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RedditDemocratic presidential nominee Barack Obama appears Sunday morning on ABC's "This Week.
Democratic vice presidential nominee Joe Biden appears on NBC's "Meet the Press."
Republican presidential nominee John McCain appears on CBS' "Face the Nation."
And Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin appears to be in hiding.
Though she is surely newsworthy -- her face is on the covers of the new editions of People, US Weekly, OK! and Time -- Palin's people have turned down all invites as part of a broad initiative to isolate the Alaskan governor from the sort of scrutiny that national candidates typically face.
Apparently, the Republicans who just nominated Palin for the vice presidency do not believe their newly-minted candidate is quite ready for prime-time.
A question then: If Sarah Palin is not skilled enough, experienced enough or tough enough to face a few questions from America's hyper-cautious and complacent media on a Sunday morning, what is it exactly that makes the Republicans think she has what it takes to assume the presidency at a moment's notice?
Happy-You do come up with some funny stuff.Of course,you know that Fox,like MSNBC, is, hardly,fair and balanced and you know that your candidate is hiding because she doesn't know anything beyond Alaska which makes your mindless support of this unknown even more insane
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/06/2008 @ 11:07pm
Happy-Yes,Happy.Fox news is fair and balanced just like Olberman is fair and balanced and no one is whining.Just pointing out that you guys became instantly energized by an unknown person who,now,has to be taught that there is a world outside of Alaska.Tell us,again how she is experienced enough to run a world power?You may now mention Obama rather than answer the question.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/06/2008 @ 11:15pm
Happy-You don't have a powerful and magical weapon.You have someone who is hiding because they can't answer questions on any subject that does not pertain to Alaska,but you knew that and are making things up in order to make it seem that you guys aren't as mindless as you are.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/06/2008 @ 11:18pm
oh, palin's ready for prime time.
she'd be great on king of the hill.
"Now, Peggy, I tell ya' John Sidney Mccain made a great choice fur America when he picked Sarah Pālin as his running mate.
I mean, do you expect such a great american to pick charcoal when he can choose sweat, glorious propane?"
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/06/2008 @ 11:27pm
sweat, glorious alaskan propane?"
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/06/2008 @ 11:28pm
Once again, class...
..."Fair and balanced" is not the same thing as "truthful".
Fox won a whistleblower lawsuit in Florida on appeal by basically asserting its right to LIE. Google "Fox Florida BGH whistleblower lawsuit", and read what "fair and balanced" is really worth.
Posted by drhammer at 09/06/2008 @ 11:38pm
The feisty, mooseburger-eating, great white hunter Sarah Barracuda has to be protected from the nearly nutless media.
That's fucking priceless.
Posted by drhammer at 09/06/2008 @ 11:44pm
"The Obama Campaign gets caught flat-footed by posting a fraudulent list of books that Gov. Palin sought to ban when the truth was she made inquiries as to possibly banning books."
One of the drawbacks of blogging is that you can't see someone say this kind of thing with a straight face...
Posted by drhammer at 09/06/2008 @ 11:50pm
"If Sarah destroyes Biden at the debate as I think she probably will, and McCain shows his Presidential stature against the community organizer then I think the repubs are going to be very happy on election day."
If a frog had wings, he wouldn't bump his ass on the ground all the time.
Posted by drhammer at 09/07/2008 @ 12:00am
FrankNoGrits-Actually,you are just having a tantrum because Hillary lost.You don't know enough about Sarah to be saying the ludicrous things that you say about Sarah nor do you believe that they will change things.You figure that McCain/Palin will fail and that will lead to an easy Hillary victory in 2012.The shoe isn't on the other foot as far as Sarah hiding from the entire press corp.As you know,she is hiding because she knows so little.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/07/2008 @ 12:01am
Posted by frankgrits at 09/06/2008 @ 11:52pm
You mean Palin's gone to a madrassa.
She not in the witness protection program ... she's in the witless protection program.
Frank, wake up ... she's stooge and a loon. Man, I know you're brighter than this (or at least you used to be)
ps: how's the kids?
Posted by leftofcenter at 09/07/2008 @ 12:02am
jomamma- Once they prep her enough and tell her what she believes in then she might do okay in front of the press as long as she isn't asked too difficult of a question.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/07/2008 @ 12:02am
"Where have all the journalists gone?"
Most are looking for Governor Palin.
"I wish both sides would grow the fuck up and start discussing the issues."
Damn straight. Credible journalists are supposed to ask questions about the issues.
And credible candidates are supposed to answer them.
Posted by drhammer at 09/07/2008 @ 12:04am
Palin has admitted in recent interviews,before she knew she would be the VP pick,that she knew very little about anything outside of Alaska.She could not even comment on the surge because she wasn't sure what it was or what it's purpose was.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/07/2008 @ 12:08am
jomamma-The right was caught with it's pants down with pick,too and were scrambling to find out who she was.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/07/2008 @ 12:09am
Obama blew off Fox News because of the sleazy (and frequently counter-factual) way they have reported on him. I can recall no other media outlet to which he refused to make himself available. (And, of course, he just did an interview with O'Reilly.)
Governor Palin, on the other hand, is being hidden from the media almost entirely, although some here seem to think that she will eventually agree to be interviewed by Fox.
I'm open to hearing why these two scenarios should be compared.
Posted by drhammer at 09/07/2008 @ 12:12am
drhammer-They know that Palin can't hold up under tough questioning so they want her on Fox so she can be asked soft questions by people who support her.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/07/2008 @ 12:14am
FrankNoGrits-As you know,the MSM isn't lefty and,as you know,they are hiding her because she can't answer tough questions and must be taught what to say.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/07/2008 @ 12:18am
FrankNoGrits-Sarah is in for a rude awakening.The national stage isn't Alaska where politics is small town.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/07/2008 @ 12:19am
FrankNoGrits-Yep.She can only be on Fox answering soft questions.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/07/2008 @ 12:20am
FrankNoGrits-Good thing you weren't in combat.You'd have a tantrum and switch to the other side.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/07/2008 @ 12:22am
"I think that the republican strategy right now is to continue to let the lefty MSM hang themselves and then release Sarah on them like a hungry pit bull on it's prey."
Jeez, Frank, are you going to act like you're attending your first prom every time there's a female candidate?
No need to answer - I know you're probably busy dealing with the unintended consequences of using the words "Sarah" and "boning" in the same sentence...
Posted by drhammer at 09/07/2008 @ 12:25am
Happy-Palin has a degree in journalism and was a journalist.You know,the degree and job that you make fun of.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/07/2008 @ 12:26am
"Palin will be doing an interview with Greta on Fox news Monday night. If you want to hear what she has to say, you'll have to tune in the that station."
Guess you missed my 11:38 post...
Posted by drhammer at 09/07/2008 @ 12:27am
All ideologies to the side... let's be fair.
McCain's in this to win, which means that he's still considering what kind of nails to buy for the new Republican platform that he's building... from scratch.
He just picked Palin last week... who's... very experienced provincially... a lightening rod for the base... new to the ticket... smart... a great speaker...
...and... she arrives at America's 'national scene' door with an assortment of 'checkout' baggage that seems mismatched somehow... a working knowledge of world affairs that seems 'sketchy' at best... no previous experience with McCain... and is more than willing to slander her opponents in front of millions of viewers...
...but most of all... she needs to be thoroughly briefed.
Why so impatient? Are you scared?;^p
Posted by ttr at 09/07/2008 @ 12:59am
GRAMPA AND MRS. MOOSEBURGER
in this episode of the heartwarming, hilarious new smash hit fox sitcom...mrs. mooseburger goes over the mountain to visit crazy old skirt chasing grampa and gets locked in the outhouse for two weeks!
will anyone find her to ask some tough questions? will grampa ever let her out?
TUNE IN AND FIND OUT!!!
Posted by dexter666 at 09/07/2008 @ 01:11am
Look for Palin to break with orthodoxy in the Biden debate by showing up in camo & after drawing back a curtain on the stage, begin to field dress a moose as the moderator poses questions. If tried with a particularly tough one, she can stoop to her task & feign preoccupation, knife flashing in the studio glare,the chuck piling up, making everyone else look like do-nothing suited desk jockies. The word will get around to "stay away from 'ol Sarah when she's workin', the pundits will declare her the winner "on substance". Some will say she got down to the '''red meat" of the questioning & with the scent of Alaskan spruce BBQ smoke in the air, all that's needed will be the mirrors.
Posted by Sorelish at 09/07/2008 @ 01:15am
She needs to be on "Meet the Press" the week after she is picked?
She will be bombarded with the "experience" questions. Obama will not.
She will probably get ambushed, like Bush in 2000, asked to name the rulers of a few obscure third world s--t holes. Obama, of course, will not.
She will be asked why she is abandoning her kids in their time of need. A question that is never asked of a male candidate.
So, I'm willing to give her a few weeks to get up to speed on national issues.
Posted by twillie at 09/07/2008 @ 01:18am
Posted by Sorelish at 09/07/2008 @ 01:15am | ignore this person | warn this person
in a camo bikini...soaked with moose blood...
Posted by dexter666 at 09/07/2008 @ 01:20am
Posted by dexter666 at 09/07/2008 @ 01:20am Oh yeah.
Posted by Sorelish at 09/07/2008 @ 01:23am
Posted by Sorelish at 09/07/2008 @ 01:15am...
Now THAT'S what I call 'substance abuse'...;^)
Posted by ttr at 09/07/2008 @ 01:25am
JM
"Palin got more votes in (Wasilla) AK than Joe got in the primary"
patently false .... Biden got more vote in Iowa alone than moose-momma did in Wasilla
"Former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee got a big laugh from the crowd at tonight's convention when he said that as mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, GOP vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin outpolled her Democratic counterpart, Joseph Biden.
"She got more votes running for mayor of the town of Alaska than Joe Biden got running for president of the United States," Huckabee declared, sparking applause.
There's just one problem with Huckabee's statement: it's not true. Biden collected a total of 63,157 votes during the Democratic primaries and caucuses this year. By contrast, Wasilla boasts a population of 9,780."
Posted by leftofcenter at 09/07/2008 @ 01:44am
By contrast, Wasilla boasts a population of 9,780."
Posted by leftofcenter at 09/07/2008 @ 01:44am | ignore this person | warn this person
you don't think a good repugnant cant squeeze 54,000 more votes out of a town of 9,780?
i don't know...
Posted by dexter666 at 09/07/2008 @ 02:08am
VOTE HARD, DIE BOLD!
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/07/2008 @ 02:17am
C'mon, folks, give the gal a break.
It took the divine Sarah 6 years & 5 colleges to get one bachelor's degree in communications.
Communications.
After all that long hard study, you don't expect her to start communicating with the press right off the bat, do you?
That's unreasonable.
Besides, she needs all the time she can get (especially in view of those 6 years earning a single degree), to get herself up to speed for her debate with Biden, what with all her photo ops, autograph signings, parental duties, legal investigations.
And now less than 4 weeks to debate time.
Posted by sloper at 09/07/2008 @ 02:20am
"There was a lot of flack from the black posters here calling me a racist for pointing out Obama's base"
Actually you were called a racist because: you referred to a 46 year-old black man as a "boy", you told a racist robot joke, you actually referred to Obama as "shuffling" somewhere, etc.
"I warned everyone who could pay attention that John McCain would be a formidable opponent and that Hillary was the only one who could beat him, maimly because of the female vote."
And you were wrong then. Clinton had no advantage over Obama against McCain in the head-to-head polls that came out at the time.
"So, I'm willing to give her a few weeks to get up to speed on national issues.
Posted by twillie at 09/07/2008 @ 01:18am | ignore this person | warn this person
And also to get up to speed on what a Vice-President actually does.
Posted by brunowe at 09/07/2008 @ 02:21am
VOTE HARD, DIE BOLD!
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/07/2008 @ 02:17am
That is both the funniest and saddest thing I've read all day.
Posted by Malcontent at 09/07/2008 @ 02:53am
Happy and the Republican's are desperate and scared. That's why you see an even larger amount of blatant hypocrisy coming from their side of the aisle.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 09/07/2008 @ 03:04am
please stop talking about sarah palin.
don't chase the wild goose.
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/07/2008 @ 03:04am
She will probably get ambushed, like Bush in 2000, asked to name the rulers of a few obscure third world s--t holes. Obama, of course, will not.
Posted by twillie at 09/07/2008
Yeah, that was before anyone had any real idea of how stupid W really is. To think, they actually tried to ambush him with trick questions. That's like having CC Sabathia pitch against my 6 yr old nephew's tee ball team.
Posted by koroviev at 09/07/2008 @ 04:09am
Why was she trying to ban any books? Is she afraid of free speech?
Posted by mrsanfran at 09/07/2008 @ 04:28am
Still the question...
Why is Palin or the GOP so scared for her to TALK?!?!?!??
Posted by Maskdelta at 09/07/2008 @ 08:14am
Pontificus al-Tikriti, spokesman for Hubris Motors, sponsor of this months FOX interview with Sarah (my family values are off limits) Palin has released the list of hard hitting questions that will be asked of her;
1: What is it about George Bush that you love the most?
2: What part of the Iraq war has been the most successful?
3: When would you open ANWR to drilling?
4: What do you put on your mooseburger?
5: What do you use to cut the windpipe out of a moose?
6: What Bush tax cuts would you keep in place? (don't worry about why, just which ones)
7: Who is the current president of the United States?
8: Moving to international affairs, where is Great Britain?
9: Talk to us a little about the successes of abstinence only education?
(What? Can't ask her about that? OK, Sarah, my apologies, I guess the lefty that runs FOX does not want to hear about the success of abstinence only education and the benefits to our young daughters)
10: Why do you think asking US citizens to save energy will kill our economy?
11: When you heard about Saddam Husseins wmd programs being dismantled by George Bush, were you convinced the link between Al Qaida and Saddam had been severed, and how proud are you of George Bush's accomplishment in removing the threat of 20,000 liters of Anthrax from the hands of Ubama bin Laden....oops, did I say Ubama...of course I meant Usama. Sorry.
12: Talk to us about the stress of commanding the AK NAtional Guard and how you handled it while fighting off the lobbyists for the Road to nowhere.
Posted by crabwalk at 09/07/2008 @ 09:04am
Why is Palin or the GOP so scared for her to TALK?!?!?!?? Posted by Maskdelta at 09/07/2008 @ 08:14am
1: The MSM is MEAN!! They will be mean to the pitbull. Why expose such a tough broad to the no-doubt tough questions the MSM is capable of asking?
2: Jeff Gannon is still waiting for his press credentials, until he gets them he cannot be her spokesman.
3: She knows jack shit about anything related to the job of Vice President
Posted by crabwalk at 09/07/2008 @ 09:07am
Thanks BAL... good tip...
"August 18, 2000, a Florida state court jury unanimously determined that Fox "acted intentionally and deliberately to falsify or distort the plaintiffs' news reporting on BGH."
but, thanks to.... activist judges.... this was overturned, and FOX gets the nod to spread as many lies as they wish.
Posted by crabwalk at 09/07/2008 @ 09:11am
"Republican Vice President candidate Sarah Palin speaks out about the day she learned her young son had Down syndrome in this week's issue of People Magazine."
But, her family is "off limits"!!
ISn't "People Magazine" a celebrity gossip tabloid?
Like Vogue...
"Sarah Palin, future (Vice) President of the United States, on the cover of Vogue Magazine."
http://www.popcrunch.com/
sarah-palin-in-vogue-magazine/
And here she is with a witty, classy T-shirt, showing she has the chops to handle Kim Jong Il..
"This t-shirt from Sarah Palin flaunts her chest saying "I May Be Broke, But I'm Not Flat Busted""
http://www.popcrunch.com/
sarah-palin-may-be-broke-
but-shes-not-flat-busted-or-chested/
Just what we need...
two more boobs in the WH.
Posted by crabwalk at 09/07/2008 @ 09:34am
Posted by koroviev at 09/07/2008 @ 04:09am
Trick question for Obama? All they need do is ask him how many states there are. He thinks there's 57. Of course this includes the states of denial, paranoia, etc.
Posted by pontificus at 09/07/2008 @ 09:37am
"PopCrunch is collecting as many Sarah Palin pictures in one place as we can find. Stay tuned as this photo gallery gets bigger and bigger with more and more pics of the VP candidate who has become an overnight celebrity."
C...E...L..E...B...R...I...T....Y
CELEBRITY
Those are bad, we learned that 3 months ago from John, The Hero, McCain. The last thing this country needs is a celebrity with little experience . That was his message 3 months ago!!
(Not to be confused with celibate, or abstinence, which is what all teens should not only practice, but do, under the new Plan from the WH Office on teen education. The efficacy of this program is unquestionable.)
Posted by crabwalk at 09/07/2008 @ 09:43am
Here ya go Ponti...
http://www.popcrunch.com/wp-content/
uploads/2008/09/sarah-palin-vogue.jpg
Do you think this will scare Achminijaed and Chavez?
(hee hee, you writing of denial and paranoia is like listening to McCain talk about experience and celebrity candidates! hehehehe)
Posted by crabwalk at 09/07/2008 @ 09:46am
"Sarah! Supermodel tour-de-force"
Buwhahahahaaaa
I KNOW Kim Jong Il will have this posted over his bed. Rumor has it he has the BEST porn collection in the world.
That must be McCains Master Plan. Woo Kim with breasts, flowing hair and lipstick.
Will Sarah be G. Gordon (felon) Liddys next Stacked and Packed star?
http://www.popcrunch.com/wp-content/
uploads/2008/09/palin-with-gun.jpg
---
The Real Thing, AKA, Family Values...
http://www.moviebadgirls.com/
liddy2_page1.html
Posted by crabwalk at 09/07/2008 @ 09:52am
Why was she trying to ban any books? Is she afraid of free speech? Posted by mrsanfran at 09/07/2008 @ 04:28am
Bristol read Harry Potter.... then she got pregnant.
Coincidence?
I think not.
Posted by crabwalk at 09/07/2008 @ 09:55am
Sarah Palin meets Vladimir Putin and his "good soul"
http://www.moviebadgirls.com/liddyimage2/1998_09.jpg
(courtesy G. Gordon Liddy)
Posted by crabwalk at 09/07/2008 @ 10:00am
don't chase the wild goose.
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/07/2008 @ 03:04am
Wouldn't that be "wild moose"?
Dexter .... yeah, I mean the repugs wouldn't want to discriminate against voters just because they're dead
Posted by leftofcenter at 09/07/2008 @ 10:31am
the REAL star:
http://www.umich.edu/~lowbrows/guide/cancer.jpg
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/07/2008 @ 10:31am
McCain and Saint Sarah sound like George Bush on steroids.
Posted by lachatte at 09/07/2008 @ 10:34am
http://tinyurl.com/5t7876
Posted by hsuBfools at 09/07/2008 @ 11:03am
Zogby has McCain/Palin up by 4 this morning!
Let the fear and loathing begin!
Posted by pontificus at 09/07/2008 @ 11:15am
Hey guys, how about a few choruses of 'God Damn America' to cheer everybody up?
Posted by pontificus at 09/07/2008 @ 11:16am
Ponti-Do you know why you are obsessed with writing G-d America.You can' stop doing it.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/07/2008 @ 11:25am
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/07/2008 @ 11:25am
You know, IM, America doesn't like haters. You guys should learn from that.
Posted by pontificus at 09/07/2008 @ 11:28am
Ponti-We should all be quite scared over the polls because they went up because of a person few heard of and that none know much about.That has never happened in US history and shows what mindless drones so many Americans have become.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/07/2008 @ 11:29am
Hey guys, how about a few choruses of 'God Damn America' to cheer everybody up?
Posted by pontificus at 09/07/2008 @ 11:16am | ignore this person | warn this person
hows that go ponty? sing us a few bars and i'm sure i'll remember the tune...
how bout you sing a few bars of "god damn all non rightwing fundyvangelsits" or "the world is flat and 6000 years old" or "i'd rather my daughter got genital warts and preggers than have sex before marriage even once" or "you libruls are all treasonous traitors because you opposed our mushmouthed leadeer's iraq policy"...
oh those lovable ballads of the right! GATHER ROUND THE CAMPFIRE, KIDS. GRAMPA AND MRS MOOSEBURGER WILL LEAD THE SING-ALONG AND ITS MOOSEBURGERS FOR EVERYONE!!!
Posted by dexter666 at 09/07/2008 @ 11:29am
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/07/2008 @ 11:29am
"That has never happened in US history and shows what mindless drones so many Americans have become."
Doing good on the loathing. How about some fear?
Posted by pontificus at 09/07/2008 @ 11:30am
Ponti-There are tons of haters in America.Get into reality.And don't forget to write G-d America,again since we know how much you love doing that.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/07/2008 @ 11:31am
Ponti-Did not write anything that showed loathing,but I'm not surprised that you would arrive at that conclusion.You don't know the difference between a terrorist group(KKK) and one that isn't.What I expressed was legitimate fear because of you mindless people who glob onto someone you've never heard of.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/07/2008 @ 11:36am
Posted by dexter666 at 09/07/2008 @ 11:29am
The difference being, of course, that the songs you cite as counterpoint to 'God Damn America' are imaginary, while Rev. Wright's 'God Damn America' is all too real. But then again, some people have difficulty distinquishing between the real and the imaginary.
Posted by pontificus at 09/07/2008 @ 11:56am
America doesn't like haters. You guys should learn from that.
Posted by pontificus at 09/07/2008 @ 11:28am
Funny that various sub-factions on the right hate gays, various races, the non-religious, different religions (i.e.: muslims), the left, etc. etc.
So I guess what you MEANT to say was America doesn't like haters who don't hate like us ("us" as in the misguided perspective that the right is mainstream.)
Posted by leftofcenter at 09/07/2008 @ 11:57am
Hey guys, how about a few choruses of 'God Damn America' to cheer everybody up?----Posted by pontificus at 09/07/2008 @ 11:16am
Sorry...we don't belong to Larry Kroon's church.
Know anybody that does?
Posted by Maskdelta at 09/07/2008 @ 12:03pm
The difference being, of course, that the songs you cite as counterpoint to 'God Damn America' are imaginary, while Rev. Wright's 'God Damn America' is all too real. But then again, some people have difficulty distinquishing between the real and the imaginary.
Posted by pontificus at 09/07/2008 @ 11:56am | ignore this person | warn this person
oh no ponty. sarah palin is a long time member of a church, a major and inextricable aspect of who's theology include...
1. enthusiastic, belief in and specific hope for the destruction and damnation of all us non christofascist heathens who dont share their angry, anachronistic, bassackwards set of cultish beliefs...
2. belief in a creation myth that denies most of the findings of modern science as expounded for the last century and a half - AND wants such religion specific myths taught in all our public schools...
3. is opposed to anything other than abstinance only sex ed in our public schools and opposed to the genital warts vaccine (ie would rather their own daughters get genital warts and possibly cervical cancer than admit to a little reality)...
sara palins entire religious orientation is hate filled, anti-science, regressive, exclusionary, cultish, disrespectful of anybody elses beliefs, and consistantly attempts to insinuate itself into government in order to use such to coercively proselytize their dangerous, backwards cultish beliefs on everybody else...
Posted by dexter666 at 09/07/2008 @ 12:10pm
Ponti-You got to write your favorite saying-G-d America twice in one post, this time.Of course,all you want to post is G-d America and the rest is just filler.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/07/2008 @ 12:13pm
'God Damn America' is all too real. But then again, some people have difficulty distinquishing between the real and the imaginary.
Posted by pontificus at 09/07/2008 @ 11:56am
And that's because new con repub dic'tator lovers praise racism and racist-- as they can't tell the dif between condemning those opposed to racism and racist and praising themselves for being racists...
You go PoCu!
Posted by hsuBfools at 09/07/2008 @ 12:16pm
Ponti-You claim that the war in Iraq is over and we won.You need to go and tell the families of the troops that recently died in Iraq that their kids aren't dead because the war is over and we won.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/07/2008 @ 12:19pm
America doesn't like haters. You guys should learn from that.
Posted by pontificus at 09/07/2008 @ 11:28am
not sure if i can agree with that. almost half of america, perhaps, but again we come to the difference between what people want to believe and what is.
in 2003 i remember walking through a local mall and seeing rightwing screeds prominantly displayed in bookstores calling me a treasonous traitor because...
I WAS CORRECT ABOUT MY DEEP RESERVATIONS CONCERNING OUR IRAQ POLICY as well as whatever other set of beliefs that conflicted with the christofascist/satano-aynrando coup that had taken over my country...
hate? didn't start here. i'm just reacting to the hate of others and am disgusted with the stupidity of the worst haters of the right and their bassackwards legions of braindead marching morons.
you see...when people threaten me, wish violence on me, and have some power...
i recognize such and fight back - and being nice to evil is only acceptable when doing so buys one enough time to
a) prepare one's own defence in order to secure one's self so that on can...
b) work for the destruction/neutralization of those who threaten one...
simple, really...
Posted by dexter666 at 09/07/2008 @ 12:20pm
How about some fear?
Posted by pontificus at 09/07/2008 @ 11:30am
TERROR ALERT RAISED TO PLUM!!!
ISLAMOPENGUIN PLOT FOILED!!!
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/07/2008 @ 12:29pm
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/07/2008 @ 12:29pm
Yep, 9/11 was just a figment of our imagination, right FROSTY?
Hmmm...real things thought to be imaginary, imaginary things thought to be real...is this Alice's Wonderland?
Posted by pontificus at 09/07/2008 @ 12:31pm
once again,
for all the poll dancers, this is the ultimate site:
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/07/2008 @ 12:32pm
Posted by pontificus at 09/07/2008 @ 12:31pm
ponti,
why did 9/11 happen?
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/07/2008 @ 12:32pm
The McCain/Jefferson Davis ticket is going to be rather interesting because Jefferson Davis has become bigger than McCain and one wonders how he is going to react to that.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/07/2008 @ 12:33pm
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/07/2008 @ 12:19pm
"Ponti-You claim that the war in Iraq is over and we won.You need to go and tell the families of the troops that recently died in Iraq that their kids aren't dead because the war is over and we won."
Yes, for those whose husbands, sons, and daughters were killed, the war will never be over. That's a valid point. But soldiers are killed in every war. That's why they call it war. This is not to diminish the sacrifice of those who gave their lives to defend this country, they're better than the whole lot of people on the left.
Posted by pontificus at 09/07/2008 @ 12:34pm
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/07/2008 @ 12:32pm
"why did 9/11 happen?"
Oh, so you do agree that it did happen, and, presumably, that one might fear that it could happen again. Good. Very good! We're making progress.
Now, I presume the answer to your question is, that the reason why we were attacked is because America does not apologize enough to the rest of the world for its existence. Is this where we're going?
Posted by pontificus at 09/07/2008 @ 12:37pm
and ponti,
god won't damn america.
only america can damn america.
excessive consumption,
greed,
the exaltation of ignorance,
apathy,
arrogance.
america's a great place with great people, better than many on earth,
yet something seems to have gone awry.....
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/07/2008 @ 12:37pm
Ponti-I'm referring to the ones that have been killed since you declared the war to be over.I thought that was obvious when I wrote recent deaths.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/07/2008 @ 12:37pm
no,
i just want to hear your reasons as to why it happened.
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/07/2008 @ 12:37pm
Posted by pontificus at 09/07/2008 @ 12:31pm | ignore this person | warn this person
here is where you and i come close to anagreement, PONTY. i firmly disagree with many of my honorable progressive lefty co partisans.
i think they do minimize the threat of islamo-fascism in reaction to the foolish, incompetant, and cynical use of such a threat by the worst of the rightwing.
their impetus toward fairness and toleration, laudable as it is and exacerbated by opposition to your christofascist, satano-aynrando heros, leads them to fail to realize the true intentions of a large segment of the true believing islamic world toward the kufar heathen modern post enlightenment world.
my problem with the past 8 years of rightwing response to this very real threat revolves around the following...
1. many who oppose islamo-fascism are indeed christo-fascists...
2. the fight agaisnt islamic extremism has been incompetantly and wrong headedly prosecuted and has thereby done more harm than good, and
3. the same fight has been used as a weapon against domestic ideological political opponants (like librool demoncrats and all non rightwingers) in a domestic culture war that threatens our democratic, pluralistic, enlightenment society as much as violent islamofascist fantasies of world caliphate and forced conversion of us kufar infidels...
Posted by dexter666 at 09/07/2008 @ 12:41pm
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/07/2008 @ 12:37pm
"god won't damn america.only america can damn america.excessive consumption,greed,the exaltation of ignorance,apathy,arrogance.america's a great place with great people, better than many on earth,yet something seems to have gone awry....."
Since when did all those vices become exclusively American? Because our system allows us to have more, thus we exceed at normal human vices all the more? Your problem is with people in general, FROSTY, not Americans.
Posted by pontificus at 09/07/2008 @ 12:47pm
Your problem is with people in general, FROSTY, not Americans.
Posted by pontificus at 09/07/2008 @ 12:47pm
not people. greedy people.
POST EUROPEANS is perhaps a better term.
i referred to americans because you keep telling me god should damn america.
There is a sufficiency in the world for man's need but not for man's greed.
~Mohandas K. Gandhi
God forbid that India should ever take to industrialism after the manner of the west... keeping the world in chains. If [our nation] took to similar economic exploitation, it would strip the world bare like locusts.
~Mohandas K. Gandhi
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/07/2008 @ 12:55pm
Since when did all those vices become exclusively American?
Posted by pontificus at 09/07/2008 @ 12:47pm | ignore this person | warn this person
frosty never claimed such were exclusively american. but if even too much of a good thing is bad, so much more too much of a bad thing!
great empires decaying from within as a result of their success is nothing new in this world and perhaps unavoidable, but i'll choose to fight against such nonetheless and perhaps we can renew ourselves morally and ethically...
but this cannot be accomplished from an ignorant denial of reality and confusion of unproven ideology with observable reality.
Posted by dexter666 at 09/07/2008 @ 12:58pm
Posted by 2HAPPY at 09/07/2008 @ 1:04pm | ignore this person | warn this person
wow hap! what a bombshell of a damning revelation there!
and i was going to vote for him!!!!
Posted by dexter666 at 09/07/2008 @ 1:10pm
ibble,
jobs and justice, jobs and justice.
there are almost as many muslims in the u.s. as there are are jews,
but they don't flip the electoral vote in new york and florida so you never hear about them.
<<<<<>>>>>
In a 2007 survey titled Muslim Americans: Middle Class and Mostly Mainstream, the Pew Research Center found Muslim Americans to be:
"largely assimilated, happy with their lives, and moderate with respect to many of the issues that have divided Muslims and Westerners around the world.
47% of respondents said they considered themselves Muslims first and Americans second. However, this was compared to 81% of British Muslims and 69% of German Muslims, when asked the equivalent question. A similar disparity exists in income, the percentage of American Muslims living in poverty is 2% higher than the general population, compared to an 18% disparity for French Muslims and 29% difference for Spanish Muslims.
<<<<<>>>>>
if those crazy muslims wanted to blow us up, there's 5 million ready to go. nothing has happened. they prefer going to the mall.
<<<<<>>>>>
i think you should be more worried about kids being raised on SAW17 AND SLIPKNOT who will soon be of age to buy uzis.
<<<<<>>>>>
jobs and justice, jobs and justice.
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/07/2008 @ 1:10pm
but this cannot be accomplished from an ignorant denial of reality and confusion of unproven ideology with observable reality.
Posted by dexter666 at 09/07/2008 @ 12:58pm
FACTS - TRUTH '08
I Mean Really, Is It So Hard?
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/07/2008 @ 1:12pm
"76% of surveyed Muslim Americans stated that they are very or somewhat concerned about the rise of Islamic extremism around the world, while 61% express a similar concern about the possibility of Islamic extremism in the United States."
jobs and justice.
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/07/2008 @ 1:16pm
Hasppy-Jefferson Davis (Palin) has never been in the military and wants Alaska to be separate from America.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/07/2008 @ 1:18pm
Posted by pontificus at 09/07/2008 @ 12:31pm
trying to connect the Iraq and 9/11 dots again? for shame
2Hap .... you don't think it possible that after living in an environment of people registering for selective service he might have thought he had to and did? At any rate, rather than speculate, I am sure the records exist to verify if he was or not.
Posted by leftofcenter at 09/07/2008 @ 1:25pm
FROSTY
i'm not denying the efficacy of jobs and justice, but neither am i denying the reality of the existance of millions of intolerant muslims here and abroad at least as hardcore as christofascists in their intolerance of others and other lifestyles.
would a job and justice (as defined by anyone other than a co-religionist of his) have stopped osama bin laden from doing what he did? do jobs, justice, and shopping malls blunt the fanaticism of the legions of marching morons of the christofascist right in this country? many of the worst cultish fanatics here seem to be doing right well for themselves financially, have good jobs and plenty of disposable income to go blow at malls and big box stores around our great imperial republic.
yet they still fantasize about the death and destruction of us heathens and still work tirelessly for their orwellian version of justice and decency (ie - injustice and opression).
words have meaning and wicked violence prone beliefs are not always blunted by a comfortable standard of living.
Posted by dexter666 at 09/07/2008 @ 1:26pm
Locke denies toleration to those who entertain opinions contrary to those moral rules necessary for the preservation of society; as for instance, that faith is not to be kept with those of another persuasion, … that dominion is founded in grace, or who will not own & teach the duty of tolerating all men in matters of religion, or who deny the existence of a god (it was a great thing to go so far--as he himself says of the parliament who framed the act of toleration … He says 'neither Pagan nor Mahomedan nor Jew ought to be excluded from the civil rights of the Commonwealth because of his religion.' Shall we suffer a Pagan to deal with us and not suffer him to pray to his god? Why have Christians been distinguished above all people who have ever lived, for persecutions? Is it because it is the genius of their religion? No, it's genius is the reverse. It is the refusing toleration to those of a different opinion which has produced all the bustles and wars on account of religion. It was the misfortune of mankind that during the darker centuries the Christian priests following their ambition and avarice combining with the magistrate to divide the spoils of the people, could establish the notion that schismatics might be ousted of their possessions & destroyed. This notion we have not yet cleared ourselves from.
Posted by LOONY LEFTY at 10/07/1776 @ 4:15pm | ignore this person | warn this person
you hate america!
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/07/2008 @ 1:34pm
so you see, ibble, it's not the religion.
IT'S CRAZY ASS MOTHERFORKERS who use religion as a tool for their crazy ass nonsense,
be they buddhists, christians or pastafarians.
go through 20th century conflicts. analyse the religions involved with the crazy ass motherflankers.
humans write the books.
the muslims were just "smart" enough to write down what people had tacitly done for centuries.
when people are fucked around and have nowhere to turn they blow off the dust off the crazy ol' book and ask god to help.
jobs and justice.
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/07/2008 @ 1:41pm
Again, the question HAPP and the rest of the Right don't want to answer...
If Sarah Palin WAS fully vetted by McCain....and she's ready to be President if something happened to him....
why are they HIDING her from the press?!?!???
Posted by Maskdelta at 09/07/2008 @ 1:42pm
why are they HIDING her from the press?!?!???
Posted by Maskdelta at 09/07/2008 @ 1:42pm
because they have created her "story" and that's all that "matters"
FACTS - TRUTH '08
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/07/2008 @ 1:49pm
Happy-At least the Obama supporters know something about him unlike you mindless people who glob onto someone you never heard of.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/07/2008 @ 2:20pm
Face the Inconvenient Truth
2Hap ... upgrade to "soothsayer" now? Like I said .. let's wait for the records to prove or disprove before we start slinging accusations regarding same, OK?
Very likely though if he was living in HI he was considering the military. Its a way out of an economically limited environment. (I lived in the islands for like 10 years. )
And besides ... how many of us at around that age "thought about" the military. I did ... I even went and took the physical and the entry tests. Didn't take the oath though. Does that make me "unclean"?
LibZ .... I see you're back and have learned on occasion not to "blog-SHOUT" (sometimes) Say hi to uncle gramps and your sister / cousin in the next trailer park over ... K. And skin me a moose while you're there...
Posted by leftofcenter at 09/07/2008 @ 2:24pm
Posted by 2HAPPY at 09/07/2008 @ 2:26pm
Is it logical that Obama is the "weak one"...when he's willing to go on a right-wing stooge like O'Reilly...
and Palin isn't, when she won't even go to Wolf Blitzer or Katie Couric, who'd fawn all over her?!?!???!??
Posted by Maskdelta at 09/07/2008 @ 2:29pm
The content of The Nation's various blogs today gives testimony to the profound vulnerability the Obama/Biden ticket as events progress. Everything but everything here is about McCain/Palin, and of that, mostly Palin. And the reason, the shameless backing and filling on the progressive positions Obama took during the primaries. Today, the "surge", anathema to any legitimate war critic and an absolute disaster by any measure is now reported to have "succeeded beyond our wildest dreams". Talk about Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee, I mean why not concede the election to McCain right now and be done with it? Together with the flip-flops on FISA, campaign finance reform, NAFTA, among others, this new reversal on the "surge" nauseates. The man's word is now less reliable than is that of George Bush. Here's a url that sums up the "surging" Obama:
http://baltimorechronicle.com/2008/090608Floyd.shtml
Principled progressives need vote for Nader.
Posted by john lowell at 09/07/2008 @ 2:32pm
Posted by 2HAPPY at 09/07/2008 @ 2:32pm
So then does the following hold true about the unfolding, multifaceted "Palin-gate"
...what is unbelievable, is how many of these "small issues" does it take for some honest {Repug} to step forward and say: "We've f*&ked up!!
Posted by leftofcenter at 09/07/2008 @ 2:37pm
Posted by librulfreaks at 09/07/2008 @ 2:30pm
Sorry LibZ .. no gin for me, although a nice red wine on occasion is OK.
So since it s Sunday, break out the good beer (you know, the real Bud Light) ... and suck a couple down. Then go back in the trailer and kiss the dog, slap the wife and screw your sister.
Posted by leftofcenter at 09/07/2008 @ 2:40pm
Happy-I'm clinging to the image of the one?Was that supposed to make sense considering my views of all politicians?I'm hardly wrong,but you knew that.It took awhile for Obama to gain support,but it took Jefferson Davis less than ten minutes for you guys to become energized.It took ten minutes because you had to look her up to find out who she was before you could be energized.You still know next to nothing about her.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/07/2008 @ 2:43pm
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/07/2008 @ 1:41pm | ignore this person | warn this person
sure, frosty...any religion can indeed be twisted to nefarious ends and indeed certain psychological types will always be attracted to the ugliest, most chauvinist forms of faith, but....
i've read a lot of religious texts, researched all sorts of belief systems, and i tell you i have found certain elements which make certain religions far more dangerous to non-believers than others, and islam is the worst.
islam not only creates a de-facto double bind as in literalist christianity where a set of faithful must struggle against a world which does not necesarily accept the draconianly dire consequences of failure to accept its dogma, but in fact actually spells out an apocalyptic pogrom against all other faiths or non-faiths, specifies how such kufar are to be conquered, enslaved, and coerced into conversion, exhorts its followers to resist any and all laws and systems other than its own (sharia), and even specifically encourages its followers to lie and hide their true desires to non-believers in order to survive until they are powerful enough to stop pretending and enforce their beliefs de jure, by violence if necesary.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2668560761490749816
check this video out. those poor british muslims! so jobless and hopeless!!!
jobs and material well being do not necesarily translate into happiness nor tolerance.
Posted by dexter666 at 09/07/2008 @ 3:06pm
Posted by librulfreaks at 09/07/2008 @ 2:11pm | ignore this person | warn this person
hey! its you again!
Posted by dexter666 at 09/07/2008 @ 3:08pm
DATELINE, Feb. 31, 2011.
Today, President Palin said she was pleased the Federal Reserve Bank had lowered the Prime Rate to MINUS 7%.
"This is just the kind of stimulus we need to get me re-elected."
Democratic controlled congress has approved raising the debt ceiling to $∞.
Commenting on the proposed Iranian provincial elections she said,
"Working with our Chinese Partners we should be able stabilize the situation enough to convince people that progress is being made but that they should still be afraid."
Secretary of God, Lou Cypher, added, "We are pleased that the Lord has promised to keep America safe until at least 2012 when His contract comes up for renewal."
Congressional leaders were unable to be reached for comment as they had turned into argon.
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/07/2008 @ 3:08pm
jobs and material well being do not necesarily translate into happiness nor tolerance.
Posted by dexter666 at 09/07/2008 @ 3:06pm
i say jobs AND justice.
these dudes AREN'T muslims:
The two Handsworth Riots occurred in the Handsworth suburb of Birmingham, England, during the summers of 1981 and 1985. The riots were allegedly caused by heavy-handed policing and drug-related problems in the suburb, fueled by a nationwide wave of uprisings in the wake of the April 1981 Brixton riot. Other sources claimed that the local Black British felt aggrieved at the increase in Asian owned businesses that were prospering in the area. Violent racism existed in the city from both cultures. It has been argued that the riots really arose from poor social conditions, racial discrimination, poverty, unemployment and dilapidated housing. Since then much has been done to improve the local amenities and housing conditions.
nor are these:
The Los Angeles riots of 1992, also known as the Rodney King uprising or the Rodney King riots, were sparked on April 29, 1992 when a jury acquitted four police officers accused in the videotaped beating of black motorist Rodney King following a high-speed pursuit. Thousands of people in the Los Angeles area rioted over the six days following the verdict. Widespread looting, assault, arson, and murder occurred, and property damages totaled one billion dollars. Many of the crimes were gang-motivated or perpetrated. In all, 53 people died during the riots.
jobs AND justice.
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/07/2008 @ 3:17pm
BARRACK MILHOUSE OSAMA 1/2 HONKEY ALL DONKEY (ZEBRA)
Posted by librulfreaks at 09/07/2008 @ 3:12pm
Mixed in with Queen Elizabeth's blue blood is the blood of the Moslem prophet Mohammed, according to Burke's Peerage, the geneological guide to royalty.
pure as the driven snow.......
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/07/2008 @ 3:19pm
jobs AND justice.
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/07/2008 @ 3:17pm | ignore this person | warn this person
i would never deny the fact that injustice and economic poverty lay the groundwork for violence.
but that has only tangential relevence to the ideology of islam.
greenland mosque in birmingham, england, claims to be a moderate, tolerant representation of islam in britain, and is frequented by a wide variety of middle and upper class british muslims, yet as "dispatches", a solid investigative british news show proved by the presence of its hidden cameras and mikes carried by courageous journalists...
it preaches
1. that gays should be brutally murdered 2. that women are inferior to men 3. that liberal western secular democracy is an abomination 4. that good muslims should follow the laws of the land and pretend to be loyal citizens until they are strong enough to overthrow the government and enforce their own theocracy onto the kufar, by violence if needed...
as well as a plethora of other notions diametrically opposed to our enlightened, secular ideas of justice and decency.
watch the video, "undercover mosque" i linked to above. its not neocon propaganda.
Posted by dexter666 at 09/07/2008 @ 3:30pm
Posted by 2HAPPY at 09/07/2008 @ 2:44pm
Oh, I thoroughly agree that McSame has been vetted. He admits to voting w/Dumbya 90% of the time. Portions of his speech were nearly verbatim of Dumbya 2000 .. so when he says "change" he's probably just referring to the monogramming on the stationary, cause his policies are BushCo all the way.
As for Palin ... aside from being a politically corrupt (or at best "questionable") religious extremist ... McSame would be the oldest 1st term POTUS ever and while he is in "good shape for a 72 year old" he has had issues that should concern Americans about the potential of a POTUS Palin succession. Regardless of your opinion it is a valid concern to myself and many Americans.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/05/23/mccain.health.records/
Posted by leftofcenter at 09/07/2008 @ 3:46pm
Principled progressives need vote for Nader.
Posted by john lowell at 09/07/2008 @ 2:32pm | ignore this person | warn this person
principled progressives need to temper their principles with reality and not lop off their noses to spite their faces.
amazing...
Posted by dexter666 at 09/07/2008 @ 3:48pm
Posted by librulfreaks at 09/07/2008 @ 3:12pm
Feeling racist and prosaic after a six-pack in the double wide and a romp with sis?
Posted by leftofcenter at 09/07/2008 @ 3:48pm
You'll be surprised at what you resd.
Posted by frankgrits at 09/07/2008 @ 3:45pm | ignore this person | warn this person
in that i am indeed a hard working lazy bastard, please enlighten me on how i will be suprised and then i may go check out whatever the hell little enlightened realization you are trying in classic socratic tradition to show me.
Posted by dexter666 at 09/07/2008 @ 3:51pm
No LibZ, I just figured inbreeding must be the source of your inane racist rants and general "frothing at the mouth"
Posted by leftofcenter at 09/07/2008 @ 3:54pm
Posted by leftofcenter at 09/07/2008 @ 3:54pm | ignore this person | warn this person
i understand LIBZ's belief system PERFECTLY.
you see, up is down and down is up, ugly is pretty and pretty is ugly, good is bad and bad is good, right is wrong and wrong is right, lies are truth and truth is lies...
its easy!
Posted by dexter666 at 09/07/2008 @ 3:57pm
666.....projecting again??????
Posted by librulfreaks at 09/07/2008 @ 3:59pm | ignore this person | warn this person
projecting projection? wha????
Posted by dexter666 at 09/07/2008 @ 4:01pm
Posted by librulfreaks at 09/07/2008 @ 3:59pm | ignore this person | warn this person
come, dance with me, LIBZ...
Posted by dexter666 at 09/07/2008 @ 4:02pm
guys, guys....LIBZ is the same ol' LIBZSUK.
Ignore pile....never worth it, never will be.
Posted by Maskdelta at 09/07/2008 @ 4:05pm
guys, guys....LIBZ is the same ol' LIBZSUK.
Ignore pile....never worth it, never will be.
Posted by Maskdelta at 09/07/2008 @ 4:05pm | ignore this person | warn this person
as usual, yer right...for an antinomian soul like that i guess any attention is good attention and therefore a positive reward.
but love thine enemies even as thou crusheth them...or just puteth them on ignore...
Posted by dexter666 at 09/07/2008 @ 4:08pm
"Since he came of 18 during that window of not having to register, it is beyond credibility to think he paid any attention at all, other than that he himself knew, or someone told him, he needn't bother!"
Sorry Happy, but you got it wrong. Carter's order required all 18-26 year olds born after 1/1/1960 to register. Obama would've been required to register at the end of July 1980, a few weeks after Carter issued the proclamation.
Incidentally, if the best you can come up with is that he should have said "after" he graduated from high school rather than "when" he graduated from high school, then you are truly grasping at straws.
Posted by brunowe at 09/07/2008 @ 4:10pm
poor mask....acting stalinist again???? spend your time more wisely....get a job....get off the public tit.....maybe u can make something of your pathetic life instead of hangin around this pathetic rag of a magazine copying posts
Posted by librulfreaks at 09/07/2008 @ 4:08pm | ignore this person | warn this person
projecting again, LIBZ?
Posted by dexter666 at 09/07/2008 @ 4:11pm
happy-I see that,like most modern republicans, you are uninformed.Obama votes aren't even close to being 100% liberal.Please,look at his voting record before posting your ignorance like you all you did when you expressed views about Jefferson Davis before you were sure what her name was.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/07/2008 @ 4:17pm
YOU STUPID FUCKING LIBZ WILL BE CRUSHED IN NOVEMBER LIKE THE GRAPES YOU ARE!!!!
Posted by librulfreaks at 09/07/2008 @ 4:16pm | ignore this person | warn this person
is that the first step in turning us into wine?
i've never been called a grape before...
Posted by dexter666 at 09/07/2008 @ 4:18pm
Happy-Having Jefferson Davis as VP would mean that most on the left will pray for McCain's good health.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/07/2008 @ 4:19pm
Posted by librulfreaks at 09/07/2008 @ 4:20pm | ignore this person | warn this person
1. so?
2. source?
Posted by dexter666 at 09/07/2008 @ 4:21pm
come LIBZ...the moonlight is pale - dance with me...
Posted by dexter666 at 09/07/2008 @ 4:23pm
librulfreaks-You mean the Obama who voted to fund the war in Iraq and who voted to give Bush the go ahead with Iran and who voted in favor of the revised FISA bill,etc?Get informed rather than post nonstop nonsense.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/07/2008 @ 4:23pm
Today on "Who Said That?" we will be playing
"PALIN OR PYTHON?"
Wherein the contestant has to tell us who actually made the quote, a member of the Palin Family, or a member of the British comedy troop Monty Python's Flying Circus
onto the game...
Quote 1:
"I've got your knickers!"
Okay, contestants, "Who said that?!!"
a: Levi Johnston to Bristol Palin
or
b: A Python
c: all of the above.
Second quote:
"A moose once bit my sister!. Mind you, moose bites can be nasty! She was carving her initials into the side of the moose with a sharpened end of a spoon..."
Contestants... Who Said That?!!
a: Piper Palin of Willow Palin
b: Willow Palin of Piper Palin
c: Monty Python writers
d: all of the above
Third quote:
"Frankly, I don't know what a vice presidents job is."
"Who Said That?!!"
a: John Cleese
b: Basil Fawlty Intelligence
c: Republican Vice Presidential Candidate Sarah Palin.
Post your votes early, viewers. Winner gets to go hunting with a vice president. What could go wrong?
Posted by crabwalk at 09/07/2008 @ 4:25pm
Posted by 2HAPPY at 09/07/2008 @ 4:19pm | ignore this person | warn this person
your big, damning point is like that 88 round that slammed under my old man's ammunition halftrack in italy in ww2 - a dud.
best fire something else off.
Posted by dexter666 at 09/07/2008 @ 4:26pm
Winner gets to go hunting with a vice president. What could go wrong?
Posted by crabwalk at 09/07/2008 @ 4:25pm | ignore this person | warn this person
2 go out...
Posted by dexter666 at 09/07/2008 @ 4:29pm
Get informed rather than post nonstop nonsense.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/07/2008 @ 4:23pm | ignore this person | warn this person
it has never posted anything else...why should it start now?
i nominate this shit spewing moron for conservative poster child of the decade.
as well as the poster child for abortion...
but MASK is correct and since it refuses to dance with me it bores me and since it now bores me i commence to ignoring it...
Posted by dexter666 at 09/07/2008 @ 4:33pm
2 go out... Posted by dexter666 at 09/07/2008 @ 4:29pm
...one comes back lightly "peppered".
Posted by crabwalk at 09/07/2008 @ 4:34pm
I missed you Beast From the Left
Have a great Buddhist/a-randian/cryptohapppy evening.
Posted by crabwalk at 09/07/2008 @ 4:37pm
Posted by crabwalk at 09/07/2008 @ 4:34pm | ignore this person | warn this person
ah birdshot...but moose hunting don't involve birdshot - one comes back severely "swiss cheezed" with buckshot...
i'll decline and get cheezed with rightwing crackpot ideology, thank you...
although that stuff is at least as deadly as 12 guage buckshot in the long run...
Posted by dexter666 at 09/07/2008 @ 4:39pm
ahhh...
Poster child for Family Values...
a pregnant teen wandering around Scooter Libby's old office, playing a game of "experience ".
Is their Lord that gracious, that She would grant us such a blessing? A First L'il BAstard of our very own?
Posted by crabwalk at 09/07/2008 @ 4:41pm
Posted by crabwalk at 09/07/2008 @ 4:37pm | ignore this person | warn this person
i kind of didnt miss you in that i could always still see you...but its nice to be missed and know i wasnt being ignored by an old friend, crabs...
thanks, lol...
Posted by dexter666 at 09/07/2008 @ 4:41pm
"which is a year AFTER he graduated from HS, is when he considered entering the military....cause all of a sudden, like millions of kids born during that window, he needs go register, Then...Oh, hmmmmmm, ok.....NOW I understand a little better why he is The Messiah to you.
Posted by 2HAPPY at 09/07/2008 @ 4:19pm | ignore this person | warn this person "
Which is the thrust of what he said. It was when he needed to register that he considered joining the military.
And no, I don't think Obama walks on water--but you clearly think YOU do.
Posted by brunowe at 09/07/2008 @ 4:42pm
Dexter, see this is why you don't "get" Sarah.
One hunts moose with a Chevy Tahoe.
Posted by crabwalk at 09/07/2008 @ 4:43pm
PYTHON or PALIN-
"I had to get up in the morning at ten o'clock at night, half an hour before I went to bed, eat a lump of freezing cold poison, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill owner for letting us work there, and when we got home, our Dad would murder us in cold blood, each night, and dance about on our graves singing "Hallelujah."
But you try and tell the young people of today that... and they won't believe ya'."
"Who Said That?!!"
A. The Yorkshireman in "Live from the Hollywood Bowl"?
B. Sarah Palin's autobiography?
Posted by Maskdelta at 09/07/2008 @ 4:45pm
Posted by librulfreaks at 09/07/2008 @ 4:20pm
Posted by 2HAPPY at 09/07/2008 @ 4:14pm
Why LibZ & 2Hap, you say "voting liberal" like its a bad thing? Look, simple reality check here. The majority of the country think we are on the wrong track and McSame's voting record tells us volumes about his allegiance to the current political navigation. Has little to do with "conservative" or "liberal" except by cooincidence (which seems to be working against you BTW)
Look, LibZ I don't think the beer is working, try the thorazine.
Posted by leftofcenter at 09/07/2008 @ 4:47pm
I get it, I get it. Obama: "I'm my brother and sister's keeper". McCain: "screw you". Evangelicals belong to the "screw you" party. McCain, has just doubled down on George Bush. Why is he claiming the mantel of change? Maverick? He isn't refusing to brand his cows he is just hiding the brand on their tails.
Posted by lachatte at 09/07/2008 @ 4:47pm
Crabs.
C, D, and C (ooo, ooo...do I win a prize?)
Dexter, all you gotta do is talk bad about trailers or inbreeding and it goes wild (says a bit, don't it?)
Posted by leftofcenter at 09/07/2008 @ 4:53pm
Posted by librulfreaks at 09/07/2008 @ 4:43pm
Yep, in a multi sided attack...
first we ran for 16 years on Family Values...
then we surrounded our candidate with her family...
then our candidate appeared in People Magazine talking about her family...
tell us, oh wise one, what is it about Palins policy on health care that excites you the most?
Or maybe you could point me to her webpage where I could find a statement on the recent troubles in Georgia?
Or maybe it will be her ability to work with a democratic congress that gets you all giggly inside?
Or maybe her experience balancing her municipal budget....no wait... that won't work.
a hoot, you are....
Posted by crabwalk at 09/07/2008 @ 4:56pm
librulfreaks-I see that you are uninformed.Liberals did not open any can of worms that pertain to looking at a candidates family.Jefferson Davis(Palin) opened up that can of worms when she ran as a family values candidate and invited the world to come in and look at her family.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/07/2008 @ 4:56pm
Posted by lachatte at 09/07/2008 @ 4:47pm
Lachatte, why he's being entirely honest.... if elected will Cindy will change the WH decor to something really garish, John will change his Depends, and Palin will change the Constitution and get rid of that pesky division between Church and State.
Is that enuff change?
Posted by leftofcenter at 09/07/2008 @ 4:59pm
PERHAPS NOW IS THE TIME TO GO AFTER THE MESSIAHS WIFE AND CHILDREN....SEEMS LIKE FAIR GAME SINCE YOU LIBZ OPENED UP THAT CAN OF WORMS
Posted by librulfreaks at 09/07/2008 @ 4:43pm | ignore this person | warn this person
ah! the monkey speaks!
they already have gone after his wife, moron! and will continue to do so!!!!
has wanting to know the circumstances surrounding the pregnancy of a goody goody two shoes christofascist family values vice presidential hypocrite's daughter "going after" her children?
mmm mmm! can dish it out, but way too thin skinned and guilty concienced to take back anything even remotely resembling "it"...
by "it" i mean the mean spirited concious mendacity of the rightwing smear machine, as in that wonderful rush limbaugh's chelsey the dog joke...what wonderful people!
but when any non-rightwingnut wants to know if mrs. mooseburger the big christianright pinup girl's daughter is preggers....
MARTYRDOM! HORRIBLE! AWFUL LIBROOLS!
oh - and one deleted story posted on dailykos by an anonymous schmuk doth not a "eleet librul media frenzy" make, idiot.
Posted by dexter666 at 09/07/2008 @ 5:01pm
LOC..
Winner gets to go hunting with a vice president. What could go wrong? Posted by crabwalk at 09/07/2008 @ 4:25pm
Do you want to be moose or squirrel?
Posted by crabwalk at 09/07/2008 @ 5:04pm
One hunts moose with a Chevy Tahoe.
Posted by crabwalk at 09/07/2008 @ 4:43pm | ignore this person | warn this person
oh...damn! so thats why those folks have 2-3 more 7 mpg vanitymobiles than anybody could possibly need!
huntin moose...thanks - i never would have understood...
stupid me!!!!
Posted by dexter666 at 09/07/2008 @ 5:05pm
"And also to get up to speed on what a Vice-President actually does. Posted by brunowe at 09/07/2008 @ 02:21am | ignore this person | warn this person"
Now, brunowe, we already covered this over on Pollitt's blog. What the vice president does, is up to the president. If I were being considered, I would sure want to find out what McCain has in mind for me.
"Yeah, that was before anyone had any real idea of how stupid W really is. To think, they actually tried to ambush him with trick questions. That's like having CC Sabathia pitch against my 6 yr old nephew's tee ball team." Posted by koroviev at 09/07/2008
Stupid or not, (and have you noticed how every Repub prez since Nixon has been variously characterized by the Left as bumbling, incompetent, or dumb? If they are, then how in the world have they won 5 of the last 7 elections?) we know that Obama won't be subjected to any "trick questions". Unscripted moments ("I'm in Kansas City.... no wait, St. Louis.") will be kept to a minimum, and underreported (relative to W) when they occur.
Posted by twillie at 09/07/2008 @ 5:19pm
"every Repub prez since Nixon has been variously characterized by the Left as bumbling, incompetent, or dumb? If they are, then how in the world have they won 5 of the last 7 elections?) "- Twillie
Sheep vote in large numbers?
Posted by crabwalk at 09/07/2008 @ 5:24pm
What the vice president does, is up to the president.
posted by Twillie
including Cheney?
Posted by leftofcenter at 09/07/2008 @ 5:40pm
Posted by twillie at 09/07/2008 @ 5:19pm
Well, 2000 wasn't so much a "win" as a draw decided by the SCOTUS, and 2004, well let's see what the GOP theme was that year shall we:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLG9TmRt0NM
Posted by leftofcenter at 09/07/2008 @ 5:43pm
Ghosts, goblins and president Ford...
Things that go bump in the night
- The Great Karnak.
Posted by crabwalk at 09/07/2008 @ 5:45pm
"Now, brunowe, we already covered this over on Pollitt's blog. What the vice president does, is up to the president. If I were being considered, I would sure want to find out what McCain has in mind for me."
Except that there are precedents for what the Vice-President has done the last couple of administrations. She seems to have been off on those too.
Posted by brunowe at 09/07/2008 @ 5:45pm
LibZ ..
In the spirit of reaching across the aisle, I will donate my prize to LibZ!
There LibZ, don't say I never gave you anything!
make sure when you go hunting with Dickrod and Sarah to wear that brown cardigan and Bullwinkle hat ... I hear they like that sort of thing.
Posted by leftofcenter at 09/07/2008 @ 5:52pm
*gasp* Osama bin Laden's half-brother lives in Kenya? Quick Libz, you gotta pass this intel on to the DHS!
If you mean OBAMA's half-brother, I believe the lead in on those stories starts "long lost" which kinda defines the family gap dontcha think. In the same breath can you answer why Cindy McCain, Mrs Rich Beer-bitch, claims that she is an "only child" when she too has half-siblings?
Now wipe the spittle off, and remember .. both hands on the keyboard LibZ!
Posted by leftofcenter at 09/07/2008 @ 6:34pm
librulfreaks-Every single GOP POTUS candidate was a white male.Please,get informed before you post more of your ignorance.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/07/2008 @ 7:00pm
Aren't you so HAPPY to help pay for that???
Posted by 2HAPPY at 09/07/2008 @ 6:40pm | ignore this person | warn this person
oh absolutely. thanks for informing me of that. i'll send another check right away.
Posted by dexter666 at 09/07/2008 @ 7:01pm
Happy-Jefferson Davis Palin is running for VP.What are Obama's relatives in Kenya running for here in America.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/07/2008 @ 7:03pm
librulfreaks-My point is obvious,but I will explain it to you since it escaped you.You were saying that the democrats are anti female,but they had a female POTUS candidate who almost won.The GOP had only white males running.They are anti female.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/07/2008 @ 7:05pm
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/07/2008 @ 7:00pm | ignore this person | warn this person
MASK is right. after a few shots, just ignore that stupid thing in "stalinist fashion"...lol...
Posted by dexter666 at 09/07/2008 @ 7:07pm
dexter-He is a perfect example of the modern GOP.Someone who shouts loudly,but says nothing.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/07/2008 @ 7:09pm
librulfreaks-Palin isn't a POTUS candidate.She was picked by McCain to be a VP running mate and was not voted for.Please,get informed since you don't even know who the GOP POTUS candidates were.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/07/2008 @ 7:11pm
librulfreaks-Not one of those is someone who is voted for by republicans.Please,get informed.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/07/2008 @ 7:13pm
librulfreaks-I mentioned POTUS candidates and you responded by mentioning Palin who is not a POTUS candidate and who was