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RedditNo group (other than the African-American community) is as reliably pro-Obama as the youth vote-- in nearly every match-up Obama beats McCain among 18-29 year-olds by upwards of 20 points. In fact, the case can be made that Obama needs the youth vote to win: their turning out in record numbers is crucial to his success, especially in battleground states like Virginia and Colorado. His team is counting on the fact that this youth bump hasn't shown up in recent polls, which tend to under-sample young voters.
Now, Republicans are hoping Sarah Palin might steal some of Obama's youth-thunder by injecting some badly needed hipness into the aging McCain campaign. In a piece today Republican strategists said they thought Palin could connect with young voters because she's 28 years McCain's junior, and thus closer to their generation. Most specifically, they plan on highlighting her hard-line stance on abortion, which they hope can spike turnout among conservative young evangelists. The story quotes members of outreach groups called Redeem the Vote and Students for Life who are dedicated to making abortion an issue this campaign.
However, hardcore anti-choicers probably weren't voting for Obama anyway, and furthermore, as Bob Moser's March article found, many young evangelicals now are motivated by things other than abortion, such as poverty and the environment, and may not be swayed by Palin's rhetoric. Among young American's overall, more than half support legal abortion, though it ranks low as a priority issue.
More significantly, the McCain campaign hasn't lifted a finger to court young voters so far, and they're going to find it hard to play catch-up to Obama's extensive ground operation, with its major presence on college campuses and huge voter registration initiatives. The McCain campaign has nothing comparable, and on on a local level, Republican efforts to disenfranchise young voters-- such as a letter sent to Virginia Tech students recently telling them they could lose financial aid if they registered to vote there-- certainly won't help McCain's shot at a chunk of the youth vote. Palin's spunk alone isn't going to drive them to the polls.
The article also claims that Palin's "family travails-- a pregnant teenage daughter," will make her more accessible to young voters. I've heard a more cynical version of this as well: the generation reared on reality television won't be able to resist Bristol's baby-mama drama. This claim demeans the intelligence of young voters in a way reminiscent of early attacks that Obama's appeal to young people was "cult-like" and celebrity driven. We'll see if young voters can prove detractors wrong, see through to the issues, and to the fact that Sarah Palin stands far to the right of them.
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Ms Currier, again....
as with Ms vanden Heuvel's peace groups or your colleague Mr Connery and yours' "youth vote"...
no excuses.
Obama gets elected and THEN we'll see the "power of the youth vote".
As I said on those thread "money talks, bulls**t walks"...or politically
"Votes talk, bulls**t walks!"
If McCain wins, I don't want to hear any rationalizatons for why the "youth vote" was "cheated" or whatever.
Do or do not, there is no try...as a long-eared Muppet once said.
Posted by Maskdelta at 09/11/2008 @ 1:04pm
Posted by Maskdelta at 09/11/2008 @ 1:04pm
well,
inform any "young" people you may know or not know.
explain.
help them register.
shake 'em out of bed on election day and drive 'em to the polls.
i've got a son, you know.
FACTS - TRUTH '08
Out With The Mold, In With The Knew.
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/11/2008 @ 1:07pm
All Obama has to do is REMIND STUDENTS that McCain was the WRONG KIND OF MAVERICK and bucked his party by being only 1 0f 18 senators to VOTE AGAINST student financial aid!
http://tinyurl.com/57veog
Posted by Metteyya at 09/11/2008 @ 1:18pm
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/11/2008 @ 1:07pm
I am. But I don't want any more excuses from the "youth vote" advocates or "peace group" advocates on why their "massive numbers" and "great power and influence" was somehow "cheated" from them.
Put up or shut up. Oh...and best of luck too, we'll need it.
Posted by Maskdelta at 09/11/2008 @ 1:39pm
Excellent article. I believe that if you are an extremist on either side, you can't help but be hypocritical. Look at the "Terrible Three" O'Reily, Hannity and Limbaugh. All three of them have been caught in some hypocritical situation. It appears as if Sahrah is a "One Trick Pony." So far all she's got is the same speech. It's just a matter of time, before her hypocrisy shows up.
Posted by Pisano70 at 09/11/2008 @ 2:00pm
Oh...and best of luck too, we'll need it.
Posted by Maskdelta at 09/11/2008 @ 1:39pm
hey thanks.
viceroy harper's already started in with the rovian style ads.
it's pathetic.
even more pathetic is that he may get a majority.
his party, like your republican'ts, are fiscal idiots.
look at this:
MONTREAL - Senior Conservative Party spokesman Ryan Sparrow has been suspended from the campaign after suggesting the father of a slain soldier who criticized Stephen Harper today was a Liberal.
<<<>>> that nonsense is happening everyday. democracy is great but we need to make voters pass some kind of competence test.
here's a bit of good news:
PUBLIC PRESSURE
Greens to be in debates
TIM KROCHAK FOR THE TORONTO STAR
Debate now has wildcard component
The decision to include Green party chieftain Elizabeth May in next month's televised leaders' debates adds a new level of unpredictability to this election campaign.
Public pressure forced Layton and Harper to okay the participation of party leader May.
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/11/2008 @ 2:07pm
It's just a matter of time, before her hypocrisy shows up.
Posted by Pisano70 at 09/11/2008 @ 2:00pm
yeah,
in 2009.
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/11/2008 @ 2:08pm
McCain/Palin can attract intelligent young voters by pointing out that they will offer more true freedom of opportunity than Obama offers.
Lower Taxes
More entrepreneurial opportunity by keeping business tax structures lower and non obtrusive
better opportunities for retirement investment (which most young people support according to polling).
More choices in health care
This would represent a new generation of intelligent young people like those who wisely respected Reagan and understood what his presidency gave them in opportunities beyond the tired old New Deal rhetoric of the Democrats.
Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/11/2008 @ 2:26pm
Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/11/2008 @ 2:26pm I suppose that could work if McCain stopped speaking in generalities and Palin would start speaking period. Does it bother anyone that she regurgitates the same speech?
You speak of lower taxes. Is McCain gonna lower taxes for people in the $30,000 - 100,000 range? I ask this because my taxes were not lowered in the last four years and most young people, coming out of college or otherwise fall into the above range( and I'm being generous regarding the $100,000). In fact I noticed I was paying more in taxes. No, I was not pleased but I wasn't surprised either.
Posted by k330k at 09/11/2008 @ 2:49pm
Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/11/2008 @ 2:26pm
Except if they can't finish their degrees because people like McCain VOTE AGAINST student financial aid, then all of these so-called "opportunities" are just a figment of their imagination, right?
Posted by Metteyya at 09/11/2008 @ 2:54pm
Even my usually right-leaning parents are going to be voting against the neo-cons!
It's nice to know that I've made even that difference!
Posted by madlib at 09/11/2008 @ 2:16pm
keep it up.
i've got about 10 proxy votes for obama in november.
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/11/2008 @ 2:56pm
Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/11/2008 @ 2:26pm
ah, the perfect example of FROSTWIN'S LAW:
The deeper an advocate of the "right" gets pushed into a hole by facts,
the greater the probability that the effigy of st. ronald will be thrust forth.
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/11/2008 @ 3:00pm
Posted by JOMAMMA at 09/11/2008 @ 2:41pm
burp!
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/11/2008 @ 3:02pm
More choices in health care
Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/11/2008 @ 2:26pm
Except of course, what they can do with their uteruses....right?
Posted by Maskdelta at 09/11/2008 @ 3:02pm
15% a year when inlation and cost increases of the rest of the country is alot less...may the schools themselves should do a little Cost Cutting...
Posted by JOMAMMA at 09/11/2008 @ 2:59pm
you believe the cpi stats.
sheesh.
go buy some rice or gasoline........
the only reason tupperware hasn't gone up 30% is because of your chinese slaves.
john, why exactly does inflation happen?
remember, you were wrong about where the money for your "stimulus" cheque came from.
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/11/2008 @ 3:05pm
Posted by JOMAMMA at 09/11/2008 @ 3:00pm
perhaps it is you who needs the schooling.
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/11/2008 @ 3:09pm
You speak of lower taxes. Is McCain gonna lower taxes for people in the $30,000 - 100,000 range? I ask this because my taxes were not lowered in the last four years and most young people, coming out of college or otherwise fall into the above range( and I'm being generous regarding the $100,000). In fact I noticed I was paying more in taxes. No, I was not pleased but I wasn't surprised either.
Posted by k330k at 09/11/2008 @ 2:49pm
While I don't know your specifics, with very few exceptions, all middle income famiiles received a decrease in their tax liability under the Bush Taxcuts.
http://tinyurl.com/32jota
Bush Tax Cuts Erased Income Tax Burden for 7.8 Million Families
by J. Scott Moody and Scott A. Hodge
A wave of political "tax fairness" rhetoric in recent months has swept aside reasonable assessments of the Bush tax cuts. Tax cut critics have argued that the cuts have only helped the wealthiest Americans. However, 7.8 million low and middle-income families had their entire income tax liabilities erased by the cuts.
The two provisions most responsible for removing these families from the tax rolls were the new 10 percent tax bracket and the doubling of the value of the child tax credit from $500 to $1,000.
Using the Tax Foundation's Individual Tax Model and Matched IRS/Census Database, Foundation economists were able to compile a demographic profile of the 7.8 million families knocked off the tax roles because of the Bush tax cuts. Their results show that these families are overwhelmingly modest-income, married couples with children who work full-time and are younger than age 45. When all of the dependents of these households are counted, roughly 25.5 million Americans were taken off the tax rolls by the Bush Taxcuts.
http://www.taxfound
Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/11/2008 @ 3:09pm
Except if they can't finish their degrees because people like McCain VOTE AGAINST student financial aid, then all of these so-called "opportunities" are just a figment of their imagination, right?
Posted by Metteyya at 09/11/2008 @ 2:54pm
That bill was terrible and should never be law. It required the govt to subsidize student loan interest rates from the current 6.8% down to 3.4%.
Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/11/2008 @ 3:13pm
>>>That bill was terrible and should never be law. It required the govt to subsidize student loan interest rates from the current 6.8% down to 3.4%.
Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/11/2008 @ 3:13pm<<<
And why is THAT "terrible"?
And why did only 18 senators (including McCain) vote against it if it were THAT terrible?
Posted by Metteyya at 09/11/2008 @ 3:20pm
>>>That bill was terrible and should never be law. It required the govt to subsidize student loan interest rates from the current 6.8% down to 3.4%.
Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/11/2008 @ 3:13pm<<<
And why is THAT "terrible"?
And why did only 18 senators (including McCain) vote against it if it were THAT terrible?
Posted by Metteyya at 09/11/2008 @ 3:20pm
but mostly these days I don't read much o your posts..
Posted by JOMAMMA at 09/11/2008 @ 3:19pm
it shows.
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/11/2008 @ 3:25pm
It required the govt to subsidize student loan interest rates from the current 6.8% down to 3.4%.
Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/11/2008 @ 3:13pm
yeah,
why would you want to educate?
off to war!
er, china, you got a few billion i could borrow?
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/11/2008 @ 3:27pm
Frosty,
You are an example of what I would not want my children to emulate...
••• yep. being nice and informed is shameful.
you are satisfied on an income of 1/2 poverty level in the US
••• as is 70% of the world.
and you are constanlty stuffing "FACTS" from cut a paste articles in faces of people who work and support the system they live in...
••• those "FACTS" are about the system you BORROW FOR.
I may bitch about the amount I pay in taxes and the way the govt works or doesn't work, but I put something INTO the systerm...
••• and take out much, much more.
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/11/2008 @ 3:29pm
More choices in health care
Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/11/2008 @ 2:26pm
Except of course, what they can do with their uteruses....right?
Posted by Maskdelta at 09/11/2008 @ 3:02pm
Nonsense. No one is messing with anyone's uterus.
Murdering children resident in a womb is a seperate issue. Also, federal funding for abortion is against the law.
Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/11/2008 @ 3:30pm
I know, I know, you work and play music..
••• you're right. the world needs more lawyers and prostitutes. i'm gonna do both.
and thats great..
••• you know, boors like you are the ones who ALWAYS try to talk down my price. guess they need new windshield wipers on the bmws
but the truth or should I say a FACT you should tell your son...
••• go on....
is that your fellow Canadians are carrying your load...
••• well, in a town with AT LEAST 10% unemployment, i'm carrying the load for others......
and that with little effort, your son can earn double your income and still be in poverty status....
••• you just don't get it, do you? MY SON ACTUALLY KNOWS ME.
unless you are teaching him that drive to do beter is a sin..
••• we do work on spelling.
you are dooming him to a life in a world he will watch go by..
••• oh, i think i see much more of this world than you do. while you are in your gilded cage hotel room, i go down on the street and have lunch with the people.
even workers in Asia are doing better than your economic status and this will not slow down..
••• wow, even the gooks....
FACT..if all Canadians live their lives of your model..the country would grind to a halt and your health care system would disappear, as would your country...
••• well, there would be a heckuva lot less to pay for, too. that's the part you don't get. i don't use the system. i don't need all those subsidies that make your life "better''.
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/11/2008 @ 3:37pm
That is a FACT you might want to consider as you cut and paste more for those who ARE carrying your load,
••• i use little. what do i need?
in your country or ours..or even in the "world community",
••• even...... you are the stereotypical crass, boorish american tourist the world dreads. enjoy your greed.
and how they are a problem, except on payday, of course.
••• what fuck does that mean?
..LOOK AT YOIUR SELF FIRST.
••• oh, i look at miyself all the time.
Posted by JOMAMMA at 09/11/2008 @ 3:12p
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/11/2008 @ 3:40pm
hey jm,
do one of those world impact tests.
if all 7 billion of us lived like i do,
we'd need 0.8 earths.
i'll guess that in your case we'd need an earth, jupiter and uranus, too.
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/11/2008 @ 3:43pm
Nonsense. No one is messing with anyone's uterus.----Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/11/2008 @ 3:30pm
So John McCain and Sarah Palin DON'T want to see Roe v. Wade overturned?!?!??!?
Posted by Maskdelta at 09/11/2008 @ 3:51pm
jm.
please explain how the federal reserve system "works".
you have no idea.
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/11/2008 @ 3:51pm
The media is jumping on the Obama ship as we speak, specially after Bill Clinton declared throwing his full support for Obama.
So lets heal the rift so the extremist rutweiler with listick becomes nothing but a blip on the screen.
Posted by nursevic at 09/11/2008 @ 3:55pm
So John McCain and Sarah Palin DON'T want to see Roe v. Wade overturned?!?!??!?
Posted by Maskdelta at 09/11/2008 @ 3:51pm
again, you conflate the uterus with the child.
abortion is not a health care issue. It is an issue about whether our society recognizes children in the womb or gives preference to the right of women with assistance to murder their children up to a certain point in time.
Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/11/2008 @ 4:13pm
You Republican extremists will be nothing but a thing of the past. PROGRESSIVES RULE!
Posted by nursevic at 09/11/2008 @ 4:16pm
You Republican extremists will be nothing but a thing of the past. PROGRESSIVES RULE!
Posted by nursevic at 09/11/2008 @ 4:17pm
Jomamma probably carries a roll of quarters for panhandlers in his travels, but prefaces each 25 cent bestowment with "Now you're not going to use this for...?
Posted by Sorelish at 09/11/2008 @ 4:31pm
Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/11/2008 @ 4:13pm
So doctors aren't part of "health care"?
And being able to see one to have an abortion wouldn't fall into "more freedom in health care?"
And you didn't answer my question...and we both know why?
Abortion IS a health care matter, since the providers of it are...oddly...in the health care field...doctors, nurses, etc.
And we both know that Palin (maybe not so much McCain really) wants to make abortion illegal?
So...under them, a woman would have LESS freedom in health care, not more.
Ergo, your statement is false.
Posted by Maskdelta at 09/11/2008 @ 4:49pm
Frost, can you explain why we should care about the election up north?
Posted by emile duBois at 09/11/2008 @ 5:26pm
"This would represent a new generation of intelligent young people like those who wisely respected Reagan and understood what his presidency gave them in opportunities beyond the tired old New Deal rhetoric of the Democrats."
Ah yes, the wonderful opportunities Reaganesque policies have given many a youth: join the military or starve; get an education and spend what was once the money earning years of your life paying it off; pay off the huge debt run up by Republican administrations...etc. Wow, what opportunity!
"It is an issue about whether our society recognizes children in the womb or gives preference to the right of women with assistance to murder their children up to a certain point in time."
Amazing people get so upset about this, but they are willing to vote for a candidate who probably murdered a slew of Vietnamese children.
Posted by onthehelm at 09/11/2008 @ 5:45pm
Posted by SoHAPPY at 09/11/2008 @ 4:20pm
Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life
66% - Abortion Middle Ground
While the legalization of abortion continues to divide the country, there is consensus in one key area: Two out of three Americans (66%) support finding "a middle ground" when it comes to abortion, according to a survey by the Pew Forum on Religion & Pulbic Life.
By contrast, only three-in-ten (29%) believe "there's no room for compromise when it comes to abortion laws." This desire to find common ground extends broadly across the political and ideological spectrum. Majorities of Republicans (62%), Democrats (70%) and political independents (66%) favor a compromise.
More than six-in-ten white evangelicals also support compromise, as do 62% of white, non-Hispanic Catholics. Only one group expresses unwillingness to find a middle way: Two-thirds (66%) of those who support an outright ban on abortion say there should be no compromise.
Posted by Maskdelta at 09/11/2008 @ 6:45pm
Young people tend to be liberal. Older people tend to be conservative. Sure there are exceptions. Some peole are wise beyond their years and others never really grow up.
Who here doesn't think Obama doesn't have the youth vote wrapped up? I know he's very hip and popular amonst the 8th graders I've chatted with in my daughter's class.
But wait, that doesn't really help him, does it?
Posted by freiheit1 at 09/11/2008 @ 7:02pm
redriver-The terrorists are ultra conservative religious fanatics.Conservative does not equal intelligence.In fact,many conservatives are not at all bright, as is obvious from the real world and the same is true of many liberals.Intelligence has nothing to do with political views, as is obvious from the real world, and love of country has nothing to do with political,as is obvious from the real world.Of course,you are better off living your fantasy world where you can make yourself feel better by thinking that the world revolves around you and where you are the standard by which all things are determined.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/11/2008 @ 7:14pm
redriver-The terrorists are ultra conservative religious fanatics.Conservative does not equal intelligence.In fact,many conservatives are not at all bright, as is obvious from the real world and the same is true of many liberals.Intelligence has nothing to do with political views, as is obvious from the real world, and love of country has nothing to do with political,as is obvious from the real world.Of course,you are better off living your fantasy world where you can make yourself feel better by thinking that the world revolves around you and where you are the standard by which all things are determined.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/11/2008 @ 7:14pm
You become more of a kook poster all the time. "Many conservatives are not bright at all"? Care to cite a study that backs up such a stupid statement?
Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/11/2008 @ 7:21pm
Isn't interesting how the left, which on the pages of the Nation often opine how stupid, uninformed and idiotic the electorate is, constantly cite POLLS to prop up their policies?
Posted by freiheit1 at 09/11/2008 @ 7:21pm
Oh, goodie....
McCain just nominated General Jack D. Ripper of Burpelson AFB (in a skirt and horn-rim glasses of course) as his Veep!
FORT WAINWRIGHT, Alaska (AP) - Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin left open the option Thursday of waging war with Russia if it were to invade neighboring Georgia and the former Soviet republic were a NATO ally. "We will not repeat a Cold War," Palin said in her first television interview since becoming Republican John McCain's vice presidential running mate two weeks ago.
Posted by Maskdelta at 09/11/2008 @ 7:29pm
lvliberty-I don't need a study and the fact that you do need a study proves that the statement is correct..I'm talking about the real world which is why I said the real world.A study can't tell you everything about a person or a group of people ,but what they do in the real world can, something that you should have been able to figure out for yourself..I've known many conservatives, personally, who were not at all bright and you calling me a kook is a compliment.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/11/2008 @ 7:29pm
lvliberty-A study about NFL football players would show that are college educated,but have you ever heard some of them talk or look at what they do?Studies and reality can be quite different.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/11/2008 @ 7:43pm
lvliberty-My view of intelligence was non partisan and yours and redrivers view was not only partisan nonsense,but was,also,egotistical nonsense where you were calling yourselves intelligent by virtue of being conservatives.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/11/2008 @ 7:55pm
Re war with big Russia over small Georgia ...
in her chat with Charlie, Palin says the US must be vigilant whenever a large country invades a smaller country …
… say, smaller countries like Vietnam, Dominican Republic, Grenada, Panama, Iraq, Afghanistan …
… just to mention a few recent examples.
Posted by sloper at 09/11/2008 @ 8:12pm
Will Gibson ask the follow-up tomorrow night?
"Governor, what would 'going to war with Russia' likely lead to?"
Posted by Maskdelta at 09/11/2008 @ 8:17pm
"No group (other than the African-American community) is as reliably pro-Obama as-- the youth vote-- no, as
people in 22 countries where ABC, NBC-LOCKHEED, FOX, CLEAR CHANNEL have yet to corrupt the media-
where there's still some grip on reality.
An opinion poll released Wednesday by the BBC World Service suggests people in 22 countries would prefer Obama as president by a margin of 4 to 1 over Republican rival John McCain.
Posted by winyahn at 09/11/2008 @ 8:42pm
Ho CHI MIN ? Posted by JOMAMMA at 09/11/2008 @ 8:00pm | ignore this person | warn this person
the father of his country. our ally against the Japanese, screwed by the US, united his country. by force. the way Washington and Lincoln did it.
Posted by emile duBois at 09/11/2008 @ 8:52pm
Palin? invade Russia? with what army? the woman is a nutcase
Posted by emile duBois at 09/11/2008 @ 9:18pm
Frost, can you explain why we should care about the election up north?
Posted by emile duBois at 09/11/2008 @ 5:26pm
canada is the u.s.'s largest trading partner
and
it's largest supplier of oil, by far.
i though you'd know that, professor.
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/11/2008 @ 9:47pm
plus, we're funnier.
and people actually like us :=]
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/11/2008 @ 9:54pm
You become more of a kook poster all the time. "Many conservatives are not bright at all"? Care to cite a study that backs up such a stupid statement?
Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/11/2008 @ 7:21pm
it's called the iraq war.
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/11/2008 @ 9:58pm
"Governor, what would 'going to war with Russia' likely lead to?"
Posted by Maskdelta at 09/11/2008 @ 8:17pm
expensive vodka and a slew of really lame movies.....
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/11/2008 @ 10:01pm
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/11/2008 @ 10:01pm
Perhaps she's thinking it would be Patrick Swayze, Charlie Sheen, Jennifer Grey, and Lea Thompson...and everybody yelling "Wolverines!!!!"?
She IS of that era of gung-ho "Let's fight the Commies" flicks?
Or maybe she's hoping Sylvester Stallone and Dolph Lungren can get a re-match???
Posted by Maskdelta at 09/11/2008 @ 10:10pm
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/11/2008 @ 9:47pm | ignore this person | warn this person
a snide answer I was not looking for
Posted by emile duBois at 09/11/2008 @ 10:43pm
excusez moi, monseigneur!
i thought you'd laugh.
nonetheless, it's true. you need us as much as we need you.
what really gets me is that viceroy harper has taken it upon himself to turn canada into the newest state of jesusistan,
complete with amurkin style "political" ads.
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/11/2008 @ 10:56pm
Or maybe she's hoping Sylvester Stallone and Dolph Lungren can get a re-match???
Posted by Maskdelta at 09/11/2008 @ 10:10pm
she seems like the kind of woman who runs over squirrels for fun.
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/11/2008 @ 10:58pm
frosty leaving? damn just when I put him on ignore.
Posted by emile duBois at 09/12/2008 @ 10:05am
I think that we are going to experience a generational shift this year. The registrations are fundamental and when I look at video of the rallies we do see a significant amount of the young. Plus we are getting a by pass from the traditional media to on line types like this one. Problem with on-line, we all end up talking to the choir. Election polling is also being skewed. When I go to church with the "life begins at conception", crowd all I see is a sea of purple hair and bald heads. Here is a thought, how about we help the kids learn their way around a polling booth instead of intentionally making it a place to fear? I think if we make voting a friendly rather than a threatening experience we will, in fact, get the kids to vote. God, we send them to war with a rifle and ask them to decide to kill people we should be able to introduce them to a polling booth. How about a a high school course and a day off to vote, a voter holiday.
Posted by lachatte at 09/14/2008 @ 09:52am
I like my idea so much that I want to repeat it. "HOW ABOUT AN AMERICAN VOTER HOLIDAY?" How about inviting pre voter age kids to work the polls in some capacity?"
Posted by lachatte at 09/14/2008 @ 4:00pm