Earlier this year, as the new Democratic Congress gathered, I highlighted 10 pieces of legislation that I believe deserve to be passed – they would certainly help put our nation back on a path toward a more perfect union. One of the ten bills featured was Representative Ed Markey's Torture Outsourcing Prevention Act which was reintroduced on Tuesday as H.R. 1352.
In the last session of Congress the bill had 33 original cosponsors. There are now 45 original cosponsors of the new bill, and on Wednesday, Rep. Tom Lantos – Chairman of the Committee on Foreign Affairs – also signed on.
"I feel a rising optimism that we can end this repugnant and counterproductive practice of outsourcing torture during the 110th Congress," Markey said.
Let's hope he's right. The practice of sending individuals detained by our government off to other countries that torture – known in Orwellian speak as "extraordinary rendition" – flies in the face of the international Convention Against Torture, ratified by the United States in 1994, and the 1998 Foreign Affairs Reform and Restructuring Act. It has led to the reprehensible and tragic cases of Maher Arar, Khaled El-Masri and Abu Omar – and in all likelihood the torture of many other innocent victims that we have not yet heard from.
Markey's legislation would bar the transfer of any individuals in US custody to any country known to use torture. It would also prohibit the use of "diplomatic assurances" – as the Bush administration claims to have received from Syria in the case of Arar's transfer – as the basis for determining that the threat of torture does not exist. The legislation would require the Secretary of State to submit to Congress a list of countries that engage in torture and forbid the transfer of any individual to those countries (unless the Secretary of State certifies that a country no longer practices torture and a mechanism is in place to assure that the person transferred will not be tortured).
With over 1000 CIA-operated "ghost flights" over Europe reported by the European Parliament; black sites used by the CIA; and cases against CIA agents for the abduction of innocent civilians now being prepared by both Germany and Italy – passing the Torture Outsourcing Prevention Act is a necessary step towards restoring our commitment to human rights and our standing in the international community.

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Hopefully this will pass.
I wonder though how Senator Sherrod Brown (D-OH) will vote when it reaches the Senate...given his support of the Military Commissions Act as a Representative last year?
(BTW, 11 posts from RESE?...somebody count and see how long it took him to go from "torture" to "David Rockefeller"...hehe).
Posted by Mask at 03/08/2007 @ 4:12pm
Mask I saw that there were 11 comments and thought, cool,looked on and saw a blank screen.Figured it was rese.You confirmed.
Posted by i'm nobody at 03/08/2007 @ 4:19pm
it is clear that torture is a job americans can do just as well right here at home. stop the outsourcing of torture.
Posted by johannesrolf at 03/08/2007 @ 4:35pm
Posted by I'M NOBODY 03/08/2007 @ 4:19pm
I'm betting....THREE posts in, from RESE...
and he's moved from "outsourcing torture" to....."Mossad thermite charges in Building 7"
take that bet?
Posted by Mask at 03/08/2007 @ 4:36pm
Hopefully this will pass.
I wonder though how Senator Sherrod Brown ☼ (D-OH) will vote when it reaches the Senate...given his support of the Military Commissions Act as a Representative last year?
(BTW, 11 posts from RESE?...somebody count and see how long it took him to go from "torture" to "David Rockefeller"...hehe).
Posted by MASK 03
What are you trying to compensate for, Mask?
Oh yeah, I found a great site for you. It's called "Dictionary.com". You wanna know the difference between progressive, socialist, or anything else, just go there and it can explain it to you.
Posted by mtspence05 at 03/08/2007 @ 6:14pm
Posted by MTSPENCE05 03/08/2007 @ 6:14pm
So you've been to the site.....but you can't?!??!!?
Posted by Mask at 03/08/2007 @ 9:32pm
Posted by MTSPENCE05 03/08/2007 @ 6:14pm
So you've been to the site.....but you can't?!??!!?
Posted by MASK
I can read, cannot you? Cute little game. You insist we spoon feed you definitions, and when we refuse you accuse us of ignorance. Pathetic.
Posted by mtspence05 at 03/09/2007 @ 09:19am
Wow....30 posts but I see only seven. The thought of "unhiding" makes me queasy...
Posted by leftofcenter at 03/09/2007 @ 09:28am
hey - you wanta get some personal experience in torture? unignore rese and enjoy...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 03/09/2007 @ 09:33am
this is seriously egregious, though (outsourcing of torture). how can we hector others about human rights?
Posted by ibbleblibble at 03/09/2007 @ 09:36am
Ibble, now China is lecturing us about human rights. how the mighty have fallen.
Posted by johannesrolf at 03/09/2007 @ 09:57am
Returning soon to thenation.com...the return of Wood Yee!
Posted by Announcement at 03/09/2007 @ 11:53am
Posted by ANNOUNCEMENT 03/09/2007 @ 11:53am | ignore this person
ignored.
Posted by johannesrolf at 03/09/2007 @ 12:19pm
Posted by ANNOUNCEMENT 03/09/2007 @ 11:53am
Lotta people been gone the last few week....
I missed DARLADOON and was glad to see her back.
Uh....that's the end of my list!
(hehe)
Posted by Mask at 03/09/2007 @ 12:50pm
waging a war of terror and hate, murdering innocent civilians, killing our servicemen, destroying national property and depriving U.S.A. citizens of their rights.
this sounds suspiciously like our effort in Iraq, a similarity that is surely coincidental.
Posted by johannesrolf at 03/09/2007 @ 11:21pm
SO...if I were a real person who approves of torture..I would have them watch and listen to Katie, Hillary and Arinna screeching about what is truth...and then force these guys to sub consciously hear the NATION read to them in between allah akbahr and Dom Deluise read ZEROs, FROMSHITFORBRAINS, WILL, and GLEN LEMONHEAD posts on how the world really works...wait they might agree with...
Posted by john maasch at 03/09/2007 @ 11:22pm
Why did Richard Armitage receive the high honor of knighthood from her Majesty, The Queen? Why was John McCain the recent recipient of JINSA's highest honor - the annual Scoop Jackson Award? Answer these questions, and other things start to make more sense.
McCain is merely a puppet on a string. That thing growing out of the side of his face is his conscience, trying to escape his body. McCain is being BLACKMAILED. THEY ALL ARE.
So who is the puppeteer and what is the evidence being used against EVERY member of this administration and EVERY member of Congress?
Stop looking at individual comments, individual personalities and individual headlines. Pull all the way back to 50,000 feet and take the entire picture into account, in context. When you add up the entire list of things that "just don't make logical sense," you're left with only one choice. That is to change your own mind about right and wrong and fairness and morality - and then look again with fresh eyes.
Assuming that virtually everything you've read or heard since 9/11 from the mainstream Department Of Propaganda is exactly the opposite of the truth brings you one hell of a lot closer to comprehending the entire GAME, in context.
The puppet master in this country is David Rockefeller. There are others, but focus on him.
All of this talk about warantless wiretapping and the misuse of it. What would you be able to do if you could wiretap EVERY conversation in America, and use it however you chose to? Remember that it was revealed that AT&T had illegally wiretapped on the Administration's behalf in the months prior to 9/11? Remember that the Government's ABLE DANGER project (our best source of Bin Laden intelligence) was shut down in the months prior to 9/11? Is it really more of a stretch to believe that illegal wiretaps led to this result, in order to protect the government's own planned 9/11 operation? Notice the resurgence of AT&T since 9/11?
Notice how they are buying up every other communications company? Is it now GOVERNMENT OWNED? Is this the government's vehicle for control of ALL FORMS of communication?
The entire agenda is set from above, and only those of low moral character, susceptible to blackmail, are allowed into the political charade. AIPAC is the filter through which they must pass, and all must pay homage to AIPAC to retain their positions of power and influence, to which they are addicted. The Abramoffs, Lewinskys, Gannons and others serve the useful function of assuring that every politician is subject to blackmail, to do the bidding of the puppet master.
It makes no sense that law makers don't read the laws they pass, right? OK then, what DOES make sense? What does make sense is that these new laws are written by those on the payroll of the puppet master (from outside of the government structure), and that those who would otherwise be in a position to prevent their implementation are not only powerless to do so, but have the clear understanding that they are there specifically turn a blind eye and allow their passage. Bush's subsequent signing statements are merely the fine tuning at the end of the entire process - WHICH THEY ARE ALL IN ON.
THE BIG LIE is that we still have a Representative Republic. We don't. We have the illusion of one. Why do you think that the "election cycle" has been broadened such that it NEVER STOPS? As soon as the most recent elections were decided, the Presidential yammering began (the very next day) - and the media's only job is to make you think that any of it matters. It doesn't. It's all an illusion to keep you occupied, your gaze focused on the illusionist's distraction (politics), while the real trick (divide and conquer) is played out by the other hand.
It's time view the world through new eyes. Remove your moral compass and assume you are a power-hungry mad man who seeks to control every one and every thing. You have EVERY RESOURCE IN THE WORLD at your disposal. What methods would you use to control the entire game board, and most importantly, control the masses?
As long as the topic remains "Politics," the puppet master win. Rise above it people. You're being GAMED. You want to view the entire landscape in CONTEXT?
Read through this: http://plungerspeaks.blogspot.com
See with new eyes.
David Rockefeller runs the show from his office atop the "Tower Of Power" building in Manhattan. Remember when Hillary spoke of a Vast Right Wing Conspiracy? Of course she was right. But once they had she and her husband dead to rights, they cut a deal, and brought them on-side. What else explains the fact that GHW Bush and Clinton are now cooperating?
It was GHW Bush, in concert with Israel, that entrapped Clinton in the first place, using Mossad "Swallow" Lewinsky as the bait. This alliance led to the installation of the Bush Cabal under the direction of GHW Bush - all with the complicity of AIPAC/Israel, and all at the behest of the puppet master, David Rockefeller.
Lay, Cheney, Rumsfeld and GHW Bush conspired to create the California energy crisis to set the stage for the resulting energy wars. 9/11 was a REQUIREMENT for the implementation of the PNAC plan.
But now, there's a serious problem. Israel has double crossed the administration, and is blackmailing all of the co-conspirators in the Administration. Israel has the nuclear lanch and targeting codes for the US Nuclear Missile arsenal. They are calling ALL the shots - and it's all the result of blackmail.
Google "Sexpionage"
It's the oldest game in warfare.
The Bombing of Iran is next.
The story of the "Dancing Israelis" is well documented by mainstream media sources worldwide, and reconfirmed by the television interview these Mossad agents conducted upon their release and return to Israel. The story of the "Israeli Art Students Spy Ring" depicts the LARGEST CASE OF FOREIGN ESPIONAGE IN US HISTORY. The Official DEA Report names every single person involved, and documents their activities in detail - all this in the months and weeks prior to 9/11. The case of Larry Franklin's espionage, in concert with AIPAC - is not only well documented, he's already pled guilty to conspiracy and providing top secret information (regarding IRAN) to agents of a foreign government (Israel), the trial for which is forthcoming.
All of these matters are well documented FACTS - which point DIRECTLY to Israel's role in the FALSE FLAG ATTACK ON AMERICA which served as the pretext for war, as proscibed by the PNAC.
Not one single person on this message board can refute these FACTS, because they are FACTS.
Karl Rove INVENTED the White House Iraq Group (WHIG) for one purpose. TOTAL MESSAGE CONTROL.
Rove is a genious...an evil genious.
He can only be effective when he knows literally everything. He is the REALITY CREATION ARCHITECT.
At any given time he can take a set of actual facts and use each of them to stitch together a totally false reality.
Rove knew that the truth was the enemy of their conspiracy to conquer the Middle East (the PNAC plan). His job, every single day, is to convince you, me and the rest of the world that you didn't just see and hear what you just saw and heard...or if you did, it doesn't mean what your logical mind is attempting to tell you - because "we're in a post-9/11 world now" and black is white.
Karl Rove is the single most destructive force in the US Government...the enabler of the entire evil scheme...THE ARCHITECT.
The scheme includes 9/11 as the essential pretext. "9/11" ... how clever, Karl! Only someone with American sensibilities would select the number we have all memorized to call in the event of life threatening emergency as the date for this evil....
KARL ROVE.
The war plan to invade Iraq was written BEFORE 9/11. The Secret Energy Task Force meetings that Cheney had with Ken Lay and the other OIL HOGS during which they all decided how to divide up the oil fields of the Middle East...all of that was BEFORE 9/11.
Now you see why Cheney insisted the substance of those talks remain SECRET.
All of their schemes and conspiracies REQUIRED 9/11 as the essential trigger.
Cheney outsourced the implementation of the FALSE FLAG OPERATION to Mossad...the FALSE FLAG experts. This explains why over 200 Mossad agents were operating in the United States prior to 9/11. This explains why five of them were arrested, having been observed filming the planes hitting the towers and their subsequent collapse - celebrating our worst nightmare.
9/11 was not a bad day for those involved in the Conspiracy. It was their shining moment...their PRETEXT.
One of them washed out...couldn't cope with the guilt. Ari Fleisher had to be replaced, and disappeared. Not dead, but out of sight.
The outing of Plame was designed to destroy the best WMD intelligence the US had at its disposal regarding Iraq. Plame knew for a FACT that Iraq had no WMD. It was HER JOB to know. Therefore Rove perceived Plame (the truth) as his WORST ENEMY, and conceived of a plan to silence her. Rove is the individual who insisted that Wilson be sent to Niger.
GUARANTEED.
This was the only way to launch a smear program which appeared to be aimed at Wilson, but was intended solely to shut down the entire Brewster Jennings operation and bury their WMD evidence.
THAT IS ALL ROVE.
He invented WHIG:
The group's members included Rove, Bush advisor Karen Hughes, Senior Advisor to the Vice President Mary Matalin, Deputy Director of Communications James Wilkinson, Assistant to the President and Legislative Liaison Nicholas Calio, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, National Security Advisor Stephen Hadley and I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby.
Every single one of these individuals is a co-conspirator in a concerted effort to defraud America into committing its troops and its treasure to invade a foreign country to the sole benefit of BIG OIL AND ISRAEL.
The pending invasion of Iran is the next phase of the very same conspiracy. Karen Kwiatkowski let us know that Larry Franklin had set up an IRAN desk in the midst of the Pentagon's IRAQ planners. Larry Franklin has pled guilty for passing Top Secret Iranian Intelligence to AIPAC (Israel). Israeli Generals were free to come and go from the Cheney/Rumsfeld Office Of Middle East Invasion whenever they pleased, without need to sign the guest register.
IT'S ALL THE SAME CONSPIRACY.
9/11 - Afghanistan - Iraq - Iran - Syria.
READ THE PNAC.
A "New Pearl Harbor" was a REQUIREMENT for its implementation.
Rove is running the entire PsyOps Machine to enable it.
Hang them for TREASON.
http://dailydocket.blogspot.com/2006/01/propaganda.html...
But whereas Hitler was a true master of propaganda, and his minister a far less talented functionary, today the situation is reversed: our propaganda minister is the master, and our leader his functionary. Karl Rove is so confident of his strategy that he now announces it to the public! In January of this year,
Rove noted that we face "a ruthless enemy" and "need a commander in chief and a Congress who understand the nature of the threat and the gravity of the moment America finds itself in."
Here's more:
"[T]he people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."
-- Karl Rove (oops!) Hermann Goering
Martin Bright Sunday September 12, 2004 The Observer:
"A furious row has broken out over claims in a new book by BBC broadcaster James Naughtie that US Secretary of State Colin Powell described neo-conservatives in the Bush administration as 'fucking crazies' during the build-up to war in Iraq."
Powell meant exactly what he said - but he was powerless to stop them. Such is the power of blackmail.
Posted by plunger at 03/10/2007 @ 06:58am
Israeli Spying and 9/11
Israel and 9/11: The disappearing story that's too hot to handle
Part One
"They may have known things they didn't tell us before September 11th"
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/61.html
Posted by plunger at 03/10/2007 @ 07:28am