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RedditWith an unprecedented number of youth voters participating in the Democratic primary this season, Anna Martínez--the Democratic National Committee's Deputy Political Director for Voter Protection-- says, "We must be aware of the voting rights issues that are disproportionately affecting young voters."
The party also needs to be aware of these issues because young voters--largely due to the success of the Obama campaign--have become a vital part of the Democratic base. Indeed a new survey by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press shows young people aligning with Democrats over Republicans by 58 to 33 percent--more than twice the 11-point gap that existed in 2004. The numbers suggest that this election could be a realignment that increases the Democratic majority in Congress, helps win the presidency, and continues the power shift at the state and local levels.
In the lead-up to today's Indiana and North Carolina primaries, I spoke with Martínez about what the DNC is doing to harness student energy and protect their votes. She told me that young voters are often adversely impacted by election administration issues, "whether it's inadvertent, failure of election officials to plan well, poor poll worker training – or in some cases, deliberate obstacles…. These issues all reflect the need for our Youth Voting Rights Institute (YVRI)." Given what we know about past efforts to tamp down student participation, it's clear that the YVRI has a vital role to play in fighting back against any efforts to curb youth enthusiasm.
Certainly the Supreme Court's decision to uphold Indiana's regressive voter ID law is one thing that will keep students from the polls. Under this law, a student at a state university may be able to use school identification in order to vote, but a student at a private institution such as Notre Dame will not. An out of state driver's license along with an in-state utility bill won't suffice either, as it would in most states. Many students who had successfully registered will be turned away today when they learn that their identification doesn't cut it. It's likely that others who had planned on voting but are now aware of the new restrictions simply won't show up.
"We're also concerned about how this will play out in other states in the general election," Martínez said. "We want to make sure that this is not confused in other states as the law of the land. What often happens is – there's so much confusion around these things – we could easily see another state's poll workers thinking they have to ask for photo ID when that's not the case. So, we have to be vigilant in attending poll worker training and actually being there on Election Day to make sure they are not requiring ID."
Martínez pointed to Missouri in 2006, where the State Supreme Court struck down the ID requirement but there will still signs posted in numerous precincts on Election Day that read, "Must Show Photo ID."
"One of the things that's disheartening is to see these obstacles that are put up to first-time voters by official government entities… where it's clear that they are trying to make voting more difficult, which is the exact opposite of what our legislators try to do," she said.
In Missouri this year, Secretary of State Robin Carnahan is using her website to lay out the voting requirements for all first-time and student voters very clearly in a manner that encourages participation. In contrast, Indiana Secretary of State Todd Rokita's site"basically discourages out-of-state students from trying to vote in Indiana," Martínez said.
The YVRI is working with both College Democrats of America and the National Democratic Law Students Council http://www.lawschooldems.org/ to make sure that students are aware of the opportunities they have to vote. In the past, there have been misinformation campaigns on campuses regarding polling places, hours, even the day for voting. In 2007, an incumbent councilmember tried to tell Georgia Southern University students they would lose financial aid if they voted, and automated phone calls misinformed them that their votes wouldn't count. These student groups are also working on long-term legislative solutions to expand access to the polls through such measures as early voting and same-day registration.
"At the rates youth have been participating – and the problems in the past – we have to be on top of all of these issues," Martínez said. "Right down to the allocations of voting machines, where you have these enormous lines in college precincts and at on-campus polling places, that's something that we really want the local election officials to be considering. Because we really want to make sure that they are planning appropriately – that they will be prepared for a much larger turnout even than in 2004. The rumblings we hear are that they really aren't upping the number of machines and the allocation of machines…. We just don't want to see a massive breakdown on Election Day this year because they've grossly underestimated participation. Columbus, Ohio, 2004 – that was a gross underestimation of turnout – that's why you had that complete breakdown with lines that were up to 7 hours long."
Martínez told me that these efforts to educate and protect youth voters are also a key part of Governor Dean's 50-State Strategy – the Chairman's commitment to building the party so that it successfully competes in places it hasn't in the past. "For a lot of college students and young voters, this will be their first time voting," she said. "Governor Dean has made voter protection – including for young people – a top priority…. We want to make sure that their first experience voting is a positive one, so that they are able to register, go to the polls or vote absentee, and have that vote be counted."
Youth voters serving as poll workers can also help ensure that these new votes are counted.
"The big thing is voter education and the training of poll workers – or the lack thereof," Martínez said. "We want young voters to be directly participating in the process and signing up to work the polls. I can't emphasize enough how important that is."
Despite the Hoosier state's opposition to real voting rights, today we're likely to see a continuation of young people's stunning mobilization, turnout, and enthusiasm in the Indiana and North Carolina primaries.
You could give the voters the key to the executive washroom, but I'll bet they still can't figure out how to lav their hands.
The fix is in. The rest is only waiting.
Posted by goyadad at 05/6/2008
nice entry, KVH...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 05/6/2008
Didn't Cora Currier "hint" that the "youth vote" was going to give Pennsylvania to Obama a while back?!!??!
Posted by Mask at 05/6/2008
The so-called "youth" vote is totally overrated. I hope the Dem. party and Obama are not counting on the youth vote to get them the White House this year. Young people are great for turning out to social events, like campaign rallies, but when it comes time to actually do what is necessary they are nowhere to be found. And this hype about "disenfranchisement" is almost hilarious. Basically you are saying that young people are too stupid to figure out how to vote. This seems to be true of quite a number of Democrat constituencies who cannot figure out how to register, how to find their polling place, how to read their voter registration card or apply for an absentee ballot. Keep dreaming Dems. You'll have at least 4 years of McCain before you get another shot at blowing your chance at President.
Posted by soccerplayer at 05/6/2008
i hate to inform all you old fuddy duddies, but today's youth are tomorrows fuddy duddies...look at KVH's numbers, above...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 05/6/2008
i will not be fuddyduddidized!
Tuesday, May 6, 2008 10:24:08 PM
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/6/2008
i will not be fuddyduddidized!
Tuesday, May 6, 2008 10:24:08 PM
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/6/2008
grrrrrr......
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THAT'S WHY I DOUBLE POSTED!
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/6/2008
Most young folks are prime target for advertising....that includes the political kind..... especially when the `bait' is an exotic Idol in the form of Obama. Bet if he wants to, he can sell autographed bibles to Muslims!
Posted by HAPPY3 at 05/6/2008
Posted by ibbleblibble at 05/6/2008
The youth vote was OVERWHELMINGLY for George McGovern...
nuff said?
Posted by Mask at 05/6/2008
HAPPY3
you sound more bitter each day........
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/6/2008
Posted by Mask at 05/6/2008 | ignore this person
but i don't think obama is a mcgovern. closer to an fdr or dem reagan...
whole different dynamic...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 05/6/2008
Bet if he wants to, he can sell autographed bibles to Muslims!
Posted by HAPPY3 at 05/6/2008 |
apparantly many old fuddy duddies are either senile or happily blatent liars...
happy...3? when did that happen?
Posted by ibbleblibble at 05/6/2008
i will not be fuddyduddidized!
Tuesday, May 6, 2008 10:24:08 PM
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/6/2008 |
live long enough and everyone gets fuddyduddyized my friend!
to fuddyduddy gracefully is the hope...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 05/6/2008
not me.
maybe elmerfudderized, but that's it.
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/6/2008
After thirty six years in the class room, I had my doubts about the kids. Glad to see that they are really behaving like world citizens.
Posted by julien38 at 05/6/2008
Or rather "citizens of the world".
Posted by julien38 at 05/6/2008
you sound more bitter each day........
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/6/2008
First laughable comment today.....caught Darin's 3 jokes yesterday, almost as good....but "bitter" is more, hmmmmm, current but not accurate!
I would say, over these past few weeks, my cynicism toward politics have roughly doubled and my outlook on race relations have dimmed considerably. Even if Obama wins the WH, race relations will WORSEN cause a lot of the media won't be able to maintain objectivity due to the pressures sure to be brought by a lot of the folks with blinders on today in supporting Obama.....
The Rev. Wright episode especially, will have lowered the standard of legitimately questioning who all future POTUS candidates associate with.
With multi-culturalism running rampant, hundreds of cable TV stations and other manners of escapism, and the melting pot concept further in the rearview mirror, our country will become more and more DIVERSE....not a good recipe for restoring the country to the days when we could focus on something like the Apollo program or to defeating communism.
My hope is that risk-taking & entrepreneurship will be the last Americanism to die....but, as with my Upset call on NC, Don't bet on it!
Posted by HAPPY3 at 05/6/2008
With multi-culturalism running rampant
~~~~~~~~~~
actually, i'd say that's a good thing.
after all, EVERYBODY should have equal opportunity to steal america from the native peoples.
Tuesday, May 6, 2008 11:30:06 PM
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/6/2008
With multi-culturalism running rampant
~~~~~~~~~~
actually, i'd say that's a good thing.
after all, EVERYBODY should have equal opportunity to steal america from the native peoples.
Tuesday, May 6, 2008 11:30:06
See the Balkans...it will be the death of "e pluribus unum."
Posted by JOMAMMA at 05/6/2008
I am a native people...and the only people who steal from me are the govt lib programs that put more and more of our lives into govt hands and less responsibility in individuals hands...IE..loss of freedoms are racing towards us...and it will not be pretty...I see us spiraling down the path toward mediocrity at light speed...unionised, of course.
Posted by JOMAMMA at 05/6/2008
EVERYBODY should have equal opportunity to steal america from the native peoples.
Tuesday, May 6, 2008 11:30:06 PM
The way this post of yours read, you must be a native Canadian (ie, non-European origin) and your Mexican wife, must be indigenous to Mexico.
Too bad Canada lies so far north...otherwise, I'd love to come up and steal some of that bountiful land, oil too, for myself....the per capita stealables up your way is mind-boggling....if I am an investment manager (which I was during the mid-80s') for China, I'd buy up as much of Canada as possible and hope that (natural) global warming is for rea...and if not, speed up the release of CO2 to pump up Canadian farmland productivity....major commodity play and China is well-suited for this kind of long-term play....it's had 4,000 years waiting for its turn....what's another half-century.......If not China, maybe the Arabs with their petro fortunes.
Using mergers & acquisitions analogy, Canada is a `takeover' bait......
OK, how's that for a rumble....time to hit National Geographics! This month's entire issue is devoted to "China - Inside the Dragon"!
Posted by HAPPY3 at 05/6/2008
america as in two great big continents....
my wife is a hybrid.
my parents came to canada in 1953.
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/6/2008
You know it really makes me mad as a youth voter when older people say we don't count. I would like to remind those people that we are the future of this country and be nice to us. We are the future, just because your chance at youth activism failed don't say we are pointless!
Posted by lukwildcat1 at 05/7/2008
canada, like any "nation", is just a bunch of lines on a map drawn up by rich people for their optimal gain.
while i am happy that the politics of "my" country have allowed myself and my family to prosper,
i have been just as happy elsewhere.
sure, the chinese are buying lots of stuff here. the indians, too.
<i>Two mining giants, Falconbridge and Inco, were bought respectively by Xstrata, a Swiss firm, and Brazil's Vale, each for close to C$20 billion ($20 billion). Rio Tinto, an Anglo-Australian firm, took over Alcan, an aluminium producer, for twice that figure. Saudi investors joined with Americans to snap up Four Seasons and Fairmont, two posh hotel chains.
Less noticed was that Canadian firms gave almost as good as they got. Thomson, a media group, bought Reuters (for C$19 billion) while TD Bank bought Commerce Bancorp, an American bank, for C$8.5 billion. Canadian investors purchased 508 foreign firms last year, compared with 192 acquisitions made by foreigners in Canada, according to Crosbie & Company, which tracks mergers and acquisitions. Still, for the first time in 13 years, the number of deals worth more than C$1 billion that involved foreign takeovers of Canadian companies was greater than those in which Canadians bought firms abroad. Similarly, the total value of foreign takeovers of Canadian firms was around twice that of foreign purchases by Canadians.</i>
whatever........
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/7/2008
jeez......
i've got to be SO specific.
unless i'm speaking about u.s. politics, AMERICA TO ME MEANS A BIG BLOB OF LAND covered by various countries.
jeez.....
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/7/2008
First of ALL; THANKS YOU FOR ALL THE CITIZENS GAVE THEIR VOTES TO HILLARY!!! About ... "the so called `racism'...!!!??? Why that meaning? To support every decent CITIZEN of this country, you are a ...racist??!! What about Mr. Nobody from Where He ...COMES... Hello Mr. Wake Up and STEP DOWN!!! Why You still DREAMING... about ... Your ...PRESIDENCY???!!! WHAT have you DONE to deserve to SERVE this Great Nation???!!!!. You still have TIME to have a... Brake!!! Why NOT???!!! Who are YOU calling a RACIST???!!!.. Maybe your person have ...problem with the majority white from the U.S.!!!! Hello Mr. Obama ???? Wake UP!!! Maybe SOME OTHER TIMES YOU SHOULD TRY ... A G A I N...!!!
Posted by mihnea at 05/7/2008
Posted by HAPPY3 at 05/6/2008
Soooo you're saying diversity is bad? That we should just all be white? What's your point because I don't get it.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/7/2008
Dear Katrina,
Through the years, our relationship has brought me great warmth and satisfaction. THis fact makes what I have to say even more difficult.
Since your recent makeover, I have been making regular visits to other sites.
I know it sounds trite, but after trying to communicate with you from the confines of this little box, well,
I just need more space.
Posted by drhammer at 05/7/2008
"The Rev. Wright episode especially, will have lowered the standard of legitimately questioning who all future POTUS candidates associate with."
The Bushes practically fellate the Saudis.
How does a relationship with a bigmouth preacher constitute a lowering of the standards?
Posted by drhammer at 05/7/2008
<i>actually, i'd say that's a good thing.
after all, EVERYBODY should have equal opportunity to steal america from the native peoples.
Tuesday, May 6, 2008 11:30:06 PM
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/6/2008 </i>
Canada tried this years ago. Lots of evidence of this at the bottom of Lake Erie.
Still bitter?
Posted by Sliver at 05/7/2008
By the way, I return after a brief absence to find Hap in v3.0.
Apparently, only the names have been changed to protect the unappreciated.
Posted by drhammer at 05/7/2008
Does the HELL aldready BEGAIN??? A BLACK president in ...WHITE HOUSE???!!!..
Posted by mihnea at 05/7/2008
(Sheeesh...)
Posted by drhammer at 05/7/2008
Posted by mihnea at 05/7/2008
Now we see the racist truth. Classy.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/7/2008
I obviously agree with you on the young voter dynamics, and this will be part of the Obama winning coalition that has been missing in previous presidential contests - along with "previous apathetic" voters, and new African American voters.
But, KVH, you really should do a more in-depth study on the effect of Operation Chaos on the primaries since John McCain dropped out. Republican participation prior to Operation Chaos was 6% or less of all primary voters, but after McCain dropped out and Operation Chaos began, the number INCREASED BY AN ADDITIONAL 4% to 10% of all primary voters. This 4% swing to Hillary represents FALSE SUPPORT, and would mean a 53-47 LOSS in Indiana rather than a 51-49 WIN. This is BIG news, as it takes away any illusion of Hillary momentum, and The Nation should step up to the plate and report on this fact!
Posted by Metteyya at 05/7/2008
but i don't think obama is a mcgovern. closer to an fdr or dem reagan...
whole different dynamic...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 05/6/2008
Ok, what did you do with Darladoon? Obviously you have stolen her herbs.
Posted by lvliberty1 at 05/7/2008
Canada tried this years ago. Lots of evidence of this at the bottom of Lake Erie.
Still bitter?
Posted by Sliver
better check those history books.
like i said america from tierra del fuego to baffin island.
the BIG america.
sheesh.
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/7/2008
Posted by lvliberty1 at 05/7/2008 | ignore this person
actually, shepherd, from what i hear, many young evangelicals are supporting obama these days. hmmm...
looks like your political views are indeed not a natural outgrowth of christianity after all. i just don't see how "give unto caesar what is caesar's" translates into "allow the unscrupulous powerful to harm the weak and just worry about whether you are going to heaven", and apparantly many younger evangelical christians are coming around.
seems the abortion abyss is fading into its proper place - one of many issues to consider.
i can't help but think that if the anti-abortion movement excorciated violence and concentrated its money and energy in a slick, effective campaign to persuade and offer alternatives to abortion, it would be a lot more effective in the longrun, but thats just my opinion. (its also my opinion that abortion is a morally sketchy to deplorable unavoidable vice, like prostitution and intoxicants that is better minimized by a certain amount of legality than a futile attempt at extermination, but my belief again...).
but only the most hardened cynic can ignore the fact that the obama phenomenon is far more than the peddling of false hope to dewey eyed dreamers.
but keep on seeing it/speaking of it as you want it to be rather than as it is...
hmmm.. darla. havent seen her around here. wonderful young black jewish pot smoking/growing california lesbian...hope she's doing fine.
Posted by ibbleblibble at 05/7/2008
wonderful young black jewish pot smoking/growing california lesbian...hope she's doing fine.
Posted by ibbleblibble
DARLADOON/IBBLE '08
-- Wacky and Wild For a New Century --
(got my vote!)
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/7/2008
co-presidents, that is....
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/7/2008
she's in berkely...hope she didn't get arrested in that san diego dragnet drug bust...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 05/7/2008
because your chance at youth activism failed don't say we are pointless! <Posted by lukwildcat1 at 05/7/2008>
"Luk . . . I'm your Father . . ."
Let's not make this a generational thing.
For one reason, your generation cannot possibly hope to compete. My generation was billy clubbed, gassed, dog-attacked, waterhosed, paddywagoned, impounded, pounded, railroaded, jailed, prosecuted, deported, drafted, spat upon, spied upon, interrogated, infiltrated, injected, inspected, and, and, and . . . man, I mean . . . I mean . . . I mean . . . you send . . . I mean, I'm sittin' here on the Group W bench, 'cause you want to know if my generation has done enough and suffered enough to be qualified as something other than failures for our activism in name of civil rights, equality, the environment, and freedom of discourse and opinion--this when YOUR generation considers it bloodshed in a noble cause if you get paper cuts distributing flyers in support of Net Neutrality.
Jeez.
Kid, it's good by me if you just get a paying job and pay the FICA owed to me for my years of service making sure your generation has a roof over its head and diapers for their bottoms.
Fuddyduddy indeed. Why, the very idea . . .
Posted by goyadad at 05/7/2008
Posted by goyadad at 05/7/2008
Wow somebody just got very indignant. Haha. But your right. Luks comment shows a lack of respect for the people who worked hard to make sure we have the rights we enjoy today. Like the fact that I don't have to use the colored bathrooms.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/7/2008
Posted by ibbleblibble at 05/7/2008
Indeed there is a liberal wing of evangelicalism. Fortunately, most evangelicals (including young adult evangelicals) are conservative.
As to your render to caesar comment, evangelicals as I have noted and provided evidence of are at the vanguard of giving unto the poor and needy. Evangelicals in this country give in the billions towards helping the poor and needy. All without the need of the Federal Govt. It in fact is a sin that keeps one out of heaven not to give to those most in need.
As to abortion, I've commented to Mask that I believe that only through changing hearts can we end abortion, and not through legislation.
Thanks for you comments Ibb.
I remain unconvinced that Obama is what he portrays himself or that the country really wants what he offers (beyond the vague platitudes he gives in his speeches).
Posted by lvliberty1 at 05/7/2008
"I remain unconvinced that Obama is what he portrays himself or that the country really wants what he offers (beyond the vague platitudes he gives in his speeches)." <Posted by lvliberty1 at 05/7/2008>
Monsignor Storm Drain,
I doubt very much that Obama is addressing his persuasive discourse to you. What passes for your "mind" is already made up--no use confusing you with the facts.
And by "vague platitudes" (a comment parroted from McCain's stump speech, btw) do you mean things like "compassionate conservatism" or more like "soft bigotry of low expectations" or even "they misunderestimated me"?
[Do you think he heard me? Pretty sure he has me on Ignore. You know, that "storm drain" thing again. Me along with BHO.]
Posted by goyadad at 05/7/2008
Posted by lvliberty1 at 05/7/2008 | ignore this person
well, in terms of obama's virtue, we shall see one way or another. i think he is as virtuous as a politician can be, for politics is a dirty and corrupting affair even at its best.
but i don't want bad government any more than anyone else - i just think that REAL democratic government is the best check on the iniquitous aspects of the private sector.
indeed nothing is perfect in this world nor ever will be (depending on one's definition of perfection, of course) and too powerful an effort to create a utopia does indeed result in dystopia...but one must try nonetheless and we all try in our own ways according to our beliefs and circumstances.
--------------------
off topic entertainment reccomendation - a show called "firefly" which aired for a season on fox...science fiction about the crew of an interstellar merchant ship. all are imperfect characters. one of my favorites (aside from adam baldwin's "jayne cobb") is ron glass, who plays the "shepherd", an interesting preacher (and a little more) who falls in with the crew and accompanies them...
regardless, namaste shepherd and keep up the good work despite your flawed doctrine and political retardation...
;)
Posted by ibbleblibble at 05/7/2008
I doubt very much that Obama is addressing his persuasive discourse to you. What passes for your "mind" is already made up--no use confusing you with the facts. And by "vague platitudes" (a comment parroted from McCain's stump speech, btw) do you mean things like "compassionate conservatism" or more like "soft bigotry of low expectations" or even "they misunderestimated me"? [Do you think he heard me? Pretty sure he has me on Ignore. You know, that "storm drain" thing again. Me along with BHO.]
Posted by goyadad at 05/7/2008
I wouldn't put you on ignore. Your comments make such good fodder.
Actually, it is the facts that are persuasive in determining that Obama would be bad for the country. His willingness to ignore the constitution, especially Article 1, Section 8, and the 10th Amendment are compelling reasons not to vote for him.
His total lack of foreign policy experience would not of itself be a disqualifier; however, the foreign policy views he has outlined to-date would be disasterous for our country and the world. He is mostly limp carrot with a tiny stick.
His domestic spending proposals would dwarf our current military spending and place us in a much larger deficit than either Clinton or McCain's proposed budgets.
The entire unity theme, from either party is a joke. We are deeply divided and for good reason. We have two competing views for the country which stand in diametric opposite of each other. Just as we were divided under Clinton and Bush, this is a growing divide that cannot be placated by mere words. In fact, without competing political philosophies we run the danger of becoming a totalitarian country.
Now, I will give Obama credit for being an eloquent speaker, and he may well be sincere in what he says. But eloquent speech is hardly sufficient reason to make someone president of the US. I want someone who has demonstrated leadership. Obama has virtually no leadership experience either outside of government or within government. The presidency is about having the capacity and the inner strength to make difficult decisions. I don't want someone who is entirely untested in this most important characteristic of leadership.
BTW, what is the "storm drain" thing?
Posted by lvliberty1 at 05/7/2008
Posted by lvliberty1 at 05/7/2008
Kind of like Bush's lack of foreign policy experience yet you say he did a great job? You can't argue a lack of experience because you guys love a President who came into office with absolutely no experience whatsoever. A person who hadn't even left the country for God's sake.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/7/2008
Posted by lvliberty1 at 05/7/2008
This is my argument against all your experience arguments. "A wise man is one who surrounds himself with people smarter than he." You don't have to be a foreign policy guru you need someone in your Cabinet who is. No President does anything alone. The best Presidents I think listen to their advisors who are smarter than they are.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/7/2008
Hillary LOSES Indiana 51-49!
Here is the math:
In Indiana, Hillary received 644,590 votes, and Obama received 630,395 votes. That is a difference of 14,195 votes.
If you add up both of their vote totals, you get 1,274,985 total votes cast, and we know 10% of these votes were Republicans, or 127,985 votes.
Hillary's share of the Republican vote was 54% or 68,849 votes. 41% of these Republicans that voted for "Hillary" indicated in exit polls that they would vote for John McCain in November as opposed to Hillary Clinton. That accounts for 28,228 voters, or 2.2% of all voters in the Indiana primary.
If you subtract 2.2% (28,228 votes) from Hillary's total, she gets roughly 49% of the vote in Indiana, and Barack 51%. That is, Hillary's "new" total is 616,362 and Barack's total stays the same at 630,395.
Posted by Metteyya at 05/7/2008
So maybe the "youth vote" is no big deal, but it isn't going to McCain, and it didn't go to Clinton. Maybe I'm naive, but it seems like every vote for a Dem is a good thing. Piss in someone else's Wheaties, you guys.
And anyway, you're just wrong. Young people have been signing up and showing up, or have you not noticed that the turnout in these primaries/caucuses has been more than double the norm?
Cynicism for the sake of cynicism is an affectation.
There's work to do.
Posted by opeluboy at 05/7/2008
1. Kind of like Bush's lack of foreign policy experience yet you say he did a great job? You can't argue a lack of experience because you guys love a President who came into office with absolutely no experience whatsoever. A person who hadn't even left the country for God's sake.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/7/2008
You didn't read what I actually said:
His total lack of foreign policy experience would not of itself be a disqualifier; however, the foreign policy views he has outlined to-date would be disasterous for our country and the world. He is mostly limp carrot with a tiny stick.
Posted by lvliberty1 at 05/7/2008
He is mostly limp carrot with a tiny stick.
Posted by lvliberty1 at 05/7/2008
hmmmmmm?
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/7/2008
lvliberty1
yeah,
why talk when you can squish?
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/8/2008
Hello,Hello,Hello!!!
I`m BACK again...!!! Somebody mention HILLARY should step out from this race,including old McGovern, who would be better to step OUT HIMSELF!!! Why She has to step out? Only because ....she`s WHITE??? According with who`m time projection SHE`S not available ANYMORE...???!!! BETTER stay in race till...THE END! By the way : I`m not HILLARY`S TROL , but just a resonable person who don`t want HER to ...LOOSE!!!
Posted by mihnea at 05/8/2008
no, we don't want her loose.
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/8/2008
Posted by mihnea at 05/8/2008 | ignore this person
hi minny. how you doing? many just think that since obama has pretty much locked this thing up in terms of delegates, that the only thing ms. clinton can achieve is to hurt the democratic ticket by remaining in the race and tearing him down. it begins to apear that ms. clinton may indeed be far more interested in her own career than either party or country and further it appears she may indeed be a tad racist herself based on her and her campaign's statements and demeanor...and in politics appearances are what really matter, right?
but then as a member of the crypto nazi "christian" organization known as "the family", perhaps appearances don't begin to tell the story...
oops! was i insinuating ugliness? well at least my ugly little insinuation is based on fact in that "the family's" (kinda creepily innocent name in my opinion" was founded by a norwegian nazi sympathizer who advocated the US stay out of WW2 and let old adolph finish his work...
anyway...any time you wish to turn over a new leaf and join the party of non-racist decency there will be some yummy vegan scones and herbal tea in the lobby waiting for you. you might want to take your meds as well. i can show you some very effective meditation techniques too that can calm you down and help you see your negativity better - can' start the healing process til you recognize and admit to your issues.
namaste, minny.
Posted by ibbleblibble at 05/8/2008
vegan scones???
blasphemy!!!
i think we can be nice enough to the cows to enjoy a little butter, thank you very much!
and honey, too. i'm nice to bees.
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/8/2008
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/8/2008 | ignore this person
yeah - i've never understood how some shaved ape squeezin' cow titties is cruelty to animals.
could be viewed as pleasurable...lol...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 05/8/2008
yeah - i've never understood how some shaved ape squeezin' cow titties is cruelty to animals.
could be viewed as pleasurable...lol...
Posted by ibbleblibble
well, it REALLY, REALLY depends on how you squeeze.
rBGH, for example is not nice.
unhappy cows, unhappy milk.
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/8/2008
kINDLY ATTN: ibbleblibble
NICE article you wrote MORON, but since YOU are so SMART, as you mention WW2 , let`s see who`s going to start WW3???!!!... After that maybe you`ll send greetings...from HELL!!! mihnea
Posted by mihnea at 05/8/2008
Hello,Hello,Hello!!!
I`m BACK again...!!! Somebody mention HILLARY should step out from this race,including old McGovern, who would be better to step OUT HIMSELF!!! Why She has to step out? Only because ....she`s WHITE??? According with who`m time projection SHE`S not available ANYMORE...???!!! BETTER stay in race till...THE END! By the way : I`m not HILLARY`S TROL , but just a resonable person who don`t want HER to ...LOOSE!!!
Posted by mihnea at 05/8/2008
from HELL!!! mihnea
Posted by mihnea at 05/8/2008 | ignore this person
i indeed kinda admire someone who is comfortable with the knowledge they are going to hell, minny. as a buddhist, we too believe in hell, a horrible place of our own worst nightmares into which we are reborn and out of which, after what seems an eternity (you know, like the feeling one gets when watching an entire episode of "big brother") one eventually dies with some seriously spiffed up karma...
but minny - there's still time for you to avoid such a fate by doing/speaking/thinking good and avoiding the opposite.
and even if you DO end up in hell, kind bad boddhisatvas like myself will come visit you from time to time with fresh lemonade and vegan scones to comfort your pain and lighten your suffering, dear...
but cease reposting that trainwreck of a post that ends with the word "LOOSE" immediately or i will simply ignore you whether in heaven, hell or this green earth.
seriously, minny - yer on the edge of the iggy pit and there's only one i've thrown down that hole of hungry ghosts in my entire stay here...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 05/8/2008
oh - yer saying I'm going to hell...
well of course - like i said i'll be visiting all my evil friends to cheer them up!
Posted by ibbleblibble at 05/8/2008
Posted by ibbleblibble at 05/8/2008
Maybe that's her favorite Johnny Depp/Heather Graham film???
Posted by Mask at 05/8/2008
"young voters hold the key"
step 1. pick up key
step 2. hold key
step 3. insert key in keyhole
step 4. turn key until lock is engaged
step 5. open door
step 6. come on in!
still a few steps to go, but promising start...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 05/8/2008
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Posted by www.democratz.org at 05/9/2008