/2009 @ 01:10am
What?!! What the hell are you talking about. I've never said any thing like that! I'm not Catholic. They're the only ones (besides the Jehovas' Witnesses) that believe everyone is going to hell but them.
Posted by ACook at 01/20/2009 @ 01:26am
alright - i'll try to be more amiable. my apologies.
Posted by urmygyro at 01/20/2009 @ 01:27am
Posted by ACook at 01/20/2009 @ 01:26am
You're familiar with LvLiberty, no?
He's not catholic or a jehovah's witness - and believe me - he not only thinks anyone who isn't christian is going to hell (because to him there is only one god, and that god is a christian god), but that many sects of christianity that interpret the bible differently than the way he does might as well be non-christians - because they're going to hell too.
the thing about you christians is you all center your "beliefs" around the same individual - but you don't even agree with each other. amazing.
Posted by urmygyro at 01/20/2009 @ 01:31am
I wonder, Acook, how many dead American soliders will it take until we decide that it's not worth spending billions upon billions of dollars a year in Iraq? Could that money be used to help the vulnerable of our society? Posted by urmygyro at 10/25/2006 @ 9:37pm
hey, i know where you can find $200,000,000 :+]
o.k. THAT"S it.
hey, how about those steelers?
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/20/2009 @ 01:32am
dammit! one more:
Not Silent Anymore BY KATRINA VANDEN HEUVEL
In 2000, the Surgeon General released a report describing "the silent epidemic of oral diseases" affecting mainly the poor due to lack of access to dental care. Two weeks ago, that silence was broken in Maryland when a 12 year old homeless boy, Deamonte Driver, died tragically due to an untreated molar infection which spread to his brain.
Driver's death has again drawn attention to how very few dentists are available to the poor and working class. In Maryland, for example, only 900 out of 5,500 dentists even accept Medicaid. As a consequence, there is a struggle to get an appointment, and travel time can take as much as three hours for a single dental visit. Moreover, in the case of Driver's mother, according to The Post, "…bakery, construction and home health-care jobs she has held have not provided insurance."
In response to this child's horrific death, Maryland's junior Senator, Ben Cardin, introduced the Children's Dental Health Improvement Act of 2007 last week that would authorize $40 million (less than 4 hours of Iraq funding) to help community health centers hire dentists to serve poor children. It would also help states in increasing Medicaid reimbursement rates for dentists.
<<<>>>
$40,000,000?
small change to some.
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/20/2009 @ 01:36am
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/20/2009 @ 01:32am
frostyzoom - so you're equating an inauguration with a war?
and never mind the drop in the bucket the inauguration costs are compared to the war.
go cards!
and barack will help the poor - wait and see. will he fix homelessness? of course not. but he will help the plight of the poor.
Posted by urmygyro at 01/20/2009 @ 01:41am
i sure hope so.
it's gonna be hard to overcome the fed's inflation hiding schemes (see china)
i wish mr. obama et al. much luck.
we're gonna need it.
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/20/2009 @ 01:57am
hoped for: arz 23, pitts 17
probable: pitts 17, arz 13
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/20/2009 @ 01:58am
¡DIOS MIO!
JACKSONVILLE, FL -- The city's homeless shelters plan to shelter Jacksonville's homeless population in the old Stanton School on Ashley Street for the two weeks leading up to Super Bowl XXXIX.
Patrick Hayle of City Rescue Mission says beds, chairs and extra staff will be provided for the overflow shelter from January 25th to February 7th.
Hayle says the idea is to discourage panhandling and give the homeless a place to go away from the huge crowds expected to flood downtown.
It is not, he said, a way to "hide" the homeless from Super Bowl visitors.
The school, which has been shuttered for some time, is on Ashley Street in downtown Jacksonville.
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/20/2009 @ 02:00am
I honestly don't see a problem with trying to discourage pan handling when a larger crowd than normal descends upon a city. Homeless people don't pay taxes or own property in the city they occupy (and most don't work).
Posted by urmygyro at 01/20/2009 @ 02:07am
ACook - how much should your taxes be increased so all homeless people can have a home? Let's see you put a figure on it. The high horse is mighty easy to ride--if you were mayor of a city that had a sizable homeless population - how much would you increase the taxes of your residents in order to get them off the streets into their own dwellings (or at least into common shelters).
thank you kindly for your religious concern for the homeless...christ loves you.
Posted by urmygyro at 01/20/2009 @ 01:20am
UR, simply puting a homeless person in a home is not the answer. Most of these people suffer from severe mental illness that will not allow them to live independently. They require constant care from mental health professionals. And, unlike treating physical ailments that require yearly visits to the doctor, treating mental illness requires monthly (sometimew weekly) sessions last can last (and more often than not) for many years.
Posted by ACook at 01/20/2009 @ 02:08am
February 1, 2006 · As the city of Detroit prepares for Sunday's Super Bowl, one task the city is undertaking is trying to provide shelter for its large homeless population. Quinn Klinefelter of Detroit Public Radio reports on how the city is throwing a "Super Bowl party" to get the homeless off the streets in time for the big game.
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tampa, here we come.
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/20/2009 @ 02:09am
anyhoo,
THAT'S THAT'S IT.
no more homeless posts.
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/20/2009 @ 02:11am
Posted by Katrina vanden Heuvel at 01/20/2009 @ 12:02am
Humility, Mrs. KVH, is one of the noblest of human traits.
I would not trade one frosty zoom for a hundred of you.
Posted by Benchrest at 01/20/2009 @ 12:13am
DAMN, SKIPPY, Bench.
FROSTY may be a little too ascetic and seems to come off a bit neo-Luddite....but he's got strong principles and convictions and if such a thing were measured...
he's a lot more "progressive" than Katrina vanden Heuvel, and despite what I think is a false argument over "homeless vs. Inauguration costs"...
he's sounding a lot more "liberal" than the Princess of Morningside Heights.
FROSTY is my friend and a noble and honest person....but more than that doesn't deserve that attack.
Posted by Mask at 01/20/2009 @ 08:05am
thanks, mask.
good to have friends in anonymous places :+]
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/20/2009 @ 09:14am
This is a wonderful day for America as we will have a very smart, intelligent young man take office and get this country working again. We have suffered 8 long years of a disastrous administration who have only been interested in themselves and their buddies. Thank heaven that era has gone and the trash has been thrown away once and for all. I hope Nancy Pelosi continues her fight to get Bush and Cheney investigated as they are both war criminals and should face trial. New day and it is going to be an exciting time for this country but we'll have all the negative crowd out in full force today, but that won't dampen my spirits one tiny bit.
Posted by Caj at 01/20/2009 @ 09:15am
" but we'll have all the negative crowd out in full force today "
correction
A different negative crowd.
Posted by bleedingheart at 01/20/2009 @ 09:23am
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/20/2009 @ 09:14am
NP, and if it results in a banning...it's worth it.
I think Ms vanden Heuvel is mixing you in with the Righties who are hypocritically making this "Obama is showing how elitist he is, by having an expensive Inauguration" phoney charge...
when we all know that they wouldn't care a whit if it was McCain and they were spending TRIPLE on his Inauguration...or if the Arctic Prom Queen wore a $50,000 Versache under her topcoat for her Veep swearing-in.
I disagree with your premise, FZ....I don't think a celebration necessarily "takes money away" from the homeless, and I think we often give a lot of miscreants the label "homeless" (like the floating "gypsies" with "Will work for food"...who don't want to work (for food or otherwise)....
but if Ms vanden Heuvel spent a little more time on the blogs, and didn't just deign to grace us with an occasional appearance from on-high...
she'd know that you were a solid, left-of-center "progressive" and genuinely concerned about the plight of DC's homeless and the costs of the Inauguration...and not one of those hypocrites from the Right.
Posted by Mask at 01/20/2009 @ 09:59am
oh, no, you're so wrong!
I believe in the value of civility and tone---while always keeping true to one's core principles. As editor of The Nation, I believe in it is the spirit of debate ---toward a larger good...So, bring it on...the debate..but please consider doing so in good tone and with civil, heartfelt principles. It's the mean-spiritedness of empty debate....without any generosity of spirit--that demeans our posts and comments and depresses me.
kvh
Posted by Katrina vanden Heuvel at 01/16/2009 @ 8:31pm
COMPARE AND CONTRAST WITH;
with your post name, frosty zoom, no doubt you'd understand foggy cameras. Your visage and breath no doubt makes them foggy....Your senseless and insensitive postings will only fog up our times ahead.... kvh
Posted by Katrina vanden Heuvel at 01/20/2009 @ 12:02am | ignore this person | warn this person
A "NEW ERA" INDEED!
Posted by OneVote at 01/20/2009 @ 10:14am
what's wrong with my breath?
i brush my teeth.
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/20/2009 @ 10:25am
i brush my teeth.
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/20/2009 @ 10:25am | ignore this person | warn this person
Try KVH brand. It doesn't fight cavities, rather it is an extremely strong whitener and "breath" freshener. It makes your teeth and smile look "really good."
Posted by OneVote at 01/20/2009 @ 10:41am
Ahhhahhhahhahh
She came from Planet Claire I knew she came from there She drove a Plymouth Satellite Faster than the speed of light
Planet Claire has pink air All the trees are red No one ever dies there No one has a head
Ahhhahhhahhahh
Some say she's from Mars Or one of the seven stars That shine after 3:30 in the morning WELL SHE ISN'T
She came from Planet Claire She came from Planet Claire She came from Planet Claire
Ahhhahhhahhahhahhahh
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/20/2009 @ 10:41am
I would not trade one frosty zoom for a hundred of you. Posted by Benchrest at 01/20/2009 @ 12:13am | ignore this person | warn this person
creepy.
Posted by emile duBois at 01/20/2009 @ 10:45am
I would not trade one frosty zoom for a hundred of you. Posted by Benchrest at 01/20/2009 @ 12:13am | ignore this person | warn this person
creepy.
Posted by emile duBois
A friend will help you move.
A good friend will help you move a body-and ask if he should bring a shovel.
Posted by meathelmet at 01/20/2009 @ 10:58am
let's get real, people. with all due respect, Frosty is a poster who expresses himself here. Katrina on the other hand actually does something to promote her ideals. she has devoted her life and her fortune to the ideals we share.
no comparison really.
Posted by emile duBois at 01/20/2009 @ 10:59am
KVH,
"... He will lay out a kind of anti-politics, venturing--- daringly--- to remake our calcified political tone and culture. He will --as he did during the campaign-- support a more honest politics that can deliver shared prosperity, purpose and sacrifice. And there is my abiding hope .."
I understand your hopes...and as a conservative, not a republican, I too, am hopefull, but I remain realistic..There is nothing new in what Obama wants to promote..just more dollars being spent, thats all.
But you forget or do not understand...
Obama is a product of the Chicago machine through and through..this is demonstrated in his 138 whatever "present" votes, 4 years in the Senate, 2 of which campaiging for Predident, not one bill wriiten but 3 life storys,...
Look at it from a distance.
..Community Organising is not and will not be taken as a resume enhancer for the Presidency by any one out side the far left...
Obama was picked for this job. He is as great a public speaker as Reagan or Clinton..what remains to be seen is his ability to lead, which is an open question at this point since there is no track record of leadership let... I wish him well..and I like him.
His foreign policy might not look all that different than Bush and his spending will be the same as Bush...only 5 times more...
I can't see this a good for our currency or our economy..
we will have to wait and see...
I do agree with you about Frosty, while a harmless gadfly..it would be nice to see him comisurate(sp) abour Canada for a change instead of constantly urinating over the fence into his neighbors yard.. constantly..
Posted by YourJomamma at 01/20/2009 @ 11:05am
"NP, and if it results in a banning...it's worth it."
Posted by Mask at 01/20/2009 @ 09:59am
Amen.
Waiting for the hammer to fall.
If i get axed, i won't be back. Just know I think you guys are the best.
Posted by Benchrest at 01/20/2009 @ 11:11am
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/20/2009 @ 10:41am | ignore this person | warn this person
FZ - this is an example of breath. It's the big picture man.....you know forest for the trees kind of stuff....To wit...
'But it is worth reflecting, after nearly a decade of a failed "war on terror" ----that it was a flock of birds that caused this havoc. Not nuclear weapons. Not conventional weapons. A flock of birds.Maybe this a signal being sent on the eve of this historic inauguration that we need to rethink how we deal with security.'
Miracle on the Hudson by KVH;
contrasted with:
Records show plane suffered previous malfunction By JOAN LOWY, Associated Press Writer Joan Lowy, Associated Press Writer 2 hrs 12 mins ago
WASHINGTON – The US Airways jet that made a dramatic emergency landing on New York's Hudson River last week experienced an engine compressor failure two days earlier, according to the National Transportation Safety Board.
NTSB spokesman Peter Knudson said Monday that the board's examination of the Airbus 320's maintenance records show "there was an entry in the aircraft's maintenance log that indicates a compressor stall occurred on Jan. 13." The compressor, or fan, draws air into the engine.
He said the flight had a different pilot that day, and the board planned to interview that pilot to learn more about the incident..............
Now what was that about "fogging up" our times ahead.
Posted by OneVote at 01/20/2009 @ 11:11am
And finally KVH,
I saw the movie Frost/Nixon...Nixon said something profound at the end to Frost..
He suggested that Frost would make a better politician and that he,Nixon, would have made a better interviewer....
meaning, Nixon was not a socialiser or a social butter fly..he was uncomfortable in crowds with people..he was the last president that was an intellectual, loved the debating of policys, and a policy wonk who went for the job using his beliefs in philosophy and intellect..after Nixon..and Carter to an extent..
it was all PR and celebrety..
our presidents are all celebretys in the same vein that TV anchors are no longer reporters but personalitys..our presidents are becoming the same...
complete with fainting audiences and an inunability to control our urine when in their presence.
ridiculous.
This is what concerns me....style over substance...
and people like Umbryo lap it up. People like USC and others call it out and are vilified for doing so.
Posted by YourJomamma at 01/20/2009 @ 11:14am
But Frosty... we all know you're right... but that is not the issue.
You're being like the overly PC dinner guest... who throws a snit fit when served a sumptuous vegan feast... because all the spices were not certified organic.
Sure... the party is big... but the celebration is needed, as 64,000 posts from you will easily verify.
Thanks for the delicious articles, Kay Vee...
...and please excuse Frosty's excesses... Mr. Zoom just really cares.
Yes, yes... yes we can!
Posted by ttr at 01/20/2009 @ 11:16am
"let's get real, people. with all due respect, Frosty is a poster who expresses himself here. Katrina on the other hand actually does something to promote her ideals. she has devoted her life and her fortune to the ideals we share.
no comparison really."
Posted by emile duBois at 01/20/2009 @ 10:59am
That doesn't make her right in this instance. Far from it.
Posted by Benchrest at 01/20/2009 @ 11:17am
Just a thought...
"May we pray, secularly, that we will find citizens and leaders who have the requisite humility to understand the limits of military power..."
-KVH
If we pray secularly...
who answers? or hears it?
Posted by YourJomamma at 01/20/2009 @ 11:20am
insulting Katrina doesn't make you right either.
Posted by emile duBois at 01/20/2009 @ 12:28pm
"CAN YOU SAY FORTRESS BUSH? I THINK HE'S MORE SCARED OF FELLOW AMERICANS THEN HE IS OF TERRORIST.
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/20/2009 @ 12:44am | ignore this person | warn this person "
It couldn't possibly be that the first inauguration of an African-American President would possibly bring up security issues that wouldn't otherwise exist, would it?
As to the expense of an inauguration, like it or not, rituals still matter. Why don't you tell the many black people watching today's proceedings that this was all too much?
Posted by brunowe at 01/20/2009 @ 12:34pm
Posted by Benchrest at 01/20/2009 @ 11:17am
Emile/JOHANNES is the "Dick Cavett" of "TN" bloggers. Hoping to get invited to the next cocktail party.
Posted by Mask at 01/20/2009 @ 12:38pm
"..Community Organising is not and will not be taken as a resume enhancer for the Presidency by any one out side the far left...
Obama was picked for this job. He is as great a public speaker as Reagan or Clinton..what remains to be seen is his ability to lead, which is an open question at this point since there is no track record of leadership let... I wish him well..and I like him. "
I don't entirely agree with the first. His experience as a community organizer gave him experience in mobilizing the public, and direct experience of the problems of poorer urban communities.
Likewise, the "present" votes are overstated as an issue. This from the AP http://tinyurl.com/ysbmqr states that he voted that way 1/31st of the time; that a "present" vote could be as good as a "no" in some instances because a bill needed a majority of affirmatives to pass.
Incidentally, frosty, any thoughts on Harper using an obsolete relic of royal authority to sidestep the legislature for several weeks?
Posted by brunowe at 01/20/2009 @ 12:40pm
Incidentally, frosty, any thoughts on Harper using an obsolete relic of royal authority to sidestep the legislature for several weeks? Posted by brunowe at 01/20/2009 @ 12:40pm | ignore this person | warn this person
I have been asking this question for weeks. no answer I'm aware of.
Posted by emile duBois at 01/20/2009 @ 12:44pm
Incidentally, frosty, any thoughts on Harper using an obsolete relic of royal authority to sidestep the legislature for several weeks?
Posted by brunowe at 01/20/2009 @ 12:40pm
Frosty is to busy worrying and busy bodying in his neighbors business to pay attention to the crap in his own yard.
He is a pest, like a mosquito, a nuisance.
Posted by YourJomamma at 01/20/2009 @ 12:55pm
JOMAMMA refuses to strap himself into the bra that, by his own accounts of his ever burgeoning chest, he sorely needs. Instead, he poses as some kind of sophisticate burnsihing trenchent insights into the world situation. The results are slapastick:
"complete with fainting audiences and an inunability to control our urine...ridiculous. This is what concerns me....style over substance..."
Posted by YourJomamma at 01/20/2009 @ 11:14am
A couple of things to keep JOMAMMA busy:
1. List all the substantial ways in which Loser-43 and his cabal of neoClown freaks embodied the contrary to "style over substance" and thus improved the condition of the govt and citizenry that they inherited in January 2001.
2. JOMAMMA has reported lucid fantasies about non-existent Senate exchanges between niave Al Gore and a finger waving righteous Ollie North warning drakly of OBL -- a video that JOMAMMA swore that he "saw" in what has become charateristic sickly conflation between reality and childish rightwing fantasies. So, JOMAMMA, why don't you tell us all about that other tape that you saw today in which...
12:00-Barack Hussein Obama takes the oath on the koran and then has John Roberts stuffed into a black van by 6 goons in ski masks.
12:01-BHO addresses the shocked crowd of 2,000,000 assembled before him in fluent Arabic.
12:02-At gunpoint, the audience is forced to get on its knees and kiss Michelle's ass and her radical undergraduate thesis while saluting BHO.
12:03-Executive order demands that all American school children will be sent to madrasses like the one BHO attended, or face execution.
12:04-All US Health care socialized in the same form as that utilized by US armed forces and congresspeople.
Yes, the BHO era gets more radical by the minute.
Posted by PhilMcCrevice at 01/20/2009 @ 1:06pm
Ah, yes, the perfect inaugural speech for Americans of the present age: Plastic, platitudinous, evacuated of substance. And a presidency that promises to be as much: Plastic, platitudinous, evacuated of substance. But not without a touch of the ominous, however: The Moslem world characterized solely as supporting of violence and a restoration of science to its "rightful place". One imagines this latter to be a place freed from the constraints of morality, a utilitarian, Frankenstein's world where the weak are sacrificed in the interests of the powerful. No, this was no Kennedyeseque, New Frontier speech. Neither was it Lincolneseque, or Rooseveltian. It was just the standard pap of 2009 America, consumerist, childish, fantasy laden, and threatening to life. End the cotton-pickin war, Mr. Obama, and end abortion!
Posted by john lowell at 01/20/2009 @ 1:12pm
Phil,
It doesn't matter..Bush is gone...get over it.
My bra?
Didn't you get KVH's memo?
Thats one sick post you've got there.
Posted by YourJomamma at 01/20/2009 @ 1:13pm
Yes, I do believe what I write. whoever you are --usc1 or whatever your little name is. My question: why do you even bother to post here. Let me suggest you get off the site--- and stay off. You deserve a world of despair without prosperity, shared or not. Without hope or sustenance. Write something of intelligence or honesty or integrity or get off the base, now and forever. kvh
Posted by Katrina vanden Heuvel at 01/19/2009 @ 11:43pm
HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA...PMS much? Whattayaknow...I got under the skin of the great pseudo-intellectual, KvH. I LOVE IT..."world without prosperity"..."deserve a world of despair"...Gimmeabreak...what a pathetic response...its obvious she doesn't have the first clue about conservatives, only what she hears from the looney fringe...then again she is the looney fringe...and then essentially tells me to piss off...hilarious!
Posted by usc1 at 01/20/2009 @ 1:15pm
Posted by PhilMcCrevice at 01/20/2009 @ 1:06pm
I heard that Obama just ordered The Nine to ride out from Minas Morgul....
tempted Edmund with Turkish Delight....
is Luke's father....
and that a census taker tried to test him, and Obama ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice Kee-anti!
Posted by Mask at 01/20/2009 @ 1:37pm
Posted by usc1 at 01/20/2009 @ 1:15pm | ignore this person | warn this person
You ARE the looney fringe.
Posted by brunowe at 01/20/2009 @ 1:37pm
YourJomamma at 01/20/2009 @ 1:13pm
JOMAMMA,
Since (unsurprisingly) you are unable to acknowledge or even see when you and your fellow travellers are being mocked as complete dipshits, fully alienated from the Reality Based Community, I would like to know all the occasions on which you protested your fellow travellers when they were immersed in the undignified and hateful spectacle of demanding copies of BHO's birth certificate (etcetera).
Come on, boob boy, tell us all about it.
Posted by PhilMcCrevice at 01/20/2009 @ 1:38pm
Incidentally, frosty, any thoughts on Harper using an obsolete relic of royal authority to sidestep the legislature for several weeks? Posted by brunowe at 01/20/2009 @ 12:40pm
rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
(jr, i hadn't seen your question).
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/20/2009 @ 1:41pm
A rousing speech, full of exhortations & more than a few warnings. Not in the same class as his speech on race last March, but designed for a very different purpose. Powerful delivery.
He seems to have very few illusions about what lies ahead ... unlike the criminal elements now on their way back home, who came in licking their chops at the orgy of indulgence from which they could never restrain themselves.
This much is a huge change.
Now if only he isn't overwhelmed by those around him with other, very different ideas.
Posted by sloper at 01/20/2009 @ 1:45pm
Come on, boob boy, tell us all about it.
Posted by PhilMcCrevice at 01/20/2009 @ 1:38pm
Why should I respond to you at all?
I have come to find you irrelevent and a little silly...
I do enjoy reading your view of a "Reality Based Community"..similar to reading the phone book..
but I would suggest employment as slomething you should try..
It is better for your soul, which desparately needs a tune up.
Enjoy your day.
Posted by YourJomamma at 01/20/2009 @ 1:46pm
"Enjoy your day."
Posted by YourJomamma at 01/20/2009 @ 1:46pm
1 million percent, in fact. Today is non-stop full-body pleasure in the pro-America areas where the Reality Based Community thrives...and far from the miserable hovel JOMAMMA where looses non-stop massive beerfart and or the "garden" where LUVVIE lumbers around angrily with the voice of Jesus "Kill 'Em All!" Christ rattling his skull..
Posted by PhilMcCrevice at 01/20/2009 @ 1:56pm
You ARE the looney fringe.
Posted by brunowe at 01/20/2009
snappy comeback...didja write that yourself?
Why are all the libs so uppity today? They should be out celebrating...I'm surprised by how easily they're rattled...
Posted by usc1 at 01/20/2009 @ 2:14pm
BTW, lest you get down from MAASCH/JOMAMMA's doom-saying....let's remember his track-record on predictions-
"Mask, I never changed my opinion...I still believe she is the candidate...the math? (Remember, she is supported by the teachers unions, is she not?) It doesn't matter..we are talking the Clintons here and the Democratic Party.
Hillary will be it."-----Posted by JOMAMMA at 04/29/2008
Posted by Mask at 01/20/2009 @ 2:15pm
IOW "spread the wealth"...socialism...no thanks...let people earn it honestly through hard work and persistence...not by taking it from someone who earned it and giving it to someone who didin't...
Posted by usc1 at 01/19/2009 @ 11:36pm |
"Earn it"? You mean a CEO actually works 1000 times harder than a cop? Anything that levels the playing field a little for you 'conservatives' seems to smack of socialism. Hell, you guys would privatize govt. too if you thought someone would make a buck doing it even if everyone else ended up getting paid minimum wage. Some great ideology.
Balance is what works. Capitalism that is regulated and watched over so that its excesses are held in-check coupled with SOCIAL services that keep the less fortunate (this means some who have had misfortune and not just 'lazy') from dying of hunger, freezing to death due to lack of housing and healthcare so they don't end up in the emergency room and get charged enough to put them in debt for the rest of their lives. If this is socialism, then more please 'cause the conservative vision has failed miserably. The world hates us, Latin America has turned away, the Europeans mock Bushco, Asians are happy to lend us money since we're suckers willing to borrow it, and the Islamic world has no embraced the Bush doctrine. Add to this the failure of unfettered neoliberalism and the so-called Washington Consensus begun during the Raygun era and we are talking about a defunct ideology of ignorance and intolerance whose best offerings include the likes of Sarah 'braindead' Palin.
Posted by nukemind at 01/20/2009 @ 2:19pm
I have been troubled by much of the criticism delivered by progressives about Obama's choices. While I wonder, myself, about these choices, I am willing to give him a chance rather than jump on him even before he took office. As a community organizer he talked to the people who opposed him and some became his allies. I suppose that he chose people in part because they knew their way around the political scene even if they may have viewpoints that oppose his own. It is refreshing to have a person in the office that can speak coherently and be inspirational. I do think that we need more than that, but this is a start. One thing that bothers me about his speech today was the reference to the people that first settled here: "...For us, they packed up their few worldly possessions and traveled across oceans in search of a new life. For us, they toiled in sweatshops and settled the West...". This statement was very neglectful of what that settlement did to the people that already lived here and what we have done to them since. It was inspirational on the surface, but upon further thought left me wondering what will come with this man.
Posted by gordona at 01/20/2009 @ 2:25pm
Just one thing to say:
Welcome back to Texas, W!
http://rattl.blogspot.com/
Posted by schroed at 01/20/2009 @ 2:43pm
oh my, talk about disrespectful. i think usc1 has really plummeted to new levels. and, his comrade, jomamma, now the real "loon," continues on his path of utter delusion and despair.
can you imagine how dreadful today would have been had mccain won? that's pretty much all the evidence we need to confirm that the real "loons" and "kooks" are not we readers of the nation, or even readers of, say, newsweek or time, but the fringe who now represent the so-called "movement" conservative, though, to be sure, their own direction, is backwards and downwards.
what a mess they've left! now, it is obama's time (and he really is the only one who can do it). i can only wish him, and his staff, good luck and congratulations.
now, let's party!
Posted by darladoon at 01/20/2009 @ 2:49pm
Mask,
yup..I predicted Clinton for sure...
Obama won....
Posted by YourJomamma at 01/20/2009 @ 3:24pm
I am so drunk in this historical event but when I wake of with a hangover some things will not change blackcoptermedia.com will continue to seek your help, I am still unemployed and my house will still go to foreclosure. Bush and Cheney will be free to roam about the country. The war will rage.
Posted by thesid at 01/20/2009 @ 3:33pm
"snappy comeback...didja write that yourself? "
A simple statement of fact will do with you. Any actual display of wit would likely blow out your neural pathways.
Posted by brunowe at 01/20/2009 @ 5:16pm
I personally thought his speech sucked.
Posted by Hipnosis at 01/20/2009 @ 5:33pm
We need only ask these tired old negative posters to sit down, shut up and sit in the corner for the next 30 years. Because the adults are in charge now and we have a lot work to do putting this country back together again after the flying monkeys almost destroyed it.
Posted by CenterLeft at 01/20/2009 @ 5:57pm
President Obama,
Please bring the troops home.
Remember the campagin?
Posted by bleedingheart at 01/20/2009 @ 6:33pm
Posted by CenterLeft at 01/20/2009 @ 5:57pm
Are the adults you referring to the adults who signed $850B of our money over to the banking industry with no strings attached? Those adults?
Aren't they the same adults like our pending Secretary of State and new Vice President who authorized US military intervention in Iraq? Those adults?
CenterLeft, so far the only change I see is a change in perceptions by an electorate hypnotized by rhetoric.
Our trust in politicians is wholly without foundation. The "flying monkeys" you refer to are still seated in Congress and in Obama's cabinet.
The real adults know bigger, more powerful government is NOT the answer. I hope you'll join us.
Posted by freiheit1 at 01/20/2009 @ 6:45pm
I'm surprised by how easily they're rattled... Posted by usc1 at 01/20/2009 @ 2:14pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLQ_6IWdCiw
Just so that everyone can get a sense how easily the republicans can be rattled here is the Tennessee Republican Party Chairwoman Robin Smith:
"Action will begin immediately to address the actions of Rep. Kent Williams," said Smith. "His commitment today was not to Republican principles, but to the blind and shameless pursuit of personal power. He cast his vote for a pro-tax, pro-gay, pro-abortion, anti-gun liberal Democrat to preside in leadership against all 49 of his Republican colleagues."
Andrew Sullivan: "Notice that the Southern GOP is now getting more honest. It has a problem with anyone who can be called pro-gay."
Posted by hdthoreau at 01/20/2009 @ 6:49pm
An excellent editorial. My only reservation is that your statement "it is not a post-ideological [era]" implies a rejection of Obama's rejection of ideology, with which I agree.
An ideology is a set of abstract doctrines, or dogma, that claim absolute truth, as with various forms of fundamentalism. In fact, however, these utopian abstractions are only one side of the truth. Ideologues refuse to acknowledge that reality is many-sided and insist on trying to shape reality according to their single-minded perspective.
A pragmatic worldview, on the other hand, is more tentative, rooted in an awareness that our beliefs are based on assumptions that can't be proven, willing to appreciate the various sides of an issue, and committed to experiment with what works best while consistently affirming key principles.
Posted by wadehudson at 01/20/2009 @ 6:52pm
frei wrote: "Our trust in politicians is wholly without foundation."
where them wmds?
bush wasn't lying though - no chance of that.
Posted by urmygyro at 01/20/2009 @ 7:12pm
Posted by hdthoreau at 01/20/2009 @ 6:49pm
Pro-Gay!
Oh - no.
not the fags!
what a bunch of backwards people we have in the world
Posted by urmygyro at 01/20/2009 @ 7:13pm
"Today I say to you that the challenges we face are real. They are serious and they are many. They will not be met easily or in a short span of time. But know this, America - they will be met. "
Thank you, President Obama. I had tears in my eyes as you said this. These are exactly the words this aching nation needed to hear our leader, our Inspiration-in-Chief, tell us.
Posted by aethera at 01/20/2009 @ 7:17pm
Posted by lvliberty1 at 01/20/2009 @ 7:13pm
Yes, because it's only conservatives that don't want to be blown up by terrorists...
How fucking crazy are you? Seek medical attention.
Obama gives a very lovely and rousing speech. Good for him. As I've been saying for well over the past year, talk is the cheapest thing in the world. Let's see if he can actually DO something.
Although there's not much he can do to make himself worse than the past 8 years of lunacy, short of starting WWIII, and bringing about a nuclear apocalypse.
Posted by TexasFlood at 01/20/2009 @ 7:33pm
Listen up , loser-liberal scum!!! Froth at the mouth, bow down to the Messiah, and soak up this joke of an Inauguration as long as you can, cause the honeymoon will be over very, very soon.....unless Obama goes back on all the foolish, idiotic promises he made to all the moronic sheep that idolize him. Obama WILL govern FAR MORE conservatively than he let on, and he'll do this out of nothing more than SELF-PRESERVATION! If he keeps his promises, he'll replace Jimmy Carter as the WORST PRESIDENT of all time, and Obama is far to narcissistic to allow that to happen. Either way, you looney libs are going to be furious over his predictable breaking of promises, or he'll give you what you want ( socialism , and it'll destroy the Dem. party for another 2-3 elections! Either way, you dirtbags lose! LOL!
Posted by barry25 at 01/20/2009 @ 7:33pm
Posted by barry25 at 01/20/2009 @ 7:33pm
Wow, you're crazy too. Awesome.
Maybe you and LVLIB can go to treatment together?
Posted by TexasFlood at 01/20/2009 @ 7:35pm
TexasFlood - the "seek medical attention" made me bust out laughing in a place where I should have been quiet - but thank you for laugh!
That's why the repubs mentioned 9/11 EVERY chance they got when they ran for office in 2002 and 2004 (and even in 2006 is was still used a lot).
Conservatives like LL buy into the old tired cliche that republicans are good on defense, and dems ain't.
I swear LL types claim to be freethinkers but I never see any evidence of it.
Posted by urmygyro at 01/20/2009 @ 7:40pm
And as far as terrorists blowing people up goes....it would only be fair to hope that those who enable, empower and even defend terrorists, be the eventual victims of the teroorism they foment. Therefore, when we are attacked again, it is my hope that the only victims of terrorism in this country be the very people who allowed it to exist and grow...LIBERALS/DEMOCRATS! Hopefully, there will never be another victim of terrorism again,evr! But we know that is not possible as long as liberals have any political power. Therefore, if there have to be victims of terrorism, I pray that it's the liberals who defend it!
Posted by barry25 at 01/20/2009 @ 7:41pm
"he'll replace Jimmy Carter as the WORST PRESIDENT of all time"
I don't agree Carter was the worst president -- but that's immaterial -- George W. Bush clearly is the unified champ, he holds all the belts------
WORST.
PRESIDENT.
EVER.
Posted by urmygyro at 01/20/2009 @ 7:44pm
barry25 - you need a minute to go release the load backed up in your scrotum?
you obviously need a release - all that tension ain't good for ya!
Posted by urmygyro at 01/20/2009 @ 7:47pm
TexasDUD: speaking of crazy, 140 million dollars was spent on the circus you're slobbering over today! How many poor children could have been given health care, shelter, and food with that money? I mean, after all, Sara Palin is an absolute Diva for spending thousands on clothing, yet Michelle " ugly racist bitch " Obama is wearing a horrendous outfit by a well known designer, and this Inauguration is, by far, the most expensive in history! Now that's CHANGE we can believe in!!!!!! In 2004, the highly conservative NPR made a big issue at the cost of Bush's inauguration, a paltry 40 million, but somehow I don't think the neo-con in the overwhelmingly conservative media will make any issue over an inauguration that cost over 3 times that amout! Now that's unbiased journalism if I've ever seen it!!!!
Posted by barry25 at 01/20/2009 @ 7:49pm
Hopefully, there will never be another victim of terrorism again,evr! But we know that is not possible as long as liberals have any political power. Therefore, if there have to be victims of terrorism, I pray that it's the liberals who defend it!
Posted by barry25 at 01/20/2009 @ 7:41pm
Riiiiiight. Like your crazy conspiracy theorist ass isn't sitting at home masturbating to the thought of an even bigger more Michael Bay-esque terrorist attack happening under the watch of the dreaded "librools". Your game and your line of bullshit is so transparent, I actually feel bad for you.
Because after all, everybody else are terrorist lovers, only YOU know the truth, and only YOU are concerned with the safety of our nation! You know what's even worse than terrorist enablers? Morons on the internet who talk about the horrors of terrorism even though they've never had to suffer through any of the repercussions.
Although I'm sure you were very moved by United 93, you poser asshole.
Is it hard being such a douche bag?
Posted by TexasFlood at 01/20/2009 @ 7:51pm
worst pres. ever? Very predictable!!! I'd give that title to Carter because he was soooooooooo bad, he didn't get a second term. Bush did, dumbass! Case closed, debate over, you lose, what's new?
Posted by barry25 at 01/20/2009 @ 7:51pm
TexasDUD: speaking of crazy, 140 million dollars was spent on the circus you're slobbering over today! How many poor children could have been given health care, shelter, and food with that money? I mean, after all, Sara Palin is an absolute Diva for spending thousands on clothing, yet Michelle " ugly racist bitch " Obama is wearing a horrendous outfit by a well known designer, and this Inauguration is, by far, the most expensive in history! Now that's CHANGE we can believe in!!!!!! In 2004, the highly conservative NPR made a big issue at the cost of Bush's inauguration, a paltry 40 million, but somehow I don't think the neo-con in the overwhelmingly conservative media will make any issue over an inauguration that cost over 3 times that amout! Now that's unbiased journalism if I've ever seen it!!!!
Posted by barry25 at 01/20/2009 @ 7:49pm
Yes because I'm slobbering over the spectacle in D.C. My assumption is you came to that conclusion by overlaying your dumb, crazy bullshit on top of what I said, which in the real world could never ever be confused for enthusiasm.
You're so dumb and crazy you can't even read the information laid out in plain sight in front of your dumb crazy ass.
Learn to read, then we can talk.
Posted by TexasFlood at 01/20/2009 @ 7:56pm
We are spending 3,000,000,000,000 on Iraq, and the right wing is worried about the homeless. Sad.
Posted by Fafner at 01/20/2009 @ 7:57pm
barry25 - you need a minute to go release the load backed up in your scrotum?
you obviously need a release - all that tension ain't good for ya!
Posted by urmygyro at 01/20/2009 @ 7:47pm
I'm sure barry finds it pretty difficult to find the privacy to rub one out seeing as he most likely is in his late 30s, and still lives with his mother.
Although he has big plans to be out of the basement by the time he's 40!
Posted by TexasFlood at 01/20/2009 @ 8:01pm
Tex-ass-dud: I KNOW that Obama has a high tolerance for terrorists!!! I know that the Obama administration is appointing terrorist defenders ( Holder/FALN for example )and if you pay attention in the upcoming months ( you'll have too look hard cause the MSM will hide it as long as possible ), you're going to see the names of numerous appointees that have numerous connections to terrorists. I KNOW that Obama sees no problem and nothing wrong with befriending an UNREPENTANT terrorist ( Bill Ayers )! If any of my closest friends, or family members ever knowingly accepted an oxygen-thief like Bill Ayers into their lives in any capacity, I would disown them immediately. Barack Obama is a piece of shit, you are a piece of shit, and this shallow love affair with Obama will be VERY short lived! Now get out of Mom's basement and get a job loser!
Posted by barry25 at 01/20/2009 @ 8:01pm
Well, let the fun begin.
Posted by Sideshow at 01/20/2009 @ 8:03pm
My second guess is he's in a loveless "conservative" marriage with some fat hag he's been married to for 25 years, and can't find the courage to tell her that he's actually a closet transvestite homosexual named "Candy".
The overwhelming sexual frustration would be a good reason for his erratic and childish behavior here.
Posted by TexasFlood at 01/20/2009 @ 8:04pm
Posted by barry25 at 01/20/2009 @ 8:01pm
And of course your dumb, crazy ass makes the assumption that I even LIKE BO.
How's your child porn collection coming along?
Posted by TexasFlood at 01/20/2009 @ 8:07pm
Posted by TexasFlood at 01/20/2009 @ 8:01pm
holy crap i almost choked to death eating my dinner and reading taco meat all over my monitor breathing again finally
Posted by Benchrest at 01/20/2009 @ 8:07pm
Are the black helicopters after you Barry? Is THAT why you're so frustrated?
Spooooooooooooky!
Posted by TexasFlood at 01/20/2009 @ 8:08pm
That's so funny, I just wrote the same about you!. You're pretty close. I'm in my late 30's, my wife is 27 and hot with a six-figure income, I surf and golf daily, support the loser libs of Ca. with huge taxes, have a beautiful baby girl, and a hell of an ocean view. I grew up extremely poor, went to an all black high school then to a predominately hispanic high school, lived and voted like a loser liberal for most of my 20's, got sick of living off of others and blaming others for my failures, picked MYSELF up, GREW up, accepted PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY ( liberals hate when thoe 2 words are put together )started my own business, started seeing profits after 3 years of barely making it and risking everything ( something libs can't and won't do ), and now I'm pretty much the envy of everyone I grew up with, and believe me PUNK, if you saw ME, MY WIFE, CHILD, DOGS, HOME and LIFE you'd be envious too. But that's really it: ENVY! Libs like you HATE people that are more successful, harder working, more trustworthy, or just plain better looking than you. Since I'm all those things, you can go ahead and hate me or be envious of me because that's just the it is! I keeps it real, my little bitch! That's your new nickname! LOL!!!!!!
Posted by barry25 at 01/20/2009 @ 8:11pm
Oh my Barry. You are now my idol.
Posted by Fafner at 01/20/2009 @ 8:16pm
Posted by barry25 at 01/20/2009 @ 8:11pm
Oh yes, I'm sure you're just livin' the life with your young hot (old and fat) wife in your mansion by the sea (trailer in the woods).
How bout you tell us your REAL story, the one where you stalk young girls on myspace.com and push carts at your local Sam's club for a living? We'll all be impressed by your proficiency in the world of MMORPGs. You've already shown us how adept you are at indulging in fantasy.
I know I wish that I was a mage, how bout everyone else?!
Posted by TexasFlood at 01/20/2009 @ 8:17pm
Libs like you HATE people that are more successful, harder working, more trustworthy, or just plain better looking than you.
Posted by barry25 at 01/20/2009 @ 8:11pm
Where did I say I was a "lib" again? I'm assuming that's dumbass shorthand for "liberal", right? How did you come to that conclusion?
Trust me "boy", there is not much liberal about me. I was running my own successful business while your dumb, crazy ass was still beating off to your mom's Lane Bryant catalogs in between Dungeons and Dragons sessions.
Maybe in your dumb, crazy world, liberal means "somebody who expects their government not to lie cheat and steal". In that case, call me John Q. Liberal.
Posted by TexasFlood at 01/20/2009 @ 8:23pm
holy crap i almost choked to death eating my dinner and reading taco meat all over my monitor breathing again finally
Posted by Benchrest at 01/20/2009 @ 8:07pm
Please don't choke to death, that would be painful.
Posted by TexasFlood at 01/20/2009 @ 8:24pm
Barry - what does your business sell?
Posted by urmygyro at 01/20/2009 @ 8:25pm
AN UNPRECEDENTED INAUGURATION This one was unique in many ways.
http://greensrealworld.blogspot.com/2009/01/january-20-2009.html
Posted by TheHistorian at 01/20/2009 @ 8:26pm
Although, Barry, I'm sorry it took you three years to see a profit. I unlike you, was never afforded the luxury of wiling away my 20s acting like a liberal-hippie-douche. I most certainly have never been allowed three years of being in the red. I imagine it must have been difficult for somebody as dense and weak-willed as yourself to come up with a decent business plan.
Must have been nice though!
Posted by TexasFlood at 01/20/2009 @ 8:28pm
Barry - what does your business sell?
Posted by urmygyro at 01/20/2009 @ 8:25pm
Bullshit, of course!
Can't you tell?
Posted by TexasFlood at 01/20/2009 @ 8:29pm
Or maybe he farms World of Warcraft gold and sells it to teenagers for a profit.
I hear that's very popular these days.
Posted by TexasFlood at 01/20/2009 @ 8:30pm
I really only have one little problem with your article Katrina, you and many on the left speak of tolerence of others a great deal but your actions show time and again that what you truley mean is tolerence for like minded people, I see no tolerence from the left for a different opinon on issues like abortion, global warming,universal health care, homosexual marriage,immigration, and a host of other issues, to often people who's upbringing and life experience put them on opposing sides of those issues are villified, cursed and condemed, regaurded as racist, homophobic, iggnorant, nazi and fascist, where is the tolerence to other ways of thought which you all so passionately refer.
Posted by scott63 at 01/20/2009 @ 8:31pm
Excelsior!
Posted by TexasFlood at 01/20/2009 @ 8:31pm
I really only have one little problem with your article Katrina, you and many on the left speak of tolerence of others a great deal but your actions show time and again that what you truley mean is tolerence for like minded people, I see no tolerence from the left for a different opinon on issues like abortion, global warming,universal health care, homosexual marriage,immigration, and a host of other issues, to often people who's upbringing and life experience put them on opposing sides of those issues are villified, cursed and condemed, regaurded as racist, homophobic, iggnorant, nazi and fascist, where is the tolerence to other ways of thought which you all so passionately refer.
Posted by scott63 at 01/20/2009 @ 8:31pm
That's a pretty ridiculous standard to uphold since that hypocritical attitude is MORE than evident on all sides of the political spectrum.
Posted by TexasFlood at 01/20/2009 @ 8:33pm
Looks like a virtual bar brawl here tonite. A few good laughs in there though.
Posted by freiheit1 at 01/20/2009 @ 8:34pm
Maybe if there were fewer racist, homophobic, ignorant assholes in the world, we could spend more of our collective time resolving the previously mentioned issues?
Posted by TexasFlood at 01/20/2009 @ 8:35pm
Funny! When I was a weak, whiney, sheltered liberal idiot, I would have gotten very upset with the derogatory statements being made about my wife , I might get mad and retaliate. But, something funny happens to a man when he grows up, takes charge of his life, makes something of himself and then looks back at those who chose to continue blame other's for thier problems and wallow in their own self-pity! I laugh! It does not affect me! Because, I KNOW I'm the envy of libs everywhere! My life is great!!!! My wife and I have done it all ourselves! How empowering is that? It didn't "take a village" for us to be successful individuals, it only took us! My wife is the oldest of 3 kids. She is, by far, the most successful in the family! The other 2, liberals! 1 is 25, still living at home, blaming GW BUSH, smokin' pot and playing video games!!!!! The other works for a non-profit group ( liberal scum ) has had numerous visits to rehab and jail, and spends most of her time blaming Bush for EVERYTHING while her sister and I are making money and livin' the dream! If I took all my liberal friends and compared their lives to those of all the conservatives that I know, it would be laughable. There is no comparison. Liberals are losers, I'm a winner, and you're just mad about it!!!!
Posted by barry25 at 01/20/2009 @ 8:36pm
Looks like a virtual bar brawl here tonite. A few good laughs in there though.
Posted by freiheit1 at 01/20/2009 @ 8:34pm
Sorry I've had to deal with all the pent up frustration of dealing with the past few days of ridiculousness here in our nation's capital! I think I need to hear one more time how things are going to be so different before I actually assault somebody physically!
I'm going to have leave Barry to his own creepy inventions though, have to go to the gym before it gets too late.
Posted by TexasFlood at 01/20/2009 @ 8:38pm
The fact remains TexasFlood it is mostly the left which preaches tolerence, so it is they that must be held to a higher account or keep silent.
Posted by scott63 at 01/20/2009 @ 8:38pm
Posted by barry25 at 01/20/2009 @ 8:36pm
Whatever you say youngin'!
Have fun writing on your blog about your fat, ugly wife and deviant children.
Anytime you'd like to discuss the real world (y'know, the real world where mommy and daddy can't bail us out of three years of a flagging and seemingly poorly run business), I'm sure we can continue this little confrontation!
Posted by TexasFlood at 01/20/2009 @ 8:40pm
Racist : " white man's greed runs a world in need" Barack Obama. Homophobic : blacks and latinos "overwhelmingly" voted against gay marraige. Ignorant: americans voted for a racist, lying, America-hating, terrorist sympathizer in the foorm of Barck Osama! You're right, "MYLITTLEBITCH", If there WERE fewer racist, homophobic, ignorant assholes out there, maybe we'd actually have something to celebrate today! Maybe you're finally coming around to sanity after all, MYLITTLEBITCH!
Posted by barry25 at 01/20/2009 @ 8:43pm
Posted by scott63 at 01/20/2009 @ 8:38pm
Pardon?
Since when is it "mostly the left" that's preaching tolerance while secretly being intolerant?
Would that therefore mean that the "mostly the right" is preaching intolerance while secretly being tolerant?
While not really identifying with either the left or the right, I like to preach tolerance for those aspects of human life that are beyond the control of said humans. Stupid opinions, bad ideas, and general idiocy is pretty much indefensible.
Posted by TexasFlood at 01/20/2009 @ 8:44pm
MYLITTLEBITCH seems like a tough guy (ha!). So, I was man enough and proud enough of myself to give you a little personal history! Do you have the sack to do the same? Hell no, pedophile! You won't, cause you're embarrassed of who you are and I don't blame you, MY Little BITCH!
Posted by barry25 at 01/20/2009 @ 8:46pm
Posted by barry25 at 01/20/2009 @ 8:43pm
And the best you can come up with, is calling me a bitch? Isn't it hilarious how everyone's a tough guy on the internets? You sound like the little boys on XBOX live, all talk, and no walk.
Through the years, I've found that ultra-aggressive, frustrated, angry and ignorant spewings on the internets are almost ALWAYS symptoms of a depressing home life. People like yourself love to go around posting about how great their lives are, while sharing all sorts of personal information supporting these myths, in order to give themselves just five or ten minutes solace from their sad and pointless existence.
Trust me when I say, I only hope things get better for you, and I hope that you find the strength and resolve needed to overcome your rough situation. Maybe during your journeys, you'll also discover a shred of maturity and even learn how to be honest with yourself.
Posted by TexasFlood at 01/20/2009 @ 8:49pm
MYLITTLEBITCH seems like a tough guy (ha!). So, I was man enough and proud enough of myself to give you a little personal history! Do you have the sack to do the same? Hell no, pedophile! You won't, cause you're embarrassed of who you are and I don't blame you, MY Little BITCH!
Posted by barry25 at 01/20/2009 @ 8:46pm
Awww, and he's so stupid that he has to reuse somebody else's insults : (
Saaaad.
Posted by TexasFlood at 01/20/2009 @ 8:50pm
Correction: You were man enough and proud enough to do what? Ramble on and on about your "accomplishments" on the internet?
LOLOL
I, unlike you, don't feel the need to compensate for my inadequacies as a man by lying to people on the internet.
Sorry :-\
Posted by TexasFlood at 01/20/2009 @ 8:54pm
I personally wouldn't want to extend any personal information on the internets, especially to conspiracy theorist stalkers like yourself.
I have a little more respect for the safety of my family than that, especially with lunatics like yourself running about.
Posted by TexasFlood at 01/20/2009 @ 8:55pm
barry25 - what does you business sell?
Posted by urmygyro at 01/20/2009 @ 8:56pm
So, Barry, would you like to explain to all of us how you supported yourself through three years of non-profit? Because that is a marvel, I'd love to hear about it...that would pretty much cripple anybody who isn't independently wealthy to begin with...
You wouldn't just be....making it up as you go along, would you?
It's okay, it's pretty tempting to lie on the internet, so much anonymity for you to hide behind...
Posted by TexasFlood at 01/20/2009 @ 8:58pm
Do you have a benefactor? Your own personal Magwitch protecting you from failure?
Posted by TexasFlood at 01/20/2009 @ 9:00pm
TexasFlood - a business can not be "profitable" but the owner(s) still have income.
I don't know how you're using the word "profitable" - but one of my best friends is a co-owner of an indoor batting cage that has an infield. They were not "profitable" for the first 4 and 1/2 years. Business owner - especially start-ups, have to borrow money for capital - the way my friend used the term, they weren't "profitable" until they had built up the cash flow that they were able to pay off bank loans and have enough to re-invest in their business.
Not trying to defend barry25, by the way.
Also - barry25- you haven't answered. What does you business do/sell?
Posted by urmygyro at 01/20/2009 @ 9:12pm
FROSTY may be a little too ascetic and seems to come off a bit neo-Luddite....
Posted by Mask at 01/20/2009 @ 08:05am
i bet my computer is better than yours :=[
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/20/2009 @ 9:27pm
I hope Nancy Pelosi continues her fight to get Bush and Cheney investigated
Posted by Caj at 01/20/2009 @ 09:15am
you are dreaming in technicolour.
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/20/2009 @ 9:28pm
I disagree with your premise, FZ....I don't think a celebration necessarily "takes money away" from the homeless
Posted by Mask at 01/20/2009 @ 09:59am
i never said 'that'.
what i'm saying is it's hypocritical to say "sacrifice and/or solidarity" when.......
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/20/2009 @ 9:31pm
I do agree with you about Frosty, while a harmless gadfly..it would be nice to see him comisurate(sp) abour Canada for a change instead of constantly urinating over the fence into his neighbors yard.. constantly..
Posted by YourJomamma at 01/20/2009 @ 11:05am
well, we all know the u.s. has NEVER meddled in canada's (or anybody else's, for that matter) affairs.
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/20/2009 @ 9:33pm
Forty-four percent (44%) of U.S. voters now say long-term planetary trends are the cause of global warming, compared to 41% who blame it on human activity.
Posted by HAPPYLonghorn at 01/20/2009 @ 11:37am
you mean the same people who can't find kansas on a map?
or the ones who voted for bush -- TWICE!?
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/20/2009 @ 9:36pm
As to the expense of an inauguration, like it or not, rituals still matter. Why don't you tell the many black people watching today's proceedings that this was all too much?
Posted by brunowe at 01/20/2009 @ 12:34pm
super cheesy.
not your comment, the whole deal today.
i bet some black people would prefer a cut of the $200000000000000000000 and see a smaller show.
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/20/2009 @ 9:39pm
Frosty is to busy worrying and busy bodying in his neighbors business to pay attention to the crap in his own yard.
He is a pest, like a mosquito, a nuisance.
Posted by YourJomamma at 01/20/2009 @ 12:55pm
as we all know, america would never interfere in another country.......
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/20/2009 @ 9:41pm
PMS much?
Posted by usc1 at 01/20/2009 @ 1:15pm
crass.
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/20/2009 @ 9:43pm
frosty - how does canada transfer power? do they have any inaugural balls or anything that costs money?
Posted by urmygyro at 01/20/2009 @ 9:44pm
Palin. Posted by nukemind at 01/20/2009 @ 2:19pm
well written.
thank you.
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/20/2009 @ 9:46pm
The real adults know bigger, more powerful government is NOT the answer. I hope you'll join us. Posted by freiheit1 at 01/20/2009 @ 6:45pm
nope.
smarter, smaller and peaceful.
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/20/2009 @ 9:49pm
oh, and nicer.
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/20/2009 @ 9:49pm
I'd give that title to Carter because he was soooooooooo bad, he didn't get a second term.
Posted by barry25 at 01/20/2009 @ 7:51pm
maybe because st. ronnie got in bed with the mullahs.
squeak, squeak, squeak......
Posted by frosty zoom at 01/20/2009 @ 9:54pm
I am 68 and have seen more presidents come and go than most. I felt the same exhuberance when Reagan took office in 1981 and Bill Clinton took office in 1993 that people are demonstrating today. It didn't take long for the exhuberance to fade away. I hope things will be different this time, but I'm waiting to see what gets done.
Posted by jsens at 01/20/2009 @ 10:00pm
Posted by urmygyro at 01/20/2009 @ 9:12pm
I mean profitable in the sense that you make money on top of your bills, even if your bills include paying off business loans. As an entrepreneur in my own right, I've had to take out several small business loans, although those loans have never been outstanding for as long as three years...I suppose that is an exception, but I've been blessed with good fortune in my various business ventures. Not jesus-blessed, just regular blessed.
But seriously, feel free to defend Barry, there will be no love lost, I was just being argumentative for the sake of being argumentative. Typically, truly successful people don't feel the need to brag about their lives on an internet blog, which is why I'm working on the assumption that Barry is 19 and still lives at home.
Posted by TexasFlood at 01/20/2009 @ 10:05pm
"My second guess is he's in a loveless "conservative" marriage with some fat hag he's been married to for 25 years, and can't find the courage to tell her that he's actually a closet transvestite homosexual named "Candy".
Posted by TexasFlood at 01/20/2009 @ 8:04pm
Texasflood you are a very mean-spirited and shallow person. Verbally attacking someone's family shows you have poor debating skills. There was absolutely no reason for you to go there. Barry25 never debased your family, not once, and yet you felt it par the course. Something is truly wrong with you. Even that crazy old coot Emile Dubois wouldn't verbally attack someone's else family because he couldn't hold is own in a debate. You ought to be ashamed of yourself!
Posted by ACook at 01/20/2009 @ 10:10pm
Nice words.
Notice the stock market today? While it is not Obama's fault, please note that all the rhetoric and hope and promise of socialism and Bush bashing did not make it go up.
Now comes the reality. You have set this guy up for a big, big fall. The sad thing is, he (and the NYT crowd) really believe the change mantra. World peace....love and Marxism.
Posted by nonlocal at 01/20/2009 @ 10:15pm
Posted by ACook at 01/20/2009 @ 10:10pm
Oh no!
I offended the sensibilities of a Nation blog denizen!
LOL!
He's a mindless twat, I could care less about him, his alleged family, or how I make him feel. When you decide to run your mouth like an idiot, you open yourself to all sorts of ad hominem attacks. C'est la vie! I'm sure he'll find a way to make it through the night.
Not to be too harsh towards you of course.
One love!
Posted by TexasFlood at 01/20/2009 @ 10:18pm
And I would really be curious as to what exactly Barry was "debating" as you put it.
I didn't see much resembling an argument, just blathering about nothing.
Posted by TexasFlood at 01/20/2009 @ 10:20pm
Posted by TexasFlood at 01/20/2009 @ 10:20pm
Texas, it doesn't matter if he debated, argued, or came off as a blathering fool to you, there was no reason for you to make a vicious attack like that.
Posted by ACook at 01/20/2009 @ 10:30pm
He's a mindless twat, I could care less about him, his alleged family, or how I make him feel. When you decide to run your mouth like an idiot, you open yourself to all sorts of ad hominem attacks. C'est la vie! I'm sure he'll find a way to make it through the night.
Not to be too harsh towards you of course.
One love!
Posted by TexasFlood at 01/20/2009 @ 10:18pm
My dear, we get very few mindless individuals on this blog (Reese and Plunger, now Thesid). But, Barry25 isn't one of them. He's been posting here for quite sometime. Even before you came along. Like the rest of us, he has his quirks and rants depending on the type of thread that's put out there.
Posted by ACook at 01/20/2009 @ 10:38pm
Some people have criticized the speech as being too somber, almost scolding, in tone. If that's your reaction, consider that children seldom like being told to put their toys away. This country is in trouble because too many people like all the goodies that attend freedom and citizenship, but run like Hell from the responsibility side of the coin.
The party's over, people. Get to work. It'll do you - and everybody else - good.
Posted by mark_proulx at 01/20/2009 @ 11:01pm
It's about time we had something to celebrate.
Thank you Katrina for all you and the people at The Nation have done. It's been one hell of a ride, on we go into the future, with a Captain at the helm who knows what he's doing.
What a great day!
Posted by rasputin195 at 01/20/2009 @ 11:10pm
The tone from the conservatives who post here is nothing short of depressing...I'm a fan of open discussion, but the anger is sad...
Posted by dekist at 01/21/2009 @ 12:17am
Does KvH actaully believe this stuff she writes???
Posted by usc1 at 01/19/2009 @ 11:37pm
Do you believe any of the nonsensical drivel you post? Or more importantly, do you research any of it? Socialist? Every time one of you on the right try to throw that around, you expose your ignorance of socialism, of capitalism, of politics. You expose your bitterness as well. You and your pals on the right - you poor, pathetic, twisted, ignorant tools - have been rightly relegated to the dustbin of history by a nation that has seen through you, that has gotten pretty damned tired of your support of anti-American tyrants, corporations, and causes, here and abroad. That includes the utterly moronic Barry25, by the way, whose ability to put together a coherent thought is apparently non-existent. So here's a thought for you, Barry - regarding terrorists, we WERE attacked again. On your guy Bush's watch. The first WTC terrorists are, as you know, in prison. Terrorism has prospered under Bush and his syncophants like you.
Posted by jmusolino at 01/21/2009 @ 01:20am
As an Englishman I´ve followed this presidential race with interest. Obama is no magician, he and any thinking person knows that, especially with what 8 years of Bush have left him! He is definately more savvy with dealing with the rest of the world though and realises the US needs friends. This is something I´ve missed in the last administrations view on the world. You can´t go around ignoring or bullying nations who finance you way of life. You guys are at a conservative estimate $1.2 trillion in debt, roughly $800 Billion of this money comes from Europe, Asia and the middle East!
Posted by PeteUK at 01/21/2009 @ 05:54am
I speak as subscriber from abroad (Italy). Even if I'm not an American, I couldn't help feeling very proud listening Obama's words yesterday because I think they really reflect the world's expectations and hopes that have been ignored and frustrated for too many years. As European (and especially considering the very poor political situation here in Italy) I dream that this great,new wave of fresh change could reach us as soon as possible. We all really need it...so thanks Barack again and good luck for everything!!!
Posted by Enrico at 01/21/2009 @ 07:07am