What About Sarah?

posted by Peter Rothberg on 09/19/2008 @ 2:24pm

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Sarah Palin's credentials have been widely called into question since the 44-year old governor of Alaska was named by John McCain as his vice presidential running mate. The McCain camp's spirited defense of Palin has been alternately defensive, offensive, contradictory and amusing.

At a recent town hall meeting in Michigan, Palin was questioned about her foreign policy credentials. In typical Palin style, she dodged the question by answering, "I'll be ready. I have that confidence."

On reflection, the Sarah Palin Lies Debunked blog reports, the McCain camp must have realized how ridiculous that sounded and decided to supplement her response because the next day, campaign spokesperson Tracey Schmitt offered the following experiences that Palin would bring to the table on foreign policy:

"As the Governor of one of our largest energy producing states, Governor Sarah Palin is uniquely qualified to speak to one of the most pressing foreign policy issues of our time; achieving independence from foreign oil. She is Governor of the only state with two international borders – a land border with Canada and a maritime border with Russia. She has executive experience, has promoted trade of Alaskan products to over 100 foreign destinations and met with dozens of international trade delegations. Last year she traveled to the Middle East to visit members of the deployed Alaska National Guard troops and she has also visited wounded US troops in Germany."

As the SPL blog writes, "So let's get this straight. Her creditentials are: she resides in an oil-producing state that ships oil overseas and borders Canada by land and Russia by sea. She has traveled to Kuwait to visit the Alaska National Guard and made a stopover in Germany."

Now though it turns out that even McCain has questioned his veep's qualifications. Thanks to my colleague Adam Howard for finding this video of the Republican nominee declaring, in a debate with Mitt Romney on October 7, 2007, that "mayors and governors don't have national security experience." As the Republican candidate declared, "I need no on-the-job training. I wasn't a mayor for a short period of time. I wasn't a governor for a short period of time."

Clearly, Palin had not been on McCain's shortlist for all too long.

Comments (78)

As many flip-flops as old JM has been up to makes me think he's pretty spry for an old guy. Political cartwheels!

Posted by leftofcenter at 09/19/2008 @ 2:31pm
Is that the Palin who said that she is the POTUS candidate and who did not know what town she was in?

Posted by i'm nobody at 09/19/2008 @ 2:33pm
The hypocrisies of the GOP are endless this year...

the fundy/evangeys now EMBRACING "mothers of young children 'abandoning' them to go into the work place"...

or the old Clinton scandal-mongers on the cover-up and stalling of Palin's "Trooper-gate"...by folks who listed Bill Clinton's "Trooper-gate" as one of his top 10 "scandals"....

or now having to eat all their "That's class warfare" talk as McCain talks about the "greed of Wall Street".

Posted by Maskdelta at 09/19/2008 @ 2:35pm
Less than one term is,typically,considered to be a short time especially when you spend your time trying to get revenge for your sister and then spend more time trying to cover that up.

Posted by i'm nobody at 09/19/2008 @ 2:37pm
Is that the Palin who said that she is the POTUS candidate and who did not know what town she was in?

Posted by i'm nobody at 09/19/2008 @ 2:33pm

As someone who travels on almost a weekly basis, I have a hard time remember what particular rental car I'm driving that week or what flor my hotel room number is. I can't fault her for not knowing what town she was in...besides, there's plenty of other issues to fault her on.

Posted by Balrog at 09/19/2008 @ 2:37pm
balrog-It's customary to know where you are if you are trying to get the people who live there to vote for you.And while that may not be a particularly huge thing these sorts of gaffes do add up.

Posted by i'm nobody at 09/19/2008 @ 2:41pm
What a inane thread. A statement made in the primaries about a rival candidate.

Well using that standard then, we should echo Sen Biden that Obama is not qualified to be president.

The Nation is a paragon when it comes to upholding equal standards for both conservative and liberal candidates, right Peter?

Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/19/2008 @ 2:50pm
I think that what McCain meant was that mayors and/or governors are not qualified.

A person who has been both a mayor AND a governor - e.g. Sarah Palin - is obviously well qualified.

For what, J. Boosh McCain has left unsaid.

Posted by skeletonman at 09/19/2008 @ 2:59pm
What Biden said, at some point: "I think he can be ready but right now I don't think he's ready." He was asked to comment on his statement in a primary debate and said "I stand by my statement." This is from a McCain ad, so who knows what the context really was.

What McCain said (from above): "Mayors and governors don't have national security experience ... I need no on-the-job training. I wasn't a mayor for a short period of time. I wasn't a governor for a short period of time."

Note that 1) McCain's statement was much more specific about who is qualified for POTUS, 2) he explicity contradicted himself by choosing an unqualified running mate, and 3) Biden was chosen by the man he criticized, not the other way around.

Biden was more honest and dutiful by far. McCain, true to his signature form, has once again been caught in his own contradictions.

Posted by MyParadigm at 09/19/2008 @ 3:13pm
Sarah Palin may not know what the Bush Doctrine is, but when asked if she agrred with the Monroe Doctrine she nailed it. "Yes," she said, "I strongly agree with the Monroe Doctrine: Diamonds are a girl's best friend!"

Posted by nathanhale at 09/19/2008 @ 3:22pm
There is only one thing at this point that will put McCain/Palin back in the lead. And that's some kind of military emergency. They're already fast-tracking ceremonies to "hand over sovereignty" in regions of Iraq - whatever that really means - and Bush tried to make an issue out of the attack on our embassy in Yemen the other day, to little avail.

As long as Obama avoids some kind of Black Panther moment, and nobody melts down in a debate, he's in.

Oh, what kind of surprise will October bring?

Posted by MyParadigm at 09/19/2008 @ 3:25pm
Is that the Palin who said that she is the POTUS candidate and who did not know what town she was in?

Posted by i'm nobody at 09/19/2008 @ 2:33pm

This again is such nonsense. It does nothing to advance real debate about the issues.

The right is just as wrong as the left when they hype these things.

By your standard then Obama is weird because he:

1. said he was running a 57 state campaign

2. Called Kansas City, St Louis

3. Greeted the people of Sioux Falls as Sioux City

Should we question Obama's mental acuity by the same standard then IM?

BTW-I don't

Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/19/2008 @ 3:29pm
The election is going to be about winning big states. I'm from Michigan. All our football teams suck this year, and I'm sure you've heard about our exemplary big-city mayor. In fact, everything pretty much sucks around here, but we'll be okay once the pinheads on the other side of the state stop voting for the mentally disabled. (Okay, I give, GM and Ford may need to have someone under 90 design their cars too.)

Obama's up by 4 points here. Pay attention people, this is the "change" state this year.

Somebody's doing a "Big Ten" poll - all the states with Big Ten colleges. Real meat and potatoes territory. Obama's up in almost all of them, tied in a couple, down in Indiana (can't be helped), kicking butt in Illinois of course.

Unless something major happens, we're looking at an electoral slam.

Posted by MyParadigm at 09/19/2008 @ 3:41pm
Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/19/2008 @ 3:29pm

I think LL is right...we shouldn't attack candidates for things they say ONCE....but things they say twice.

Such as McCain repeating (and his campaign reiterating as well) that he considers Spain, one of our NATO allies, to "not be a friend of the United States" and that he wouldn't welcome them to Washington.

If he said it once...I'd say ignore it.

Posted by Maskdelta at 09/19/2008 @ 3:42pm
When Obama said he was running a 57 state campaign, he was obviously playing ketchup.

But seriously folks ... this trivia game is going to continue as long as John keeps contradicting himself every other day and Sarah says nothing but rehearsed platitudes.

It's going to be Republicans saying "I just don't know what (s)he stands for ..." in a couple more weeks.

McCain's pulled off comebacks before. But I think he's really out of gas this time.

Posted by MyParadigm at 09/19/2008 @ 3:51pm
lvliberty-Of course,we should judge Obama by the same standards as the other side.That's why I'm having a difficult time deciding if I can vote for him or not..The not knowing where she was gaffe was the more boring one,but the Palin/McCain ticket one was most amusing and quite interesting.

Posted by i'm nobody at 09/19/2008 @ 3:57pm
I think LL is right...we shouldn't attack candidates for things they say ONCE....but things they say twice.

Such as McCain repeating (and his campaign reiterating as well) that he considers Spain, one of our NATO allies, to "not be a friend of the United States" and that he wouldn't welcome them to Washington.

If he said it once...I'd say ignore it.

Posted by Maskdelta at 09/19/2008 @ 3:42pm

Well, right now they are not especially friendly to the US. So why should we pander to a critic?

Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/19/2008 @ 3:58pm
Posted by MyParadigm at 09/19/2008 @ 3:51pm

What I'm wondering is...will McCain take the "final step"?

Go beyond attacking Chris Cox and go..."higher up"...i.e. Dubya himself and directly.

He's already said things like "I warned THIS ADMINISTRATION and this Congress...blah,blah,blah"

And what will LVLIB, PONTI, HAPP, Darin, MAASCH think when "Maverick" returns and starts slamming Bush for ignoring the problems.

"He'd never do it"? ...Probably, but not so sure. He's already swinging WAY to the Center on "we need more regulation" and "greed on Wall Street" (that's DEM talk)...

plus he's got Caribou Barbie to assuage hurt Hard Right feelings AND ...where else can they go, not that the GOP has got them all a'skeered of Obama the "Marxist Muslim America-hater".

Posted by Maskdelta at 09/19/2008 @ 4:00pm
This is just another lame attempt to find Palin's "potato" moment.

MoveOn Peter. Both candidates have fumbled words and stances. These are politicians, for goodness sakes.

Seriously, aren't the nation's readers a little more savvy than this?

Posted by freiheit1 at 09/19/2008 @ 4:03pm
And what will LVLIB, PONTI, HAPP, Darin, MAASCH think when "Maverick" returns and starts slamming Bush for ignoring the problems.

"He'd never do it"? ...Probably, but not so sure. He's already swinging WAY to the Center on "we need more regulation" and "greed on Wall Street" (that's DEM talk)...

plus he's got Caribou Barbie to assuage hurt Hard Right feelings AND ...where else can they go, not that the GOP has got them all a'skeered of Obama the "Marxist Muslim America-hater".

Posted by Maskdelta at 09/19/2008 @ 4:00pm

And so what if he did? Conservatives (and I'm on record here) have been saying for years that we are unhappy with Bush on his fiscal decisions apart from the tax cuts. He has shown that he never really seperated himself from his fathers liberal Rockefeller Republicanism on fiscal policy except taxes.

Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/19/2008 @ 4:07pm
McCain was against it before he was for it.

Just like the rest of his career.

Posted by crabwalk at 09/19/2008 @ 4:14pm
Except when he was for it before he was against it.

Posted by crabwalk at 09/19/2008 @ 4:16pm
Posted by Maskdelta at 09/19/2008 @ 4:00pm

McCain announces, "The President has betrayed the trust of the American people. If I were President today, I would fire the President."

Posted by nathanhale at 09/19/2008 @ 4:18pm
Savvy enough to know that Quayle's "potatoe" moment was a media metaphor for his not-quite-there-ness. A hurdle for him to clear. Which he never did.

But he was there to lock in the base for a waffling candidate, who won (once). That's her role too.

So we'll see if she can hurdle or not. Get used to it.

Posted by MyParadigm at 09/19/2008 @ 4:18pm
Voting for an adulterer and a 44 yr old grandma with star power!

I love the new GOP.

next thing you know they will be favoring socialist bailouts for large corporations instead of " letting the market work".

Posted by crabwalk at 09/19/2008 @ 4:19pm
hey. melber is an official advisor. too kool.

he was good on msnbc just now.

Posted by dexter666 at 09/19/2008 @ 4:22pm
That's funny, I didn't think you were running for national office.

Or maybe you are.

Please clarify, thanks.

Posted by madlib at 09/19/2008 @ 2:58pm

No knowing what town you're in is a non-issue - there's plenty of other, more relevant issus to beat on McCain/Palin.

Posted by Balrog at 09/19/2008 @ 5:14pm
I can't understand why everybody is so worried about what Mccain says there is NO chance he will get to the White House. He will self-destruct by then

Posted by tryba1 at 09/19/2008 @ 5:24pm
When Obama said he was running a 57 state campaign, he was obviously playing ketchup.

Posted by MyParadigm at 09/19/2008 @ 3:51pm

One does wonder why he didn't pick John Kerry's wife as his running mate, however.

Posted by skeletonman at 09/19/2008 @ 5:25pm
I can't understand why everybody is so worried about what Mccain says there is NO chance he will get to the White House. He will self-destruct by then

Posted by tryba1 at 09/19/2008 @ 5:25pm
Note to Peter Rothberg: Please let the Palin thing drop. You want to talk about hypocrisy, try the economic angle.

Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/19/2008 @ 4:07pm

"...we are unhappy with Bush on his fiscal decisions apart from the tax cuts..."

But strangely, love his wars which cost money, a lot of it.

Posted by srjenkins at 09/19/2008 @ 5:25pm
This just in, from the amusing but poorly done science department:

"...new research suggests that people with radically different social attitudes also differ in certain automatic fear responses. Political scientists say the work is evidence that certain attitudes are conditioned by fundamental traits of temperament...liberal and conservative (or "protective") social beliefs are related to individuals' sensitivity to threat."

At last, I understand why conservatvises are always talking about people's feelings, how everything is opinion, and how scary those terrorists are, and how someone - other than them - should be sent to fight them.

I feel your pain, ladies and gents. But wouldn't it be more economical for the government to just pay for free medication?

http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/ cgi/content/full/2008/918/2

Posted by srjenkins at 09/19/2008 @ 5:40pm
Posted by srjenkins at 09/19/2008 @ 5:40pm

I actually read the study; numbers were small (46 respondents) but reasonably well designed.

Confirms what most of us suspected: neo cons are 'fraidy cats.

Posted by skeletonman at 09/19/2008 @ 5:44pm
Yeah, considering that McPOWhowmanyMANSIONS has only been 90% wrong per siding with the worst unitary exec (dic'tator) in USA history, doesn't doing the 50/50 up front contridic'tions-- like totally improve his like being 'right' odds like by 40%?

Posted by hsuBfools at 09/19/2008 @ 6:12pm
Posted by skeletonman at 09/19/2008 @ 5:44pm

Except for the problem that a set of 47 is not one that let's you extrapolate to "conservatives" in general. Still, an interesting article I happened to see on Slashdot that I thought worth sharing here.

Posted by srjenkins at 09/19/2008 @ 6:46pm
Posted by Maskdelta at 09/19/2008 @ 2:35pm

And another hypocrisy, if you've said it I didn't catch it:

Obama's merely a celebrity

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Sarah Palin: conservatives find the girl of their dreams

News Highlights on Extraordinary Sarah Palin Phenomenon

All Palin, All The Time

How Obama lost the election!

Fortunately I had to search the period shortly after the RNC, appears her star's drooping already.

Posted by winyahn at 09/19/2008 @ 7:36pm
And so what if he did? Conservatives (and I'm on record here) have been saying for years that we are unhappy with Bush on his fiscal decisions apart from the tax cuts. He has shown that he never really seperated himself from his fathers liberal Rockefeller Republicanism on fiscal policy except taxes.-----Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/19/2008 @ 4:07pm

McCain now free to attack Bush?

Cool....that, plus Maverick's new love of regulation and talk of "greedy Wall Street" (plus global warming and now a fondness for "women working outside the home who have young children") and, even if he loses?

The Reagan Revolutioon is dead....

killed by John McCain!

Posted by Maskdelta at 09/19/2008 @ 7:51pm
The Reagan Revolutioon is dead....

killed by John McCain!

Posted by Maskdelta at 09/19/2008 @ 7:51pm

Only in your dreams Mask.

Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/19/2008 @ 8:03pm
Posted by Maskdelta at 09/19/2008 @ 7:51pm

I don't know about dead. But, I do think conservatives are going to try to field a Huckabee or a Palin-alike next election cycle, ensuring 8 years of Obama.

Not sure I like the prospect of that, but think it is likely.

Posted by srjenkins at 09/19/2008 @ 8:21pm
Only in your dreams Mask. Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/19/2008 @ 8:03pm

And dreams do become reality sometimes.

Posted by Cccomfo1 at 09/19/2008 @ 8:24pm
palin represents the death of the conservative "movement." once her personal views become well-known, she is doomed, as is her party.

Posted by darladoon at 09/19/2008 @ 8:37pm
Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/19/2008 @ 8:03pm

Oh, okay....hyperbole.

But definitely THIS year, it's on life-support and you've got guys like Dubya and Maverick John trying to get it to sign an "DNR"!

heheh

Posted by Maskdelta at 09/19/2008 @ 8:39pm
"I feel your pain, ladies and gents. But wouldn't it be more economical for the government to just pay for free medication?"

Or at least if there must be compromise on this, allow us to pool resources to get the best price?

Posted by onthehelm at 09/19/2008 @ 10:05pm
You folks are a riot. Just because you don't share the views of about 40% of the population, you think a political philosophy is dead.

The absurdity of the comments is reflected in the reality that even in leftist countries, an opposing conservative party still functions as an effective counter voice.

But most of you show your real arrogance. Even CCC who claimed to not be an extremist wishes to join Darla and others in having only one political view in the nation.

That is totalitarian and reveals the left for what you really are.

Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/19/2008 @ 10:27pm
heard something that details Palin's foreign policy experience.

http://tinyurl.com/4n5m8j

Guess we should all give up and giver the crown .. after all she now thinks its a Palin - McCain ticket

http://tinyurl.com/3e8t6l

LOL

Posted by leftofcenter at 09/19/2008 @ 11:00pm
Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/19/2008 @ 10:27pm |

Well, first, where you get the "40%" from? Last I checked Dubya was at 30% (or less) and if McCain is elected, then a LOT of Republicans (as well as Indies) suddenly are onboard for "more regulations" and "Wall Street is greedy".

Second, I admitted it was hyperbole.

But the ironic thing is, the ones doing the MOST damage to the "Reagan Revolution"...are Republicans. Even if the principles weren't flawed (as de-regulation obviously is now)....it's MCCAIN and BUSH who are talking new regs and employing Government bail-outs...

neither of which is "conservative"!

Posted by Maskdelta at 09/19/2008 @ 11:06pm
Well, first, where you get the "40%" from? Last I checked Dubya was at 30% (or less) and if McCain is elected, then a LOT of Republicans (as well as Indies) suddenly are onboard for "more regulations" and "Wall Street is greedy".

But the ironic thing is, the ones doing the MOST damage to the "Reagan Revolution"...are Republicans. Even if the principles weren't flawed (as de-regulation obviously is now)....it's MCCAIN and BUSH who are talking new regs and employing Government bail-outs...

neither of which is "conservative"!

Posted by Maskdelta at 09/19/2008 @ 11:06pm

Bush has the 30% because even conservatives disagree with the way he has handled a number of issues. People like John Maasch, Darin, and myself have made that consistently clear. We approve of a number of things Bush has done. But we also disagree with a number of things he has done.

Summarizing what many conservatives think, some he lost over not being more aggressive on spending, some because he didn't prosecute the war more aggressively, some because they don't think he has done enough on social issues like abortion and homosexual marriage.

This line of reasoning betrays your own lack of capacity to examine issues beyond your own leftwing viewpoint.

And as to McCain and new regs, you are distorting what McCain said.

He didn't call for more regs, but clarity on our regulations and enforcement.

"We need to enhance regulatory clarity by holding the same financial activity to one regulatory standard. We don't need a dozen federal agencies doing the job badly -- we need the best federal agencies to do the job right.

believe the deep problems afflicting our financial system won't be solved by one political party.'

From McCain's speech today in Green Bay WI

Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/19/2008 @ 11:33pm
Serious question LV:

How does Ron Paul square with the Reagan Revolution?

How about others, like Newt, Trent Lott, or Frist?

Posted by winyahn at 09/19/2008 @ 11:47pm
Serious question LV:

How does Ron Paul square with the Reagan Revolution?

How about others, like Newt, Trent Lott, or Frist?

Posted by winyahn at 09/19/2008 @ 11:47pm

Well Ron Paul has his positives except he is too much of an isolationist. He is too eager to disengage completely from the rest of the world and that is just not feasible today.

Newt, is in some ways to the left of Reagan, but is a brilliant student of history as a Dr of History should be. He is bright yet flawed, but certainly more conservative in the mode of Reagan than Lott or Frist.

Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/19/2008 @ 11:51pm
you know if barack had made a comment like this, the GOP would be on like stink on shit. and lvliberty, as for verbal gaffes, how bout the fact that mccain didn't know the president of spain, and referred to it as "latin america"? since when is spain (which is in europe for those of you following along) in either of the americas? and this from a guy who touts himself on national security? kinda seems like one of those things you should know huh? chalk it up to a "senior moment" i guess.

even though it's off subject, the failing economy is going to be the final nail in the coffin for the mccain/palin ticket. but that's a different thread.

Posted by jsingleton361 at 09/20/2008 @ 02:42am
you know if barack had made a comment like this, the GOP would be on like stink on shit. and lvliberty, as for verbal gaffes, how bout the fact that mccain didn't know the president of spain, and referred to it as "latin america"? since when is spain (which is in europe for those of you following along) in either of the americas? and this from a guy who touts himself on national security? kinda seems like one of those things you should know huh? chalk it up to a "senior moment" i guess.

Posted by jsingleton361 at 09/20/2008 @ 02:42am

it's been addressed on another thread. It's a bogus story. I listened to the interview and it's just not the truth about him not knowing the president of Spain. Even the interviewer has responded when asked that she didn't take it that way.

Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/20/2008 @ 04:06am
I'm anxious to see how my party is going to pivot it's way out of this one. - senile old hero and a pathological liar. wow!

Posted by lachatte at 09/20/2008 @ 09:13am
What exactly is the constitutional duty of a president in the areas of abortion and homosexuality? These are social issues, issues that should be left to the individual in a free society, not mandated from above.

Or have I gotten the wrong side of this "freedom first" less guvt regulation philosophy? Not surprising to read this from an alleged conservative, considering the so-called "free marketeers" have nationalized the brokerage industry in order to benefit the few, while ignoring the healthcare crisis in this country.

Is there anything other than Mary Cheneys bedroom antics that you clowns won't flip flop on?

Posted by crabwalk at 09/20/2008 @ 09:50am
Posted by lachatte at 09/20/2008 @ 09:13am

The two most popular games in the McCain "Straight Talk Express" are:

Sit and Spin

Twister

Left leg green, right leg against socialism, left arm around Caribou Barbie, right arm out for the tax payer socialized bailout of the contributors.

Posted by crabwalk at 09/20/2008 @ 09:53am
You folks are a riot. Just because you don't share the views of about 40% of the population, you think a political philosophy is dead.----Posted by lvliberty1 at 09/19/2008 @ 10:27pm

Well, if you say....I'll just be glad to accept that YOU accept you're in the minority.

Posted by Maskdelta at 09/20/2008 @ 09:55am
Children should be with a Mother and Father, if one is gone they should remain with the other...unless it is Elian.

A marriage is a sacred union and the guvt has no business interfering... unless one is Terry Shaivo

socialism and nationalization are bad economic policy.... unless one of your contributors made poor financial decisions, then $700,000,000,000 is a good start

Teen sex is an absolute no-no, unless that teen is the daughter of a moosehunting babe.

Experience is the most important qualification for the person a heartbeat away from the presidency...unless that person is pro-gun, anti-choice and goes to the right church.

Seeing UFO's disqualifies a person from serious consideration... but attanding a church were they talkee in tongues is "mainstream".

We can do anything to stop terrorism, including spy on Americans, blow up villages, kidnap innocent people... unless those terrorists are a part of The Army of God, then we have to tread lightly.

"gun control is being able to hit your target"... unless one is a VP hunting and drinking from a limousine (which an only "elitist" would do!)

We don't want no elitists running our country... except for the chick in the three hundred thousand dollar outfit or the one in $375 dollar glass frames.

If you question Bush policy you are an America Hater... if you belong to a secessionist movement you should get a bedroom in the VP residence.

If your minister says God will Damn America for it's all to real sins against African, then you are an America Hater... if your minister says God will punish America for it's homosexuals then you are a "real Christian".

We should not put up with a gold digging democrat in the WH, but a gold digging adulterer from the side of the party of Family Values is OK.

Posted by crabwalk at 09/20/2008 @ 10:13am
Flip flop in under 30 seconds

HANNITY: The news today brings a clear foreign policy victory for the Bush administration. But will the press report it that way? Joining us now for analysis, former ambassador to the U.N. and a Fox News contributor, John Bolton. What do you think this means?

BOLTON: I think it's actually a clear victory for North Korea. They gain enormous political legitimacy…In return, we get precious little. I think this is North Korea demonstrating again that they can out-negotiate the U.S. without raising a sweat.

HANNITY: Boy I tell you they've done it time and time again, and I'm sorta perplexed, Mr. Ambassador, to understand why we keep going back to the well knowing that they haven't kept the agreements in the past. Whatever happened to Reagan's "trust but verify"?

Posted by crabwalk at 09/20/2008 @ 10:16am
Michelle Obama is an elitist, who cares that both the Obamas gave up lucrative careers in law to pursue political issues that concern them...

whereas the McCains andBush's are salt of the Earth types

Laura Bush

Oscar de la Renta suit: $2,500 Stuart Weitzman heels: $325 Pearl stud earrings: $600 to $1,500 Total: Between $3,425 and $4,325

Cindy McCain

Oscar de la Renta dress: $3,000 Chanel J12 White Ceramic Watch: $4,500 Three-carat diamond earrings: $280,000 Four-strand pearl necklace: $11,000 to $25,000 Shoes, unknown designer: $600 Total: Between $299,100 and $313,100

Posted by crabwalk at 09/20/2008 @ 10:18am
I guess the fundamental statement about Sarah Palins VP candidacy is:

She and McCain were against it before they were for it.

so much for "fixed convictions", eh LRJONES?

So much for a "free Market", eh SooHAPPY?

So much for "experience", eh SJCHERMAK?

So much for Family Values, eh LUVSLIBERTY?

So much for the fight against "socialism". eh JOMMAMA?

All of those words you have typed for the last year mean nothing now. Why? God and guns.

Posted by crabwalk at 09/20/2008 @ 10:26am
remember you heard it from me, stinking corpse around McCain's neck.

Posted by emile duBois at 09/20/2008 @ 10:30am
"What is it exactly that a VP does everyday"- Sarah Palin

"mayors and governors don't have national security experience."-John McCain

"Evangelicals are ecstatic about McCains pick for Vice President"- LUVSLIBERTY1

Posted by crabwalk at 09/20/2008 @ 10:35am
Jamie Lynn Spears pregnancy is the fault of poor parenting.

Bristol Palins pregnancy has nothing to do with parenting.

Posted by crabwalk at 09/20/2008 @ 10:39am
Polls don't matter.

McCain is up in the polls!!

Polls don't matter.

Posted by crabwalk at 09/20/2008 @ 10:45am
"A changing environment will affect Alaska more than any other state, because of our location. I'm not one though who would attribute it to being man-made."- Sarah Palin August 28, 2008

"I'm not an Al Gore, doom-and-gloom environmentalist blaming the changes in our climate on human activity."-Sarah Palin 2007

"Show me where I have ever said that there's absolute proof that nothing that man has ever conducted or engaged in has had any effect or no effect on climate change. I have not said that." the NEW Sarah Palin, fixed in her convictions, Sept 2008

Posted by crabwalk at 09/20/2008 @ 10:48am
Phew!

Gettin' tired, but not even started on the flip-floppin', spinmeister hypocrisy of the Palin/McCain Straight Talk Express that will keep us safe from the elitist, flip flopping, America Hating, Washington insider/newcomer to Washington, Mooselum/wrong Christian celebrity........

Posted by crabwalk at 09/20/2008 @ 10:53am
remember you heard it from me, stinking corpse around McCain's neck. Posted by emile duBois at 09/20/2008 @ 10:30am |

Nothing in the Bible about necrophilia, thanatophilia and necrolagnia !

Posted by crabwalk at 09/20/2008 @ 10:56am
Posted by winyahn at 09/19/2008 @ 11:47pm

Take a look at the discussion between Old Right and New Right on Wikipedia. I think that will answer your question.

Posted by srjenkins at 09/20/2008 @ 2:51pm
Posted by crabwalk at 09/20/2008 @ 10:48am

"I just think it's God hugging us closer"----Tina Fey as Sarah Palin.

LOL

Posted by Maskdelta at 09/20/2008 @ 7:50pm
Posted by RedRiver_. at 09/20/2008 @ 9:30pm

Cut & Pasting and not citing your source is plagiarism, RIO/RED....

which is particularly ironic given the usual Right-wing attack on Joe Biden!

LOL

Posted by Maskdelta at 09/20/2008 @ 10:10pm
Biden's a great patriot, would make a great president.

Middle East peace has a chance under an Obama-Biden administration. And this would help us re-establish moral leadership, as powerful a military asset as our stealth bombers or aircraft carriers.

Posted by winyahn at 09/20/2008 @ 10:56pm
Am I allowed in again?

Posted by crabwalk at 09/21/2008 @ 09:34am
Censored?

Posted by crabwalk at 09/21/2008 @ 09:40am
Hmmm, cannot post as Crabwalk, when logged in as crab none of my posts show up. But, when I re-signed up as FAH I can see crabs posts.

?????

Posted by fullyarmedhippy at 09/21/2008 @ 09:47am
ahhh, operator error.

had myself on ignore!!

hehehehe

moron.

Posted by crabwalk at 09/21/2008 @ 09:58am
What is really frightening about the Palin situation, and all of its baggage, is that John McCain, while so heroically swearing to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America, and repeatedly testifying to his deep and abiding love of country, would resort to the most egregiously cynical of tactics merely to game the process in order to accomplish such an exalted position as president-- serving all of we the people. To what other levels is he willing to stoop to accomplish his end? This process tells us something about the role of John McCain's core character in his decision-making that requires more serious discussion. That's what needs to happen and soon.

Posted by WeldonRobeson at 09/21/2008 @ 10:30am
Maybe Palin will put this all to rest by appearing on MTP.

LOL .. yeah, right

She's Dick Cheney with a tampon

Posted by leftofcenter at 09/21/2008 @ 3:45pm
When Obama said he was running a 57 state campaign, he was obviously playing ketchup. Posted by MyParadigm at 09/19/2008 @ 3:51pm One does wonder why he didn't pick John Kerry's wife as his running mate, however. Posted by skeletonman at 09/19/2008 @ 5:25pm | ignore this person | warn this person

funny

Posted by emile duBois at 09/22/2008 @ 10:38am
if politicians are to be held accountable, then planetizen.com has an article with the real scoop on Palin's "environmental legacy" from the people who live in AK and wasilla...

she STILL voted to use our taxpayer money FOR bridge to nowhere before it failed and mccain somehow spun it as she was against it!?%)

http://www.planetizen.com/node/35183

if you want to put your head in the sand and bend over and *()^^^ at the same time, PLEASE don't read article and educate yourself...then you will become an "elitist"...

Posted by jrs112 at 09/23/2008 @ 12:10pm