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RedditLong notorious for its checkered history of voter suppression, Waller County, Texas's degree of racial division approaches the level of myth.
In Waller County, for example, a person calling a funeral parlor is asked: what color is the body? There are black and white funeral homes, says Christina Sanders, who directs the Black Youth Vote! effort in Texas, and the two don't ever mix.
With the Texas primary approaching, tensions flared again this month over one of the county's sorest racial issues--the color of the vote.
For decades, Waller County has repressed the vote of the local historically black college, Prairie View A&M. In 1979, the Supreme Court stepped in to intercede, upholding A&M students' right to vote where they declare residency. Yet since then, the county has gone so far as to indict A&M students that vote, and in the 2004 case of one attorney general, even threaten such students with jail and $10,000 in fines.
But this election cycle, when the county eliminated the temporary early voting location adjacent to A&M, students rebelled. The county's only other early voting site was over 7 miles away from campus in the town of Hempstead--with no bus route connecting the two. And at a time when youth turnout is at record highs, says Sanders, A&M students were outraged. "This being a historically black university, and a presidential election when we're hearing things that we can relate to--I just [couldn't] believe it," Sanders said.
On Jan. 25, the Lawyers Committee on Civil Rights sent a letter to the Department of Justice calling the move "motivated, at least in part, by a discriminatory purpose."
Students won their victory this week when, under pressure from the Department of Justice, election commissioners convened an emergency meeting to re-establish A&M's early polling site.
According to county elections supervisor Debbie Hollan, the county's original move to eliminate A&M's early voting site was prompted by a lack of available voting machines, as both parties had wanted all those available to be reserved for voters on primary day. (Several other early voting sites had been closed as well.) But federal pressure--and threat of a DOJ lawsuit--says Hollan, changed their calculations.
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"Students won their victory this week when, under pressure from the Department of Justice..."
That would be the BUSH Department of Justice?!?!??!?
Posted by Mask at 02/15/2008 @ 4:09pm
Freedom. Democracy. Hey, these are ol' Texas traditions. Read Caro on LBJ. How else could W have been elected guv? Or 22 Nov 63 have happened there?
Posted by sloper at 02/15/2008 @ 4:15pm
Or 22 Nov 63 have happened there?
Posted by SLOPER 02/15/2008 @ 4:15pm
Squeaky Fromme tried to kill Ford in Sacramento and Moore tried to kill him in San Francisco. Hinckley tried to kill Reagan in DC.
Indicative of Northern California and the District were they???
Posted by Mask at 02/15/2008 @ 4:24pm
Hurray for students!!
Posted by bridoc at 02/15/2008 @ 4:26pm
Students won their victory this week when, under pressure from the Department of Justice, election commissioners convened an emergency meeting to re-establish A&M's early polling site.
Hurray for A&M!
Posted by Metteyya at 02/15/2008 @ 4:29pm
Squeaky Fromme tried to kill Ford in Sacramento and Moore tried to kill him in San Francisco. Hinckley tried to kill Reagan in DC. Indicative of Northern California and the District were they??? Posted by MASK 02/15/2008 @ 4:24pm
All flops, all lone wolves, none themselves killed. None requiring long investigations & counterinvestigations. All most unlike Dallas.
Read Caro. Esepecially the last volume when it appears, it'll be a doozy.
Posted by sloper at 02/15/2008 @ 4:33pm
Posted by SLOPER 02/15/2008 @ 4:33pm
Well, SLOPER, we all know the direction you're going in....
"Up..and to the left....up...and to the left....up...and to the left"
And I always find it amazing that the guy who risked his Presidency and possibly his party's hold on the South to aid the cause of civil rights...was a calculating co-conspirator to murder of a President.
Posted by Mask at 02/15/2008 @ 4:47pm
BTW, given the conspiracy tangent, I'm sure RESE will show up past midnight (after she rises from her bunker)....would somebody remind her than in less than 6 weeks....
she has to "shut up"?
(Posted by RESE 05/22/2007 @ 09:58am)
Posted by Mask at 02/15/2008 @ 4:53pm
Caro is indeed an eminent historian. I'm a huge fan of "the Power Broker"
Posted by emile duBois at 02/15/2008 @ 4:59pm
Posted by ZERO 02/15/2008 @ 4:34pm
American Research Group---February 15, 2008 - Texas Primary Preferences
Democrats TX
Clinton 42%
Obama 48%
Someone else 3%
Undecided 7%
Hillary Clinton leads Barack Obama among self-described Democrats 47% to 42%. Obama leads Clinton among self-described independents and Republicans 24% to 71%. Obama leads among men 55% to 29% (47% of likely Democratic primary voters) and Clinton leads among women 54% to 42%. Clinton leads Obama among white voters 51% to 40% (53% of likely Democratic primary voters), Obama leads Clinton among African American voters 76% to 17% (22% of likely Democratic primary voters), and Clinton leads Obama among Latino voters 44% to 42%.
22% of likely Democratic primary voters say they would never vote for Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primary and 20% of likely Democratic primary voters say they would never vote for Barack Obama in the primary. 30% of men say they would never vote for Clinton in the primary.
Posted by MASK
Posted by Metteyya at 02/15/2008 @ 5:02pm
Caro is indeed an eminent historian. I'm a huge fan of "the Power Broker"Posted by EMILE DUBOIS 02/15/2008 @ 4:59pm
Ever better than than his Bob Moses bio, Caro's multi-volume bio of LBJ stands among the giants of bio in any language, any time. The last volume, which will include those highly problematic months of Nov 63 & June 68, overdue. Much awaited & mused about by many.
Posted by sloper at 02/15/2008 @ 5:30pm
Posted by ZERO 02/15/2008 @ 4:34pm
ZERO, again, you predicted Hillary would win Maine because of how stodgy and Eastern Establishment they were.
Posted by Mask at 02/15/2008 @ 5:57pm
Posted by SLOPER 02/15/2008 @ 5:30pm | ignore this person
that may indeed be so. it's just that I know the terrain of the Moses story.
Posted by emile duBois at 02/15/2008 @ 5:58pm
Posted by MASK 02/15/2008 @ 4:09pm
hey mask, don't you think TE-PING CHEN should stick to "asian stories"?
this one must be out of her realm.
"This just in from Nation Washington Intern Te-Ping Chen"
So you have to have the Chinese-American intern do a story about the Chinese-American SecLabor?
CYA for charges of racism, maybe?
Posted by MASK 02/12/2008 @ 4:52pm
Posted by frosty zoom at 02/15/2008 @ 6:15pm
Posted by ZERO 02/15/2008 @ 4:34pm
well, if he doesn't win, he doesn't go below 41.37%
Posted by frosty zoom at 02/15/2008 @ 6:20pm
Posted by FROSTY ZOOM 02/15/2008 @ 6:15pm
Actually I was asking Christopher Hayes that...not the reverse.
Posted by Mask at 02/15/2008 @ 6:56pm
Posted by ZERO 02/15/2008 @ 6:29pm
Well, sorry if there's any confusion about me being civil to you.
I WANT to be rude and obnoxious to you because you're the same idiot who mocked the death of Daniel Pearl and put "quotes" around the terrorists who beheaded him.
Hope that clears it up.
Posted by Mask at 02/15/2008 @ 6:59pm
Has anyone else done this "Important Five Minute Survey" from The Nation? I have an ad at the top of all my pages so I thought, "Wow, The Nation must want to know my opinion of their website or suggestions for improvement." Nada. Some bullshit ad for a cell phone company. WTF? I don't know why I'm surprised but it caught me off-guard.
Posted by FritztheCat at 02/15/2008 @ 7:29pm
Posted by ZERO 02/15/2008 @ 7:14pm
"Years ago"?....try EIGHT MONTHS ago--
"But, that would require more than cheerleading for a rich white man from the WSJ, who was killed by "terrorists". ---Posted by ZERO 06/25/2007 @ 4:04pm
"Why, with all of this to work with, did Hollywood choose to cover unrepentant right-wing Daniel Pearl?"----Posted by ZERO 06/25/2007 @ 4:14pm
BLOG | Posted 06/25/2007 @ 2:23pm Dying For Press Freedom by Lakshmi Chaudhry
Maybe you can explain why the people who BEHEADED Pearl were "quote" "terrorists" "unquote"....or why it's no biggie to kill "rich white men" or "unrepentent right-wingers" by lopping their heads off?
Posted by Mask at 02/15/2008 @ 7:34pm
Posted by ZERO 02/15/2008 @ 7:15pm
Sure and none of them are cavalier about reporters being killed, or cavalier about ANYBODY being killed by "terrorists".
Posted by Mask at 02/15/2008 @ 7:35pm
terrorists.
once again, lookey here:
TOP GMA STORIES
Killer of 5 Was Honored Student, but Also Discharged From Army
Illinois Shooter Had Plan, Bought 4 Guns
Ex-Cop Guilty in Murder of Girlfriend
these are the headlines i deleted when i look for a story about mr. waste in atlanta's drought.
no, mask. i'm not being cavalier about mr. pearl's murder. nor anybody's else's.
it's just if terrorism is to be stopped, the first place to start is at "home".
Posted by frosty zoom at 02/15/2008 @ 8:00pm
Since comments are not allowed on the VIDEONATION pieces, I've gotta post this somewhere.
The clip of vanden Heuvel, Matthews, and Buchanan discussing the Democrat primaries (with hardly a mention of the "war" as we are led to believe):
An astonishing 82% of African-American voters are voting for Obama. Did anyone know there's a phrase that explains this phenomenon? The phrase is ETHNIC SOLIDARITY.... Never heard that one before.
Posted by bleedingheart at 02/15/2008 @ 8:48pm
Posted by FROSTY ZOOM 02/15/2008 @ 8:00pm
FROSTY, do you think it's possible to care about domestic violence AND be outraged that a journalist is beheaded by some religious thugs?
or is it an either/or kind of thing?
Hopefully it's not a ZERO "who cares if some unrepentent right winger rich white guy gets decapitated" kind of thing?
Posted by Mask at 02/15/2008 @ 8:50pm
Posted by BLEEDINGHEART 02/15/2008 @ 8:48pm
I'll bet Ms vanden Heuvel didn't mention how MSNBC "traffics in misogyny" either!
heheh
Posted by Mask at 02/15/2008 @ 8:51pm
Children Children----Can't we just all get along??? Hey lets all join together now and sing a song about a world without borders, religion, and war---Oh forgot---John Lennon already did that one----but worked well for him right---oh forgot--murdered-------Dang the real world really sucks doesn't it.
Posted by Len Mosse at 02/15/2008 @ 8:53pm
Posted by MASK 02/15/2008 @ 8:50pm
everyday on this blog there is talk about how the terrorists are out to get us, and how islam is to blame. everybody seems so AFRAID.
yet, i am the only person here who EVER posts about these so-called "random" shootings that keep happening and happening.
the numbers are adding up and UP.
nihilistic terrorism,
that no one wants to think about, or even notice,
except for its "fifteen" minutes of infamy.
no one cares why.
Posted by frosty zoom at 02/15/2008 @ 9:09pm
no one cares why.----Posted by FROSTY ZOOM 02/15/2008 @ 9:09pm
Sure they do. It's just so politicized that the "why" becomes an argument and nothing gets resolved.
is the "why" ..."Because we don't ban all firearms" (and please, gun control folks, that IS the "end-game"...you can put all the nutjobs you want through all the "waiting periods" and "background checks" and we'll STILL get massacres and you know it...so 'fess up)
or is the "why"...."Because we've lost our faith and values (usually Christian, usually fundamentalist) and that's why the kids are going nuts".
And everybody pulls the tragedy towards THEIR agenda and tries to use it.
The truth is Al Capone was mowing guys down at the HEIGHT of the 1920s Revival (Billy Sunday and Aimee Semple McPherson)...
and Thompson submachine guns were legal to own (though registered) throughout the 30s, 40s, 50s, and 60s, but school shootings were rare (though DID occur...so it's not totally new).
So...what's the answer? More gun control? Okay, but why will gun "Prohibiton" work better than alcohol Prohibition or the Drug War? Sure the guns will be "stashed away"...but when they "come out" it'll be too late.
"Revivalism and prayer in school"?....yeah, right.
Posted by Mask at 02/15/2008 @ 9:45pm
...everybody seems so AFRAID.
Posted by FROSTY ZOOM 02/15/2008 @ 9:09pm
Ever ridden an ATV (All Terrain Vehicle)? Read a short blurp on ATVs in today's WSJ.
The summer after my freshman year, I had a FT job that required riding an ATV once an hour to go upstream along a small river to take river level readings....then come back to the pumping station which was taking river water to fill a FPL power plant cooling reservoir being filled....plant was under construction. The river gauges dictated how many pumps to run and how much water we could take. It was a blast....those days, in the 70s', ATVs were new and all 3-wheelers....in those early days, no one gave any thoughts to how safe/dangerous they were.....we weren't even told, much less required, to wear helmets. Great summer job, paid well......but was kinda scary during the rotating grave yard shifts when you are alone, for miles around out in the boonies. I did some `stuff' one night and went to work out there, alone,...yeah, I know, stupid....and that was about as scared as I had ever been.
Why I mention ATVs? In each of 2005 & 2006, something like 600 to 800 kids were killed, many more hurt....yet the death rate is a relatively low 1 per 10,000. The point is, a few sensational copy-cat killings by nutjobs get a lot of media coverage which promotes this exact sad & sick way misfits go `out' guns blazing....you even fall for this by citing these `faithfully'...but in the aggregate, per year, less than a 100 die in these types of made-for-media, starring Dying Famous Killers, massacres.
Posted by Happy at 02/15/2008 @ 10:24pm
Late night humor I found at Slate.....I can understand many here, won't think it's funny...then this is not for you...LOL:
Letter from a young, hip, cynical former Obamamaniac.
By Dahlia Lithwick
Updated Thursday, Feb. 14, 2008, at 6:43 PM ET
Dear Barack:
I know it's kind of lame to break up with you on Valentine's Day. And on the Internet to boot. But it's also kind of ironic. And that's what I need to tell you. As an ironic, contrarian, so-hip-it-hurts Gen X-er, I just can't love you anymore. I can't like you because … because, well, everyone else does. And suddenly supporting you just seems soooo last week.
Last week, my hip friends were all thronging stadiums and manning phone banks for you. Now they're all blogging against you and downing water and Tylenol like they've just done 12 Obama shooters in 20 minutes and then barfed in the cloakroom.
I know this is going to sound strange, but it's not you, Barack, it's me. Really it always was me, but now it's really, really about me. I don't know when we started to feel weird supporting you, but: My friend Hanna thinks it started with that "Yes We Can," video. I mean, last week I was totally crying watching it. Now just thinking about how choked up I got gives me the creeps. I think I felt something at the time, but even if I did, I'm pretty sure I don't want to feel it anymore. Feeling inspired is soooo early-February......
Posted by Happy at 02/15/2008 @ 11:27pm
Sure they do. It's just so politicized that the "why" becomes an argument and nothing gets resolved.
well, that's pathetic
is the "why" ..."Because we don't ban all firearms" (and please, gun control folks, that IS the "end-game"...you can put all the nutjobs you want through all the "waiting periods" and "background checks" and we'll STILL get massacres and you know it...so 'fess up)
well, either we are generating more and more "nutjobs", more and more non-"nutjobs" are killing the innocent, or both. it is easier with a gun.
or is the "why"...."Because we've lost our faith and values (usually Christian, usually fundamentalist) and that's why the kids are going nuts".
it's the devil's music
And everybody pulls the tragedy towards THEIR agenda and tries to use it.
well, my agenda it to be calm and nice.
The truth is Al Capone was mowing guys down at the HEIGHT of the 1920s Revival (Billy Sunday and Aimee Semple McPherson)...
and Thompson submachine guns were legal to own (though registered) throughout the 30s, 40s, 50s, and 60s, but school shootings were rare (though DID occur...so it's not totally new).
So...what's the answer? More gun control? Okay, but why will gun "Prohibiton" work better than alcohol Prohibition or the Drug War? Sure the guns will be "stashed away"...but when they "come out" it'll be too late.
"Revivalism and prayer in school"?....yeah, right.
i wish i knew brother. i feel much happier now that i have eschewed violent entertainment. much calmer. but i am a spiritual libertarian. you may fill your mind with whatever you wish. just don't hurt others.
alas.................
to me the funny thing lies in the fact that solving international terrorism of the kind we see today -- jihadists, basques, tamils.... -- is much easier to solve
than this homegrown terrorism unleashed against happiness.
Posted by MASK 02/15/2008 @ 9:45pm
Posted by frosty zoom at 02/16/2008 @ 02:03am
but in the aggregate, per year, less than a 100 die in these types of made-for-media, starring Dying Famous Killers, massacres.
Posted by HAPPY 02/15/2008 @ 10:24pm
of course. but the frequency is growing. unmistakable.
and yet. nobody has died in north america at the hands of jihadists since 2001.
no one.
and how many before then?
1993 -- 6 [if you can find me more, let me know]
yet, everybody is afraid.
so the probability of a "random shooting" touching your life is much greater than being hit by a jihadist.
a whole bunch more.
so why are we afraid of terrorists?
to be honest, i'm not afraid of either of these things. i'm more afraid that someone's gonna bust my car window looking for money to buy crack.
unmistakably troubling, however, is the demographic most prevalent in perpetrators of "random shootings".
Posted by frosty zoom at 02/16/2008 @ 02:14am
Posted by HAPPY 02/15/2008 @ 11:27pm
alcohol and tylenol cause liver damage -- careful.
that's funny, but you're still going to vote for obama over mccain in november ;=]
Posted by frosty zoom at 02/16/2008 @ 02:17am
"And I always find it amazing that the guy who risked his Presidency and possibly his party's hold on the South to aid the cause of civil rights...was a calculating co-conspirator to murder of a President."
Posted by MASK
I always find it amazing that in the year 2008, people still think they can assume someone is a good person merely because their administration pursued goals said person approves of. How do you think that Johnson Presidency came about, after all? By the death of his predecessor.
Posted by Kevin_OKeeffe at 02/16/2008 @ 02:22am
Posted by MASK 02/15/2008 @ 7:35pm
hey mask, do any of your friends hate every single asian because there is something inherently wrong with their culture? zero hates all asians because he feels there is something inherently wrong with their culture. remember? poor little zero felt snubbed by asians. i wonder how many of his friends feel that way, that is if he actually has a friend. i doubt if he has a friend. they would have to spend all of their time trying to fill the bottomless abyss of neeeeed created by his complete lack of self esteem.
Posted by loveloki at 02/16/2008 @ 02:24am
this racism in texas is repulsive. its long past time for racism to be over. texans should be humiliated and working toward a quick end of these ugly tendencies. the funeral home part of this article really blew me away. i can't believe this sort of thing still exists.
Posted by loveloki at 02/16/2008 @ 02:36am
I agree with you happy totally about the inflation of these killings. There is a great book called Fear. It discusses how we over-inflate minor things whil using them to pull a cloak over the things we SHOULD be worried about. People focus on these media circus events like they are common but you have a better chance of being struck by lightning than dying in a school shooting. Shouldn't we be concentrating on fighting lightning? Just a thought.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 02/16/2008 @ 04:51am
How do you think that Johnson Presidency came about, after all? By the death of his predecessor.
Posted by KEVIN_OKEEFFE 02/16/2008 @ 02:22am | ignore this person
this proves NOTHING. it doesn't even indicate anything.
like many others, I believe that if there was a conspiracy to kill JFK, it was Castro who did it. no fewer than six attempts were reportedly made on Castro's life by the CIA. that he may have reciprocated would not be surprising.
Posted by emile duBois at 02/16/2008 @ 09:09am
Posted by SLOPER 02/15/2008 @ 4:15pm | ignore this person
I don't believe Caro will alter the narrative of the Kennedy assassination.
Posted by emile duBois at 02/16/2008 @ 09:10am
to me the funny thing lies in the fact that solving international terrorism of the kind we see today -- jihadists, basques, tamils.... -- is much easier to solve---Posted by FROSTY ZOOM 02/16/2008 @ 02:03am
Really?...how?
Posted by Mask at 02/16/2008 @ 09:11am
Posted by KEVIN_OKEEFFE 02/16/2008 @ 02:22am
If I inherit a million dollars because my grand-dad dies in a car accident...it doesn't necessarily follow that I "cut the brake lines".
If I donate the million to charity...the odds go down even further.
If you see the analogy to Johnson.
Posted by Mask at 02/16/2008 @ 09:13am
Posted by LOVELOKI 02/16/2008 @ 02:24am
Asians...or FEMINISTS...Zero can be called on to take a slightly less than "progressive" attitude. (or also apparently journalists if they're the "wrong color" or "wrong wealth status" or "unrepentently" the "wrong politics".)
Posted by Mask at 02/16/2008 @ 09:16am
RSS Printer Friendly Email to a Friend Digg This en español Commentary How to Reduce Terrorism: Bring American Troops Home June 11, 2002 Thomas Gale Moore
Both Vice President Dick Cheney and FBI Director Robert Mueller have asserted that another terrorist attack is "inevitable." They are right. There are too many targets and too many ways that an individual bent on suicide can wreak havoc. Like the war on drugs, the war on terrorism cannot be won.
In his September address to Congress, President Bush declared: Our war on terror begins with Al-Qaida, but it does not end there. It will not end until every terrorist group of global reach has been found, stopped and defeated.
Our desire for revenge is natural, but the president's end cannot be achieved. We are the strongest power the world has ever seen, not only in absolute terms but also relative to the rest of the globe. Our overwhelming success in the Persian Gulf War, with only 148 American deaths, our victory in Kosovo without any fatalities, and our conquering of Afghanistan with only a handful of casualties have given the impression that our military is invincible.
But our military, no matter how invincible, cannot eliminate the suicide bomber, the terrorist who will die for his cause. As long as people hate us, we will always be vulnerable.
While we cannot eliminate terrorism, we can reduce its frequency and violence. We should consider its roots. If we understand why people hate us and are willing to die to attack us, it does not mean we are justifying their actions. If our policies are leading to more terrorism, however, we should understand that.
Osama bin Laden has told us why he is attacking us: because wehave troops in the "holy" territory of Saudi Arabia. In his first tape after Sept. 11 he promised: "I swear to God that America will not live in peace before all the army of infidels depart the land of the prophet Muhammad." Not only does he feel this way, but so do many millions in the Islamic world.
Sept. 11, we have deployed troops in Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgystan and Georgia. Also in the Philippines and Colombia. We are talking about stationing our soldiers in Sudan and Yemen. In each of these countries, the local populace resents our presence. In Muslim countries, the opposition is particularly hostile since it believes Christianity is on another Crusade to invade Islam.
Wherever we have bases, the local population resents those troops. In Okinawa, the locals strongly oppose the U.S. soldiers stationed on their island. Many of the South Korean population hate the American military in their midst.
American troops abroad furnish both a motivation for terrorism and a target. If we brought our men and women home, would we be safer or less safe? The answer is clear: We would reduce the motivation to attack us. Americans would be seen more as we think we are, peaceful people who wish good things for the world.
This goes against the grain; it could be seen as giving in to Osama bin Laden. But if our object is to reduce terrorism, it is the most practical and probably the only solution.
A misguided machismo must not stand in the way of protecting our people and reducing violence in the world. No one will believe we are weak, especially after seeing our military in action over the last decade, simply because we stop trying to police the rest of the world.
Bringing our troops home--why do we have soldiers in Germany and Okinawa?--would increase our security, not decrease it. Even before Sept. 11, more than 60,000 U.S. troops were operating in more than 100 countries. No wonder people consider America an imperial power.
If we also reduced our unseemly favoritism for Israel by taking a more neutral stance, our credibility in the world and especially in the Arab countries would increase immensely. That too would help reduce the hatred that many feel toward the United States.
President Bush explained to Congress why the terrorists hate America. He said: They hate what we see right here in this chamber--a democratically elected government. They hate our freedoms--our freedom of religion, our freedom of speech, our freedom to vote and assemble and disagree with each other.
The President is wrong. According to a Zogby International Poll released on April 11, a majority of people in the five Arab countries and three non-Arab Muslim states view our freedom and our democracy with favor.
But overwhelmingly, they disapprove of our policies toward Arab nations and the Palestinians. Kuwait, for example, which we rescued from Iraq, liked our freedom and democracy by 58 percent to 39 percent, but only 6 percent viewed our policies favorably and a huge 88 percent disapproved of our policies in the Middle East.
Other Muslim countries had almost identical views. And this poll was taken before Israel sent its military into the West Bank!
Finally, attacking Iraq or any other Middle Eastern country will only increase the number of terrorists who will seek to get revenge. Let us reduce terrorism, not increase it. The policies currently being followed and those being talked about will only produce more 9/11s. Security cannot come from violence.
We should follow Thomas Jefferson's advice from his first inaugural: "Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations--entangling alliances with none."
Thomas Gale Moore is Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution and a Member of the Board of Advisors at The Independent Institute in Oakland, Calif.
Posted by frosty zoom at 02/16/2008 @ 09:25am
so, perhaps it's easy to get your neighbour to stop hating you
than to stop hating yourself.
Posted by frosty zoom at 02/16/2008 @ 09:26am
not saying there is no racism in texas, but if college kids were fired up for a white male, does anyone thing the repugnants would not try to limit their voting impact? hmmm...good question...
again, not saying there is no more racism in the south, but...
northern liberal types LOVE to think of the south in terms of outdated "heat of the night" style stereotypes - partly to reinforce their own superiority complex, partly to ignore racism in their midst....
but the simple fact that average IQ, income/wealth production, and lack of economic/social development in the south should be MORE than enough reason for northerners to feel superior to southerners. sure, throw some exagerrated racism on the pile if you like, but not so sure thats entirely fair in 2008...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 02/16/2008 @ 09:28am
Even before Sept. 11, more than 60,000 U.S. troops were operating in more than 100 countries.
you are understating the case by a huge margin. the US has 60,000 troops in Germany alone, as well as a roughly the same number in Japan.
Posted by emile duBois at 02/16/2008 @ 09:32am
Froz, I know you were quoting. the author is understating etc
Posted by emile duBois at 02/16/2008 @ 09:33am
Posted by LEN MOSSE 02/15/2008 @ 8:53pm | ignore this person
what really sucks is idiotic posts such as this one.
Posted by emile duBois at 02/16/2008 @ 09:34am
Posted by IBBLEBLIBBLE 02/16/2008 @ 09:28am
If for NO other reason, I'd love to see Obama win Texas (and with good "white vote" numbers)....and then ask some of these snotty Yankees why he can "win in Texas, but NOT in New Hampshire or Massachusetts?...Racism, maybe?"
(not seriously, but just to throw it back in the face of our "diversity superior" brothers/sisters to the North).
(Oh, also, because if Obama wins Texas, Her Majesty is finished...heheh)
Posted by Mask at 02/16/2008 @ 09:40am
Posted by LEN MOSSE 02/15/2008 @ 8:53pm
indeed, len - apparantly opposing evil is dangerous. laugh at those who oppose evil and hide. fools!
Posted by ibbleblibble at 02/16/2008 @ 09:43am
Posted by MASK 02/16/2008 @ 09:40am
yeah - i love the snotty liberal NE effs, but outside of clinton country...looks like the south could well be an obama sweep - and not JUST as a result of the black vote...
but they LUUUUVVV the old stereotypes and just can't seem to get beyond such...
regardless...yer right...hee hee ha ha!
Posted by ibbleblibble at 02/16/2008 @ 09:48am
Texas is definitely in play. Anyone not seeing that is just not looking very hard. Demographics are changing a lot in the south and especially in Texas. Not to discount the great neg motivator in our HW...
2008 Texas Democratic Presidential Primary
Pollster____________Dates_____Clinton___Obama__Undecided
InsiderAdvantage__2/14/08______48_______41 _______1
Am Resrch Grp___2/13-14/08____42_______48_______ 7
Tx C U League___2/11-13/08____ 49_______41 _______8
IVR Polls________1/30-31/08____48_______38_______10
IVR Polls__________6/4/07______40______ 15_______19
http://www.pollster.com/08-TX-Dem-Pres-Primary.php
And in 2 more weeks who's to say, Barack could surpass Billary-- it's looking like a strong possibility!
Posted by hsuBfools at 02/16/2008 @ 10:39am
Dang the real world really sucks doesn't it.
Posted by LEN MOSSE 02/15/2008 @ 8:53pm
One day you will live to experience it.
Maybe you could start by going to Iraq and help them sort out the mess. You neo-cons have the answers, after all.
Posted by crabwalk at 02/16/2008 @ 10:51am
this article is just more hippy lies. There is no voter suppression in the United states.
Two e-mails, prepared for the executive director of the Bush campaign in Florida and the campaign's national research director in Washington DC, contain a 15-page so-called "caging list".
It lists 1,886 names and addresses of voters in predominantly black and traditionally Democrat areas of Jacksonville, Florida.http://www.votelaw.com/blog/archives/002623.html
In Ohio, Republicans have recruited 3,600 poll monitors and assigned them disproportionately to such heavily black areas as inner-city Cleveland, where Democratic "527" groups have registered many tens of thousands of new voters. "The organized left's efforts to, quote unquote, register voters -- I call them ringers -- have created these problems" of potential massive vote fraud, Cuyahoga County Republican Chairman James P. Trakas recently told the New York Times.http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A707-2004Oct26.html
Do the neo-cons have any proof of massive widespread voter fraud? No, they have zilch, just like Iraqi WMD's. Clearly the "real world" does not have enough problems, the cons have to invent them so they have something to be afraid of.
Posted by crabwalk at 02/16/2008 @ 10:59am
The dirty tricks in Lucas Country started long before election day. For instance, the Democratic headquarters was broken into and key voter data was stolen.
In the months before the election, when voting rights activists tried to challenge the Republican Secretary of State, Ken Blackwell's partisan handling of provisional ballots in court, Tom Noe intervened on Blackwell's behalf. Blackwell also served as co-chair for the Ohio Bush-Cheney campaign,
While Tom handled the court business, Bernadette worked to reverse the Ohio tradition of allowing provisional ballots to be cast in precincts other than the one in which voters were registered and helped disenfranchise many inner-city Toledo Democratic voters.
On November 2, 2004, during the election, inner city voting machines broke down and polls opened late. The Toledo Blade reported that the sole machine at the Birmingham polling site in east Toledo broke down at about 7 am, and that per order of Secretary Blackwell, there were no paper ballots available for backup.
At one school the voting machines were locked in the principals office, and the principal just happened to call in sick election day. Another school in west Toledo temporarily ran out of ballots.
In precinct after precinct, African-American voters were disenfranchised as the waiting lines grew to three, four and 5 hours and thousands were forced to leave without voting.
The Blade discovered that in the summer of 2004, 28,000 voters were "erased" from the Lucas County registration rolls and found the purge included voters like Barbara and Ralph George "who first registered to vote for John F. Kennedy in 1960 and had lived in the same East Toledo house for 44 years."
After a job well-done in Lucas County, in January 2005, the happy Noe couple co-sponsored Ohio,s inaugural ball in Washington, and according to the Blade, "Mr. Bush and Mr. Noe embraced. The President then hugged Mrs. Noe."
However, on April 8, 2005, it started raining on the Noe,s parade when the results of an investigation into the Lucas County election turned up so much dirt that it forced Secretary Blackwell to fire the entire Lucas County Board of Elections.
The investigation cited over a dozen areas of "grave concern" including failure to maintain ballot security; inability to implement and maintain a trackable system for voter ballot reconciliation; failure to prepare and develop a plan for the processing of the voluminous amount of voter registration forms received; issuance and acceptance of incorrect absentee ballot forms; and failure to maintain the security of poll books during the official canvas.
...A week later, on June 14, 2005, Governor Taft sent a letter to the Ohio Ethics Commission admitting that he failed to disclose perks and favors from Noe, stating that it has, "recently come to my attention that I failed to list a number of golf outings or events on my financial disclosure forms over the past several years."
On July 22, 2005, Attorney General, Petro, said Noe stole millions of dollars by using a "Ponzi" scheme to fabricate profits.- http://www.counterpunch.org/pringle06092006.html
So, neo-cons, what do you say when the republican Sec of state has to fire the ENTIRE board of elections? When the Chair of the local republican party goes to jail for fraud? How about the "fairness " of the head of the GOP being the head of the election committee for Chimpy McFlightsuit?
I know the answer!!!!!!!!
Bill Clinton,,
Sandy Berger
9/11!!!!!!!!!
Posted by crabwalk at 02/16/2008 @ 11:13am
ibble, there is racism everywhere. here in montana, the racism is most prevalent against native americans. but i cannot imagine anyone here at a funeral home asking the color of the body! i try not to buy into the heat of the night stereotypes. i really want to believe things are changing everywhere. but what about the funeral home thing?
Posted by loveloki at 02/16/2008 @ 12:50pm
Posted by LOVELOKI 02/16/2008 @ 12:50pm |
i don't know...there's a black owned funeral parlor here too...and i think its almost exclusively used by blacks...been like this for years.
people just seem to stick with what they know and are familiar with in terms of death...
its like a few years ago when had moved to a new town and went to a barber shop - found out it was a black barber shop...sat there a while trying to be fair and open, but the black guys looked at me like i was crazy...lol...guess they got a good laugh when i got up and politely left...
no racism...just didn't know what to do...and the black barbers looked a bit...perplexed...
but funeral parlors tend to get heavy repeat business/loyalty, you know?
Posted by ibbleblibble at 02/16/2008 @ 1:09pm
I went to a black barber shop in Durham, north carolina. they were happy to accommodate me, but were uncertain of their ability to cut "white" hair.
context, blacks are very sensitive about hair. small wonder, they have always been made to feel inferior with their nappy hair. they used to spend a fortune straightening their hair, to make it look like ours. the big turning point came in the 60s with the "natural" and then with the afro. we are largely passed that now, what with dread locks and all. most surprising is the Yul Brynner look that is the fashion now.
Posted by emile duBois at 02/16/2008 @ 1:30pm
past, not passed
Posted by emile duBois at 02/16/2008 @ 1:57pm
Posted by EMILE DUBOIS 02/16/2008 @ 1:30pm |
it was a funny experience. i was afraid they wouldn't know how cut my whitey hair...and i think they were nervous too...
but successful funeral parlors can be in business for a LONG time and do repeat business with families...so the funeral parlor indictment was imho a bit of a sensationalist stretch...
no funeral parlors in harlem that cater to black clientele???? see what i mean?
Posted by ibbleblibble at 02/16/2008 @ 2:19pm
thanks ibble. from what you've said, i understand enough to know i don't understand. the funeral homes here bury all colors. no distinction.
Posted by loveloki at 02/16/2008 @ 2:41pm
Posted by LOVELOKI 02/16/2008 @ 2:41pm
no prob, love. around here there are a couple of traditionally black funeral parlors which have been in business for over a hundred years. when local black people lose a love one they just go where they've always gone...not really racist...just morbid brand loyalty, sort of...lol...
i think the "white" parlors get some blacks now...not really sure. they can grind me up and turn me into soylent green when i go for all i care...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 02/16/2008 @ 2:57pm
Dark soylent green, or lite?
Posted by crabwalk at 02/16/2008 @ 6:14pm
Hey LOVELOKI,
You gotta get with the program! It's not refered to as RACISM anymore, it's now phrased ETHNIC SOLIDARITY. Just watch the VIDEONATION clip from "Hardball" featuring vanden Heuvel. No no, racism is soooo yesterday.
And for all you southerners, thanks for giving Obama a clean sweep. That's more than we can for the New Yorkers and Californians! (There must be some ETHNIC SOLIDARITISTS in those two states?)
Posted by bleedingheart at 02/16/2008 @ 10:47pm
I don't believe Caro will alter the narrative of the Kennedy assassination.Posted by EMILE DUBOIS 02/16/2008 @ 09:10am
AssassinationS.
Just watch.
Posted by sloper at 02/17/2008 @ 10:35am
Posted by CRABWALK 02/16/2008 @ 6:14pm |
no preference...or they can just leave my body and let my cats eat me. that would be fine with me too...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 02/17/2008 @ 11:50am
whiskalent fleshtone
(your cats would miss you way too much. they'd sniff but that's it.)
Posted by frosty zoom at 02/17/2008 @ 2:11pm
The interesting matter here ... ... Is that the Texas Democratic Party and the DNC are indifferent to these matters. Texas has a Jim Crow election code which has always inverted and subverted Art. VI of the state constitution.
The cringing liberals -- white, male, lawyers -- who run the TDP just love to punt all of this to the Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice.
That way, a large and pervasive matter of economic discrimination is reduced to a small and narrow matter of race discrimination that fits right in with the Grisham novel cringing liberals have kept Texas in for thirty years now.
Posted by JRBehrman at 02/17/2008 @ 6:39pm