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RedditDick Cheney commemorated the fifth anniversary of 9/11 by sticking to the MO that he and his running-mate used to lead the nation into the current mess in Iraq.
Appearing on Meet the Press on Sunday, Cheney encountered a decent grilling from host Tim Russert, who pressed him on how Cheney and George W. Bush had justified the war in Iraq. "Based on what you know now, that Saddam did not have the weapons of mass destruction that were described, would you still have gone into Iraq?" Russert asked. Yes, indeed, Cheney said, hewing to the company line. And he pointed to what appeared to be evidence that supported that no-regrets stance:
Look at the Duelfer Report and what it said. No stockpiles, but they also said he has the capability. He'd done it before. He had produced chemical weapons before and used them. He had produced biological weapons. He had a robust nuclear program in '91. All of this is true, said by Duelfer, facts.
Well, let's look at the report of Charles Duelfer who headed up the Iraq Survey Group, which was responsible for searching for WMDs after the invasion. (Duelfer took the job following David Kay's resignation in late 2003.) It just so happens that in our new book, Hubris: The Inside Story of Spin, Scandal, and the Selling of the Iraq War, Michael Isikoff and I quote from that report, and it noted that Saddam's WMD capability
was essentially destroyed in 1991.
That is the opposite of what Cheney told Russert the report said. Cheney went on to remark,
Think where we'd be if [Saddam] was still there...We also would have a situation where he would have resumed his WMD programs.
Yet Duelfer reported that at the time of the invasion, Saddam had no
plan for the revival of WMD.
Cheney even justified the invasion of Iraq by citing an allegation that was just debunked in a Senate intelligence committee report released on Friday. Claiming there was a significant relationship between Saddam's regime and al Qaeda, he cited the case of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi (who was recently killed in Iraq). After the US attacked the Taliban and al Qaeda in Afghanistan, Cheney said, Zarqawi
fled and went to Baghdad and set up operations in Baghdad in the spring of '02 and was there from then, basically, until basically the time we launched into Iraq.
The implication here is that Baghdad sanctioned the terrorist activity of Zarqawi, a supposed al Qaeda associate. But the Senate intelligence committee report--released by a Republican-run panel--noted that prior to the invasion of Iraq Zarqawi and his network were not part of al Qaeda. (That merging came after the invasion.) More important, the report cites CIA reports (based on captured documents and interrogations) that say that Baghdad was not protecting or assisting Zarqawi when he was in Iraq. In fact, Iraqi intelligence in the spring of 2002 had formed a "special committee" to locate and capture him--but failed to find the terrorist. A 2005 CIA report concluded that prior to the Iraq war,
the [Saddam] regime did not have a relationship, harbor, or turn a blind eye toward Zarqawi and his associates.
So why is Cheney still holding up Zarqawi as evidence that Baghdad was in cahoots with Osama bin Laden? If he knows something the CIA does not, perhaps he should inform the agency.
During the Meet the Press interview, Cheney blamed the CIA for his and Bush's prewar assertions that Iraq posed a WMD threat. That's what the intelligence said, Cheney insisted. Our book shows that this explanation (or, defense) is a dodge. There were dissents within the intelligence community on key aspects of the WMD argument for war--especially the charge that Iraq was reconstituting its nuclear weapons program. Cheney dwelled on that frightening possibility before the war, repeatedly declaring that the US government knew for sure that Iraq had revved up its nuclear program. Yet there was only one strong piece of evidence for this claim--that Iraq had purchased tens of thousands of aluminum tubes for use in a centrifuge that would produce enriched uranium for a nuclear bomb. And that piece of evidence was hotly contested within the intelligence community.
One CIA analyst (whom we name for the first time in Hubris) was fiercely pushing the tube case. Yet practically every other top nuclear expert in the US government (including the centrifuge specialists at the Department of Energy) disagreed. This dispute was even mentioned in The Washington Post in September 2002. But neither Cheney nor Bush (nor national security adviser Condoleezza Rce) took an interest in this important argument. Instead, they kept insisting the tube purchases were proof Saddam was building a bomb. They were wrong. And the nuclear scientists at the Department of Energy (again, as our book notes) were ordered not to say anything publicly about the tubes.
This is but one example of how the Bush White House rigged the case for war by selectively embracing (without reviewing) convenient pieces of iffy intelligence and then presenting them to the public as hard-and-fast proof. But Cheney is right--to a limited extent. The CIA did provide the White House with intelligence that was wrong (which the White House then used irresponsibly). The new Senate intelligence report, though, shows that this was not what happened regarding one crucial part of the Bush-Cheney argument for war: that al Qaeda and Iraq were in cahoots.
Before the war, Bush said that Saddam "was dealing" with al Qaeda. He even charged that Saddam had "financed" al Qaeda. The Senate intelligence report notes clearly that the prewar intelligence on this critical issue said no such thing.
The report quotes a CIA review of the prewar intelligence: "The data reveal few indications of an established relationship between al-Qa'ida and Saddam Hussein's regime." The lead Defense Intelligence Analyst on this issue told the Senate intelligence committee that "there was no partnership between the two organizations." And post-invasion debriefings of former Iraqi regime officials indicated that Saddam had no interest in working with al Qaeda and had refused to meet with an al Qaeda emissary in 1998.
The report also augments the section in our book on Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi, a captured al Qaeda commander who was taken by the CIA to Egypt where he was roughly--perhaps brutally--interrogated and claimed that Iraq had provided chemical weapons training to al Qaeda. Though there were questions about al-Libi's veracity from the start, Secretary of State Colin Powell used al-Libi's claims in his famous UN speech to argue that Saddam and Osama bin Laden were partners in evil--that there was a "sinister nexus" between the two. Al-Libi later recanted, and the CIA withdrew all the intelligence based on his claims. In other words, the Bush administration had hyped flimsy intelligence to depict Saddam and bin Laden as WMD-sharing allies.
The Senate intelligence report concluded that "Saddam Hussein was distrustful of al-Qa'ida and viewed Islamic extremists as a threat to his regime, refusing all requests from al-Qa'ida to provide material or operational support."
What did Cheney tell Russert? Saddam, he insisted, "had a relationship with al Qaeda." When Russert pointed out that the intelligence committee "said that there was no relationship," Cheney interrupted and commented, "I haven't had a chance to read it."
Perhaps he should before he talks about 9/11 and Iraq again.
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INFO ON HUBRIS: Tom Brokaw says "Hubris is a bold and provocative book that will quickly become an explosive part of the national debate on how we got involved in Iraq." Hendrik Hertzberg, senior editor of The New Yorker notes, "The selling of Bush's Iraq debacle is one of the most important--and appalling--stories of the last half-century, and Michael Isikoff and David Corn have reported the hell out of it." For more information on Hubris, click here
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Washington--a city of denials, spin, and political calculations. They may speak English there, but most citizens still need an interpreter to understand its ways and meanings. DAVID CORN, the Washington editor of The Nation magazine, has spent years analyzing the policies and pursuing the lies that spew out of the nation's capital. He is a novelist, biographer, and television and radio commentator who is able to both decipher and scrutinize Washington.
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David, Let me tell you the same thing I just told another David, Horowitz by name. Give it a rest. Just for today. Stop using the 9/11 attacks to push your own agenda, just for today. You guys remind me of a religious fanatic argueing about the 1st amendment "separation" debate at a Christmas Eve service. Have a little respect for the dead and let it go. Just for today.
Chip Thornton
Posted by CHIP THORNTON at 09/11/2006 @ 09:05am
Okay, how many references to "Hubris" did the rest of you count?
I got four, but think I may have missed one.
Remind me of Jon Lovitz doing his Harvey Fierstein impersonation with the talk show "Plug Away!"...hehe.
Posted by Mask at 09/11/2006 @ 09:10am
Chip,
You're right, we should be talking about how if the Supreme Court hadn't crowned the My Pet Goat reading King George and instead had gone with Gore like the plurality of the electorate had, then 9/11 would never have happened.
Osama would have stayed on the executive branches radar. Gore would have met with Richard Clark probably a dozen times as oppoed to ZERO times and the Gore report would have been implemented, which among other things, would have given us reinforced cockpit doors. Bush's reation to the Gore report was "I'm going to have Chenney come up with something", but Chenney was too busy meeting with Energy Exec cronnies to bother anti-terrorism innitiatives.
Posted by freedomplease at 09/11/2006 @ 09:22am
To Freedomplease,
My comments to both Davids above? Goes for you too.
Chip
Posted by CHIP THORNTON at 09/11/2006 @ 09:27am
Have a little respect for the dead and let it go. Just for today.
Absolute BS, Chip. Tell it to Cheney, he's the one with no respect. How many more need to die before he starts to tell the truth? He's the one pushing an agenda, an utterly discredited agenda at that. David Corn is merely reporting it.
Posted by MyParadigm at 09/11/2006 @ 10:01am
David Corn is merely reporting it.
Posted by MYPARADIGM 09/11/2006 @ 10:01am
Oh, come on, MYPARA....Mr Corn isn't "merely reporting". Like I said, how many references to "Hubris" do you count?
From now, until Christmas, I expect this COMMERCIAL from Mr Corn in every article.
Posted by Mask at 09/11/2006 @ 10:06am
Funny, I coulda swore Cheney said that Iraq was "the geographic base of the terrorists who have had us under assault for many years, but most especially on 9/11."
Posted by leftofcenter at 09/11/2006 @ 10:12am
then 9/11 would never have happened.
Osama would have stayed on the executive branches radar.
9/11 would never have happened with Gore in charge??? LOL!!! That's about the funniest thing I have ever heard. Oh....he was on the radar screen alright. Gore's boss really watched him. However, doing anything about him, he didn't seem to have the stones for. Seems these days that Al is more scared of GLobal warming than any possible threat from just about anybody in the ME.
Chip, good point. I tend to agree with you. Sorry I had to chime in, but the can of worms was already popped.
Posted by Sliver at 09/11/2006 @ 10:25am
"Seems these days that Al is more scared of GLobal warming than any possible threat from just about anybody in the ME."
Posted by SLIVER 09/11/2006 @ 10:25am
And rightly so, the fate of the earth and ALL its inhabitants is at a greater peril than some religious crazies running around the dessert. Setting priorities based on risk and degree of damage would be a nice change.
Posted by BlueTexan at 09/11/2006 @ 10:41am
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K A R L
R O V E
T H E
T E R R O R I S T
Despite his prior illegal actions, Karl Rove still retains his security clearance, and knew for WEEKS prior to London's latest fake terror alert what was coming. The odds that Rove himself advised London precisely what time to make this announcement are approximately 100%.
This gave Rove the time necessary to plan a full frontal assault on the minds of the American People.
Bill O'Reilly revealed Classified information in his recent live interview with Mossad Agent Michael Chertoff. While Chertoff wouldn't confirm or deny it, O'Reilly revealed that the FISA PROCESS was utilized to obtain warrants prior to placing wiretaps on some suspects in the US. While none of the suspects in the US was deemed to have been involved, this example was clear proof that the FISA Court WORKS – to the chagrin of Gonzales.
http://progressivedailybeacon.com/more.php?page=opinion&id=1235
Neo-Con Madmen Strike Again - The London Fear Frenzy
Well before Wednesday the administration was aware of Britain's plans to launch a raid against a possible terror plot.
With the knowledge of a terror-scare coming soon, all day Wednesday the entire Neo-Conservative Republican political apparatus had been busy assailing their political enemy's supposed unwillingness to fight terrorism. On Thursday the Neo-Con assault intensified and finally peaked when news of the British scheme was made public. Then, in the most vile and unbecoming manner possible, Republicans accused Democrats of having forgotten the attacks of 9/11. Some Republicans were even gleeful enough to remind reporters that with the anniversary of 9/11 fast approaching their attack on Democrats, coupled with the London conspiracy would do wonders for their lagging poll numbers:
"Weeks before September 11th, this is going to play big," one White House official said.
P L A Y
B I G ? ? ?
T E R R O R
I S
A
G A M E ? ? ?
For Karl Rove, terror is THE GAME.
The timing of the release of this information was not coincidental. Let's take a look at how many other circumstances coincided with this fake terror scare…
Lieberman was not the Democratic Party candidate - he was quite literally the Israeli candidate.
AIPAC lost to Lamont, cracking the door open for an anti-AIPAC rebellion at the polls.
Less than 36 hours later...
"TERROR IN THE SKIES" was the headline on all news programming in the United States - and CNN would have you believe that the entire world changed that day (again).
The world didn't change - but CNN's fear-mongering role in it on behalf of Israel has been clearly exposed.
All of the President's NeoCons have made it known since Lieberman's loss to Lamont, just how important Lieberman has been to their agenda - the Zionist Agenda.
They knew that Lieberman would lose, and Rove planned a full frontal attack for the aftermath – which by necessity always leads with a terror scare. Rove even called Lieberman directly to offer his help.
As part of the game – a CNN talking head asks the question…
"Lamont is the Al Qaeda Candidate???"
KARL ROVE WROTE THAT TALKING POINT.
CNN READ IT ON AIR.
"When did you stop beating your wife?"
Equally loaded questions.
CNN's behavior is not coincidental.
Within 10 minutes of the second twin tower being hit in the World Trade Center... CNN said Osama bin Laden had done it. That was a planned piece of disinformation by the real perpetrators. It created an instant mindset and put public opinion into a trance, which prevented even intelligent people from thinking for themselves.
This was clearly an inside job.
Karl Rove had advance knowledge of EVERY TERROR ALERT since Bush took office in 2000.
Because he creates them.
"T H E
A R C H I T E C T"
O F
T E R R O R
I S
K A R L
R O V E
Bin Laden does not exist - and no one can prove that he does.
There were NO hijackers aboard any planes on 9/11.
Their names are not found on any flight manifest.
What does Occam's Razor tell you about the ODDS that NORAD would be running a series of drills on the morning of 9/11 designed specifically to simulate an attack against America involving hijacked planes flown into buildings?
What does Occam's Razor tell you about FEMA having been prepositioned in New York for the drill - which commenced at the same moment the first tower was struck?
What does Occam's Razor tell you about the warning sent to Israeli Nationals two hours before the first plane struck?
Ignoring everything you have seen and heard to brainwash you to the contrary in its aftermath, what are the odds that a man in a cave could beat all of the defenses of the United States of America by coincidentally timing his attack to coincide with a total shut down of NORAD?
Occam's razor states that the explanation of any phenomenon should make as few assumptions as possible, eliminating, or "shaving off", those that make no difference in the observable predictions of the explanatory hypothesis or theory.
Pieces of aircraft were scattered over a five mile area in Pennsylvania.
WTC 7 - though untouched by an aircraft, fell directly into its own footprint less than two hours after its owner ordered the fire department to pull back from the structure in order to "pull it."
5 Israeli Mossad Agents with explosives expertise were arrested for filming the destruction of the twin towers. Their film has never been made public. They failed seven polygraph tests. They were quietly deported to Israel.
Norm Mineta testified before the 9/11 Commission that he personally witnessed Cheney commanding one of his subordinates in the bunker on the morning of 9/11 to allow the approaching aircraft to strike the Pentagon uncontested.
The manuevers made by the planes that struck both the Pentagon and the second WTC tower could not possibly have been made by any first time pilot - according to aviation experts.
O C C A M ' S
R A Z O R
I N D E E D ! ! !
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Posted by plunger at 09/11/2006 @ 10:46am
Sliver,
Do you think that GWB even knew who OBL was when he got the report about OBL being determined to stike the USA? Do you think that Gore's reaction would have been to clear some more brush in Crawford upon receiving that report?
Come on we're talking about a President that carried on reading My Pet Goat instead of excusing himself to give NORAD Presidential authority to shoot down civilian planes.
Posted by freedomplease at 09/11/2006 @ 10:47am
CHENEY, HALLIBURTON, THE BUSH FAMILY, AND ASBESTOS
Dick Cheney, Halliburton, Inc., and, reportedly, the Bush family are surprisingly well acquainted with asbestos-related concerns. [7]
On December 18, 2002, CBS News reported that Halliburton "has agreed to pay about $4 billion in cash and stock to settle hundreds of thousands of asbestos claims against it." Reportedly, Halliburton inherited its asbestos liability from Harbison-Walker, a unit of Halliburton's subsidiary Dresser Industries, and from Halliburton's Kellog Brown & Root subsidiary.
On December 13, 2001, the World Socialist Web Site reported that "During the 2000 election campaign critics noted that in the last several years Cheney and Halliburton had contributed $157,500 to congressional candidates who had co-sponsored legislation to cut off victims' rights to a fair recovery when injured or killed as a result of asbestos exposure."
And on August 11, 2002, The Olympian (from Olympia, WA), carried a Washington Post article noting that:
"Dresser had close ties to a family Cheney knew well: the Bushes. Cheney's boss while he served as Secretary of Defense, President George H.W. Bush, was once being groomed to run Dresser, a company that Bush's father and grandfather had reshaped decades earlier.
When Dresser went public in the 1920s, it turned to W.A. Harriman & Co., whose president was George Herbert Walker, grandfather and namesake to former president Bush. Prescott Bush, the former president's father, helped organize Dresser and select its new president, H. Neil Mallon. Prescott Bush eventually sat on the board and by 1941, still held 1,900 shares of Dresser stock. Mallon was so close to former president Bush that he described him in his autobiography as "surrogate uncle and father-confessor." One of his sons, Neil Mallon Bush, is named after him. After World War II, Mallon employed George H.W. Bush and Dresser executives expected him to take over the company, according to journalist Darwin Payne, who wrote a history of Dresser. Instead, the former president left to prospect for oil.
While Cheney saw sound business reasons for acquiring Dresser, there was a problem in its past -- the use of asbestos in Harbison-Walker division products."
GW included the issue in his State of the Union speech in 2005.
"To make our economy stronger and more competitive, America must reward, not punish, the efforts and dreams of entrepreneurs. Small business is the path of advancement, especially for women and minorities, so we must free small businesses from needless regulation and protect honest job-creators from junk lawsuits. (Applause.) Justice is distorted, and our economy is held back by irresponsible class-actions and frivolous asbestos claims -- and I urge Congress to pass legal reforms this year."
Posted by plunger at 09/11/2006 @ 10:48am
GW included the issue in his State of the Union speech in 2005.
"To make our economy stronger and more competitive, America must reward, not punish, the efforts and dreams of entrepreneurs. Small business is the path of advancement, especially for women and minorities, so we must free small businesses from needless regulation and protect honest job-creators from junk lawsuits. (Applause.) Justice is distorted, and our economy is held back by irresponsible class-actions and frivolous asbestos claims -- and I urge Congress to pass legal reforms this year."
ASBESTOS AT GROUND ZERO?
WOW, WHAT A COINCIDENCE!
WHAT WOULD THE DEMO COST HAVE BEEN TO DISMANTLE THE TOWERS IN ANY OTHER WAY - GIVEN THAT THEY WERE FULL OF ASBESTOS?
WOW, WHAT A COINCIDENCE!
Larry Silverstein's "PullIt!" Confession Video:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7750532340306101329&q=silverste in&hl=en
WOW, WHAT A COINCIDENCE!
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Posted by plunger at 09/11/2006 @ 10:50am
BLUETEXAN
Rightly so? the fate of the earth? lets see global warming if you believe in all the impending doom predictions, ala that silly movie that had the US freezing over, those predictions will take some time, now terrorists in the ME if they get that nuke that Iran wants to give them, then THAT would pose a more significant threat.....my goodness and you DEMS to protect us? lolol
Posted by CPT at 09/11/2006 @ 10:50am
Indict Dick Cheney for Fraud.
http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?040216fa_fact
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/09/26/politics/main575356.shtml
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/07/20030711-7.html
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/07/20030714-4.html
The outing of Valarie Plame falls into precisely the same category, as it was specifically designed to ensure that the lead up to war continued apace...
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/10/20031001-6.html
Consummate diplomats like Wilson typically do not speak of "lies." So outraged was Wilson, though, that this bogus story had been used to "justify" an unprovoked war, that he made a point to note that the already proven dishonesty begs the question regarding "what else they are lying about."
It was a double whammy. And, as is now well known, the White House moved swiftly-if clumsily (and apparently illegally)-to retaliate.
It was clear from the start that Vice President Dick Cheney and Kemosabe (Amer. Indian for "Scotter") Libby, as well as Karl Rove, were taking the lead in this operation to make an object lesson of Wilson and his wife.
http://www.counterpunch.org/mcgovern10202005.html
But there is abundant evidence that senior White House officials were aware of the CIA's doubts regarding the Niger story long before the State of the Union. Nearly a year earlier, in February 2002, the CIA had dispatched former Ambassador Joseph Wilson to Niger to investigate the claim about uranium purchases. When the CIA debriefed him in March, his findings were emphatic: As Wilson explained in a New York Times op-ed on July 6, "It did not take long to conclude that it was highly doubtful that any such transaction had ever taken place." CIA Director George Tenet claimed on July 11 that Wilson was sent to Niger by junior nonproliferation experts at the CIA acting "on their own initiative" and that senior administration officials were unaware of his mission. But this is not true. Wilson was told by CIA officials that the mission had been specifically requested by the office of the vice president. Indeed, Dick Cheney's chief of staff, Lewis "Scooter" Libby, told Time magazine that Cheney had "asked a question about the implication of the [uranium] report." And, as Wilson tells The New Republic, "When an executive agency is tasked to find something out and it gets an answer, it goes back to the person who requested it." For the White House to suggest that Cheney's office was unaware of the results of Wilson's inquiry strains credulity.
Moreover, there is strong evidence that the CIA clearly conveyed its doubts about the Niger allegation to the White House on more than one occasion prior to the State of the Union. When Bush wanted to include the claim in an October 7, 2002, speech in Cincinnati, Tenet personally intervened, imploring Condoleezza Rice's National Security Council (NSC) deputy, Stephen Hadley, to cut the allegation from the speech, which he did. The idea that no one involved with the State of the Union was aware of this earlier, emphatic intervention is implausible. And when the latter speech was being written, the CIA again raised questions about the Niger assertion. According to The New York Times, when NSC proliferation staffer Robert G. Joseph called his CIA counterpart, Alan Foley, to ask about including the allegation in the State of the Union, Foley told Joseph the CIA was not confident about the information.
http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=20030728&s=editorial072803
Indict Vice President Cheney. Put him under oath.
Posted by plunger at 09/11/2006 @ 10:50am
That story about Halliburton acquiring the asbestos liabilities of Dresser Industries raises an interesting point...
Cheney KNEW that Dresser had the most massive liability issue on planet earth (he had to have known) yet decided to pay good money to bring Dresser's problems under Halliburton's tent.
This raises the question...who were the largest shareholders of Dresser - in need of a lifeboat to save their own personal bacon? Anyone named Bush? Anyone named Carlyle?
The deal went like this:
Cheney agrees for Halliburton to take on the Dresser asbestos liability.
It is determined that Bush and Cheney will be (s)elected, and that the PNAC plan will be implemented - using 9/11 as the essential pretext.
Ken Lay plays his role using his Enron smoke and mirrors tactics to create a faux energy crisis in California, causing the public to demand an energy-savvy administration be elected.
With the asbestos liability and other matters hanging in the balance, the election of 2000 simply had to be rigged in order for the plan to go in to effect.
Following the appointment of Bush and Cheney, the secret energy planning meeting established which oil companies would reap the rewards of the pending invasion of Afghanistan, Iraq and Iran.
The timing and the pretext were predetermined, and 9/11 was greenlighted for 9/11/2001. Cheney outsourced the implementation to Mossad, and ran the show from his bunker on D Day under the cover of preplanned drills simulating the exact attack that was proscribed, with NORAD as coconspirator. At least 50 administration officials and countless foreign agents were in on it.
Once the entire charade was concluded, the Administration generally, and Cheney specifically, had every reason in the world to blame Iraq.
The Afghanistan mission could not provide Halliburton with enough revenue to offset the massive asbestos liability claim. Iraq and Iran are essential wars in order to provide cover for the infusion of the billion of TAX DOLLARS necessary to both profit Halliburton for its actual work AND cover the massive asbestos liability claims.
Now you know why Halliburton was awarded the contracts without the need to bid for them. This was all prearranged.
NOTE: Private enterprise pushed its legal/financial obligations onto tax payers using war as the excuse.
The asbestos liability claims of Dresser Industries were ultimately paid by you and me, and our troops in the field, all to ensure that the investors in Dresser didn't take the multibillion dollar loss.
Just one piece of a very large chessboard.
Hang them for TREASON.
Posted by plunger at 09/11/2006 @ 10:51am
President that carried on reading My Pet Goat instead of excusing himself to give NORAD Presidential authority to shoot down civilian planes.
Posted by FREEDOMPLEASE 09/11/2006 @ 10:47am | ignore this person
What a silly statement, you might win a casual oberver with that stupid assertion, but not many rational people..that would not have happened...even if he sprung up like a wild man that instant.
Posted by CPT at 09/11/2006 @ 10:53am
Conspiracy Flashback to the Ford Administration - and look who is running the ANTHRAX coverup...
http://www.frankolsonproject.org/Articulations/Script-CodeNameArtichoke. html
The conspiracy originated at the top, in the White House, initiated by Donald Rumsfeld and Richard Cheney. It had just been learned that the CIA allegedly drugged its employee Frank Olson with LSD before his supposed suicide.
Rumsfeld and Cheney, heads of the White House chiefs of staff, at the time recommended to President Gerald Ford that he apologize to the family in the name of the government, and to support retribution. In order to prevent worse things from happening. That's the content of this White House memo:
49.21 "There (is...) the possibility that it might be necessary to disclose highly classified national security information in connection with any court suit or legislative hearings."
49.38 Ten days later, Ford hosted the Olson family and apologized. This allowed him to remain silent about state secrets – and the true reasons for Frank Olson's death.
49.52 Voice of Eric Olson "What this means for me is that a national security homicide is not only a possibility, but really it is a necessity, when you have a certain number of ingredients together.
If you are doing top secret work that is immoral, arguably immoral, especially in the post-Nuremberg period, and arguably illegal, and at odds with the kind of high moral position you are trying to maintain in the world, then you have to have a mechanism of security which is going to include murder."
50.26 The two politicians who collaborated in the conspiracy in 1975, Rumsfeld and Cheney, are back in power. As vice president and secretary of defense of the government of the United States.
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US DOMESTIC GOVERNMENT SPONSORED TERROR AGAINST THE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES.
Daschle: Congress Denied Bush War Powers AND DOMESTIC SPYING in U.S.
By Barton Gellman Washington Post Staff Writer Friday, December 23, 2005; Page A04
The Bush administration requested, and Congress rejected, war-making authority "in the United States" in negotiations over the joint resolution passed days after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, according to an opinion article by former Senate majority leader Thomas A. Daschle (D-S.D.) in today's Washington Post.
Daschle's disclosure challenges a central legal argument offered by the White House in defense of the National Security Agency's warrantless wiretapping of U.S. citizens and permanent residents. It suggests that Congress refused explicitly to grant authority that the Bush administration now asserts is implicit in the resolution.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/22/AR2...
And then...a few weeks later...
W A S H I N G T O N, Nov. 1 A group of military scientists is feverishly examining the microscopic spores of anthrax sent to Sen. Tom Daschle for clues to a mystery that could have profound implications for the United States and its ongoing war on terror: Who made it?
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92006&page=1......
REMEMBER THE ANTHRAX ATTACKS AGAINST CONGRESS AND THE MEDIA?
US DOMESTIC GOVERNMENT SPONSORED TERROR AGAINST THE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES.
GOOGLE: "FALSE FLAG TERROR"
Posted by plunger at 09/11/2006 @ 10:54am
CPT,
Explain to us non-miltary people who (as of September 11, 2001) can give NORAD authority to shoot down commercial airliners.
Posted by freedomplease at 09/11/2006 @ 10:57am
Explain to patriotic Americans the story of the Dancing Israelis - and why they were set free without charges after celebrating the destruction of the twin towers and failing SEVEN polygraph tests.
Was this matter properly investigated?
Have you seen the video tape they shot of themselves celebrating while the towers fell behind them in the distance?
Have you heard the audio from that tape to learn what they may have said?
No?
Why Not?
http://www.sundayherald.com/37707
Was it these five Mossad Agents who set the charges in the towers in the days prior to 9/11? They had significant training with explosives. Were they celebrating their handywork?
Why don't you know what/why they were celebrating - while the rest of us cried?
Why did Michael Chertoff take it upon himself to bury the story and quietly deport them?
Why did FOX pull this story off their web site?
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7545.htm
And what's up with this official DEA report:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/deareportisraelispying.html
We are AMERICANS for chrissake!
Can you finish this sentence?
"I pledge allegiance...
According to ABC's 20/20, when the van belonging to the cheering Israelis was stopped by the police, the driver of the van, Sivan Kurzberg, told the officers:
"We are Israelis. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are your problem."
The Israelis worked for a Weehawken moving company known as Urban Moving Systems. An American employee of Urban Moving Systems told the The Record of New Jersey that a majority of his co-workers were Israelis and they were joking about the attacks.
The employee, who declined to give his name said: "I was in tears. These guys were joking and that bothered me. These guys were like, "Now America knows what we go through."
It was later confirmed that the five detained Israelis were in fact Mossad agents. They were held in custody for 71 days before being quietly released. Some of the movers had been kept in solitary confinement for 40 days.
Several of the detainees discussed their experience in America on an Israeli talk show after their return home.
Said one of the men, denying that they were laughing or happy on the morning of Sept. 11, "The fact of the matter is we are coming from a country that experiences terror daily. Our purpose was to document the event."
How did they know there would be an event to document on 9/11?
It doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to connect the dots of the dancing Israeli Mossad agents
"Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It's classified information."
US official quoted in Carl Cameron's Fox News report.
According to ABCNEWS sources, Israeli and U.S. government officials worked out a deal -- and after 71 days, the five Israelis were taken out of jail, put on a plane, and deported back home.
The men all underwent at least two polygraph tests each, the lawyer added. He said one of the Israelis took the test seven times, a very unusual total according to several polygraph experts interviewed by the Forward. All failed their tests.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/Artstudents.htm
http://killtown.blogspot.com/2005/11/dancing-israelis-on-911.html
Posted by plunger at 09/11/2006 @ 10:57am
Bush would be incompetent to be the President of the United States that you have in your mind.
That place does not exist.
He is not the President of anything.
He is playing his part.
He is doing precisely as his handlers instruct him.
Here in reality, things only appear to go wrong.
You're using pre-9/11 thinking.
Since the Military Coup, reality has been stood on its head.
You will never make sense of anything using your pre-coup mind.
The media is just as controlled by the Government as was Pravda in the Soviet Union.
The illusion of incompetence is all by design.
Karl Rove is the ARCHITECT OF DISREALITY.
Here in reality:
KARL ROVE IS A TERRORIST
It's time to see with new eyes.
.
Posted by plunger at 09/11/2006 @ 11:00am
Posted by CPT 09/11/2006 @ 10:50am
Hey CPT, thanks for that postcard from wingnut-ville. Hope all is well. Signed up any more canon foder lately? Hope not.
Posted by BlueTexan at 09/11/2006 @ 11:03am
Colin Powell in four-letter neo-con 'crazies' row
Martin Bright Sunday September 12, 2004 The Observer
A furious row has broken out over claims in a new book by BBC broadcaster James Naughtie that US Secretary of State Colin Powell described neo-conservatives in the Bush administration as 'fucking crazies' during the build-up to war in Iraq.
Powell's extraordinary outburst is alleged to have taken place during a telephone conversation with Foreign Secretary Jack Straw. The two became close friends during the intense negotiations in the summer of 2002 to build an international coalition for intervention via the United Nations. The 'crazies' are said to be Vice-President Dick Cheney, Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and his deputy, Paul Wolfowitz.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1302834,00.html...
Crazy enough to attack its own people?
According to Colin Powell, then US Secretary of State...the answer was a resounding:
"FUCKING CRAZY!"
Posted by plunger at 09/11/2006 @ 11:12am
Starting my Christmas shopping....
So I guess that "Debunking 9/11 Myths: Why Conspiracy Theories Can't Stand Up to the Facts (Paperback) by The Editors of Popular Mechanics, John McCain (Foreword), David Dunbar (Editor), Brad Reagan (Editor)"
is off PLUNGER's list, huh?
Posted by Mask at 09/11/2006 @ 11:21am
does anyone actually have any comments about the article? or cheney's appearance? or bush's appearance last week? we now know, as corn has pointed out, that both bush and cheney have not a single solid piece of evidence to back up any of their original claims for going into iraq.
that the people of this country are not currently storming the white house in protest is proof that.........nobody really cares anymore. and this is precisely what republicans want: complacency.
in fact, cheney just said that anyone who talks about the war (talks about!) is emboldening the enemy. is anyone else blown away by this statement?
Posted by darladoon at 09/11/2006 @ 11:29am
Posted by DARLADOON 09/11/2006 @ 11:29am
DARLA, I think everybody knows everything at this point.
The war is hugely unpopular and likely to cost the GOP the House, maybe the Senate. Bush's poll numbers in the tank and not likely to rise again above 40%. Cheney's worse than Saddam's practically.
But the point of this article...was to sell books!
Posted by Mask at 09/11/2006 @ 11:37am
if cheney and bush were interviewed by the european press, they would be destroyed. corn is still to the right of most of the european press, believe it or not, when it comes to iraq.
i love corn, but he's the one who should be interviewing cheney, not russert.
Posted by darladoon at 09/11/2006 @ 11:40am
bullshit, mask.
the point of the article was to review cheney's interview from yesterday.
Posted by darladoon at 09/11/2006 @ 11:41am
i don't think anyone here fully comprehends what this means:
bush and cheney are guilty of mass murder. of squandering billions.
what else? this is horrendous.
Posted by darladoon at 09/11/2006 @ 11:48am
Repeat, Vice President Richard Cheney is disconnected from reality, he proved it on National TV. He is a liar and a fraud. Russert did a fine job, even getting in some licks about when Cheney SHOT A MAN IN THE FACE, then did not notify the police for 16 hrs. where was this "lil Russ' back in 2002-3?
CPT thinks the Commander in Chief's response, that chimpy "did not want to scare the children" is the real reason he froze on 9/11. He was saving it for the rest of us to use in the next 3 campaigns?
So we know: no wmd's in Iraq
no connection between Al-Qaida and Saddam
Usama is free
terrorist attacks worldwide are UP since 9/11.
We are in debt up to our noses.
sing us some more pretty songs about the effectiveness and truth-fullness of our executive branch, oh blindly faithful neo-cons. Tell us why all of that info that Clinton had and never acted upon was trash canned when dumbya assumed power. Show us the crater where he tried to get Usama in Aug of 2001. Show me the road map to peace in the middle east.
Posted by crabwalk at 09/11/2006 @ 11:49am
yes, Corn wants to sell his book. Yes he mentions it too much. that is capitalistic self promotion, thats America.
Posted by crabwalk at 09/11/2006 @ 11:50am
"U.S. Sen. Bill Nelson said the Bush administration last year told him and 75 other senators that Iraq not only had weapons of mass destruction, but they had the means to deliver them to East Coast cities." The White House directed questions about the matter to the Department of Defense (who had no comment), despite the fact that the President himself had made a similar claim in a speech on 10/7/02. Nelson said the senators were told Iraq had both biological and chemical weapons, notably anthrax, and it could deliver them to cities along the Eastern seaboard via unmanned aerial vehicles, commonly known as drones.
Cheney himself told Meet the Press, "We know that [Saddam] has a long-standing relationship with the al-Qaeda organization."
Cheney, who in the rush to war six days before invasion, told Meet the Press without proof that "Iraq has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons."
When confronted with a report from the International Atomic Energy Agency that directly contradicted him, he said simply "[IAEA Director] Elbaradei is, frankly, wrong." (Cheney was since forced to correct his statements).
http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=38330
THAT WAS THEN....THIS IS NOW:
The most amazing moment came near the end, when Russert asked Cheney whether Mohamed ElBaradei, Director General of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), had not been correct that Iraq had no nuclear weapons. Cheney responded, "I haven't, I haven't looked at it. I'd have to go back and look at it again."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stephen-kaus/meet-the-ignoramus-russ_b_291 45.html
"I haven't looked at it. I'd have to go back and look at it again."
Vice Liar Cheney .
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Posted by plunger at 09/11/2006 @ 11:54am
Tell us again, oh wise neo cons, how anybody that said there was no connection between Saddam and Usama and that the head of the IAEA was correct in his assesments of tubes and nukyoolar capabilities were appeasers, cowards and un-patriotic.
so we have, if you beleive the truth you are un-American. If you buy the lies of the Admin, and too many leading dems, you are a patriot. Fascinating!!
Posted by crabwalk at 09/11/2006 @ 12:01pm
Posted by FRANKGRITS 09/11/2006 @ 12:01am
Like the man said, Chip. don't let the deaths of so many be wasted on lies and deception. Be more like the 9/11 "whores" and ask for the truth from your man. It may set you free.
Posted by crabwalk at 09/11/2006 @ 12:04pm
How come Cheney has not read the Senate report? Isn't that his job? Isn't that how you protect America, by learning from past mistakes? What is he doing with his time, other than fear mongering and fund raising?
Posted by crabwalk at 09/11/2006 @ 12:07pm
If pointing out that VP of the United States, a man literally a heartbeat away from the presidency (and God knows what other lies and horrors he would unleash if he actually became president), that he continues to spit on the graves of thousands of American soldiers and civilians with his lies even after being debunked everywhere isn't worth discussing on today of all days, I don't know what is.
Posted by New Dawn at 09/11/2006 @ 12:07pm
Posted by CRABWALK 09/11/2006 @ 11:50am
Posted by FRANKGRITS 09/11/2006 @ 12:07am
All I was saying FRANK and CRAB....yet this somehow seems to perturb you?
BTW, FRANK...love to see any complimentary things I've said about Coulter, except the fact she seems to sell MORE books the more attention the Hard Left pays to her!
Posted by Mask at 09/11/2006 @ 12:11pm
Posted by DARLADOON 09/11/2006 @ 11:41am
Take it up with CRAB and FRANK...loathing to, I'm sure, but they agreed with me.
Posted by Mask at 09/11/2006 @ 12:13pm
This wonderful article De-bunks the shoddy Senate Report on AQ and Saddam.
ONCE AGAIN headlines from media outlets around the country declare "No Saddam, al-Qaeda link." This time the news cycle is being fed by the release of two reports by the Senate Intelligence Committee, both of which purport to investigate the uses of prewar intelligence. The first of these two reports, titled "Postwar Findings about Iraq's WMD Programs and Links to Terrorism and How They Compare with Prewar Assessments," has pleased Democrats.
Senator Carl Levin says that the report is "a devastating indictment of the Bush-Cheney administration's unrelenting, misleading, and deceptive attempts" to connect Saddam's regime to bin Laden's al Qaeda. Senator Jay Rockefeller agrees with Senator Levin's assessment, saying the report will confirm that "the Bush administration's case for war in Iraq was fundamentally misleading."
But beyond the obvious political gamesmanship, there is little merit to this posturing because there is little serious analysis in the Senate report: Far from providing the definitive word on Saddam's ties to al Qaeda, the report is almost worthless.
CONSIDER TWO BRIEF examples, chosen from many:
The committee's staff made little effort to determine whether or not the testimony of former Iraqi regime officials was truthful. In fact, Saddam Hussein and several of his top operatives--all of whom have an obvious incentive to lie--are cited or quoted without caveats of any sort. In Saddam's debriefing it was suggested that he may cooperate with al Qaeda because "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." According to the report, "Saddam answered that the United States was not Iraq's enemy. He claimed that Iraq only opposed U.S. policies. He specified that if he wanted to cooperate with the enemies of the U.S., he would have allied with North Korea or China."
Anyone with even a partial recollection of the controversy surrounding Iraq in the 1990s will recall that Saddam made it a habit of cursing and threatening the United States. His annual January "Army Day" speeches were laced with threats and promises of retaliation against American assets. That is, when Saddam claimed that the United States was "not Iraq's enemy," he was quite obviously lying. But nowhere in the staff's report is it noted that Saddam's debriefing was substantially at odds with more than a decade of his rhetoric.
The testimony of another former senior Iraqi official is more starkly disturbing. One of Saddam's senior intelligence operatives, Faruq Hijazi, was questioned about his contacts with bin Laden and al Qaeda. There is a substantial body of reporting on Hijazi's ties to al Qaeda throughout the 1990s.
Hijazi admitted to meeting bin Laden once in 1995, but claimed that "this was his sole meeting with bin Ladin or a member of al Qaeda and he is not aware of any other individual following up on the initial contact."
This is not true. Hijazi's best known contact with bin Laden came in December 1998, days after the Clinton administration's Operation Desert Fox concluded. We know the meeting happened because the worldwide media reported it. The meeting took place on December 21, 1998. And just days later, Osama bin Laden warned, "The British and the American people loudly declared their support for their leaders decision to attack Iraq. It is the duty of Muslims to confront, fight, and kill them."
Reports of the alliance became so prevalent that in February 1998 Richard Clarke worried in an email to Sandy Berger, President Clinton's National Security adviser, that if bin Laden were flushed from Afghanistan he would probably just "boogie to Baghdad." Today, Clarke has made a habit of denying that Iraq and al Qaeda were at all connected.
There is a voluminous body of evidence surrounding this December 1998 meeting between Hijazi and bin Laden--yet there is not a single mention of it in the committee's report. THE WEEKLY STANDARD asked the staffers "Why not?" They replied that there was no evidence of the meeting in the intelligence or documents they reviewed.
That's hard to believe. Newspapers such as Milan's Corriere Della Sera and London's Guardian, and the New York Post reported on it. Michael Scheuer, who was the first head of the bin Laden unit from 1996 to 1999, approvingly cited several of these accounts (before his own flip-flop on the issue) in his 2002 book, Through Our Enemies Eyes. Scheuer wrote that Saddam made Hijazi responsible for "nurturing Iraq's ties to [Islamic] fundamentalist warriors," including al Qaeda.
All of this obviously contradicts Hijazi's debriefing; none of it is cited in the committee's report.
THE MEDIA HAS ALSO BEEN QUICK to cite the report's conclusions concerning Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's relationship (or lack thereof) with Saddam's regime. But once again the committee's staff overlooked much contradictory evidence. The report concludes, "Postwar information indicates that Saddam Hussein attempted, unsuccessfully, to locate and capture al-Zarqawi and that the regime did not have a relationship with, harbor, or turn a blind eye toward Zarqawi."
The staff cites debriefings which support this conclusion, but do not give any weight at all to testimony which runs counter to it. For example, the Phase I Senate Intelligence report noted that a top al Qaeda operative named Abu Zubaydah "indicated that he heard that an important al-Qaida associate, Abu Mus'ab al-Zarqawi, and others had good relationships with Iraqi intelligence."
Zubaydah's testimony has since been further corroborated by a known al Qaeda ideologue, Dr. Muhammad al-Masari. Al-Masari operated the Committee for the Defense of Legitimate Rights, a Saudi oppositionist group and al Qaeda front, out of London for more than decade. He told the editor-in-chief of Al-Quds Al-Arabi that Saddam "established contact with the 'Afghan Arabs' as early as 2001, believing he would be targeted by the U.S. once the Taliban was routed." Furthermore, "Saddam funded Al-Qaeda operatives to move into Iraq with the proviso that they would not undermine his regime."
Al-Masari claimed that Saddam's regime actively aided Zarqawi and his men prior to the war and fully included them in his plans for a terrorist insurgency. He said Saddam "saw that Islam would be key to a cohesive resistance in the event of invasion." Iraqi officers bought "small plots of land from farmers in Sunni areas" and they buried "arms and money caches for later use by the resistance." Al-Masari also claimed that "Iraqi army commanders were ordered to become practicing Muslims and to adopt the language and spirit of the jihadis."
A cursory examination of Zarqawi's cell in Iraq reveals that many of his top operatives were once Saddam's military and intelligence officers. It appears, therefore, al-Masari's testimony should be taken seriously.
Yet, neither Abu Zubaydah's nor Al-Masari's statements are given any weight by the committee. Nor did they bother to examine who it was, exactly, that Zarqawi was working with in Iraq. Not that any of this matters, of course. This reports was never really about investigating the relationship between Saddam's regime and al Qaeda.
It was about giving certain senators more ammunition against the president.
Thomas Joscelyn is an economist and writer living in New York.
Posted by CPT at 09/11/2006 @ 12:26pm
CPT,
"ala that silly movie that had the US freezing over"
Forget it..no one here is really grounded...Gores head froze over years ago...the country sigh a collective gasp or relief after 9/11 precisely because Gore was nowhere around..he couldn't hurt anything...and no one takes Gores seriously except here...
Posted by john maasch at 09/11/2006 @ 12:30pm
Posted by CRABWALK 09/11/2006 @ 12:07am
Maybe "the Decider" decided he didn't need to read it!
Posted by CRABWALK 09/11/2006 @ 11:49am
"I truly am not that concerned about him" President George W Bush on March 13, 2002.
"Gosh, I just don't think I ever said I'm not worried about Osama bin Laden. It's kind of one of those exaggerations." President George W Bush during the 2004 Presidential debates
Posted by DARLADOON 09/11/2006 @ 11:48am
But is was all to protect us...so don't ask questions. Just pay taxes, be happy and pretend the world is fine....
Posted by leftofcenter at 09/11/2006 @ 12:30pm
I smell desparation and fear.
Posted by New Dawn at 09/11/2006 @ 12:32pm
""Cheney, 9/11 and the Truth about Iraq" "
I love the title...as if Corn would know...all the reaserch and he misses the biggest ruth of the day...White House not involved in Plame blow out or conspiracy...and now he has found the truth about Cheney and 9/11? Please.
Posted by john maasch at 09/11/2006 @ 12:34pm
.
60 Minutes: White House Officials Changed EPA Reports after 9/11 http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/September2006/110906EPA.htm...
More people dying because of PNAC deceiving...
By: Hirnlego on September 11, 2006 at 11:47am
Silverstein took over the lease of the WTC just months prior to 9/11 DESPITE the fact that they were dinosaurs in need of replacement at some future date on his watch AND CONTAINED ASBESTOS.
Think about it.
Would there be ANY acceptable way to bring down these towers AND control the asbestos therein?
Taking down a building that contains asbestos is an expensive and tedious process that require the use of water to keep the dust down.
Given their extreme height - there was likely NOW WAY to bring them down safely when they had outlived their useful life.
THIS WAS A PLANNED DEMOLITION.
Who was on the hook for the cost of the ASBESTOS-RELATED COSTS of taking these structures down when the time cam?
HALIBURTON.
Coincidence?
CHENEY, HALLIBURTON, THE BUSH FAMILY, AND ASBESTOS
Dick Cheney, Halliburton, Inc., and, reportedly, the Bush family are surprisingly well acquainted with asbestos-related concerns. [7]
On December 18, 2002, CBS News reported that Halliburton "has agreed to pay about $4 billion in cash and stock to settle hundreds of thousands of asbestos claims against it." Reportedly, Halliburton inherited its asbestos liability from Harbison-Walker, a unit of Halliburton's subsidiary Dresser Industries, and from Halliburton's Kellog Brown & Root subsidiary.
On December 13, 2001, the World Socialist Web Site reported that "During the 2000 election campaign critics noted that in the last several years Cheney and Halliburton had contributed $157,500 to congressional candidates who had co-sponsored legislation to cut off victims' rights to a fair recovery when injured or killed as a result of asbestos exposure."
And on August 11, 2002, The Olympian (from Olympia, WA), carried a Washington Post article noting that:
"Dresser had close ties to a family Cheney knew well: the Bushes. Cheney's boss while he served as Secretary of Defense, President George H.W. Bush, was once being groomed to run Dresser, a company that Bush's father and grandfather had reshaped decades earlier.
When Dresser went public in the 1920s, it turned to W.A. Harriman & Co., whose president was George Herbert Walker, grandfather and namesake to former president Bush. Prescott Bush, the former president's father, helped organize Dresser and select its new president, H. Neil Mallon. Prescott Bush eventually sat on the board and by 1941, still held 1,900 shares of Dresser stock. Mallon was so close to former president Bush that he described him in his autobiography as "surrogate uncle and father-confessor." One of his sons, Neil Mallon Bush, is named after him. After World War II, Mallon employed George H.W. Bush and Dresser executives expected him to take over the company, according to journalist Darwin Payne, who wrote a history of Dresser. Instead, the former president left to prospect for oil.
While Cheney saw sound business reasons for acquiring Dresser, there was a problem in its past -- the use of asbestos in Harbison-Walker division products."
GW included the issue in his State of the Union speech in 2005.
"To make our economy stronger and more competitive, America must reward, not punish, the efforts and dreams of entrepreneurs. Small business is the path of advancement, especially for women and minorities, so we must free small businesses from needless regulation and protect honest job-creators from junk lawsuits. (Applause.) Justice is distorted, and our economy is held back by irresponsible class-actions and frivolous asbestos claims -- and I urge Congress to pass legal reforms this year."
T H E
S M O K I N G E S T
G U N
O F
9 / 1 1
I cannot say if Tower 1 and 2 fell as a result of the heat from the fires from fuel aboard the aircraft or as a result of the impact of the strike itself or from some other means.
I can state however with absolute certainty that Building # 7 was brought down by means of (controlled demolition) I am both a builder and a former demolitions trained professional of nearly thirty years. I defy anyone to come forward with a valid hypothesis as to how a forty-seven story building with over 50 load bearing column points can drop into its footprint by any other means. The laws of Physics cannot be broken nor hidden. I was there and have photos of the aftermath.
Building 7 was brought down by controlled demolition, that's more than a smoking gun, Its MASS MURDER!
By: pierreleclerke on August 09, 2006 at 11:09pm
LARRY SILVERSTEIN ON NATIONAL TELEVISION:
We had already had such terrible loss of life that day.
I decided that the right thing to do was to go ahead and pull the building (down).
I ordered the firefighters pulled back from WTC 7.
And then we pulled it (down).
NOTE:
It takes several days and plenty of expertise to wire a skyscraper with explosives in order to drop it straight into its footprint.
And that is precisely what occured.
GUILTY
He ordered the firefighters to back away from the building at 3:00.
He fired the detonators at 5:00.
The Mossad Agents who wired the building were at that point already under arrest in New Jersey.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html
http://www.forward.com/issues/2002/02.03.15/news2.html
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/spyring.html
http://www.antichristconspiracy.com/HTML%20Pages/ABCNEWS_com_Were_Israel is_Detained_Sept_11_Spies.htm
http://ww1.sundayherald.com/print37707
Now can you help me out with a plausible explanation for this:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7545.htm
And this official DEA report:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/deareportisraelispying.html
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/Artstudents.htm
http://killtown.blogspot.com/2005/11/dancing-israelis-on-911.html
F O R E K N O W L E D G E
P L A N N I N G
I N S I D E
J O B
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Posted by plunger at 09/11/2006 @ 12:34pm
CPT,
Well golly! If your boy Thomas Joscelyn is correct it means the Senate "intelligence" Committee are a bunch of dimwits or liars or both.....care to vote them out?
Maasch,
As stated had the will of the majority of the electorate been ratified by the Supreme Court.....9/11 wouldn't have happened. It's that simple.
Posted by freedomplease at 09/11/2006 @ 12:34pm
OK, Mr. Cheney, you've covered your ass now.
Posted by proudlib at 09/11/2006 @ 12:35pm
Damn those dirty liars on the Senate Intelligence Commmittee.
Wingnuts - Just stick your fingers in your ears and repeat
"Yes, they were, yes, they did, yes, there was... Yes, they were, yes, they did, yes, there was..."
If you repeat it enough, maybe it'll magically become true.
Posted by New Dawn at 09/11/2006 @ 12:37pm
CPT,
You still have not told me who had authority to order NORAD to shoot down commercial airliners on the day that George couldn't stop reading My Pet Goat.
Posted by freedomplease at 09/11/2006 @ 12:38pm
Freedom
How do you believe that even if, Bush pops up and gives that order that it would have matter? You are judging from hindsight, not an enviable position....After the second plane hit, then everyone knew the attack was on.
The only plane that it MIGHT have been able to intercept was the Pentagon plane....again...that plane had deviated from its path. If Bush had popped up right then and there and gave the order to shoot done any unaccounted for plane that had deviated it still would have taken time for interceptors to muster, get airborne and go to the EXACT spot where the plane was in order to shoot it down.
The argument that Bush could have stopped the pentagon attack is not at all conclusive...its specaluation at best...and more likely fantasy.
Posted by CPT at 09/11/2006 @ 12:40pm
"As stated had the will of the majority of the electorate been ratified by the Supreme Court.....9/11 wouldn't have happened. It's that simple."
There is the problem...its NOT that simple....these people were coming for us for years and I beg to differ about Gore being a deterent to anyone..he is a dolt..only thing missing are the bolts coming out of his neck.
And it is not the Supreme Courts job to ratify the majoritys will...it is to interpret the constitutional issuses and it did exactly that...
You really believe that the terrorists sat around and decided..Hey, Bush won, Lets bomb New York? These plans were on the way for along time and I don't think it mattered who was president..
Free, you are smarter than that..nothing is simple..
Gore had won mores votes from the public, but that is not how the election is decided here...I would love to see Gore run again....and so would all the repubs..
Posted by john maasch at 09/11/2006 @ 12:41pm
NEW DAWN
All the article says is that the Senate Report is shoddy work....not calling them liars.
Posted by CPT at 09/11/2006 @ 12:43pm
New DAWN
I thought you guys liked to question basic assumptions and authority? or is that only when it doesnt support your position?
Posted by CPT at 09/11/2006 @ 12:45pm
Nice dodge.
Posted by New Dawn at 09/11/2006 @ 12:45pm
debunk One entry found for debunk.
Main Entry: de·bunk Pronunciation: (")dE-'b&[ng]k Function: transitive verb : to expose the sham or falseness of - de·bunk·er noun
But no, you didn't mean to imply that their conclusions were intentionally wrong.
Posted by New Dawn at 09/11/2006 @ 12:47pm
Edited for CPT's delicate sensibilities:
Damn the incompetence and shoddy work of the Senate Intelligence Commmittee.
Wingnuts - Just stick your fingers in your ears and repeat
"Yes, they were, yes, they did, yes, there was... Yes, they were, yes, they did, yes, there was..."
If you repeat it enough, maybe it'll magically become true.
Posted by NEW DAWN 09/11/2006 @ 12:37am
Posted by New Dawn at 09/11/2006 @ 12:49pm
CPT,
Wow so you're telling me that the President knew that the plane that hadn't yet hit the Pentagon would be the last to reach its target so it wasn't neccessary for him to tear himself away from My Pet Goat and the kiddies!
At that point, how did your President know that there weren't hundreds of planes that were now missiles?
HE DIDN'T AND MORE IMPORTANTLY HE DIDN'T CARE.
I am not revising history. The plane that hit the Pentagon might have been unstoppable. That does not excuse the President's complete lack of being a "decider" when it most mattered.
Maasch,
I don't need to repeat myself 9/11 wouldn't have happened under Gore and I stated the reasons in my post at the beginning of this thread.
Posted by freedomplease at 09/11/2006 @ 12:54pm
Posted by FRANKGRITS 09/11/2006 @ 12:28am
FRANK, it was more than "just one line":
"It just so happens that in our new book, Hubris: The Inside Story of Spin, Scandal, and the Selling of the Iraq War, Michael Isikoff and I quote from that report..."
"One CIA analyst (whom we name for the first time in Hubris) was fiercely pushing..."
"And the nuclear scientists at the Department of Energy (again, as our book notes) were ordered..."
"INFO ON HUBRIS: Tom Brokaw says "Hubris is a bold and provocative book that will quickly become an explosive part of the national debate on how we got involved in Iraq." Hendrik Hertzberg, senior editor of The New Yorker notes, "The selling of Bush's Iraq debacle is one of the most important--and appalling--stories of the last half-century, and Michael Isikoff and David Corn have reported the hell out of it." For more information on Hubris, click here"
Posted by Mask at 09/11/2006 @ 12:56pm
Wonder why Mask hates capitalism.
Posted by New Dawn at 09/11/2006 @ 12:57pm
Did anyone catch Koppel's program last night and the Republican comment that he finds it disturbing to live in a world where anyone can "build a nuclear weapon out of materials they can buy at Home Depot"?
My lady and I almost fell out of our chairs.
Posted by New Dawn at 09/11/2006 @ 1:01pm
Free,
"I don't need to repeat myself 9/11 wouldn't have happened under Gore and I stated the reasons in my post at the beginning of this thread."
I know, I read it...my post still stands.
Posted by john maasch at 09/11/2006 @ 1:04pm
Chip -
Liberal writers are using 9/11 to push an agenda?
Given our current administration, that's a good one.
Thanks for the laugh.
Posted by Hman23 at 09/11/2006 @ 1:10pm
Maasch,
It is exceedingly unlikely that you read my post as your defense of why 9/11 happened on Bush's watch was because the terrorists had been planning it prior to Bush.
That doesn't explain why Bush refused to even ONCE meet with his own terrorist Czar. It doesn't explain why Bush refused to implement the Gore Report including strengthening cockpit doors, it doesn't explain why Bush didn't stop clearing brush in Crawford when given a report that stated OBL determined to strike US. It was OK to leave Crawford when Terri Schiavo's feeding tube was removed but the brush is sacrosanct when it's a mere terrorist attack coming?
Posted by freedomplease at 09/11/2006 @ 1:12pm
Wonder why Mask hates capitalism.
Posted by NEW DAWN 09/11/2006 @ 12:57am
NEW, I love capitalism.....I also love that YOU TOO just admitted that Mr Corn is promoting his book in this article. I got no problem with it, just noted it and mocked how this "serious article about Cheney" had numerous plugs for Mr Corn's book!
Some said yes, some said no....put you down in the "Y" column.
Posted by Mask at 09/11/2006 @ 1:21pm
Posted by FRANKGRITS 09/11/2006 @ 1:20pm
I'm sorry FRANK...was there an admission in there that you were wrong and that there WAS more than "just one line"?
Posted by Mask at 09/11/2006 @ 1:22pm
Posted by FRANKGRITS 09/11/2006 @ 1:43pm
Was wondering about the misplaced priorities myself.
Posted by New Dawn at 09/11/2006 @ 1:44pm
I think Mask is saying that it is "WORSE" for Corn to mention his book than for Cheney to lie.
Posted by New Dawn at 09/11/2006 @ 1:46pm
Posted by FRANKGRITS 09/11/2006 @ 1:43pm
Thanks for your "admission" of error, FRANK ("Whatever. It is not important"). Takes a real gentleman to off-handedly and obtusely admit he was wrong!
Cheney is a liar.....okay. I kinda figured that out a while back, atleast before Nov. 2004, when I stepped into voting booth and voted for John Kerry.
And Mr Corn would have had an excellent article...except for the fact that like his last THREE articles now, it was a COMMERCIAL for his book with Michael "Qu'rans in the Toilet" Isikoff.
And like I said to NEW DAWN, I got no problem with that....but I AM going to make fun of it and how it's ignored, then defended, by his sychophants here at the blog.
Maybe his next article could be about Autumn....with lines like "Fall brings such clear, crisp blue skies (like the blue sky you see behind Bush, Cheney, Rummy and Condi in my new book "Hubris" with Michael Isikoff)......the leaves turn a dark red color (like the dark red color of the words "HUBRIS", in my new book)....and we dream of sitting back and enjoying a Royal Crown Cola (Speaking of "Crown", Crown Publishing just released a new book....."
Posted by Mask at 09/11/2006 @ 1:52pm
All of that work, all of those posts, vilifying Corn, and Cheney gets off the hook with "Cheney is a liar.....okay", even though Cheney's lies led to continued support of a failed occupation that has cost thousands of lives.
Corn's attempts to sell books are still "worse" to Mask (and more worth mentioning) than Cheney's lies.
You're both lying assholes, and hypocrites, to boot.
I take back what I said earlier, Mask -- if you should happen to find yourself on fire, please let me know. I will happily piss on you.
Just not quite enough to put you out.
Posted by New Dawn at 09/11/2006 @ 1:58pm
Posted by NEW DAWN 09/11/2006 @ 1:58pm
See, unlike you, I'll CLEARLY state what is "worse" and what "doesn't equate"...
Cheney and his bullshit...MUCH, much WORSE than David Corn's self-promotion.
But given we already KNOW about Cheney's idiocy....and Mr Corn decided to spice it up with some plugs, thought I'd mention it.
Now....your turn. Which is "worse"...Japanese internment in the 40s or Bush's "color codes" and "pronouncments of terror threats"?
(One answer only please.....hehe)
Posted by Mask at 09/11/2006 @ 2:09pm
Worse how?
As an exercise in waging a five-year campign of terror about terror on the Amercian people?
Or as a stain on America, an abomination suspending civil liberties and decency towards American citizens?
Internment camps are definitely the latter, but not the former.
So, again, worse how, you liar?
Posted by New Dawn at 09/11/2006 @ 2:16pm
Posted by NEW DAWN 09/11/2006 @ 2:16pm
???...so the Japanese internment camps are ONLY "worse"...if NOT compared to Bush using "color codes" and "pronoucements" for the last five years?
Hmmm...okay, let's go ask the Okuda and Moriyama families if they would trade the three years at Tule Lake Relocation Camp, for "a five-year campign of terror about terror on the Amercian people".
Obviously, though you think internment was an abomination of suspended civil liberties...getting constant "Orange Alerts" for five years (that people started ignoring in Year Two) has to be "worse" somehow.
Posted by Mask at 09/11/2006 @ 3:07pm
Mask
Do you get paid to post on these threads at the Nation? Only one answer please.
Posted by jpolston at 09/11/2006 @ 3:32pm
As illustrated in Jeff Jacoby's excellent article, today's left bears no resemblance to that of previous generations. Those generations of liberal Americans were still Americans at heart.
Posted by LVLIBERTY1 09/11/2006 @ 3:31pm | ignore this person
Hate speech posted by Liberty......pretty darn Christian of you. Gosh, you must be right Liberty, liberals today aren't REAL Americans. Move along liberty........nobody wants to hear your preaching today.
Posted by jpolston at 09/11/2006 @ 3:36pm
Jpolston,
That lunatic LVL is still posting?
Let me take a wild stab.....it's a long post and has nothing to do with the topic at hand?
Am I close?
Posted by freedomplease at 09/11/2006 @ 3:39pm
CPT, I was just about to nominate you for "The Dumbest F*** That Posts Here" but then LVLIBERTY1 popped up.
Decisions, decisions.
Posted by fromredbird at 09/11/2006 @ 3:42pm
I think it's kind of pathetic to not give the CIA agents name, but just put a link to the book (Hubris)- it's so commercial and tacky.
I'm not going to buy your book to find out the guys name, and your job should be writing good articles, not pitching your book.
Posted by algae1970 at 09/11/2006 @ 4:09pm
Sorry, didnt mean to hit send. Hubris. Hubris. Hubris. Hubris.
I pay for a subscription to The Nation so can we please have it commercial-free??
Posted by algae1970 at 09/11/2006 @ 4:11pm
Posted by JPOLSTON 09/11/2006 @ 3:32pm
Naw, Jay...I do it for the kicks....the kicks, man...the kicks!
(some obscure 50s teen movie with either James Dean or Vic Morrow...hehe)
Posted by Mask at 09/11/2006 @ 4:24pm
Posted by JPOLSTON 09/11/2006 @ 3:36pm
By the way, Jay....no problem with the things Jacoby laid out in that article...from Randi Rhodes to that new movie?
Posted by Mask at 09/11/2006 @ 4:26pm
???...so the Japanese internment camps are ONLY "worse"...if NOT compared to Bush using "color codes" and "pronoucements" for the last five years?
Don't know how they can be "worse" if not compared to something else. You do know what "worse" means, right?
Hmmm...okay, let's go ask the Okuda and Moriyama families if they would trade the three years at Tule Lake Relocation Camp, for "a five-year campign of terror about terror on the Amercian people".
Three to five. I rest my case yet again. And you can remain willingly obtuse about my point, if you like - it reflects poorly on no one but you. Internment camps are not an example of a five-year campaign of terror about terror perpetrated on the American people.
Obviously, though you think internment was an abomination of suspended civil liberties...getting constant "Orange Alerts" for five years (that people started ignoring in Year Two) has to be "worse" somehow.
Posted by MASK 09/11/2006 @ 3:07pm
You remain a liar, Mask. That's irrefutable. The rest remains open to debate and individual interpretation.
The way you've continued to lie, libel, and misrepresent me for three days is repugnant and shameless, and you have only compounded it by trying to claim that I am the one with the ego that refuses to back down to bullshit statements, and by vilifying Corn (the messenger) over vilifying the liar, Cheney (the message, and incidentally, the biggest liar of the three of us, if any of us is to be accused of such a thing).
You could always do us all a favor and just shut your lying mouth, but you won't, because your ego is in the way. Your habit of posting first on almost every Nation thread speaks volumes in defense of my case.
You make me sick, and it should also be noted that neither "side" on this site has ever laid claim to you as one of their own.
You're scum, Mask. Lying scum.
Fuck you, buddy.
Posted by New Dawn at 09/11/2006 @ 5:12pm
Sorry, didnt mean to hit send. Hubris. Hubris. Hubris. Hubris.
I pay for a subscription to The Nation so can we please have it commercial-free??
Posted by ALGAE1970 09/11/2006 @ 4:11pm
I gave up my paid Nation subscription when I realized the net allows me access to global sources of information and opinion.
And as the resident moderate liberal whom even LoveLiberty admits "defies labeling" as "wacko left"... let me say this...
The Nation is no different than any other commentary and opinion outlet in the world, including Fox News and the writers of the Bible... in this:
Any human individual who commits their beliefs, opinions, and biases to the written form will expose those biases in their writing...
For those discerning readers willing to put forth the effort to identify the biases, separate the wheat from the chaff of those written discourses, and decide the truth for themselves by comparing those finite pieces with the larger available resource pool, Corn's mentioning his expose of this shameless breach of the American people's trust should come as no surprise, and is far less worth discussing than the Vice President's of the United States' continuing lies, the point of the article!!!
Smarten up. If you don't like that the Nation's writers are human (and capitalists, like every right- and most left-wing posters on these boards), you're destined for a lot of frustration posting here.
Thus speaks my magic 8-ball after a good shaking.
(Gotta remember to give the ball back to back to Georgie, quick, so he can figure out what to do do with Iran, Syria, and North Korea - damn my short-term memory)
Posted by New Dawn at 09/11/2006 @ 5:29pm
Posted by MASK 09/11/2006 @ 2:09pm
I swear I'm just going to start calling Mask-- Fidel. (Bwahahahah)
Posted by hsuBfools at 09/11/2006 @ 5:53pm
ABC, what's wrong with this picture:
Donald Rumsfeld
ABC News Poll. Sept. 5-7, 2006. N=1,003 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3. Fieldwork by TNS.
"Do you approve or disapprove of the way Donald Rumsfeld is handling his job as secretary of defense?"
__________Approve__Disapprove__Unsure
9/5-7/06_______42______49_______8
12/16-19/04____35______53______12
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
And the last time they polled on Dick-C.
ABC News/Washington Post Poll. April 19-22, 2001. N=1,350 adults nationwide.
"Do you approve or disapprove of the way Dick Cheney is handling his job as vice president?"
_______Approve__Disapprove__Don't Know
4/01_____64________19________17
Posted by hsuBfools at 09/11/2006 @ 6:03pm
I believe cheney knows the truth about Iraq. No one who is cynical enough to have had the complete opposite point of view all through the 90's could be so gullible.
the thing he can't say is that Iraq was a globalist experiment and not an elimination of an imminent threat. The idea was to help Iraq become a democracy which would IN TURN help us. this is how washington thinks. NAFTA was sold to americans as a solution to illegal immigration. the logic was the same: we were going to help Mexico's economy which would IN TURN help us. we wouldn't NEED a wall or crackdowns on employers.
this is why there isn't going to be significant immigration reform. our government doesn't believe in doing things that directly help americans. they think it's corny, natavistic and old fashioned.
they are also hung up on details while ignoring the bigger picture. they argue about NSA wiretapping when we have two massive unprotected borders. why would any terrorist call someone in the US at all when they could easily walk in through mexico? as thousands do? what are we going to say " this dirty bomb has made really destroyed New York, but at least they didn't get it here by making phone calls"
Israel is small enough that they can manage the security of their country. we don't have this luxury. eventually, we are going to be directed out of the middle east in a way we don't like unless we do it ourselves. and the wests "tolerance" of saudi funded wahabi mosques will insure radical islam is passed on to another generation.
Posted by lester1/2jr at 09/11/2006 @ 6:24pm
What I said regarding Japanese internment camps during WWII:
"Worse how?
As an exercise in waging a five-year campign of terror about terror on the American people?
Or as a stain on America, an abomination suspending civil liberties and decency towards American citizens?
Internment camps are definitely the latter, but not the former.
So, again, worse how, you liar?"
How the liar, Mask, excerpted and twisted my words:
"???...so the Japanese internment camps are ONLY "worse"...if NOT compared to Bush using "color codes" and "pronoucements" for the last five years?"
No, I said that internment camps were a stain on America and an abomination. I also said that they are absolutely not an exercise in waging a five-year campign of terror about terror on the American people. No one has ever mentioned "better or worse" than you. You're still avoiding the point and playing dumb, three days running, and it's simply obvious and gross.
"Hmmm...okay, let's go ask the Okuda and Moriyama families if they would trade the three years at Tule Lake Relocation Camp, for "a five-year campign of terror about terror on the American people".
Yes, let's. Their best (or worst, as I see it) answer, as a finite slice of the population (as opposed to the wholesale victimization by lies of the entire American populace) will be "three" as opposed to "five" years of being mistreated. A small point, to be sure, but "three" is still not "five" (and ongoing).
It is also disingenuous to compare the temporary (and historical) plight of Japanese Americans, whose internment is a stain-never-to-be-repeated that most Americans agree on, to the five-years-and-counting lies and misrepresentations by this administration to maximize fear and control, employed at every available opportunity, to demonize not only the actual radical Islamist enemy but every patriotic American, Republican or Democrat, conservative or liberal, who dares to disagree with the tactics of this administration, to the point of labeling them "treasonous" and "traitors".
Perhaps you haven't thought it through, Mask, but if the Democrats and liberals and Iraq-war opponents and Bush-administration detractors actually were the "terrorist-supporting treasonous traitors" they're constantly labeled to be by this administration and its familiars, one of the next "worse" steps you keep whining for me to acknowledge would be imprisonment, and worse. They were patriotic Americans one day, then treated like criminals and incarcerated for "breathing while Jap" the next. "Breathing while dissenting" has recently caused dissenters (at every level) to be cast as enemies of the United States of America - have you noticed? Thank God, so far, that's remained rhetorical libel and slander and nothing more, for the most part. And I am no knee-jerker, I don't see black helicopters or follow conspiracy theories, but I see the color of the sky. And I have been called both a traitor and a terrorist supporter on this site, more than once, by more than one poster, while even Liberty would argue that I am a socially left-leaning, fiscally conservative moderate. I have also overheard real-life discussions between wingers on both sides, and cringed throughout. "What the fuck, I kept thinking, is wrong with you people??"
You want your point answered, the one you posed then tried to put in my mouth. I get it. You lied your ass off, repeatedly creatively edited my words, and played your juvenile game. I see that, as do we all. I called you on it, and now everyone knows you're a lying little punk who comes here to put words in people's mouths, stir shit, derail discussions in favor of arguments for fun, then play dumb and innocent as a new-born babe. We got it. We all got it. You're a liar and a patently dishonest debating partner. We understand.
So, here's the answer to your question.
Were your two sample families' three-year ordeals "worse" than what this administration has done to the entire United States population and the rest of the world for five years (and two to go), not to mention the undoing of its damages for years to come?
NO.
And I'd say so directly to those Japanese families, albeit while filled with shame for their terrible persecution and loss, as well as for what my country has become under this misadministration. Between 9/11 and now, we went from being the proudest country on the planet to one of the most vilified. If I ever meet GWB, here's the question I want to ask: Why?
You, Mask, can remain willingly obtuse about my point, if you like - it reflects poorly on no one but you.
All of the above said (and acknowledged), internment camps are still not an example of a five-year campaign of terror about terror perpetrated on the American people. I rest my case yet again.
"Obviously, though you think internment was an abomination of suspended civil liberties..."
As well as a "stain on America, an abomination suspending civil liberties and decency towards American citizens", which you shamelessly and misleadingly failed to mention just now in an attempt to not-so-subtly portray me as a simpering civil-liberties nut, which most here know I am certainly not...
"getting constant "Orange Alerts" for five years (that people started ignoring in Year Two) has to be "worse" somehow."
Again, and for the last time, liar, no one has ever mentioned "better or worse" but you. You're avoiding the point and have been playing dumb for three days, and it's simply obvious and gross.
Gross, Mask. You are gross. Vile. Repugnant. And shameless.
Posted by New Dawn at 09/11/2006 @ 6:35pm
I think it's kind of pathetic to not give the CIA agents name, but just put a link to the book (Hubris)- it's so commercial and tacky.
I'm not going to buy your book to find out the guys name, and your job should be writing good articles, not pitching your book.
Posted by ALGAE1970 09/11/2006 @ 4:09pm
Your job should be to exercise some intellectual curiousity.
Stop by Barnes and Noble, pick up a copy, flip through it, and find the name.
Or you could actually break your ass twelve bucks and see if the book was worth it before you talk like you know something.
I'm not saying anything... I'm just saying...
Posted by New Dawn at 09/11/2006 @ 6:39pm
Apologies to everyone to submit you to the continuing feud...
but I just thought everyone who posts here should know that Mask is a liar and a patently dishonest debating partner. If we're going to all come here and act like any of our words mean anything, even to each other, we should, at the very least, be honest with one another (even if that means "phooey on you").
Night, everybody. Hope we all, left or right, all took at least a few minutes out of our busy days today to solemnly reflect (that's silence, folks, alone-time, not mind-numbing news coverage time) on September 11, 2001.
America.
Posted by New Dawn at 09/11/2006 @ 6:44pm
NEW DAWN, Just wanted to thank you for your support while my son was in Iraq. Today he arrived in Kuwait, staging for the return trip home. I posted my thoughts earlier in Ari's post. Thanks again.
Posted by FRANKGRITS 09/11/2006 @ 6:44pm
You made me cry, Frank. I am so happy for you and your family.
America, my friend.
Posted by New Dawn at 09/11/2006 @ 6:45pm
....
.
THE ADMINISTRATION IS PROJECTING THE NEXT ATTACK.
THEY ARE TELLING YOU WHAT TO EXPECT OF THEIR NEXT ATTACK AGAINST US.
THERE IS NO BIN LADEN.
CHENEY IS BIN LADEN.
THESE RECENT TAPES BY AL QAEDA ARE CIA INVENTIONS.
ALL OF THE ATTACKS THAT FOLLOW WILL BE BY CHENEY:
Understand...
Those who occupy the halls of power in Washington WANT WWIII - this has been their goal from the outset. This is why they activated the 9/11 False Flag attack, which Cheney himself directed, as witnessed by Norm Minetta.
IT'S ALL ABOUT THE ACQUISITION OF TERRITORY AND RESOURCES, AND THE PROFITS THAT FLOW THEREFROM.
Bush and Cheney and their AIPAC bosses packed the Bush Administration full of self-professed Zionists and dual-citizenship moles specifically to enable all that has followed.
All of this was scripted before they ever took office.
There will be no peace talks, and no peace.
Israel, The Crown, Carlyle and Big Oil don't profit by peace, they profit by war...TOTAL WAR.
This is the biggest resource grab you could ever fathom, but you don't need to simply imagine it, just read the PNAC.
Israel is calling all the shots, and we are paying the price.
The next false flag attack in the US is coming soon, and it will be nuclear, per Cheney's direction.
The plan involves jumbo jets flown into Nuclear containment vessels at power plants in at least three major US cities - in concert with Bird Flu Warnings designed to help enforce the Martial Law requirement to keep would-be patriots in their homes.
Make no mistake, a Fascist Dictatorship has inserted itself at the head of your government, and they are not going to stop until they have destroyed this Democratic Republic. George Bush Sr. is effectively the President, Cheney is the VP and Shrub is the puppet.
It's all coming in the next two months, unless forces within the military physically intervene.
Have a nice day.
.
Posted by plunger at 09/11/2006 @ 7:01pm
Posted by LVLIBERTY1 09/11/2006 @ 3:31pm
Here's the filter, folks, Liberty vs. New Dawn:
Liberty reads that article and supposes that liberals have somehow caused enough of the world to hate the Shrub that someone might one day attempt to do him harm. It would be, remember, at some liberal's behest, because liberals are more powerful than God and can whisper in the ears of the deranged and "flip their switches" to violence.
New Dawn reads the article and gets:
"But has there ever been a president so hated by his enemies that they lusted openly for his death?"
Google "Presidential Assasssinations". Duh.
I have a mouse wheel. Thank God.
Makes zipping past the rest of this stuff a piece of cake.
Liberty, deranged people do deranged things because they are deranged. I'll dare to presuppose that you also believe that Bundy committed murders because of porn and that sex crimes are about sex. While you have your own self-professed areas of expertise, to be sure, one of mine is criminal behavioral psychology.
Your article is silly. "Liberal" does not equal "political assassin". Such fearful fluff.
As a strictly intellectual exercise, perhaps you might entertain this query:
Not "has there" (yes, there has - history speaks), but "why would" a president be so hated by his enemies that they lusted openly for his death?
Now, I'm really leaving...
(Cut-and-run... stage left!)
FU, Mask.
Posted by New Dawn at 09/11/2006 @ 7:11pm
As stated had the will of the majority of the electorate been ratified by the Supreme Court.....9/11 wouldn't have happened. It's that simple.
Posted by FREEDOMPLEASE 09/11/2006
That is truly ignorant. How is it that you can say that? Clinton/Gore did NOTHING during their reign that would suggest Gore doing anything with regards to terror groups. He would very likely have sat there blowing smoke up everyones ass about global warming.
Posted by John B at 09/11/2006 @ 7:15pm
Posted by JOHN B 09/11/2006 @ 7:15pm
Have you even read the report? Clinton/Gore place al Qeada a lot higher on the priority list than hsuB/DC did cutting taxes.
Posted by hsuBfools at 09/11/2006 @ 7:22pm
Ummm...
It bears consideration, though it's a definite "what if" perhaps best left in the past... The following is not my writing, just a relevant viewpoint distributed amongst friends for discussion:
The Clinton-Gore Plan to Stop Al-Qaeda: Would 9-11 have happened?
Would things be any different had Gore been President? Wouldn't 9-11 have still happened?
Perhaps not, according to mainstream media source Time Magazine. In their article, They Had A Plan [requires paid subscription], they explain why: After the bombing of the USS Cole the Clinton Administration had drawn up a comprehensive plan for fighting Al-Qaeda. But they didn't want to execute it with a new President taking office in a few months, so they briefed Bush's team at the highest levels and told them how important it was that they carry it out. And then Bush did nothing.
Here are the relevant quotes:
[Clinton National Security Advisor Sandy] Berger says he told [his successor, Bush's Condoleezza Rice], "I believe that the Bush Administration will spend more time on terrorism generally, and on al-Qaeda specifically, than any other subject."
The terrorism briefing was delivered by Richard Clarke, [] who had served in the first Bush Administration and risen [] to become the White House's point man on terrorism. [He was] chair of the interagency Counter-Terrorism Security Group (CSG)[…]. Since the bombing of the U.S.S. Cole […] he had been working on an aggressive plan to take the fight to al-Qaeda. […] Berger and the principals decided to shelve the plan and let the next Administration take it up. With less than a month left in office, they did not think it appropriate to launch a major initiative against Osama bin Laden. "We would be handing [the Bush Administration] a war when they took office on Jan. 20," says a former senior Clinton aide. "That wasn't going to happen." Now it was up to Rice's team to consider what Clarke had put together. Clarke's proposals called for the "breakup" of al-Qaeda cells and the arrest of their personnel. The financial support for its terrorist activities would be systematically attacked, its assets frozen, its funding from fake charities stopped. Nations where al-Qaeda was causing trouble -- Uzbekistan, the Philippines, Yemen -- would be given aid to fight the terrorists. Most important, Clarke wanted to see a dramatic increase in covert action in Afghanistan to "eliminate the sanctuary" where al-Qaeda had its terrorist training camps and bin Laden was being protected by the radical Islamic Taliban regime. […] In the words of a senior Bush Administration official, the proposals amounted to "everything we've done since 9/11."
[…]
An aggressive campaign to degrade the terrorist network worldwide -- to shut down the conveyor belt of recruits coming out of the Afghan camps, to attack the financial and logistical support on which the hijackers depended -- just might have rendered it incapable of carrying out the Sept. 11 attacks. Perhaps some of those who had to approve the operation might have been killed, or the money trail to Florida disrupted. We will never know, because we never tried. This is the secret history of that failure.
This isn't some low-level employee talking after-the-fact. This is a comprehensive plan at the highest levels of government, with the greatest stress, simply not carried out.
So what was Bush doing instead of cracking down on terrorism? Well, we now know he was busy planning to invade Iraq.
----------
Back to my own writing... while this article has too many [...]'s for my tastes, I will be researching this further so I have a clue before I open my mouth.
Et toi?
Posted by New Dawn at 09/11/2006 @ 7:53pm
George Bush: I have secret information, secret information, secret information. I cant tell anyone, because it would compromise our sources. We gotta go to war,
Donald Rumsfeld: It'll be easy, we'll be done in weeks not months
Condoleeza Rice: I have an oil tanker named after me. Do you want to see a mushroom cloud?
George Bush: We need to stop going after Al Qaida. General Musharraf in Pakistan asked me to stop. An orders an order. Besides, Iraq had to have something to do with it. I have secret information, secret information.
Dick Cheney: We cant catch Osama Bin Laden. Not until the liberals start believing our lies about Iraq. We cant win in Iraq until liberals stop disbelieving our lies, and we cant find Osama Bin Laden until we win in Iraq.
Colin Powell: I'm sorry I have to tell these lies. Look, this is a satellite photograph. We have secret information, that proves there are fleets of mobile Anthrax labs in an elaborate underground rail system. An armada of un-manned planes that could reach the United States. We have secret information - we cant share the information with Congress - because it would compromise our sources. Here, listen to this audiotape. I'm sorry I have to tell you all these lies.
Condoleeza Rice: I have an oil tanker named after me.
George Bush: We havent decided to go to war yet. We just need the authority to go to war, for bargaining. I have secret information, secret information, secret information.
Posted by LiberalPride at 09/11/2006 @ 9:01pm
George Bush: Americans please, gimme your son or daughter, I need to send them off to be KILLED.
Parent: But why do you want to kill my son / daughter?
George Bush: Well, you see I dont have anything against him or her, but you see, my family is sort of in the oil business
Parent: Really? The oil business? God bless you sir. But do you really need to kill my son or daughter?
George Bush: Oh yes. I have secret information.
Condoleeza "Tanker" Rice: Chevron. Whoops! I mean, Chevron. Darn! Why do I keep saying that? Oh well, Chevron, hey everyone, do you want to see a mushroom cloud? Nobody ever dreamed that terrorists would hijack airplanes. Chevron - darn - I said it again!
Rumsfeld: What are you, a Nazi supporter? WE NEED TO SEND YOUR SON OR DAUGHTER TO BE KILLED, BLOWN UP, DE-CAPITATED, MUTILATED, BURNED, SHOT, MAIMED, SO THAT WEALTHY PEOPLE IN THE OIL BUSINESS CAN GET EVEN WEALTHIER!
Posted by LiberalPride at 09/11/2006 @ 9:10pm
NEW DAWN, Just wanted to thank you for your support while my son was in Iraq. Today he arrived in Kuwait, staging for the return trip home. I posted my thoughts earlier in Ari's post. Thanks again.
Posted by FRANKGRITS 09/11/2006 @ 6:44pm
You made me cry, Frank. I am so happy for you and your family.
America, my friend.
You don't know me (even if you've read some of my posts), but I'm glad your son is coming home to you. God bless.
Posted by Thrawn at 09/11/2006 @ 9:16pm
George Bush: I have secret information. Saddam Hussein killed his own people with chemical weapons.
Historian: You mean the Kurds, at Halabja, with VX Nerve Gas?
George Bush: Thats right. The world will never forget.
Historian: Was your dad Vice President 20 years ago when the Reagan Bush administration GAVE Saddam Hussein the chemical weapons, the logistics, and helped him kill the Kurds with the Chemical Weapons?
George Bush: Thats ancient history, ancient history, ancient history. I have secret information, secret information. Who do you trust, me, or the terrorists?
Historian: You mean the Saudi terrorists in Afghanistan and Pakistan?
George Bush: DONT YOU DARE TALK ABOUT WHO REALLY ATTACKED US. If you dont support my war, why, you just want the terrorists to win. I have secret information. I havent made up my mind to go to war, I just need the bargaining. It'll be easy, it'll be a cakewalk, we'll be greeted as liberators, the whole thing will pay for itself.
Posted by LiberalPride at 09/11/2006 @ 9:18pm
Posted by LVLIBERTY1 09/11/2006 @ 3:31pm
Here's the filter, folks, Liberty vs. New Dawn:
Liberty reads that article and supposes that liberals have somehow caused enough of the world to hate the Shrub that someone might one day attempt to do him harm. It would be, remember, at some liberal's behest, because liberals are more powerful than God and can whisper in the ears of the deranged and "flip their switches" to violence.
Posted by NEW DAWN 09/11/2006 @ 7:11pm
I'm glad I put that nutcase on the ignore list. This has got to be a partial explanation of why the Republicans cut mental health funding . . to increase the number of registered Republicans.
Posted by fromredbird at 09/11/2006 @ 9:19pm
Posted by NEW DAWN 09/11/2006 @ 7:53pm
The plain and exceedingly obvious fact is that Clinton handed off the football to Bush and Bush didn't just fumble it, he handed it to the other team and blocked for them.
Posted by fromredbird at 09/11/2006 @ 9:22pm
Dick Cheney's comments to Tim Russert just serve to emphasize the fact that the Bush administration was never concerned with whether their justifications for the invasion of Iraq were based in fact or fiction. The decision for war had been made before GW took over the White House. The tragic events of 9/11/2001 were abused by the Bush administration to justify the plans that were made long before the towers went down.
Posted by rexrobards at 09/11/2006 @ 9:23pm
Posted by LESTER1/2JR 09/11/2006 @ 6:24pm
Exactly.
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Hey New Dawn-
Calm down. Don't let mask's encroaching insanity, take you with it.
Nor worry about his attacks on your logic/nature. He's become increasingly ranty (if that's a word) and argumentative. He never has been on topic, but he's just trying to annoy now.
Let it go.
Here, hit this. (It's real good. I got it from Darla). ;o)
Eric
Posted by Malcontent at 09/11/2006 @ 10:14pm
Posted by REXROBARDS 09/11/2006 @ 9:23pm
Yep. Common knowledge, for all who care to pay attention.
Sadly, you too, are in a minority.
Sigh.
Eric
Posted by Malcontent at 09/11/2006 @ 10:16pm
Frank, happy news! Glad for you and yours.
peace.
Posted by crabwalk at 09/11/2006 @ 11:05pm
An awful lot of dodging and weaving here by the wingers. Not one defense, other than to ridicule and denigrate the senate. The senate that is controlled by the same party that holds the Commander in Chief position. The same senate that has done all that has been asked by the republican president.
Right CPT?
And once again we have the most religious amongst us bearing false witness against his brothers. And offering no defense of his Liar VP. Ain't that one of the Ten?
Cheney lied. Period.
Bush lied. Period.
no ifs ands or buts.
Posted by crabwalk at 09/11/2006 @ 11:16pm
Posted by MALCONTENT 09/11/2006 @ 10:14pm
Hee hee hee
Thanks, pal.
Posted by New Dawn at 09/12/2006 @ 02:17am
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Dear Mr. Olbermann:
I continue to be stunned by your personal bravery, to quite literally "risk it all" to advance the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
http://movies.crooksandliars.com/CountDown-SpecialComment-Bush-911.mov
Please reveal the links between Dresser, Haliburton, Cheney and Asbestos, specificically the asbestos that was in the WTC. Haliburton, under Cheney's leadership, acquired Dresser, and in so doing, Dresser's Asbestos Liability.
ASBESTOS AT GROUND ZERO? WOW, WHAT A COINCIDENCE!
THE WTC WAS THE SINGLE LARGEST ASBESTOS LIABILITY IN THE COUNTRY?
WHAT WOULD THE DEMO COST HAVE BEEN TO DISMANTLE THE TOWERS IN ANY OTHER WAY - GIVEN THAT THEY WERE FULL OF ASBESTOS?
On December 18, 2002, CBS News reported that Halliburton "has agreed to pay about $4 billion in cash and stock to settle hundreds of thousands of asbestos claims against it." Reportedly, Halliburton inherited its asbestos liability from Harbison-Walker, a unit of Halliburton's subsidiary Dresser Industries, and from Halliburton's Kellog Brown & Root subsidiary.
On December 13, 2001, the World Socialist Web Site reported that "During the 2000 election campaign critics noted that in the last several years Cheney and Halliburton had contributed $157,500 to congressional candidates who had co-sponsored legislation to cut off victims' rights to a fair recovery when injured or killed as a result of asbestos exposure."
And on August 11, 2002, The Olympian (from Olympia, WA), carried a Washington Post article noting that:
"Dresser had close ties to a family Cheney knew well: the Bushes. Cheney's boss while he served as Secretary of Defense, President George H.W. Bush, was once being groomed to run Dresser, a company that Bush's father and grandfather had reshaped decades earlier.
When Dresser went public in the 1920s, it turned to W.A. Harriman & Co., whose president was George Herbert Walker, grandfather and namesake to former president Bush. Prescott Bush, the former president's father, helped organize Dresser and select its new president, H. Neil Mallon. Prescott Bush eventually sat on the board and by 1941, still held 1,900 shares of Dresser stock. Mallon was so close to former president Bush that he described him in his autobiography as "surrogate uncle and father- confessor." One of his sons, Neil Mallon Bush, is named after him. After World War II, Mallon employed George H.W. Bush and Dresser executives expected him to take over the company, according to journalist Darwin Payne, who wrote a history of Dresser. Instead, the former president left to prospect for oil.
While Cheney saw sound business reasons for acquiring Dresser, there was a problem in its past -- the use of asbestos in Harbison-Walker division products."
GW included the issue in his State of the Union speech in 2005.
"To make our economy stronger and more competitive, America must reward, not punish, the efforts and dreams of entrepreneurs. Small business is the path of advancement, especially for women and minorities, so we must free small businesses from needless regulation and protect honest job-creators from junk lawsuits. (Applause.) Justice is distorted, and our economy is held back by irresponsible class-actions and frivolous asbestos claims -- and I urge Congress to pass legal reforms this year."
WOW, WHAT A COINCIDENCE!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7750532340306101329&q=silverste in&hl=en
WOW, WHAT A COINCIDENCE!
That story about Halliburton acquiring the asbestos liabilities of Dresser Industries raises an interesting point...
Cheney KNEW that Dresser had the most massive liability issue on planet earth (he had to have known) yet decided to pay good money to bring Dresser's problems under Halliburton's tent. WHY?
This raises the question...who were the largest shareholders of Dresser - in need of a lifeboat to save their own personal bacon? Anyone named Bush? Anyone named Carlyle?
GHW Bush came up with the plan. The deal went like this:
Cheney agrees for Halliburton to take on the Dresser asbestos liability.
It is determined that Bush and Cheney will be (s)elected, and that the PNAC plan will be implemented - using 9/11 as the essential pretext.
Ken Lay plays his role using his Enron smoke and mirrors tactics to create a faux energy crisis in California, causing the public to demand an energy-savvy administration be elected.
With the asbestos liability and other matters hanging in the balance, the election of 2000 simply had to be rigged in order for the plan to go in to effect.
Following the appointment of Bush and Cheney, the secret energy planning meeting established which oil companies would reap the rewards of the pending invasion of Afghanistan, Iraq and Iran.
The timing and the pretext were predetermined, and 9/11 was greenlighted for 9/11/2001. Cheney outsourced the implementation to Mossad, and ran the show from his bunker on D Day under the cover of preplanned drills simulating the exact attack that was proscribed, with NORAD as coconspirator. At least 50 administration officials and countless foreign agents were in on it.
What are the odds that a man in a cave selected 9/11/2001 (the only day when America's air defenses had ever been so compromised), as the day for his attack against America? What are the odds? Only someone with the "branding" sensibilities of Karl Rove would select the date that means the equivalent of "life threatening emergency" in the popular perception.
Recall the on 9/10/2001, Rumsfeld announced that his comptroller, Dov Zakheim, had misplaced $2.3 Trillion (enough to fund a military coup). Zakheim (not coincidentally) also just happened to be the CEO of SPC Corporation, the leading manufacturer of wireless flight control systems designed to control and terminate flights:
http://www.sysplan.com/Radar/FTS
Remember the size of the fireball when the 767 hit the second tower? Remember in the summer of 2001, the scuttlebutt over the Pentagon's Boeing 767 tanker lease deal? Was the 767 that struck the second tower actually a tanker full of fuel?
http://911review.org/brad.com/batcave/Dov_Zakheim_911.html
Zakheim just happened to be of the signatories of the PNAC manifesto that called for a "NEW PEARLE HARBOR" as its essential pretext AND just happened to be the CEO of the one company capable of flying Boeing aircraft by remote control AND just happened to become the Comptroller at Rumsfeld's Pentagon AND just happened to misplace $2.3 trillion in the months prior to 9/11.
Once the entire 9/11 charade was concluded, the Administration generally, and Cheney specifically, had every reason in the world to blame Iraq.
The Afghanistan mission could not provide Halliburton with enough revenue to offset the massive asbestos liability claim. Iraq and Iran are essential wars in order to provide cover for the infusion of the billion of TAX DOLLARS necessary to both profit Halliburton for its actual work AND cover the massive asbestos liability claims.
Now you know why Halliburton was awarded the contracts without the need to bid for them. This was all prearranged.
NOTE: Private enterprise pushed its legal/financial obligations onto tax payers using war as the excuse.
The asbestos liability claims of Dresser Industries were ultimately paid by you and me, and our troops in the field, all to ensure that the investors in Dresser didn't take the multibillion dollar loss.
Just one piece of a very large chessboard.
GOT TREASON?
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/06/01/cheney.halliburton/
Given what we know about VP Cheney's direct financial ties to Haliburton, isn't it clear that he has committed a fraud against the United States for the purpose of illegal financial gain, in accordance with the following statute? Couldn't the same be said of any US official who knowingly made false statements to advance the cause of war, while owning shares of companies that stood to gain substantially from that war? Cheney was acting specifically on behalf of the Contractor, Haliburton, to ensure no-bid contracts were awarded, based on knowingly fraudulent information generated by his own Office Of Special Plans. It might also be construed that any official who had a relationship to the Carlyle Group was also lying on their behalf - for their own financial benefit.
Section 1031. Major fraud against the United States
(a) Whoever knowingly executes, or attempts to execute, any scheme or artifice with the intent - (1) to defraud the United States; or (2) to obtain money or property by means of false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises, in any procurement of property or services as a prime contractor with the United States or as a subcontractor or supplier on a contract in which there is a prime contract with the United States, if the value of the contract, subcontract, or any constituent part thereof, for such property or services is $1,000,000 or more shall, subject to the applicability of subsection (c) of this section, be fined not more than $1,000,000, or imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both.
(1) the gross loss to the Government or the gross gain to a defendant is $500,000 or greater; or
(2) the offense involves a conscious or reckless risk of serious personal injury.
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/casecode/uscodes/18/parts/i/chapters/47/se ctions/section_1031.html
The financial links between those who lied, and those who benefitted as a direct result of the lies (primarily in the oil and military industries) are clear. The evidence that the President's speech knowingly included a lie about the Niger Yellow Cake is proveable in a court of law under oath.
That the Vice President knew for a fact that the claim was based on a forgery in advance of the President's speech is a given. That he instructed others to ensure that the sentence made it into the speech is also a given. What did the Vice President know, and when did he know it?
Everytime the Vice President knowingly lied to the American People to advance the cause of war, he committed a crime against the United States which both directly harmed other US citizens and directly enriched himself.
Indict Dick Cheney for Fraud.
http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?040216fa_fact
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/09/26/politics/main575356.shtml
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/07/20030711-7.html
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/07/20030714-4.html
The outing of Valarie Plame falls into precisely the same category, as it was specifically designed to ensure that the lead up to war continued apace...
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/10/20031001-6.html
Consummate diplomats like Wilson typically do not speak of "lies." So outraged was Wilson, though, that this bogus story had been used to "justify" an unprovoked war, that he made a point to note that the already proven dishonesty begs the question regarding "what else they are lying about."
It was a double whammy. And, as is now well known, the White House moved swiftly-if clumsily (and apparently illegally)-to retaliate.
It was clear from the start that Vice President Dick Cheney and Kemosabe (Amer. Indian for "Scotter") Libby, as well as Karl Rove, were taking the lead in this operation to make an object lesson of Wilson and his wife.
http://www.counterpunch.org/mcgovern10202005.html
But there is abundant evidence that senior White House officials were aware of the CIA's doubts regarding the Niger story long before the State of the Union. Nearly a year earlier, in February 2002, the CIA had dispatched former Ambassador Joseph Wilson to Niger to investigate the claim about uranium purchases. When the CIA debriefed him in March, his findings were emphatic: As Wilson explained in a New York Times op-ed on July 6, "It did not take long to conclude that it was highly doubtful that any such transaction had ever taken place." CIA Director George Tenet claimed on July 11 that Wilson was sent to Niger by junior nonproliferation experts at the CIA acting "on their own initiative" and that senior administration officials were unaware of his mission. But this is not true. Wilson was told by CIA officials that the mission had been specifically requested by the office of the vice president. Indeed, Dick Cheney's chief of staff, Lewis "Scooter" Libby, told Time magazine that Cheney had "asked a question about the implication of the [uranium] report." And, as Wilson tells The New Republic, "When an executive agency is tasked to find something out and it gets an answer, it goes back to the person who requested it." For the White House to suggest that Cheney's office was unaware of the results of Wilson's inquiry strains credulity.
Moreover, there is strong evidence that the CIA clearly conveyed its doubts about the Niger allegation to the White House on more than one occasion prior to the State of the Union. When Bush wanted to include the claim in an October 7, 2002, speech in Cincinnati, Tenet personally intervened, imploring Condoleezza Rice's National Security Council (NSC) deputy, Stephen Hadley, to cut the allegation from the speech, which he did. The idea that no one involved with the State of the Union was aware of this earlier, emphatic intervention is implausible. And when the latter speech was being written, the CIA again raised questions about the Niger assertion. According to The New York Times, when NSC proliferation staffer Robert G. Joseph called his CIA counterpart, Alan Foley, to ask about including the allegation in the State of the Union, Foley told Joseph the CIA was not confident about the information.
http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=20030728&s=editorial072803
Indict Vice President Cheney. Put him under oath.
BEFORE 9/11...
VALERIE PLAME LED THE "JOINT TASK FORCE ON IRAQ"
IN THE SPRING OF 2001 - SHE RECEIVED WORD TO "RAMP IT UP!"
SOMETHING WAS COMING - A PRETEXT - THAT WOULD LEAD TO AN INVASION OF IRAQ
THIS WAS KNOWN TO PLAME IN THE SPRING OF 2001
WHEN 9/11 HAPPENED - SHE KNEW THAT THE GENERALS HAD ADVANCED KNOWLEDGE OF IT - AS THIS WAS INSTANTLY REVEALED TO BE THE PRETEXT FOR THE INVASION OF THE MIDDLE EAST.
VALARIE PLAME KNOWS FOR A FACT THAT 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB.
DICK CHENEY DID IT.
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060918/corn
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Posted by plunger at 09/12/2006 @ 06:24am
Chip Thornton -
Did you catch Bush's speech last night?
I think that would fall under using 9/11 to "push an agenda".
Posted by Hman23 at 09/12/2006 @ 10:34am
Olbermann's speech was better:
This hole in the ground
Half a lifetime ago, I worked in this now-empty space. And for 40 days after the attacks, I worked here again, trying to make sense of what happened, and was yet to happen, as a reporter.
All the time, I knew that the very air I breathed contained the remains of thousands of people, including four of my friends, two in the planes and -- as I discovered from those "missing posters" seared still into my soul -- two more in the Towers.
And I knew too, that this was the pyre for hundreds of New York policemen and firemen, of whom my family can claim half a dozen or more, as our ancestors.
I belabor this to emphasize that, for me this was, and is, and always shall be, personal.
And anyone who claims that I and others like me are "soft,"or have "forgotten" the lessons of what happened here is at best a grasping, opportunistic, dilettante and at worst, an idiot whether he is a commentator, or a Vice President, or a President.
However, of all the things those of us who were here five years ago could have forecast -- of all the nightmares that unfolded before our eyes, and the others that unfolded only in our minds -- none of us could have predicted this.
Five years later this space is still empty.
Five years later there is no memorial to the dead.
Five years later there is no building rising to show with proud defiance that we would not have our America wrung from us, by cowards and criminals.
Five years later this country's wound is still open.
Five years later this country's mass grave is still unmarked.
Five years later this is still just a background for a photo-op.
It is beyond shameful.
At the dedication of the Gettysburg Memorial -- barely four months after the last soldier staggered from another Pennsylvania field -- Mr. Lincoln said, "we cannot dedicate, we cannot consecrate, we cannot hallow this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract."
Lincoln used those words to immortalize their sacrifice.
Today our leaders could use those same words to rationalize their reprehensible inaction. "We cannot dedicate, we can not consecrate, we can not hallow this ground." So we won't.
Instead they bicker and buck pass. They thwart private efforts, and jostle to claim credit for initiatives that go nowhere. They spend the money on irrelevant wars, and elaborate self-congratulations, and buying off columnists to write how good a job they're doing instead of doing any job at all.
Five years later, Mr. Bush, we are still fighting the terrorists on these streets. And look carefully, sir, on these 16 empty acres. The terrorists are clearly, still winning.
And, in a crime against every victim here and every patriotic sentiment you mouthed but did not enact, you have done nothing about it.
And there is something worse still than this vast gaping hole in this city, and in the fabric of our nation. There is its symbolism of the promise unfulfilled, the urgent oath, reduced to lazy execution.
The only positive on 9/11 and the days and weeks that so slowly and painfully followed it was the unanimous humanity, here, and throughout the country. The government, the President in particular, was given every possible measure of support.
Those who did not belong to his party -- tabled that.
Those who doubted the mechanics of his election -- ignored that.
Those who wondered of his qualifications -- forgot that.
History teaches us that nearly unanimous support of a government cannot be taken away from that government by its critics. It can only be squandered by those who use it not to heal a nation's wounds, but to take political advantage.
Terrorists did not come and steal our newly-regained sense of being American first, and political, fiftieth. Nor did the Democrats. Nor did the media. Nor did the people.
The President -- and those around him -- did that.
They promised bi-partisanship, and then showed that to them, "bi-partisanship" meant that their party would rule and the rest would have to follow, or be branded, with ever-escalating hysteria, as morally or intellectually confused, as appeasers, as those who, in the Vice President's words yesterday, "validate the strategy of the terrorists."
They promised protection, and then showed that to them "protection" meant going to war against a despot whose hand they had once shaken, a despot who we now learn from our own Senate Intelligence Committee, hated al-Qaida as much as we did.
The polite phrase for how so many of us were duped into supporting a war, on the false premise that it had 'something to do' with 9/11 is "lying by implication."
The impolite phrase is "impeachable offense."
Not once in now five years has this President ever offered to assume responsibility for the failures that led to this empty space, and to this, the current, curdled, version of our beloved country.
Still, there is a last snapping flame from a final candle of respect and fairness: even his most virulent critics have never suggested he alone bears the full brunt of the blame for 9/11.
Half the time, in fact, this President has been so gently treated, that he has seemed not even to be the man most responsible for anything in his own administration.
Yet what is happening this very night?
A mini-series, created, influenced -- possibly financed by -- the most radical and cold of domestic political Machiavellis, continues to be televised into our homes.
The documented truths of the last fifteen years are replaced by bald-faced lies; the talking points of the current regime parroted; the whole sorry story blurred, by spin, to make the party out of office seem vacillating and impotent, and the party in office, seem like the only option.
How dare you, Mr. President, after taking cynical advantage of the unanimity and love, and transmuting it into fraudulent war and needless death, after monstrously transforming it into fear and suspicion and turning that fear into the campaign slogan of three elections? How dare you -- or those around you -- ever "spin" 9/11?
Just as the terrorists have succeeded -- are still succeeding -- as long as there is no memorial and no construction here at Ground Zero.
So, too, have they succeeded, and are still succeeding as long as this government uses 9/11 as a wedge to pit Americans against Americans.
This is an odd point to cite a television program, especially one from March of 1960. But as Disney's continuing sell-out of the truth (and this country) suggests, even television programs can be powerful things.
And long ago, a series called "The Twilight Zone" broadcast a riveting episode entitled "The Monsters Are Due On Maple Street."
In brief: a meteor sparks rumors of an invasion by extra-terrestrials disguised as humans. The electricity goes out. A neighbor pleads for calm. Suddenly his car -- and only his car -- starts. Someone suggests he must be the alien. Then another man's lights go on. As charges and suspicion and panic overtake the street, guns are inevitably produced. An "alien" is shot -- but he turns out to be just another neighbor, returning from going for help. The camera pulls back to a near-by hill, where two extra-terrestrials are seen manipulating a small device that can jam electricity. The veteran tells his novice that there's no need to actually attack, that you just turn off a few of the human machines and then, "they pick the most dangerous enemy they can find, and it's themselves."
And then, in perhaps his finest piece of writing, Rod Serling sums it up with words of remarkable prescience, given where we find ourselves tonight: "The tools of conquest do not necessarily come with bombs and explosions and fallout. There are weapons that are simply thoughts, attitudes, prejudices, to be found only in the minds of men.
"For the record, prejudices can kill and suspicion can destroy, and a thoughtless, frightened search for a scapegoat has a fallout all its own -- for the children, and the children yet unborn."
When those who dissent are told time and time again -- as we will be, if not tonight by the President, then tomorrow by his portable public chorus -- that he is preserving our freedom, but that if we use any of it, we are somehow un-American...When we are scolded, that if we merely question, we have "forgotten the lessons of 9/11"... look into this empty space behind me and the bi-partisanship upon which this administration also did not build, and tell me:
Who has left this hole in the ground?
We have not forgotten, Mr. President.
You have.
May this country forgive you.
Posted by New Dawn at 09/12/2006 @ 12:36pm
Chip Thornton - Did you catch Bush's speech last night? I think that would fall under using 9/11 to "push an agenda". Posted by HMAN23 09/12/2006 @ 10:34am
Right on, HMAN.
CHIP THORNTON's comment to lead off this thread is perhaps the most heinous piece of puppyshit I have read in recent memory.
Just who was that bitch who spent all of 9/11/2006 on sight of the attacks, shamelessly followed by a national address? And thus continued to cravenly, crassly pimp off the most ferocious terror act in history and the massive death it unleashed in support of his political career and project?
Should also notice, however, the strange relationship that conservaLosers have to 9/11: It is all Clinton's fault but they cannot take ownership of it enough when it serves their electoral purposes. The VanityWarrior repeats "9/11" like a mantra, invokes it like a talisman 'cuz it's all his ... but, beyond de-emphasizing terror as a priority before 9/11, the stupid bitch fought enpanelment of the 9/11 Commission and refused to testify more than an hour and then with hand-holding from Cheney ... typical, cowardly rightwing BS ...
Posted by Glenn Lemon at 09/12/2006 @ 12:41pm
Just for today.......... Let me say that Chip and all the other Bush apologists can kiss my ass!
Yea, lets' just give them a pass on the anniversary of 911! Yea, Like all the right wing clowns need another day to bask in the lack of accountability of this administration - just one more day - give me a break. Take all your hollow sentamentality and shove it up your partisan asses! So, I hope that at least for that Monday you were able to sleep because you didn't have to face the the truth that your heroe is nothing more than a naked king.
Posted by NO-NONSENSE at 09/12/2006 @ 3:42pm
Not only is Cheney a pathological liar, he's schizophrenic, a psychosis characterized by loss of contact with one's environment.
This is Cheney's version of what completing the "mission" in Iraq would look like. "Victory in Iraq will be a situation in which there is a viable government representative of the people of Iraq." Cheney is obviously out of contact with the environment he LIVES in which does not have a viable government representative of the people of America.
And can't you imagine him saying after New York city had been hit by a nuclear bomb that New York had just undergone the first step toward urban renewal and it didn't cost them a thing.
So we've got George-the-brain-dead as president and Dick-the-schitzo as vice. But, hey, they're the most powerful men in the world so not to worry.
Posted by felicity at 09/12/2006 @ 3:52pm
Oh, by the way...
Doesn't Mr Corn have a new book out?
Posted by Mask at 09/12/2006 @ 4:00pm
Talk about not respecting the victims of 9/11, Bush and Cheney have been using it for political gain for 5 years now. It's disgraceful. Can THEY give it a rest for just one day? No. Because all they have to sell is FEAR. Webster's Online Dictionary describes terrorism this way "The intent of terrorism is to "induce fear" in an audience (not its victims) in order to cause the audience (or its government) to alter its behavior."
Posted by pugs2001 at 09/12/2006 @ 4:56pm
Posted by MASK 09/12/2006 @ 4:00pm
Ok. It's official now. You are just a dickhead.
Eric
Posted by Malcontent at 09/12/2006 @ 10:46pm
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MjFiYjlhOGVkMTAxMGEyNjVjOWEwNzQ1MmM yOGY5NmM=
Posted by crabwalk at 09/13/2006 @ 09:25am
Posted by MALCONTENT 09/12/2006 @ 10:46pm
Dickhead, butthead. Head up ass. Mask is destined for the ignore bin with Rese and Plunger.
Posted by crabwalk at 09/13/2006 @ 09:27am
Posted by MALCONTENT 09/12/2006 @ 10:46pm
Eric...what about that post do you have a problem with? (hehe)
Posted by Mask at 09/13/2006 @ 10:24am
Just when you thought RESE and friends couldn't get any nuttier....they do---
"...literally shows proof a military plane or other model plane hit the tower directly on.
What you are witnessing is a crime, done to frame a whole people and the Arabs. Don't be surprised it makes you emotion filled. Notice the entire footage, is magically the WTC plummets while hugely toxic fog......or "nuclear fallout" smoke covers the entire city. There was either a nuclear arm tied to the plane when it impacted the WTC and it quickly grew, or the nuclear explosions came from the inside.
http://waynemadsenreport.com http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hundreds.html
Posted by RESE 09/12/2006 @ 7:52pm"
A model plane?....armed with a nuclear weapon?....hit the World Trade Center?......okaaaaaaaaaay
Posted by Mask at 09/13/2006 @ 10:30am
(Hope Liberty is paying attention here)
President Bush could learn a lot from Sun Tzu By John Lang Originally published September 13, 2006
Dear Mr. President,
It's too bad The Art of War wasn't on your summer reading list. If you'd read it, maybe we wouldn't be mired in Iraq. According to the author, Sun Tzu, esteemed for thousands of years as the Sage of Warfare, you're doing it all wrong.
Exactly what military principles you've broken - and how many - I learned by chance. On the first day of classes at Washington College, the title on a shelf of paperbacks caught my eye. I opened at random and found this on Page 10: "In war, better take a state intact than destroy it."
Then came a critique of your plan to recall reservists for more tours: "The skillful warrior never conscripts troops a second time." And, "Supplying an army at a distance drains the public coffers. ... Six-tenths are spent on broken chariots, worn-out horses." That last is archaically put, but don't we have thousands of war-wrecked Humvees and tanks now - while short of funds to fix them?
On Page 13, I found: "Treat prisoners of war kindly, and care for them." How does that square with Guantanamo?
Page after page, Sun Tzu has something to say to you, even though the principles were stated something like 2,500 years ago.
But your reading list this summer, so the White House said, included a three-volume history of the Louisiana Purchase. In a summer past, as casualties mounted, we were told you read a comprehensive history of salt.
That's hardly as germane as The Art of War, which states, "No nation has ever benefited from a protracted war."
Of course, reading lists of politicians are always suspect. You feed doubts when you tell us that this summer you also read "three Shakespeares." Your aides have said you don't read their briefing papers but direct them to read them to you.
Then why not get those neocons who advised you into this war to give Master Sun a glance? Vice President Dick Cheney owns the book; according to news reports, Chinese officials gave Mr. Cheney an out-of-print copy valued at $3,600, though it's not clear whether he's read it.
Perhaps your advisers can slip Sun Tzu's maxims into the daily digest. After, say, the latest blurb on slaughter between Sunni and Shiite factions, an aide could read:
"Without knowing the plans of the feudal lords, you cannot form alliances."
Or, before another retired general or formerly supportive Republican congressman goes looking for Iraq's back door, your reader can find: "When an army is confused and perplexed, the feudal princes will cause trouble. This creates chaos in the ranks and gives away victory."
Sir, you can be certain, if you don't know Sun Tzu, your enemies do. It's the revolutionary's primer. Mao Tse-tung carried a copy on his Long March. It was Fidel Castro's campfire reading when he was hiding out in the Sierra Maestre.
Can the teachings have escaped the notice of Osama bin Laden? Not likely. Consider The Art of War on evasion: "He changes his ways and alters his plans to keep the enemy in ignorance." Also, "The highest skill in forming dispositions is to be without form; formlessness is proof against the prying of the subtlest spy and the machinations of the wisest brain."
Concluding, "The place I intend to attack must not be known; if it is unknown, the enemy will have to reinforce many places ... but I shall attack few." And, "Throw your men where there is no escape, and they will die rather than flee."
Sounds exactly like al-Qaida. What would it hurt to read the guerrillas' guidebook? Don't you owe it to us, and yourself? After all, as you've said to us, "I am a wartime president."
And the Master says, "He who knows self, but not the enemy, will suffer one defeat for every victory."
Posted by New Dawn at 09/13/2006 @ 11:38am
That is great ND, thanks for passing that along.
Posted by crabwalk at 09/13/2006 @ 12:06pm
IF YOU DON'T WANT THE WHOLE TRUTH, DON'T READ THIS
CAN YOU HANDLE THE TRUTH?
ARE YOU REALLY READY FOR IT?
THE PURPORTED "GLOBAL WAR ON TERROR" EXPLAINED.
COPY THIS – SAVE IT.
SHARE IT WITH AMERICAN PATRIOTS
It is not a secret who did this, PNAC spells it out and shows it off.
911 is undeniably tied to the war in Iraq. It is obvious to any thinking person how the 911 tragedy was used to justify by deception the war in Iraq. We know that the WMDs claims were lies not just mistaken intelligence. Now the question arises, who lied? Who set up and makes up the OFFICE OF SPECIAL PLANS?
All roads lead to Israel.
Here is a map of where Iraq's oil is going. (SCROLL DOWN TO MAP)
http://www.rys2sense.com/anti-neocons/viewtopic.php?t=1388&start=0&postd ays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
Here's the best guest so far of what happened on 9/11/2001...
Osama bin Laden is a high level agent operated by the Israeli Mossad in cooperation with the CIA. OBL and his inner circle recruited the hijackers for 911, with the naive recruitees having little idea of what they were really getting into or about whom was pulling their strings (this was the false flag component of the operation).
Now the government is engaged in a massive propaganda campaign to suppress any reasonable questions about 911. If the cover-up starts to fall apart, it is likely that more and worse terrorist incidents will be engineered, martial law will be declared, and any skeptics and dissidents will be imprisoned or murdered.
Now, if none of this true, why is the government doing its level best to make it appear to be true by its bungling and provocative behavior? Doesn't this entire operation -- both 911 and post-911 -- have a keystone cops quality about it that is highly redolent of Iran-Contra?
Anyone who thinks Israel is incapable of this kind of behavior should thoroughly research the Lavon Affair. Start by doing a simple Google search on "lavon affair".
http://www.rense.com/general21/was911mossad.htm
Corporations have obviously profiteered from the wars, that has been made quite clear. But did they write, implement, and use deception, to start this war or was that the Zionists? Who got caught spying on the US Halliburton or Israel? Israel that is who. The profiteering is a by product of the war as in any war. They are all in bed together because of overlapping interests between the military related corporations and the Zionists.
The Neocons Made it happen with the assistance of a foreign government, the same government where PNAC was first written, and who we have caught spies from who have been stealing secrets from us about Iran, and who made up the shadow government of the OSP which is who cherry picked and fabricated the lies told about Iraq in order to start the war. The Wars in the middle east were for separate reasons, Afghanistan was about a few pipelines as noted but more so about controlling large quantities of un-tapped uranium (a reason for both the Russian and US invasions) and secondly for controlling opium as the CIA funds it's off the books black operation such as the now known massive secret prison systems, (torture camps) and coupled with other color coded revolutions to circle China and Russia with US bases, (add to that the lesser known negotiations with Japan to allow nuclear subs into the Japanese Sea [pointed at China] in exchange for moving troops from Okinawa to Guam). The main goal however which PNAC states is to keep the eye on the pie, Iran (which Afghanistan and Iraq both boarder.) The invasion of Iraq was to solve Israel's oil crisis and stop the threat of a secular Middle East which would become a true economic player and was a threat to the aggressive state of Israel.
Now you ready to get pulled out of the rabbit hole some more? I will come back to just who forged these documents. (Ahmad Chalabi , Francis Brookes, Dewey Clarridge, and Michael Ledeen. ) First let's see how they got into the presidents hands. Bush said, these known false claims, as if they were true in his State of the Union Address. It has now been called is infamous 16 words, which he could be impeached for if we had an actual opposition party.
The disinformation was stove piped straight to Cheney/Bush by a little known shadow government called the OSP the Office of Special Plans, headed under Cheney and Rumsfeld and a pack of Zionists underling, yes the same ones who co-authored PNAC and the Clean Break for Israel.
Andreas von Bulow the former German Defense Minister said on April 21, 2006 on the Alex Jones show that this false flag operation had to be carried out by a very small group of people Alex asked him 100? 40? he said less than that. Right after the second break (which on the QuickTime bar would be right in line with Andreas vo Bulow's right ear) Alex talks about the picture getting more clear as the truth about the wars come out. He then talks about the 25 Neocons who wrote PNAC were in high positions in the DOD and white house and Andreas von Bulow says "sure and part of them wrote the government program for Benjamin Netanyahu... "(Former Prime Minister of Israel). Alex goes on to say who could have done this? Bulow says it was not the CIA and Alex jumps in saying your talking about black ops. Than Alex says we know only a MAJOR STATE could have carried this out? Andreas says it must have been done from high up and it had to be done by a few people. Alex says would you say 100-200, AVB says less, Alex askes 50 people and AVB says less. Alex can not say it was the zionists on the air.
http://www.rys2sense.com/anti-neocons/viewtopic.php?t=1388&start=0&postd ays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
100% official proof: Body Doubles at work on 911
Atta was a Mossad agent that's why he was seen on the Abramoff casino ships and why the Mossad lived next door to his house, why they found his stolen pass port at ground Zero (the mossad planted it for the FBI) and why Atta could not speak German to his flight instructor.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/August2006/180806Doubles.htm
THE OFFICE OF SPECIAL PLANS EXPOSED:
http://www.rys2sense.com/anti-neocons/viewtopic.php?t=550
This case with Rove, Miller, Libby, and so on, is linked to another scandal in the DOD. The Larry Franklin/AIPAC scandal. Where Israel was using DOD officials to hand over classified information to their Israeli lobby group who then passed it to the Israeli government. Now just how does it all fit together?
KEEP READING…
http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/911-graham-admits.htm
PBS Interview:
Senator: At Least One Foreign Country Assisted the 9/11 Terrorists
GWEN IFILL: Are you suggesting that you are convinced that there was a state sponsor behind 9/11?
SEN. BOB GRAHAM: I think there is very compelling evidence that at least some of the terrorists were assisted not just in financing -- although that was part of it -- by a sovereign foreign government and that we have been derelict in our duty to track that down, make the further case, or find the evidence that would indicate that that is not true and we can look for other reasons why the terrorists were able to function so effectively in the United States.
GWEN IFILL: Do you think that will ever become public, which countries you're talking about?
SEN. BOB GRAHAM: It will become public at some point when it's turned over to the archives, but that's 20 or 30 years from now. And, we need to have this information now because it's relevant to the threat that the people of the United States are facing today.
So which nation(s) was it? We mere mortals don't know, but we can make an educated guess about which countries it wasn't. It obviously wasn't any nation that the US government hates and would love to demonize. If it had been Iraq, for example, the report would not have been classified; it would've been personally faxed by Donald Rumsfeld to every reporter in the nation. No, the one or more facilitators of 9/11 were obviously allies, friendly countries, nations that the US doesn't want to alienate....
Posted by plunger at 09/13/2006 @ 12:11pm
I S R A E L
D I D
I T
BEFORE 9/11...
THE 200 ISRAELIS
JANUARY – 2001
Suspicious Activities Involving Israeli Art Students at DEA Facilities
Drug Enforcement Administration Office of Security June, 2001
Backgound:
In January, 2001, the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), Office of Security Programs (IS), began to receive reports of Israeli art students attempting to penetrate several DEA Field Offices in the continental United States. Additionally, there have been reports of Israeli art students visiting the homes of numerous DEA employees. These incidents have occurred since at least the beginning of 2000.
THEY TURNED OUT TO BE MOSSAD AGENTS.
200 MOSSAD AGENTS.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/deareportisraelispying.html
SPRING – 2001
THE US GOVERNMENT IS "RAMPING UP" A PLAN TO INVADE THE MIDDLE EAST
VALERIE PLAME LED THE "JOINT TASK FORCE ON IRAQ"
IN THE SPRING OF 2001 - SHE RECEIVED WORD TO "RAMP IT UP!"
SOMETHING WAS COMING - A PRETEXT - THAT WOULD LEAD TO AN INVASION OF IRAQ
THIS WAS KNOWN TO PLAME IN THE SPRING OF 2001
WHEN 9/11 HAPPENED - SHE KNEW THAT THE GENERALS HAD ADVANCED KNOWLEDGE OF IT - AS THIS WAS INSTANTLY REVEALED TO BE THE PRETEXT FOR THE INVASION OF THE MIDDLE EAST.
VALARIE PLAME KNOWS FOR A FACT THAT 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB.
DICK CHENEY ENABLED IT.
MOSSAD IMPLEMENTED IT.
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060918/corn
MAY 2001
DOV ZAKHEIM INSTALLED AS PENTAGON COMPTROLLER
Dov Zakheim and the World Trade Center
Perhaps not coincidentally Dov served at the Pentagon, it was an SPS (his firm's) subsidiary, Tridata Corporation, that oversaw the investigation of the first terrorist attack on the World Trade Center in 1993. This would have given them intimate knowledge of the security systems and structural blueprints of the World Trade Center. From the '90s through 2001, WTC Security was handled by Securacom, a Kuwait-American firm, on whose board Marvin Bush, the president's brother, sat. After 9/11, Securacom was let go, changed its name to Stratosec, and was delisted from the Stock Exchange in 2002.
JUNE - 2001
ADVANCE WARNINGS
The days and hours leading up to 9-11 were marked by a series of chilling warnings about impending terrorist plots involving hijacked commercial airplanes. It's worth mentioning at this point that months before 9-11, the US had already informed some of its allies of plans to go to war in Afghanistan. On June 26, 2001, News Insight/India Reacts, an Indian public affairs magazine, wrote:
"India and Iran will "facilitate" US and Russian plans for "limited military action" against the Taliban if the contemplated tough new economic sanctions don't bend Afghanistan's fundamentalist regime. Indian officials say that India and Iran will only play the role of "facilitator" while the US and Russia will combat the Taliban from the front with the help of two Central Asian countries, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, to push Taliban lines back to the 1998 position 50 km away from Mazar-e-Sharief city in northern Afghanistan. Military action will be the last option though it now seems scarcely avoidable with the UN banned from Taliban-controlled areas" 6
JULY – 2001
June 14, 2002 - Common Dreams website publishes an account from a former member of the 1/118th Infantry Battalion of the South Carolina National Guard: "My unit reported for drill in July 2001 and we were suddenly and unexpectedly informed that all activities planned for the next two months would be suspended in order to prepare for a mobilization exercise to be held on Sept. 14, 2001. We worked diligently for two weekends and even came in on an unscheduled day in August to prepare for the exercise. By the end of August all we needed was a phone call, which we were to expect, and we could hop into a fully prepared convoy with our bags and equipment packed." [Source: Common Dreams, http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0614-02.htm
AUGUST - 2001
MOSSAD WARNS OF "200 TERRORISTS" INSIDE UNITED STATES
The story of US military involvement in Afghanistan was reported months before 9-11 in Indian and British 7 publications but it was never reported in the US media. With the military plans already in motion since at least June of 2001, all that was needed was for an "incident" to take place to justify the US going to "war against Terrorism" in Afghanistan.
Here are just a few of the advance warnings which were brought to light in the aftermath of 9-11:
The London Daily Telegraph reported on September 16, 2001:
"The Telegraph has learned that two senior experts with Mossad, the Israeli military intelligence service, were sent to Washington in August to alert the FBI and CIA to the existence of a cell of as many as 200 terrorists said to be preparing a big operation. They had no specific information about what was being planned but linked the plot to Osama Bin Laden and told American officials that there were strong grounds for suspecting Iraqi involvement."
Do you smell a "false flag" operation in the works? How is possible that the Mossad knew of the existence of these 200 terrorists but could not name or locate a single one? And how convenient for Israel that Saddam Hussein should be in cahoots with Osama Bin Laden, despite the fact that Bin Laden and Hussein hate each other!
SEPTEMBER 1 – 2001
Sept. 1-10 2001 - In an exercise, called Operation "Swift Sword" and planned for four years, 23,000 British troops are steaming toward Oman. Although the 9-11 attacks caused a hiccup in the deployment, the massive operation was implemented as planned. At the same time two U.S. carrier battle groups arrive on station in the Gulf of Arabia just off the Pakistani coast. Also at the same time, some 17,000 U.S. troops join more than 23,000 NATO troops in Egypt for Operation "Bright Star." All of these forces are in place before the first plane hits the WTC. [Sources: The Guardian; CNN; Fox; The Observer; International Law Professor Francis Boyle, the University of Illinois.]
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/02_11_02_lucy.html
SEPTEMBER 7 – 2001
http://killtown.911review.org/oddities/2001.html#September7,2001-Jeb_Bus h
"WHO KNEW IN ADVANCE? " JEB BUSH!
Jeb Bush signed Florida TWO YEAR emergency order 4 days BEFORE ATTACK
Immediately after the WTC's second tower fell, Jeb Bush declares a state of emergency in Florida with no termination date even though no acts of terrorism occur in his state.
Bush, through Executive Order 01-261, had activated units of the Florida National Guard on Sept. 7, four days before the kamikaze assault on the Trade Center.
INSIDER TRADING IN ADVANCE OF 9/11
There was unusually heavy trading in airline and insurance stocks several days before Sept.11, which essentially bet on a drop in the worth of the stocks.
It was reported by the Interdisciplinary Center, a counter-terrorism think tank involving former Israeli intelligence officers, that insiders made nearly $16 million profit by short selling shares in American and United Airlines, the two airlines that suffered hijacking, and the investment firm of Morgan Stanley, which occupied 22 floors of the WTC.
Apparently none of the suspicious transactions could be traced to bin Laden because this news item quietly dropped from sight, leaving many people wondering if it tracked back to American firms or intelligence agencies.
Most of these transactions were handled primarily by Deutsche Bank-A.B.Brown, a firm which until 1998 was chaired by A. B."Buzzy" Krongard, who later became executive director of the CIA.
More serious was an article in the Sept. 28, 2001 edition of the Washington Post stating that officials with the instant messaging firm of Odigo in New York confirmed that two employees in Israel received text messages warning of an attack on the WTC two hours before the planes crashed into the buildings!
SUBSEQUENTLY COVERED UP BY MOSSAD AGENT MICHAEL CHERTOFF:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/21/AR200512 2102327_5.html
The White House and the FBI Killed Operation Greenquest, Michael Chertoff's Faux Search To Track The Funding For 9/11
The strongest pushback came from the Justice Department, where the mention of DHS inspired jokes about duct tape and chartreuse threat levels. Justice officials believed DHS had "too much focus on marketing and not enough on substantive delivery," in the words of one aide to then-Attorney General John D. Ashcroft. "They were consumed with their public perception," said Mark Corallo, an Ashcroft spokesman.
Indeed, one of the new department's biggest intramural furors was a branding fight with the FBI. It began when the director of a new DHS agency known as Immigration and Customs Enforcement -- or ICE -- decided to keep the catchy acronym but change the name to Investigation and Criminal Enforcement. The FBI, it turned out, had some proprietary feelings about the word "investigation."
At the FBI's insistence, the White House had already forced ICE to give up its Operation Greenquest program investigating terrorism financing -- and forced Ridge to sign a memo pledging to keep his department away from similar investigations. But Ridge thought this spat was just silly; nobody was going to mistake ICE for the FBI.
Nevertheless, the White House told Ridge to back off.
http://www.madcowprod.com/01122004.html
Michael Chertoff, appointed by President Bush to head the Homeland Security Department, may have shielded from criminal prosecution a former client suspected by law enforcement of having funneled millions of dollars directly to Osama Bin Laden while in charge of the U.S. Government's 9.11 investigation.
Posted by plunger at 09/13/2006 @ 12:11pm
SEPTEMBER 10 – 2001
Missing Trillions Rumsfeld Buries Admission of Missing 2+ Trillion Dollars in 9/10/01 Press Conference
On September 10, 2001, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld held a press conference to disclose that over $2,000,000,000,000 in Pentagon funds could not be accounted for. Rumsfeld stated: "According to some estimates we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions."
The Comptroller of the Pentagon at the time of the attack was Dov Zakheim, who was appointed in May of 2001. Before becoming the Pentagon's money-manager, he was an executive at System Planning Corporation, a defense contractor specializing in electronic warfare technologies including remote-controlled aircraft systems. Zakheim is a member of the Project for a New American Century and participated in the creation of its 2000 position paper Rebuilding America's Defenses which called for "a New Pearl Harbor."
http://911research.wtc7.net/sept11/trillions.html
Zakheim was/is a dual Israeli/American citizen and an ordained rabbi and had been tracking the halls of US government for 25 years, casting defense policy and influence on Presidents Reagan, Clinton, Bush Sr. and Bush Jr. He is, as I described him earlier, the bionic Zionist. In fact, Judicial Inc points out that most of Israel's armaments were gotten thanks to him. Squads of US F-16 and F-15 were classified military surplus and sold to Israel at a fraction of their value.
SEPTEMBER 11 - 2001
THE DANCING ISRAELIS
On September 11, five Israeli army veterans were arrested by the FBI after several witnesses saw them "dancing", "high-fiving", and "celebrating" as they took pictures of the World Trade Center disaster from across the river in New Jersey.
http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:K2GhcamuDqoJ:www.serendipity.li/wot/ independent_investigation_of_911.doc+giuliani+dominick+suter&hl=en&gl=us &ct=clnk&cd=6
When the photos were developed, they revealed that the dancing Israelis were smiling in the foreground of the New York massacre. 3 According to ABC's 20/20 attempted whitewash of the incident, in addition to their outrageous and highly suspicious behavior, the five also had in their possession the following items; box-cutters, European passports, and $4,700 cash hidden in a sock. 4 Why were these Israeli agents so happy about the horrible massacre that was unfolding right before their very eyes? What evil spirit could possess people who are supposed to be America's "allies", and who receive billions of dollars in financial and military aid from US taxpayers each year, to publicly rejoice as innocent people (including many American Jews) were burning to death and jumping out of 110 story buildings? Could it be that these happy Israeli army veterans were in some way linked to this monstrous attack? That's what officials close to the investigation initially told The Bergen Record newspaper of New Jersey.
http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/01/12/WTC_Mysteries3.html
FBI evidence of Mossad involvement in September 11 attacks on the U.S.
The FBI believes that most of the arrested Israelis belong to an Israeli intelligence unit operating outside New Jersey, near where the Anthrax letters were mailed. They all worked for a U.S.-based company known as Urban Moving Systems.
An editorial on whatreallyhappened.com states that an FBI SWAT team raided the New Jersey warehouse of the Urban Moving Systems and confiscated a number of computer hard drives and files. It further adds that the Israeli owner of the company, Dominick Suter, closed his business days after the Sept. attacks and returned to Israel. He was in such a hurry that some of Urban Moving System's customers were left with their furniture stranded in storage facilities.
Behind closed doors, Israeli authorities were doing all what they can to get the men released and the FBI probe closed. Israeli lawmakers contacted their "friends" in the U.S. Congress, and the Mayor of Jerusalem, Ehud Ohmert personally called the New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani and asked him to intervene.
An article on Power of Prophecy reported that a war brewed inside the FBI between the agents conducting the probe and their superiors, who warned that involving the Israelis in the attacks could be an "explosive political volcano." But the lower-level agents didn't buy it. They believed that the arrested Israeli Jews might just hold the key to the whole 9/11 debacle. "These Israeli guys knew what was coming down," one FBI veteran was quoted as saying. "We would be fools if we let them just fade away into the sunset and pretend they weren't involved."
It was later confirmed that the five detained Israelis were in fact Mossad agents. However, FBI and Justice Department superiors succeeded in pushing aside the local FBI agents and the Israelis were released after spending just 71 days in U.S. custody. "Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It's classified information," a U.S. official told Fox News at the time.
The compliant mainstream media completely ignored the Israeli connection. Rather it immediately blamed OSAMA BIN LADEN even though he had no record of doing anything on this scale. On the day of the attacks, CIA Director George Tenet said "You know, this has bin Laden's fingerprints all over it."
But a number of intelligence officials have raised questions about BIN LADEN's capabilities. "This guy sits in a cave in Afghanistan and he's running this operation?" one CIA official said at the time. "It's so huge. He couldn't have done it alone."
BIN LADEN himself denied any involvement in the attacks. The BBC published his denial in which he clearly stated: "I was not involved in the September 11 attacks in the United States nor did I have knowledge of the attacks. There exists a government within a government within the United States. The United States should try to trace the perpetrators of these attacks within itself…" (Most of us never heard that quote on our nightly newscast).
To date, the only shred of "evidence" against bin Laden is a barely audible fuzzy amateur video that the Pentagon just happened to find "lying around" in Afghanistan.
Blaming the horrible attacks on the Arabs was the best thing that has even happened to Israel. Now Washington, once again, solidly stands in the pro-Israeli camp, and "Palestinians be damned!"
http://www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/conspiracy_theory/fullstory.asp?id=287
WHEN WERE THE BOMBS PUT IN THE TOWERS?
Ever wonder how the bombs were put in the towers? Did you know the President's brother had a moving company in the towers and building 7 in the weeks prior to 911? Did you know that that moving company was Israeli (Urban Moving systems).
When were the bombs put in the towers? Ask yourself that. Then who was caught working for a fake moving company (a front for the Mossad) in New Jersey after they were spotted dancing and taking pictures of themselves smiling with the backdrop of the burning towers? What same moving company was in the WTC towers when the power was cut off for days prior to 911? Oh yes the power to the WTC was cut off prior to 911 and the security cameras were down. (think Al Qaeda did that?)
They were released by the FBI when Ashcroft put a lid on it, and they went back to Israel. Their van had traced of explosives in it, box cutters, thousands in cash, and highlighted maps of New York. When tested they failed SEVEN polygraph tests - which are 98% accurate.
Quote: According to Scott Forbes, a senior database administrator for Fiduciary Trust, Inc. – a high-net investment bank which was later acquired by Franklin Templeton – this is precisely what took place. Forbes, who was hired by Fiduciary in 1999 and is now stationed at a U.K. branch office, was working on the weekend of September 8-9, 2001, and said that his company was given three weeks advance notice that New York's Port Authority would take out power in the South Tower from the 48th floor up.
http://www.rys2sense.com/anti-neocons/viewtopic.php?t=1326
Sept. 11, 2001 - Gen. Mahmud of the ISI (see #16), friend of Mohammed Atta, is visiting Washington on behalf of the Taliban. He is meeting with the Chairmen of the House and Senate Intelligence Committees, Rep. Porter Goss, R-Fla., and Sen. Bob Graham, D-Fla., [Source: MSNBC, Oct. 7, 2001; The New York Times, Feb. 17, 2002]
Sept. 11, 2001 - Employees of Odigo, Inc. in Israel, one of the world's largest instant messaging companies with offices in New York, receive threat warnings of an imminent attack on the WTC less than two hours before the first plane hits. Law enforcement authorities have gone silent about any investigation of this. The Odigo research and development offices in Israel are located in the city of Herzliyya, a ritzy suburb of Tel Aviv that is the same location as the Institute for Counter Terrorism, which eight days later reports details of insider trading on 9-11. [Source: CNN's Daniel Sieberg, Sept. 28, 2001; MSNBC Newsbytes, Brian McWilliams, Sept. 27, 2001; Ha'aretz, Sept. 26, 2001]
SEPTEMBER 11, 2001
Cheney was initially taken by the secret service to an underground bunker in the White House called the Presidential Emergency Operations Center.
From there, according to CNN, Cheney directed the US government's response to the unfolding attack.
Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta was in the Presidential Emergency Operating Center with Vice President Cheney as Flight 77 approached Washington, D.C. On May 23, 2003 in front of the 9/11 Commission, Secretary Mineta testified:
"During the time that the airplane was coming in to the Pentagon, there was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President, "The plane is 50 miles out." "The plane is 30 miles out." And when it got down to "the plane is 10 miles out," the young man also said to the Vice President, "Do the orders still stand?" And the Vice President turned and whipped his neck around and said, "Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?"
As the plane in question hit the Pentagon, what else can we conclude but that the 'order' was not to shoot down the aircraft and to let it find its target.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2004/080904wargamescover.h tm
Posted by plunger at 09/13/2006 @ 12:12pm
Sept. 11-12, 2001
ANTHRAX PREPARATION
Nearly a month before the first reported outbreak, White House officials start taking the powerful antibiotic Cipro to treat anthrax. By the end of the year it will be known that the Ames strain of anthrax used in the attacks against Sens. Leahy and Daschle was produced by CIA programs coordinated through Fort Detrick, the Batelle Memorial Institute and the Dugway Proving Ground. [Source: NBC; CNN; www.tetrahedron.org www.judicialwatch.org]
REMEMBER THE ANTHRAX ATTACKS AGAINST CONGRESS AND THE MEDIA?
RUMSFELD DID IT – USING MOSSAD FRONT URBAN MOVING IN NEW JERSEY
Philip Zack of 911 anthrax fame was employed by Rumsfeld's biotech firm Gilead:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/frameup/message/18147
News Story identifying Dr. Philip Zack as the man caught entering the Anthrax storage area at Fort Detrick without authorization.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/anthraxsuspect.html
Conspiracy Flashback to the Ford Administration - and look who is running the ANTHRAX coverup...
http://www.frankolsonproject.org/Articulations/Script-CodeNameArtichoke. html
HERE'S WHY:
Daschle: Congress Denied Bush War Powers AND DOMESTIC SPYING in U.S.
By Barton Gellman Washington Post Staff Writer Friday, December 23, 2005; Page A04
The Bush administration requested, and Congress rejected, war-making authority "in the United States" in negotiations over the joint resolution passed days after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, according to an opinion article by former Senate majority leader Thomas A. Daschle (D-S.D.) in today's Washington Post.
Daschle's disclosure challenges a central legal argument offered by the White House in defense of the National Security Agency's warrantless wiretapping of U.S. citizens and permanent residents. It suggests that Congress refused explicitly to grant authority that the Bush administration now asserts is implicit in the resolution.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/22/AR2
And then...a few weeks later...
W A S H I N G T O N, Nov. 1 A group of military scientists is feverishly examining the microscopic spores of anthrax sent to Sen. Tom Daschle for clues to a mystery that could have profound implications for the United States and its ongoing war on terror: Who made it?
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92006&page=1
URBAN MOVING EMPLOYED THE DANCING ISRAELIS
TRACES OF ANTHRAX WERE DISCOVERED AT URBAN MOVING
Wayne Madsen Report
After the Israelis were detained for several months in Brooklyn as terrorist suspects, they were quickly deported to Israel. After the FBI questioned Suter on September 11, he fled the United States on September 14, 2001. The FBI was due to question Suter again before he fled the country. Later, Federal law enforcement agents discovered pipes, caps, explosive chemical materials, and traces of anthrax at the Weehawken warehouse. Suter's name and those of some of his moving employees turned up in a CIA database of foreign intelligence agents. Suter's name also appeared on an FBI 9-11 terrorism suspect list. Suter's year of birth is listed as 1970 with a social security number of 129-78-0926. His addresses before 9-11 are listed as 28 Harlow Crescent Rd., Fairlawn, NJ 07410; 312 Pavonia Ave., Jersey City, NJ 07302; and 15000 Dickens, Suite 11, Sherman Oaks CA. If Suter has been permitted to re-enter the United States, the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security and its chief Michael Chertoff have a lot of explaining to do.
ABC 20/20 STORY ABOUT THE "DANCING ISRAELIS" (archived)
http://web.archive.org/web/20030210083142/http://abcnews.go.com/sections /2020/DailyNews/2020_whitevan_020621.html
SUNDAY HERALD ARTICLE ABOUT THE "DANCING ISRAELIS"
http://www.sundayherald.com/37707
Israeli Mossad & 9/11
http://la.indymedia.org/news/2003/11/92910.php
After reviewing the evidence, there can only be one logical reason as to why a group (perhaps multiple groups) of young Israeli men, in which some where found out to be Mossad agents, were celebrating, filming, and taking pictures of themselves on 9/11 with the burning WTC in the background; they were in on it.
Five men detained as suspected conspirators
Wednesday, September 12, 2001
http://killtown.blogspot.com/2005/11/dancing-israelis-on-911.html
A MILITARY AIRCRAFT STUCK THE PENTAGON
Flight 77 is allegedly flown into the Pentagon by 28 year old Saudi Arabian Hani Hanjour who has never flown a Boeing 757 in real life, described by many of his former flight instructors as a "horrible pilot."
"Staff members characterized Mr. Hanjour as polite, meek and very quiet. But most of all, the former employee said, they considered him a very bad pilot. "I'm still to this day amazed that he could have flown into the Pentagon," the former employee said. "He could not fly at all." - New York Times (05/04/02)
Experienced air traffic controllers thought that the alleged Boeing 757 that was flying towards the Pentagon flew like a "military jetfighter."
"The speed, the maneuverability, the way that he turned, we all thought in the radar room, all of us experienced air traffic controllers, that that was a military plane," says O'Brien. "You don't fly a 757 in that manner. It's unsafe."
"And it went six, five, four. And I had it in my mouth to say, three, and all of a sudden the plane turned away. In the room, it was almost a sense of relief. This must be a fighter. This must be one of our guys sent in, scrambled to patrol our capital, and to protect our president, and we sat back in our chairs and breathed for just a second," says O'Brien.
But the plane continued to turn right until it had made a 360-degree maneuver." - ABC (10/24/01)
"But just as the plane seemed to be on a suicide mission into the White House, the unidentified pilot executed a pivot so tight that it reminded observers of a fighter jet maneuver." "Aviation sources said the plane was flown with extraordinary skill, making it highly likely that a trained pilot was at the helm, possibly one of the hijackers." - Washington Post (9/12/01)
"Radar shows Flight 77 did a downward spiral, turning almost a complete circle and dropping the last 7,000 feet in two-and-a-half minutes."
"The steep turn was so smooth, the sources say, it's clear there was no fight for control going on. - CBS (9/21/01)
Gilah Goldsmith, personnel attorney at the Pentagon:
"We saw a huge black cloud of smoke," she said, saying it smelled like cordite, or gun smoke." - Jewish News Weekly (09/21/01)
Don Perkal, deputy General Counsel, Office of the Secretary of Defense:
"Even before stepping outside I could smell the cordite."
Cordite is a smokeless propellant explosive made by combining two explosives: nitrocellulose and nitroglycerin. It has commonly been used in firearms since the early 20th Century. It has also been used in solid fuel rockets.
A3 SKYWARRIOR WITH CORDITE-POWERED SOLID-FUEL ROCKET MOTOR STRIKES PENTAGON:
The A-3 Skywarrior that hit the Pentagon was owned by Raytheon.
It was guided by Sysplan's (FTS) technology.
It intercepted AA 77 and shadowed it so closely so as to appear to be a single aircraft on radar.
http://www.team8plus.org/the-movement/radar/Radar.htm
This A-3 was converted into a missile itself.
The "plane" is a "missle."
Against all protocol (and the law), the lawn of the Pentagon became a hive of activity as Government employees scurried to taint a crime scene (and the site of what would typically result in an FAA investigation), removing all essential evidence.
The type of aircraft and engines used to attack the Pentagon.
This shows the Raytheon connection to 9/11.
THE ANSWER:
http://www.rense.com/general70/safe.htm
9/11 AND THE RAYTHEON CONNECTION:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2006/09/06/nbc-news-army-may-have-_n_28869 .html?p=2#comments
Posted by plunger at 09/13/2006 @ 12:12pm
ISRAELI SPY RING EXPOSED BY FOX NEWS 4 PART SERIES:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fm0_7jVqcE
Oct. 10, 2001
The Pakistani newspaper The Frontier Post reports that U.S. Ambassador Wendy Chamberlain has paid a call on the Pakistani oil minister. A previously abandoned Unocal gas pipeline project from Turkmenistan, across Afghanistan, to Pakistan is now back on the table "in view of recent geopolitical developments."
Nov. 25, 2001
The Observer runs a story headlined "Victorious Warlords Set To Open the Opium Floodgates." It states that farmers are being encouraged by warlords allied with the victorious Americans are "being encouraged to plant as much opium as possible."
LARRY SILVERSTEIN'S ROLE REVEALED:
http://www.myspace.com/911CoverUp
http://z8.invisionfree.com/AlQuranAndSunnah/index.php?showtopic=343&st=0 &#last
http://www.wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5.htm
WTC Owner Larry Silverstein confessing to 9/11 DEMOLITION:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7750532340306101329&q=silverste in&hl=en
I T ' S
A L L
A B O U T
T H E
P R E T E X T
If you retrace Bush 41s footsteps from the Reagan era forward, you'll see how a criminal enterprise was developed between Bush Senior and many co-conspirators (Primarily Israel and the Christian Coalition) whose primary motivation was power and greed.
Former CIA Head and US President 41 was in bed with Israel and Mossad running tons of drugs.
He was floored when he lost his power to the Sax-playing Governor from Arkansas with whom he had a secrecy pact that allowed for Bush 41's CIA drug shipments to Mena Arkansas:
"I have put thousands of Americans away for tens of thousands of years for less evidence for conspiracy with less evidence than is available against Ollie North and CIA people. . . . I personally was involved in a deep-cover case that went to the top of the drug world in three countries. The CIA killed it."
Former DEA Agent Michael Levine CNBC-TV, October 8, 1996
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/MENA/mena.html
ARKANSAS GOVERNOR BILL CLINTON PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH CIA DRUGS FOR GUNS CONNECTION
http://www.ncoic.com/clinton.htm
Mena began as the brain-child of CIA's Bill Casey, operated by CIA pilots flying out of NSA-controlled facilities. But the process became an NSA institution, a vast money-making enterprise by the nation's largest, best-financed intelligence agency. And they've been making too much money to stop.
Why is the Mossad, like the White House, in panic mode over the reopening of the investigation into Foster's death? What is it they don't want the U.S. public to find out? Why did the operating code for a new computer developed by NSA-subcontractor E-Systems of Dallas, Texas, end up in the hands of the Israelis within one month? Did Vince Foster sell it to them? Why are two LAKAM representatives offering a fee of $75,000 plus 1 percent of the proceeds to recover money from Swiss Bank Corporation? Is it because Vince Foster is not around to release it for them? Or did the armed raid on Mossad headquarters by U.S. contract agents within the past year create so much confusion someone just forgot the authorization codes?
http://orlingrabbe.com/part33.htm
http://orlingrabbe.com/part34.htm
http://orlingrabbe.com/vince_foster.htm
N U C L E A R
B L A C K M A I L
One nation, ISRAEL, becomes a VIRTUAL NUCLEAR POWER.
Missile launches take place in a virtual reality. Given the proper launch code, the missile will attempt to go to its programmed destination without further theological debate.
A country possessing the launch codes and also targeting information for another country's nuclear missiles could become a virtual nuclear power. (The targeting information would be as important as the launch codes. For before you launched a missile, you would first want to know where it is going. After all, it could be aimed at you.) Getting your nuclear arms this ways would have obvious economic advantages: someone else would foot the military bill.
Jim Norman states in Fostergate:
"According to a heavily-redacted New Mexico FBI counter- intelligence report, Maxwell was apparently allowed to sell two copies of PROMIS back to the U.S. weapons labs at Sandia and Los Alamos, for what Inslaw claims was a hugely inflated price of $37 million. That would have allowed Pollard, if he was using the rigged program, to obtain U.S. missile targeting data long before Israel had its own satellite capability, thus making it a real nuclear threat to the Soviet Union."
Well, yes, it could make Israel a real threat to the Soviet Union. But not from Israel's own puny missile program. Rather, Israel could be a threat to the Soviet Union because it would be able to launch our (U.S.) missiles at the Soviet Union. Being a virtual nuclear power would mean not having to say you are sorry. If a U.S. missile were launched at Russia, the defense system of Russia would, in its virtual view of the world, see the missile as coming from the U.S. It would launch a retaliatory strike against the U.S., because in its reality only the U.S. could be responsible. It wouldn't be programmed to recognize "Missile from U.S. not U.S.-intended action."
Being a virtual nuclear power means you could blackmail people in both directions: you could blackmail the targeted city or area. More importantly, you could blackmail the U.S. If the U.S. doesn't go along with your demands, why, you could involve it in a nuclear war in which you would be a spectator, not a participant. The U.S. would know it has more to lose than you do, so it would give in to your demands.
Vince Foster's NSA connections wouldn't give him access to such launch codes and targeting data. Not even with the help of Jonathan Pollard. It would take the cooperation of a small circle of friends--friends with Defense and Intelligence connections. People with access. People with authority.
Would any of the U.S.'s own Defense Department or Intelligence personnel in the 1980s or the 1990s, people other than Jonathan Pollard, have been involved in such a transfer of information to a foreign power--whether to Israel or to anyone else?
Surely not anyone connected to the account numbers KPFBMMBODB or KPFBMMBODE held at the Union Bank of Switzerland? Please, say it ain't so.
http://orlingrabbe.com/part7.htm
Why is it that the sale of bona fide national security secrets is tolerated, even rewarded with lucrative payments to Swiss accounts, while journalistic reports about THE LOOTING AND SALE OF U.S. NUCLEAR SECRETS are quashed as "national security"? Is the Pentagon run by lunatics and thieves?
http://orlingrabbe.com/part8.htm
Clinton had the goods on Bush 41, and was likely still receiving hush money from him as they ran against one another for President.
Bush loathed the fact that Clinton was in the White House and sought to bring him down. Remember the vast Right Wing Conspiracy claim by Hillary. She knew what she was talking about. Bush Senior aligned himself with his Israeli drug-running partners to bring down the Democratic Party once and for all - with Israel as the promised beneficiary.
The "VAST RIGHT WING CONSPIRACY" of which Hillary spoke was a deal done between Bush 41 and Israel.
The CIA and Mossad were already BUSINESS PARTNERS in the drug trade - under the protection of Bush 41s network. Both 41 and Israel had broader strategic goals - and a common purpose in pursuing them together. A critical third leg of the stool was America's Christian Coalition, who would serve to provide the moral authority for the criminal enterprise.
The co-conspirators were impatient, and didn't want to wait 8 years for the popular Clinton/Gore White House to run its course, leaving Gore in position to retain it for 8 years thereafter. A PRETEXT was required to destroy the Clinton Presidency.
First they launched a full blown investigation into the Whitewater land deal, and when that didn't stick, they looked to more extreme measures to accomplish their GOAL OF DESTROYING THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
S E X P I O N A G E:
Sexpionage is so important to Israel, that it opened an office for this purpose right smack in the center of US political power -- Washington D.C. The office fronts as a post 911 anti-terrorism institute and is located at 3811 N. Fairfax Drive, Suite 720 Arlington, VA 22203. The Chief of the office is non other thaN the former Director of the Israeli MOSSAD, Shabtai Shavit.
http://www.aztlan.net/israeli_sexpionage.htm
Mossad had just the agent for the job - and her name was Monica Lewinsky. The case of intern Monica Lewinsky is now history. It was one of the major factors in the destruction of the legacy of the presidency of Bill Clinton.
Lewinsky was actually a "sexpionage agent" working on behalf of the Israeli government. She was, and probably still is, what the MOSSAD calls a "Swallow".
It is believed that Lewinsky's primary mission was to sexually compromise Bill Clinton in order to bribe him to release the Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard. The timing and unfolding of the "White House Sex Scandal" coincided with the efforts and meetings by the then Israeli Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu with President Bill Clinton in the White House.
1997 Israeli agents place a tap on Monica Lewinsky's phone at the Watergate and record phone sex sessions between her and President Bill Clinton. The Ken Starr report confirms that Clinton warned Lewinsky their conversations were being taped and ended the affair. At the same time, the FBI's hunt for "Mega" (the code name of a top Mossad Operative inside the White House) is called off.
The fact that Jerry Falwell's acknowledgment of how the Lewinsky affair was used as a club against Clinton--in tandem with "Bibi" Netanyahu's appearance at the White House, following the meeting with Falwell--was published in Vanity Fair is interesting in and of itself. That magazine is owned by the far-flung publishing empire of the billionaire Newhouse brothers ("Si" and Donald) whom Forbes dubbed the 25th richest family in America and who are known to be generous contributors to the Anti-Defamation League and other elements of the pro-Israel lobby.
http://www.iamthewitness.com/by_MichaelCollinsPiper3.htm
In an effort by Clinton to rid himself of the "Swallow", he transferred her to the Pentagon with the highest "security clearance" possible and which is only afforded to top brass and a few high level government officials. Soon Monica Lewinsky was cavorting with Admirals and Generals and became pregnant. She says she aborted the baby.
No one knows what Pentagon secrets Lewinsky was able to pass on to the Zionists, but perhaps Paul Wolfowitz' great success in involving the USA in the War against Iraq may be the results of Monica Lewinsky's efforts on behalf of Israel. Sexpionage pays and it is paying big for Israel.
AND REMEMBER PRESIDENT CLINTON'S FINAL ACT UPON DEPARTING THE WHITE HOUSE? THE PARDON OF MARC RICH.
Rich was known to do business with Iran and Iraq as a means of supplying the Mossad and other Israelis with intelligence information.
http://www.liesexposed.net/nfp/issue0109/israel.htm
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/rich.htm
And who are the agents of Marc Rich and Mossad in the White House?
http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2003/3005target_libby.html
Posted by plunger at 09/13/2006 @ 12:13pm
THE PLAN FOR THE MILITARY COUP TO OVERTHROW THE US GOVERNMENT UNDER THE FALSE-FLAG BANNER OF THE "CONSERVATIVE" REPUBLICAN PARTY – AND CHRISTIANITY.
Lobbying for Armageddon
By Sarah Posner, AlterNet. Posted August 3, 2006.
Some influential evangelical leaders are lobbying for an attack on Iran. But it's not about geopolitics -- it's about bringing about the End Times.
In a perfect world, a reporter at last week's press conference with George Bush and Tony Blair would have asked Bush, in the presence of his principal European ally, if he believes the European Union is the Antichrist.
Although it sounds like the kind of Pat Robertson lunacy that makes even the wingnuts run for the nearest exit, it's a question Bush should be forced to answer. Bush and other leading Republicans have lined up behind a growing movement of Christian Zionists for whom a European Antichrist figures prominently in an end-times scenario. So they should be forced to explain to the rest of us why they're courting the votes of people who believe our allies are evil incarnate. Could it be that the central requirement for their breathlessly anticipated Armageddon -- that the United States confront Iran -- happens to dovetail so nicely with the neoconservative war agenda?
At the center of it all is Pastor John Hagee, a popular televangelist who leads the 18,000-member Cornerstone Church in San Antonio, Texas. Hagee doesn't fear a nuclear conflagration, but rather God's wrath for standing by as Iran executes its supposed plot to destroy Israel. A nuclear confrontation between America and Iran, which he says is foretold in the Book of Jeremiah, will not lead to the end of the world, but rather to God's renewal of the Garden of Eden.
http://www.alternet.org/story/39748/
ENTER KEN LAY AND THE PRETEXT FOR OIL EXPERTS TO BE INSTALLED IN THE WHITE HOUSE…
THE FAKE CALIFORNIA ENERGY CRISIS.
Bush 41 and Ken lay conspired to create a pretext for the Republican Party to recapture the White House AND THEREAFTER – A SECONDARY PRETEXT TO JUSTIFY THE invasion of Iraq and Iran in order to acquire their oil. Their ISRAELI PARTNERS IN CRIME were hell bent on EXPANDING THE REALM OF ISRAEL TO INCLUDE ALL OF "ERETZ ISRAEL" - which conveniently overlapped the OIL MONGER's strategy. Getting the American Public behind such an invasion was just one part of the essential pretext to justify an invasion. An oil shortage in the US was a REQUIREMENT – and Mr. Lay's electronic oil trading platform was more than capable of creating a distribution log-jam in DEMOCRATIC California sufficient to sway voters to elect OIL EXPERTS to the White House. The plan was ALWAYS to have Dick Cheney be on that ticket.
Wouldn't if be nice to learn the details of how Lay and Cheney were divvying up the oil fields in Iraq on a big map, even before 9/11?
Wouldn't it be enlightening to hear that Lay knew for a fact that 9/11 was going to happen as the pretext for the war plan which he clearly had knowledge of prior to 9/11?
Why would you sit around countless energy planning meetings dividing up the oil fields of Iraq in advance of 9/11 unless there were a plan in place to make it possible?
Such a plan would by necessity be a war plan, and this war plan was actually in place prior to 9/11.
Surely any good war plan requires at its core a starting point, a trigger if you will that provides a good "cover story" to implement it. Clearly you can't just go around invading countries without a good reason...you need to be attacked first, then retaliate.
Was 9/11 simply part of the war plan?
Why wouldn't it have been?
You can't hit the "GO" button without a pretext.
9/11 was the pretext for the invasion of the Middle East - all by design.
9/11 - THE TERROR PRETEXT
The term NeoCon roughly translates to "Israeli Spy." If you always assume that anyone referred to as a "NeoCon" is in fact an operative for the Zionists – you'll likely be correct.
GIVEN A CHOICE, THE NEOCON WILL ALWAYS CHOOSE THE BEST INTEREST OF ISRAEL OVER THE UNITED STATES – AND LYING IS JUST PART OF THE EQUATION. Lying for Israel is the right thing to do.
Whenever you hear that testimony is being given without the requirement of being sworn under oath – you can be certain a NEOCON is behind that decision.
If one-half of the pretext required an apparent energy crisis in the United States, the other half of the pretext required TERROR. Bush 41 was well acquainted with false flag terror tactics, and knew full-well that Mossad were the experts. With Cheney and Rumsfeld firmly in control of the entire plan, and with the aid of their internal NeoZionist Operatives (Libby, Feith, Wurmser, Zakheim, Chertoff, etc.) running interference from inside the US Government, Mossad could be relied upon to recruit the operatives necessary to implement the PNAC's "NEW PEARL HARBOR," which would serve as the ESSENTIAL PRETEXT for the activation of their new business arrangement with Israel.
Beginning in early 2001, Cheney and Lay began meeting with other top oil industry executives to iron out a strategy for how best to handle the acquisition of the oil fields in the Middle East.
Although we recognize the need for executive privilege, it is hard to imagine anything related to something as non-national-security related a topic as our an energy policy, that would be such a threat to national security as to declare it off limits to all. By US Law this is public information, but Mr. "Shred the Constitution" Cheney has used every ounce of executive power in order to keep the lid on his meeting notes.
What could they contain? Dealings with the Taliban; negotiating a pipeline perhaps? Enron deals? Does anyone remember that Bush used an Enron company jet to travel during his campaign and that one of his campaign platforms was to deal with the "energy crisis", which turned out to be nothing more that an Enron scam on California? Could it be details parsing out Iraqi OIL? Hmm? Must be some important stuff in there, Dickey;-)
http://www.tvnewslies.org/html/cheney_s_secrets.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/15/AR200511 1501842.html
For a full accounting of all of Cheney's lies relative to his plan to take over the oil fields of the Middle East, go here:
http://www.judicialwatch.org/cgi-bin/search/exec/search.cgi?search=chene y+maps&perform_search=Search&skin=
As Cheney was working to lay the groundwork for the enrichment of himself and his cronies (through the increase in oil prices and the requirement for replacing the infrastructure that he knew would be destroyed), other Operatives within the administration were busy knocking down any attempt to uncover the developing plot for 9/11.
GW himself personally told the FBI to back off any and all investigations related to the Bin Laden Family, the Able Danger Unit was shut down and all of its files were destroyed, and field reports regarding suspicious foreigners at flight schools in Minnesota and Florida were magically buried.
ENTER MOSSAD SWALLOW #2 – CHANDRA LEVY
Whereas the Monica Lewinsky case involved mere deviant sexual trysts in the Oval Office, the Chandra Levy case involving Democratic Congressman and senior member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, Gary Condit, involved murder.
As member of the committee, Condit was privy to highly classified information of much interest to Zionist Israel. The MOSSAD leaned on their "sleeper and sexpionage agent" Chandra Levy to obtain the secret US government information that the Israeli government needed. The MOSSAD arranged for Chandra Levy, than a US government intern, to meet Congressman Condit.
Whatever classified information Levy was able to obtain, on her "sexpionage mission", was at the cost of her life. One day before she was to return to California, she disappeared without a trace.
A spokeswoman for Vice President Dick Cheney, said Cheney met with Condit around the same time Levy was logging off her computer in her apartment May 1, 2001 – the day she disappeared.
Juleanna Glover Weiss said the meeting happened between 12:30 p.m. and 12:50 p.m. in Cheney's office in the House of Representatives. The meeting was "at Condit's request," she said, and included Cheney and some of Cheney's staff discussing the California energy crisis.
Had Condit informed Levy of a pending attack on the World Trade Center – or did she learn of it on her own? Remember it was Cheney's job to ensure that the TERROR PRETEXT come off without a hitch. If Levy knew, she had to be eliminated. She was about to fly home to California to visit her parents, and told them that she had some "BIG NEWS" to share with them.
In 2001 it was discovered that US drug agents' communications have been penetrated. Suspicion falls on two companies, AMDOCS and Comverse Infosys, both owned by Israelis. Comverse Infosys builds the tapping equipment used by law enforcement to eavesdrop on all American telephone calls, but suspicion forms that Comverse, which gets half of its research and development budget from the Israeli government, has built a back door into the system that is being exploited by Israeli intelligence.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7545.htm
It is quite likely that Mossad had tapped Levy's call to her parents, and informed Cheney that the "Big Wedding" (9/11 plot) had been compromised. Levy's meeting with Cheney at the exact time of her disappearance was specifically designed to provide Condit with an alibi.
Posted by plunger at 09/13/2006 @ 12:14pm
Zbigniew Brzezinski and September 11th
December 23, 2001
For those who are able and willing to accept the way in which history actually works, the evidence provided by the U.S. events of Sept. 11th permitted but one concise conclusion: The crucial developments inside the U.S.A., between the bookends of approximately 08:45 and 11:00 h EDT, were a reflection of an attempted military coup d'état against the U.S. government of President George W. Bush.
My detailed knowledge of the onrushing strategic crisis within which those attacks were situated, allowed no other conclusion, than that this was an attempted military coup d'état with a global strategic purpose of the most ominous implications imaginable.
Once those facts are taken into account, two leading problems in subsequently adopted U.S. policies must be emphasized.
First: Why, apparently, did senior professional military and intelligence professionals not advise President Bush against permitting the diversionary targeting of former U.S. special-warfare asset Osama bin Laden, as the alleged prime culprit in this affair?
The second, related question, is: Why, despite the massive accumulation of relevant actual evidence since Sept. 11, do many official circles around the world still prefer to defend the consoling delusion, the current, officially blessed explanation of the events of Sept. 11, that "Osama bin Laden did it," even after months (years) of their failure to present the public with any solid proof of their allegation?
For competent counterintelligence specialists, the first question posed by the bare facts of the attacks on New York and Washington, was: What was that continuing action waiting to be unleashed by the successful effect of those attacks? The coup-attempt could not have been mobilized without the presence of such pre-existing, more broadly based intentions. Those intentions are well known to all relevant authorities: a.) setting off a richocheting thermonuclear alert; and b.) the launching of a generalized state of religious and related warfare throughout most of the planet, with the ongoing actions of the current Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) as its leading expression. Now, after the events of Sept. 11th, there is no reasonable doubt of such broadly-based intentions. Therefore, any competent counterintelligence investigation, and consequent strategic assessments, must be crafted accordingly.
Therefore, the investigation must judge the plot behind Sept. 11th as crafted as a means to an end; it is that end on which our attention must be focused, and against which the effort must be concentrated. As in war, once the plot itself has failed, the plotters will become vulnerable to exposure, and their complicity can be reviewed safely, calmly, relatively at leisure.
http://www.larouchepub.com/lar/2002/2901zbig_sept11.html
Zbigniew Brzezinski
The Grand Chessboard
American Primacy And It's Geostrategic Imperatives
Key Quotes From Zbigniew Brzezinksi's Seminal Book
"In the long run, global politics are bound to become increasingly uncongenial to the concentration of hegemonic power in the hands of a single state. Hence, America is not only the first, as well as the only, truly global superpower, but it is also likely to be the very last."
As America becomes an increasingly multi-cultural society, it may find it more difficult to fashion a consensus on foreign policy issues, except in the circumstance of a truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat."
"The attitude of the American public toward the external projection of American power has been much more ambivalent. The public supported America's engagement in World War II largely because of the shock effect of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor."
"It is also a fact that America is too democratic at home to be autocratic abroad. This limits the use of America's power, especially its capacity for military intimidation. Never before has a populist democracy attained international supremacy. But the pursuit of power is not a goal that commands popular passion, except in conditions of a sudden threat or challenge to the public's sense of domestic well-being. The economic self-denial (that is, defense spending) and the human sacrifice (casualties, even among professional soldiers) required in the effort are uncongenial to democratic instincts. Democracy is inimical to imperial mobilization."
http://www.wanttoknow.info/brzezinskigrandchessboard
COMVERSE INVESTIGATION TIED TO REPORTER'S BEATING AT THE HANDS OF HOMELAND SECURITY GOONS AS POLICE LOOK ON?
Christopher Bollyn, investigative journalist for American Free Press, was beaten and arrested on trumped-up charges at his home in Hoffman Estates, Illinois.
Excerpt:
Apart from my un-disclosable investigation, the other calls were about how Jacob "Kobi" Alexander was able to flee with more than $60 million dollars last week, several months after it was public knowledge that he and the other Israelis working with Comverse Technology, Ltd. had swindled hundred of millions through fraudulent stock options trades. This has been going on for years, and The Wall Street Journal and Globes (Israel) reported the names and the amounts last March. For crying out loud, my newspaper, American Free Press, reported it in April 2005.
I wanted to know from the SEC and the U.S. Attorney's office how this Kobi Alexander was able to wire $60 million to his account in Israel and flee New York without any body stopping him.
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?noframes;read=91920
WHAT ROLE DID COMVERSE PLAY IN THE EVENTS OF 9/11?
Well, according to this 4 part investigative series by FOX News, plenty:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7545.htm
It turns out that Odigo, the paging system owned by Comverse, was used to alert Israeli Nationals to steer clear of the World Trade Towers fully two hours before the attacks of 9/11.
Comverse is also the company that handles all of the back-end billing for virtually every phone company in the United States – having built-in a backdoor to wiretap nearly every call made.
Israel had spies crawling all over the United States at some of our most sensitive facilities prior to 9/11:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/deareportisraelispying.html
Bollyn had also revealed in a prior article that Michael Chertoff is actually a citizen of Israel:
CONTROLLED PRESS HIDES CHERTOFF'S ISRAELI ROOTS
Posted By: ChristopherBollyn Date: Friday, 4 March 2005, 1:32 p.m.
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=66175
Remember that Chertoff had been tasked with tracking the funding behind 9/11 under the name "OPERATION GREENQUEST." In reality – this was an effort to coverup the funding trail:
"The FBI-Justice move [to take over the investigation], pushed by DOJ Criminal Division chief Michael Chertoff and Deputy Attorney General Larry Thompson, has enraged Homeland Security officials, however. They accuse the bureau [Chertoff] of sabotaging Greenquest investigations--by failing to turn over critical information to their agents--and trying to obscure a decadelong record of lethargy [actually criminal obstruction] in which FBI offices failed to aggressively pursue terror-finance cases.
"They (the FBI) won't share anything with us," said a Homeland Security official. "Then they go to the White House and they accuse us of not sharing … If they can't take it over, they want to kill it."
So Who Is This Chertoff Guy?
If you're a 9-11 researcher, then you already know that: "Chertoff's Cousin Penned Popular Mechanics 9/11 Hit Piece." The cousin goes by the name of Benjamin Chertoff, whom the Hearst (yellow journalism inc.) publication Popular Mechanics made the "senior researcher" for the piece. This Popular Mechanics article was so ridiculously bad, that it claimed:
Popular Mechanics: "In the decade before 9/11 NORAD intercepted only one civilian plane over North America: golfer Payne Stewart's Learjet, in October 1999."
If you're not laughing out loud, it's probably because you're crying out loud.
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=2872
IT WAS CHERTOFF WHO SET FREE FIVE ISRAELI 9/11 SUSPECTS:
It doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to connect the dots of the dancing Israeli Mossad agents
"Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It's classified information."
US official quoted in Carl Cameron's Fox News report.
In fact, he said, the nature of the investigation changed after the names of two of the five Israelis showed up on a CIA-FBI database of foreign intelligence operatives, he said. At that point, he said, the bureau took control of the investigation and launched a Foreign Counterintelligence Investigation, or FCI.
FBI investigations into possible links to the September 11 attacks are usually carried by the bureau's counterterrorism division, not its counterintelligence division.
"An FCI means not only that it was serious but also that it was handled at a very high level and very tightly," the former official said. That view was echoed by several former FBI officials interviewed.
According to ABCNEWS sources, Israeli and U.S. government officials worked out a deal -- and after 71 days, the five Israelis were taken out of jail, put on a plane, and deported back home.
The men all underwent at least two polygraph tests each, the lawyer added. He said one of the Israelis took the test seven times, a very unusual total according to several polygraph experts interviewed by the Forward. All failed their tests.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/Artstudents.htm
http://killtown.blogspot.com/2005/11/dancing-israelis-on-911.html
LA Times: "When President Clinton took office, he fired all the U.S. attorneys who had served under his Republican predecessor except one: New Jersey U.S. Attorney Michael Chertoff."
That's some exceptional guy, as the article shows. It reveals something quite out of the ordinary about Michael Chertoff.
Not a word from anyone in power about Chertoff's successful defense of a known bin Laden financier. Even though the Bergen Record newspaper had published the facts of the case in a series of articles. This news was never picked up nationally -- somehow not being newsworthy enough to rate a few lines in the major press -- and they call this "freedom" and "democracy," ad nauseum.
Michael Chertoff was confirmed by the senate in a vote of 98-0.
http://crimesofthestate.blogspot.com/2005/10/butcher-of-new-orleans.html
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/Artstudents.htm#_ftn24
Think back to the Katrina debacle. remember how Bush stepped out in front of Chertoff and said "blame me" - not Chertoff?
Bush was protecting Chertoff. What does Chertoff have on the Bush family?
CHERTOFF CREATED TERROR PRETEXTS FOR US POLICE STATE
http://www.newswithviews.com/Briley/Patrick4.htm
Posted by plunger at 09/13/2006 @ 12:15pm
Posted by PLUNGER 09/13/2006 @ 12:15am
PLUNGER "We know" the nuclear warhead(s) that blew up the Twin Towers MUST have been Israeli....but...
were the Revell model planes bought from a hobby store owned by Raytheon.....the sheeple must know!
Posted by Mask at 09/13/2006 @ 12:21pm
That is great ND, thanks for passing that along.
Posted by CRABWALK 09/13/2006 @ 12:06am
Glad someone else found is useful and relevant, Crab.
Posted by New Dawn at 09/13/2006 @ 12:40pm
"it"
Posted by New Dawn at 09/13/2006 @ 12:40pm
Posted by PUGS2001 09/12/2006 @ 4:56pm
Huh....so BushCo is a terrorist organization (be definition) - not that its a surprise I suppose. Maybe someone should tell Homeland Security! (ha-ha-ha)
Posted by leftofcenter at 09/13/2006 @ 2:13pm
Posted by NEW DAWN 09/13/2006 @ 11:38am
bravo as well.....
Posted by leftofcenter at 09/13/2006 @ 2:15pm
Posted by NEW DAWN 09/13/2006 @ 11:38am
My Pet Goat has a better plot line.
- George W. Bush
Posted by fromredbird at 09/13/2006 @ 3:04pm
Isikoff and Corn will be on my Bay Area radio station KGO in an hour, discussing "Hubris".
Can't wait.
Posted by New Dawn at 09/13/2006 @ 5:19pm
Posted by NEW DAWN 09/12/2006 @ 12:36am
Boy, ND, what a non-stop crock of shit. When you sift through all the rambling, disjointed blather, you find that according to Olberman, Bush is now responsible for:
- writing the 'Path to 9/11' (a very well-written show that shows the Clinton White House for what it was, a bunch of blithering cover-your-ass-at-all-costs bureaucratic ninnies that were presented with numerous opportunities to take out Bin Laden, and took none of them because of the political risks involved)
- all of the failures of true-blue New York City politics (see the above point for the bureaucratic style involved) in failing to fill the WTC hole
- failing to dissuade you people on the left from your white-hot, irrational hatred of George Bush which makes you fight his every decision, every step of the way, whether it makes patently good sense or not.
First he's talking about Disney's 'sell out of the truth', then he's talking about old Twilight Zone episodes. What a nutter! No wonder you folks like him so much! Good thing your watching, because he only gets about 3,000 watching this joke every night, it's a wonder his show is still on at all.
Posted by pontificus at 09/13/2006 @ 11:43pm
Speaking of Olbermann, has anybody heard how well Air America is doing? Seems to me that liberal (oh, excuse me, PROGRESSIVE) message should be hugely popular, reverberating about the country, and catching on like wildfire right about now! Anybody hear about Air America soaring in the ratings yet?
Posted by pontificus at 09/13/2006 @ 11:47pm
Hey, before all you lefties starting writing up all those cute 'Bush: Hands off Iran!!!' signs you might want to read the latest news:
Iranian Teens Executed for Homosexuality
Gay.com/PlanetOut.com Network, July 22, 2005
Iran publicly executed two teenagers on Tuesday accusing them of raping a 13-year-old boy and having gay sex, according to Iran's ISNA news agency.
The two teenagers were hanged in Edalat (Justice) Square in Mashhad, Iran's second-largest city. They were only identified by their initials, M.A. and A.M.
Before their execution, the teenagers were held in prison for 14 months and lashed 228 times.
Ruhollah Rezazadeh, the lawyer for the youngest teenager, appealed to Tehran's Supreme Court, saying his client was too young to be executed, but the court ordered him hanged.
While the teens admitted to having sex with each other, the London-based gay human rights group OutRage! believes the admissions were coerced under torture.
OutRage! also doubts that the 13-year-old was raped, noting that the crime was not mentioned by some key news agencies. The organization believes the alleged rape to be either a trumped-up charge or, it suggests, the 13-year-old was a willing participant.
"This is just the latest barbarity by the Islamo-fascists in Iran," said OutRage! spokesperson Peter Tatchell.
"The entire country is a gigantic prison, with Islamic rule sustained by detention without trial, torture and state-sanctioned murder," Tatchell said.
Iran enforces Islamic Sharia law, which demands the death penalty for gay sex. Under the Iranian penal code, girls as young as nine and boys as young as 15 can be executed.
Members of Iran's parliament hailing from the northeastern city of Mashad complained Wednesday about news coverage of the deaths.
"Instead of paying tribute to the action of the judiciary, the media are mentioning the age of the hanged criminals and creating a commotion that harms the interests of the state," said ultraconservative deputy Ali Asgari in a quote published by Iran Focus.
"Even if certain Web sites made a reference to their age, journalists should not pursue this. These individuals were corrupt. Their sentence was carried out with the approval of the judiciary, and it served them right," he said.
http://www.sodomylaws.org/world/iran/irnews018.htm
Posted by pontificus at 09/14/2006 @ 10:58am
"The selling of Bush's Iraq debacle is one of the most important--and appalling--stories of the last half-century, and Michael Isikoff and David Corn have reported the hell out of it."
In fact, the selling of Bush's Iraq debacle is second only to the debacle of David Corn selling of his new book. Enough with the cheap encyclopedia salesman pitches, Mr. Corn. We get it: You have a new book out. It's called "HUBRIS". It's available on Amazon.com. You want to get rich as hell.
Your credibility is dimished by your tacky insistence on whoring your book in every other paragraph you write. Are you a reporter or a book salesman? Make up your mind.
Posted by Bob Dobolina at 09/14/2006 @ 12:11pm