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posted by Peter Rothberg on 09/26/2008 @ 02:20am

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This Saturday, September 27, tens of thousands of people nationwide are joining together for a national day of action to let the candidates, and the country, know that they're ready to start transitioning to a green economy. Organized by Green for All, 1 Sky and the We Campaign, this day of action currently includes more than 600 events in all 50 states of the union and the list is growing. The events run the gamut -- from block parties, teach-ins, living room discussions, service and work projects, film screenings, lectures, town hall meetings, public programs with food, music, poetry......and much more.

Find an event.

Host an event.

Learn more.

Watch this space tomorrow for profiles of some of the many groups, like 350.org, supporting Saturday's historic action and how you can get involved.

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the dystopic future is NOW!

Posted by dexter666 at 09/25/2008 @ 11:48pm
"a national day of action to let the candidates, and the country, know that they're ready to start transitioning to a green economy."

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness."

FACTS - TRUTH '08

THE SUN. IT'S HOT!

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/25/2008 @ 11:57pm
Posted by SooHAPPY at 09/25/2008 @ 11:00pm

grow your own food.

grow food for your neighbour.

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/25/2008 @ 11:58pm
food towers...vertical agriculture...

Posted by dexter666 at 09/26/2008 @ 12:00am
re-zoning initiatives in suburbia allowing limited small business within walking distance of homes.

Posted by dexter666 at 09/26/2008 @ 12:01am
Parselane better be a hearty plant if I'm gonna try to grow it.

Posted by Benchrest at 09/26/2008 @ 12:03am
purslane grows in the cracks in the sidewalk.

http://blog.nutritiondata.com/photos/uncategorized/20

07/07/30/purslane.jpg

hey, i bet sarah palin smoked purslane.

it is known as pigweed, after all....

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/26/2008 @ 12:06am
that's right ibbs.

why do we have to drive 13.7 kms in order to save 23% on something made in farawaylandia?

because of inflation, that's why.

in our quest for credit, we've outpriced ourselves.

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/26/2008 @ 12:09am
and the list is growing.

<<<<>>>>

2008.09.21

bloc quebecois 8

stephen harper's locos 37

green party!!!! 12

old school liberals 24

socialist lite guys 19

±1.8

Ekos Research Associates

five parties!

12 per cent!

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/26/2008 @ 12:14am
block parties

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R6S5CJWlco&fmt=18

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/26/2008 @ 12:16am
town hall meetings,

well,

we know mr. obama won't be there......

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/26/2008 @ 12:16am
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/26/2008 @ 12:09am | ignore this person | warn this person

localism...community retro-engineering...

we live so wastefully.

ultimately green food towers allowing thousands of acres of farmland and semirural sprawl to return to forest and wildland while increasing food supply...

Posted by dexter666 at 09/26/2008 @ 12:20am
"poetry"

you hate america!

<<<<>>>>

The Planet On The Table

Ariel was glad he had written his poems. •• They were of a remembered time •• Or of something seen that he liked.

Other makings of the sun •• Were waste and welter •• And the ripe shrub writhed.

His self and the sun were one •• And his poems, although makings of his self, •• Were no less makings of the sun.

It was not important that they survive. •• What mattered was that they should bear •• Some lineament or character,

Some affluence, if only half-perceived, •• In the poverty of their words, •• Of the planet of which they were part.

Wallace Stevens

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/26/2008 @ 12:25am
Just fulfilled an old ambition. I acquired a famous cast iron Norwegian wood stove for $100. Time & patience & I now have a stove that we too can call our "companion", like Charlie Sheeler, the great artist & photographer addressed his own iron monster. Who needs TV when you've got a wood stove. Good bye oil heat. Gee, hope I don't hurt the economy too much.

Posted by Sorelish at 09/26/2008 @ 12:25am
"purslane grows in the cracks in the sidewalk."

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/26/2008 @ 12:06am

Well, now that I know how to spell it, and it grows in sidewalk cracks, I think I may have a shot.

Posted by Benchrest at 09/26/2008 @ 12:27am
The Peace of Wild Things

When despair grows in me

and I wake in the middle of the night at the least sound

in fear of what my life and my children's lives may be,

I go and lie down where the wood drake

rests in his beauty on the water, and the great heron feeds.

I come into the peace of wild things

who do not tax their lives with forethought

of grief. I come into the presence of still water.

And I feel above me the day-blind stars

waiting for their light. For a time

I rest in the grace of the world, and am free.

Wendell Berry

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/26/2008 @ 12:38am
find someone who's got a clean garden and ask them if you can help pull out the weeds (purslane).

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/26/2008 @ 12:53am
frikkin' hippie looneys.

"Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal."

"I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: 'We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal."

"the sun. it's hot."

[i don't really see how they relate, but it sounds cool.]

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/26/2008 @ 12:57am
"put on a friggin' sweater, dumbbats"

james earl carter.

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/26/2008 @ 01:01am
Hey FZ,

Glad to see that you've decided to return --well before November!

I couldn't quite figure out what set you off on --what was it-- Friday night Sept. 12th?

Anyhoo, between the Sarah Palin blessings from a witch hunter video that appeared on MSNBC Wednesday (and here at The Nation today), McCain's stammering refusal to "debate" on Friday night, and Palin's unbelievably stoopid sound bites with Couric, babbling about Putin having to fly through Alaskan air space to get to the U.S. etc...

Ya ' gotta love the entertainment factor.

Never underestimate the broad stupidity of a large swath of the American electorate, but I'm thinkin' that McCain has officially abandoned the so-called straight talk express for a campaign zeppelin, complete with a helium voiced flight attendant named Palin.

Before we make it to November 4th, this puppy is gonna be crispy crittered.

The only question now is, who or what will provide the spark.

Hittin' the rack soon.

Peace.

Posted by b_kool_66 at 09/26/2008 @ 01:29am
While I agree there are incremental steps that can be taken to improve our stewardship of the environment, there is little or nothing today that is going to have the impact a coherent energy policy and vision provides. The answer to this lies in the political center and that is why this as well as the economic problem we face is so difficult to repair. Our politics at the government level is too polarized. As someone that clings to their religion and guns, I do believe in country first. Unfortunately, I believe that for most of our elected officials it is party first(regardless of party).

By the way Peter, I am a new reader. I was reading the introduction to yourself, "Your guide to expressing informed dissent to war, racism, sexism, environmental degradation and market-based solutions to social problems."

Hmmmm, sounds a bit arrogant and/or elitist. Meaning no disrespect, I appreciate your offer to be my guide but I am confident I can come to my own conclusions. Thank you.

Posted by independentthinker316 at 09/26/2008 @ 01:37am
"And I feel above me the day-blind stars

waiting for their light. For a time

I rest in the grace of the world, and am free. "

Excellent.

Whenever I'm feeling particularly low about the absurdity of our political reality, I am most comforted by the thought of a vast universe that dwarfs the madness here on this speck of flotsam we call Earth.

Thanks, FZ.

Posted by b_kool_66 at 09/26/2008 @ 01:40am
Posted by independentthinker316

Well, welcome aboard in spite of the spiteful entry.

Have you had a chance to read this one yet?

tinyurl.com/4ezuta

An interview with the author is here:

tinyurl.com/5ufwbp

Just thought I'd show ya' the good stuff.

Again, welcome aboard.

Posted by b_kool_66 at 09/26/2008 @ 01:47am
Hey FZ, Glad to see that you've decided to return --well before November! I couldn't quite figure out what set you off on --what was it-- Friday night Sept. 12th?

Posted by b_kool_66 at 09/26/2008 @ 01:29am

what do you mean?

it's november.

the palin inanity made me loco!

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/26/2008 @ 01:49am
uh, bcool,

helium is inert.

and hydrogen is too expensive ;+]

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/26/2008 @ 01:50am
Hmmmm, sounds a bit arrogant and/or elitist. Meaning no disrespect, I appreciate your offer to be my guide but I am confident I can come to my own conclusions. Thank you.

Posted by independentthinker316 at 09/26/2008 @ 01:37am

peter's cool.

he guides us.

we guide him.

even mask (heheh; sorry peter :+])

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/26/2008 @ 01:52am
plus, he wears sweaters!

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/26/2008 @ 01:53am
Whenever I'm feeling particularly low about the absurdity of our political reality, I am most comforted by the thought of a vast universe that dwarfs the madness here on this speck of flotsam we call Earth.

Thanks, FZ.

Posted by b_kool_66 at 09/26/2008 @ 01:40am

imagine neptunian elections.

talk about cold.....

all blue states, however.

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/26/2008 @ 01:55am
uh, bcool,

helium is inert.

~I know, but it's not a particularly valid option to call someone "hydrogen voiced".

imagine neptunian elections.

talk about cold.....

~And the wind, my god, the wi-i-i-i-i-i..........

Posted by b_kool_66 at 09/26/2008 @ 02:00am
it is in palin's case.

actually, she's more methyl chloride voiced.

∫∫∫∫∫∫∫∫∫

Chloromethane, also called Methyl chloride, R-40 or HCC 40, is a chemical compound of the group of organic compounds called haloalkanes.

It was once widely used as a refrigerant.

It is a colorless extremely flammable gas

with a slightly sweet odor,

which is, however,

detected at possibly toxic levels.

Due to concerns about its toxicity, it is no longer present in consumer products.

Methyl chloride was first synthesized by the French chemists Jean-Baptiste Dumas and Eugene Peligot in 1835 by boiling a mixture of methanol,

sulfuric acid,

and sodium chloride.

This method is similar to that used today.

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/26/2008 @ 02:10am
Just to clarify, much of my edjoo-mication is in chemistry, biology and geology.

And the obligatory alco-ma-hol, of course.

Posted by b_kool_66 at 09/26/2008 @ 02:12am
Good timing on that post!

Posted by b_kool_66 at 09/26/2008 @ 02:13am
Hey FZ,

Check out this letter I sent to the local paper --that I'm currently in a battle to get published over some ridiculous technicality b.s. :

On a placid, beautiful evening last Wednesday I took a casual stroll in the downtown area.

I ambled along steeply diving Lyon street hill into the last embers of sunset, and was unexpectedly swallowed by a swarm of well-dressed folks just then pouring from the Ford Fieldhouse. Their prefab signs featured, "McCain-Palin" and "Country First", as they wended their way downhill past a smaller, much more raucous band facing them from behind a sidewalk barrier.

This was a motley crew, some baring prefab signs portraying John McCain in slumped embrace of George Bush. Many more with homemade signs exclaiming, "THINK outside the Bun", and a slew of anti-war slogans, as well as angry slogans related to an increasingly outsourced and brutal economy.

My mind flashed to the brilliant new tour de force book I had just finished by conservative scholar and retired Army colonel, Andrew Bacevich. Entitled, "The Limits of Power", in 180 sharply crackling pages, Bacevich proclaims that we have morphed into a comfortable, profligate society that contentedly allows 0.5 % of us to bear the burden of military service, the core feature of which is to enable our prodigious appetites --a sobering interview of Mr. Bacevich is available online at the Bill Moyers Journal archive from August 15th.

In that twilight's last gleaming, I pondered which crowd more admirably animated the phrase, "the land of the free, and the home of the brave."

~Not to blow me own horn so much, but I like my letter pretty well, and it is pretty annoying to have to battle the local fishwrap to get it published.

But kinda fun to get into a Monty Pythonesque debate with

Posted by b_kool_66 at 09/26/2008 @ 02:17am
those bozos.

:D

Posted by b_kool_66 at 09/26/2008 @ 02:17am
G'night........

Posted by b_kool_66 at 09/26/2008 @ 02:26am
"the land of the free, and the home of the brave."

Posted by b_kool_66 at 09/26/2008 @ 02:17am

i think both factions mean well.

education is the key.

let the facts be the truth and the truth be the facts.

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/26/2008 @ 02:52am
HEY BCOOL, CHECK <B>THIS</B> OUT:

Hillary Clinton to visit Grand Rapids Central High School on Saturday afternoon

by The Grand Rapids Press

Thursday September 25, 2008, 10:40 PM

GRAND RAPIDS -- Hillary Clinton will appear Saturday at Grand Rapids Central High School to support Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama, Kent County party leaders said.

The New York senator is set to appear about 3:30 p.m. on the high school's lawn along Fountain Street NE.

The stop is one of three in Michigan for Clinton, who also will visit the Lansing and Flint areas.

The Obama campaign has said Clinton will focus on economic issues and the steps the candidate would take to turn around the state's faltering economy.

SEE IF YOU CAN ASK THE GOOD SENATOR ABOUT "THE BAILOUT!".......

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/26/2008 @ 02:57am
wtf??????

is this really ms. palin?

wtf??????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-4xfdyccHg&fmt=18&fmt=18

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8fSe27iloU&fmt=18

god is cool and all,

but that is really, really creepy.

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/26/2008 @ 03:37am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq1shD4mK18&feature=related&fmt=18

with transcript........

creepy.

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/26/2008 @ 03:48am
Serving Haines and Klukwan since 1966

Volume XXXVIII Number 37, Sept. 18, 2008

Roadkill garter snake could be 1st in Alaska

Snakes in Alaska? Scientists for decades have debated the prospect. The latest piece of evidence may have come in from Small Tracts Road.

The eight-inch serpent isn't an auspicious specimen. Crushed by a car and found on the shoulder of the road, it's dry, discolored and missing most of its skull.

But stored in a freezer at Haines High, it's soon to be headed to the collections department of the University of Alaska-Fairbanks, with a genetic sample to be tested in Texas.

Haines herpetologist Tim Shields collected the roadkill reported by pedestrian Bev Schupp Aug. 18 and said it could be a significant find.

"It could be the first vouchered specimen of a snake in Alaska," he said Tuesday.

EGAD! IT'S STARTED!

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/26/2008 @ 04:02am
Katie Couric: As we stand before this august building and institution, what do you see as the role of the United States in the world?

Sarah Palin: I see the United States as being a force for good in the world. And as Ronald Reagan used to talk about, America being the beacon of light and hope for those who are seeking democratic values and tolerance and freedom. I see our country being able to represent those things that can be looked to … as that leadership, that light needed across the world.

SEE MASK, FROSTWIN'S LAW.

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/26/2008 @ 04:08am
Hmmmm, sounds a bit arrogant and/or elitist. Meaning no disrespect, I appreciate your offer to be my guide but I am confident I can come to my own conclusions. Thank you.

Posted by independentthinker316 at 09/26/2008 @ 01:37am | ignore this person | warn this person

i have accepted peter's offer to be my guide and have proudly eschewed any and all semblance to such silly notions as "critical thought" and "independant thinking" and any such claptrap nonsense...

life is too hectic to devote valuable brainpower to such incomprehensible voodo as "politics" and "the economy" so i just mind my own business, never miss an episode of american idol or two and a half men, religiously run my weekly maddenfest, and outsource all my politikin' thought to peter, who is indeed the most likely to respond to us blog response pit fiends...

at least under his own name.

so to sum up...

peter is a really great guy and i always agree with him, ask "how high" when he says "jump" and memorize every blog entry he taps out...they are gold mines of progressive talking points to be mindlessly and semi-coherently bandied about in coffee shop broohahas...

who has time to think independently these days???

pfffft!

Posted by dexter666 at 09/26/2008 @ 08:40am
Posted by independentthinker316 at 09/26/2008 @ 01:37am | ignore this person | warn this person

i also cling to my gun and religion.

in the first case there are WAY too many rightwing wackos with guns for me to even consider not "packin".

in the second case...well...thats just my business and without this much ballyhoo'd faith thingy i'd have thrown my arms up and thrown myself under a train long ago...but again, thats my "cross"...or wheel...

Posted by dexter666 at 09/26/2008 @ 08:45am
Two points-

1. Ever notice how quickly a Peter Rothberg thread goes off-topic? Might have something to do with my #2 point.

2. PETER, ya know I loves ya, but...."TENS of thousands"? How about in the interest of honesty (and I'm not accusing), you post a rare "POST-game" thread and tell us what the turn out actually turns out to be.

If it actualy is 20,000 or more....I'll apologize. But that's the actual definition of "TENS of thousands" (Not just 10,000) and I....don't think it's going to be that high, even nation-wide.

Happy to be proven wrong....but just a suspicion.

Posted by Maskdelta at 09/26/2008 @ 09:08am
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point #2? think you brainfarted. must be on other thread...

but yeah - peter's blog responsees do seem to careen off track most quickly. i think its because his entries are more of a call for action, based on certain assumptions and realities, that don't really lend themselves to long arguments, rants and screeds...

although with us i guess anything can lend itself to the above...

other than one of the aris to me and katrina's persecution of you, peter is the only editor here with the huevos to wallow in the pits of hell from time to time, at least under his own name...

and thusly do i subcontract all political/social/economic cogitation, rumination, and analysis to peter and peter alone. next to barack obama, i guess you could say the man is my god!!!!

lol - keep up the good work peter and i'll keep watching the stars and playing my video games and dreaming of champagne and caviar on the riviera...

hee hee ha ha...

Posted by dexter666 at 09/26/2008 @ 09:33am
Posted by dexter666 at 09/26/2008 @ 09:33am

Well, my point, IBB, was that they seem to go off-topic quickly because...

a lot of these protests of PETER's turn out to be a lot less "exciting" than he plays them upto be and we all know it.

Again, I am HAPPY (no, not him) to be proven wrong....but I just don't see "TENS of thousands" turning out tomorrow. Maybe TEN (10,000) total...nation-wide.

But seriously, is that really THAT big a "protest"??!??!? Over 50 states, 3000 miles by 2000 miles, and "tens of thousands" of cities???

Posted by Maskdelta at 09/26/2008 @ 10:11am
Posted by Maskdelta at 09/26/2008 @ 10:11am | ignore this person | warn this person

oh yeah. sure.

but then i think what he's aiming for is precisely the overlooked stuff.

i would like to suggest more follow-up on his part in terms of the issues and organizations he advocates...

i'd also like to see some coverage of good and profitable corporate citizens. i know the bad guys, but perhaps an occasional spotlight on the good corporate entities would not suck...and serve in some small measure as positive reinforcement...and tips for smart, progressive investment...

Posted by dexter666 at 09/26/2008 @ 10:39am
Interview of Margaret Sanger by Mike Wallace -- 21 September, 1957

...

WALLACE: Do you feel that Birth Control is essential to keep millions of people across the world from starving?

SANGER: Well, I think that Birth Control--if you keep the population more or less static until you pick up your resources, certainly you'll-- keep--prevent their starving.

....

SANGER: I think the greatest sin in the world is bringing children into the world--that have disease from their parents, that have no chance in the world to be a human being practically. Delinquents, prisoners, all sorts of things just marked when they're born. That to me is the greatest sin -- that people can -- can commit..

.....

WALLACE: These few seconds at the end of the interview are among the most enjoyable of the week for me. For much as I enjoy smoking during the interview with Mrs. Sanger, I believe I enjoy this cigarette most right now...of course Philip Morris is easy to enjoy and the taste is natural -- there's mildness here too. Today's Philip Morris has what I call a man's kind of mildness-- there's no filter no fooling no artificial mildness, because there is nothing between you and the tobacco itself. Which is why I say get with Philip Morris, probably the best natural smoke you ever tasted.

Posted by HonestLiberal at 09/26/2008 @ 11:02am
WALLACE: These few seconds at the end of the interview are among the most enjoyable of the week for me. For much as I enjoy smoking during the interview with Mrs. Sanger, I believe I enjoy this cigarette most right now...of course Philip Morris is easy to enjoy and the taste is natural -- there's mildness here too. Today's Philip Morris has what I call a man's kind of mildness-- there's no filter no fooling no artificial mildness, because there is nothing between you and the tobacco itself. Which is why I say get with Philip Morris, probably the best natural smoke you ever tasted.

Posted by HonestLiberal at 09/26/2008 @ 11:02am | ignore this person | warn this person

ah...a MAN'S kind of mildness...

sounds irresistable...addictively irresistable...

Posted by dexter666 at 09/26/2008 @ 11:16am
Posted by HonestLiberal at 09/26/2008 @ 11:02am

I'm always curious about these Righties who bring up Margaret Sanger...

on the one hand they post this outrageous "See? See? See what advocates of birth control are all about?" stuff...

but then you ask them "So you oppose contraception?" and they suddenly get all "nuanced" and "vague" and say "No, all I'm saying is Sanger was a nut!"....

so what's the point of this stuff?!?!?!?

Posted by Maskdelta at 09/26/2008 @ 11:35am
Posted by dexter666 at 09/26/2008 @ 11:16am

Ah yes, brings back memories of me sitting with two of my uncles on an old couch in that now disappeared old shingled house, listening to Arthur Godfrey on the radio, the second hand smoke rising from the strong unfiltered cigarettes, like incense in a Zen temple. Dreams of the fishing rods in a corner of the bedroom, an old dresser drawer full of reels and tackle & pool hall tokens & such. A kid dreaming of the long, long drive, on a road high over the big lake to our own creek (crick) filled with Eastern Brook trout & known to us as Louie & Fred creek. There would be pine bough beds for the new 8.00 sleeping bag & bacon & eggs for breakfast & Fritz would clean the fish. We'd all gaze at stars at night & watch for shooting stars. Never once did we see another person within ten miles of that creek. It was "ours".

Posted by Sorelish at 09/26/2008 @ 12:31pm
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lol - or my dear mom sitting in the car, windows rolled up, puffing away...and me gagging when i got in...heehee...

perhaps i was addicted long before i started...

Posted by dexter666 at 09/26/2008 @ 2:20pm
Fortunately, as early as 7th Grade, I came up with the motto....

"I only smoke....when I'm on fire!"

My dad quit when I was 6 months old, never smoked again, and TO THIS DAY says he still gets a hankering for a cig!

Posted by Maskdelta at 09/26/2008 @ 3:59pm
The answer to this lies in the political center and that is why this as well as the economic problem we face is so difficult to repair.The answer to this lies in the political center and that is why this as well as the economic problem we face is so difficult to repair. Posted by independentthinker316 at 09/26/2008 @ 01:37am

Only to a certain degree is this true. The solutions to our converting over will be created by engineers and others who come up with the ideas to change over. You are correct that if the government was the center point of this, it could be organized in a much better fashion and research for such things would be funded better, but innovation for green technology is ahead of the private sector as well as the government.

Posted by Wolfgang1 at 09/26/2008 @ 4:58pm
god is cool and all,

but that is really, really creepy.

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/26/2008 @ 03:37am

Frosty, if that creeps you out then stay out of Christian churches. I saw nothing in that video different from my own services I conduct or that of 1000's of churches I have been in. that was pretty standard stuff.

Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/26/2008 @ 6:23pm
that creeps you out then stay out of Christian churches. I saw nothing in that video different from my own services I conduct or that of 1000's of churches I have been in. that was pretty standard stuff.-----Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/26/2008 @ 6:23pm

Pauline Kael after Nixon won in '72---

"I don't understand how he won, nobody I KNOW voted for him!"

Posted by Maskdelta at 09/26/2008 @ 7:59pm
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/26/2008 @ 03:37am | ignore this person | warn this person

heehee...yeah. and don't get me wrong - i hope that video and stuff gets out and viral because i DO think it will creep out most average schmos...

in larry's defense, as a bad buddhist i have participated in ceremonies that would appear bizarre to outsiders...

like when my father passed on, i brought a picture of him and i, and some valued possesion of him. we then, after some blessed mumbo jumbo, took some black sesame seeds and arranged them to look like a scorpion, which represented his bad karma. then chanting mantras, we picked up the sesame seeds, using our thumbs and pinkies, and litlle by little, burned his "bad karma" in a votive candle...

pure magic, and magical thinking. i found the ritual extremely satisfying and effective, so this magic worked for me. what the heck her witch hunting, channelling magic means to her and about her i do not really know...

but i DO hope this keeps getting circulated and talked about because it IS kinda creepy looking.

Posted by dexter666 at 09/27/2008 @ 11:40am
Posted by b_kool_66 at 09/26/2008 @ 02:12am

LOL .... on edgimicashun me too: http://tinyurl.com/3l6xml

started out as a bio major many moons ago and wandered around the Natural sciences. Nearly done with my Doctorate in Organic Geochem (that pesky dissertation thing dontcha know)

Posted by Sorelish at 09/26/2008 @ 12:31pm

Wow .. how positively "Aldo Leopold" .. cool

Posted by leftofcenter at 09/27/2008 @ 5:45pm
1. Ever notice how quickly a Peter Rothberg thread goes off-topic? Might have something to do with my #2 point.

Posted by Maskdelta at 09/26/2008 @ 09:08am

that's not true. and to prove my point i'd like to talk to you about tweetle beetles.

When tweetle beetles fight, its called a tweetle beetle battle.

And when they battle in a puddle, its a tweetle beetle puddle battle.

AND when tweetle beetles battle with paddles in a puddle, they call it a tweetle beetle puddle paddle battle. AND . . .

When beetles battle beetles in a puddle paddle battle and the beetle battle puddle is a puddle in a bottle . . .

. . . they call this a tweetle beetle bottle puddle paddle battle muddle. AND . . .

When beetles fight these battles in a bottle with their paddles and the bottle's on a poodle and the poodle's eating noodles . . .

. . . they call this a muddle puddle tweetle poodle beetle noodle bottle paddle battle. AND . . .

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/28/2008 @ 03:29am
Frosty, if that creeps you out then stay out of Christian churches. I saw nothing in that video different from my own services I conduct or that of 1000's of churches I have been in. that was pretty standard stuff.

Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/26/2008 @ 6:23pm

all i've ever gotten is wine and crackers....

oh, and i got to sing!

Posted by frosty zoom at 09/28/2008 @ 03:31am
Thanks, LOC Life before the nation went on speed!

Posted by Sorelish at 09/29/2008 @ 11:54am