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He deserves scrutiny. period. He obviously has no morals and no respect for marriage, his poor wife, his poor children. He is not being scrutinized becaused of his color; he's being scrutinized because he did not care that he may have exposed his entire family to whatever diseases the women he was with may have. This has nothing to do with race. Why do some people turn it into a racism issue? If he were a different color, he'd still be wrong 100 percent. The women involved should be ashamed of themselves too. They knew he was married. Let's face facts; married men almost always want to stay married, so you women out there, get your own man. We married women will keep ours, and we don't want disease. Has nothing to do with black or white, and any0ne who says so is the racist.

Christi Mentus

Chicago, IL

Jan 21 2010 - 7:54pm

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Since when did Randy Moss become a member of government, stupid?! And I agree 100 and 50 percent with the person who said not only is Zirin a hypocrite his damn self but full of crap as well! Please, if this is about his personal "transgressions," then why the F&*K did Zirin wait until now to say something about it?! And well, gosh, golly, gee I guess it's Tiger Woods's job now to protect the poor and disenfranchised in other damn countries! How many poor and Third World folks have you saved, Dave, besides N-O-N-E?! Oh, that's right, the media can always preach what they refuse to practice themselves and can always find some bulls#$t excuse to hold racist judgment on black athletes and celebrities. And before you say "Cabliasian," let's not kid ourselves here, white males in the media have been on their f$#king nut since a half-Negro has been killing it in the world of golf and any stupid, petty, worthless, BS, fake "reason" will do! Save the drama for your momma, Zirin, you are just another whiny, ugly, petty, stupid, racist, phony, jealous, childish, spoiled brat who's mad because the "darkie" is getting a bigger piece of the pie than you!

Lavern Merriweather

Chicago, IL

Jan 7 2010 - 1:08am

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First, I would like to say that Mr. Zirin makes some great points, things that didn't even cross my mind, about sponsors and their social responsibility (or lack thereof). However, I will say that his comments about Dubai are more than inaccurate. He quoted John Hari, who I find to be an Arab-American racist individual, as I read his articles in The Independent all the time. He clearly hates Arabs and Muslims, there is no doubt about that, and I have written to him on more than one occasion about blatant lies I have found in his articles, and that includes his articles about Dubai. Nobody in Dubai works for $3 dollars a day; it is expensive to live there and $3 won't cut it. People from Jordan, Palestine, Lebanon and India flock to Dubai because their wages are better than those other countries hands down, otherwise they wouldn't leave their countries for work. Make sense? Also, I think "sex trade" is a bit heavy to describe your run-of-the-mill prostitution. Yes, Dubai has prostitutes, it is nothing but Eastern European and other women prostituting themselves for money--that, my friend, happens all over the world, not just Dubai, and it is terrible. This is by no means something that is organized by the government, as John Hari would have us all believe. So to single out Dubai as a human rights violator for this is more than a stretch.

As for Tiger, I don't care about him or what he does, but when he has unprotected sex with these promiscuous women, including pornography stars (as has been reported by them this week), and then has sex with his wife, exposing her to disease, and potentially endangering her life, that is where his rights end and hers and the children's begin. And this is why I think he is a terrible person--he had completely no regard for the life of his wife and children, and that is where the real crime is. Scumbag, period.

Tina Issa

Chicago, IL

Dec 12 2009 - 8:48pm

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Tiger Woods is the very picture of modern-day apathy in today's celebrity culture. To the victor go the spoils. And the spoils are more obscene than his sexual transgressions.

Quite unlike the sports icons of an earlier age like Ali, Ashe and Clemente, Woods's role model for behavior has been His Airness Michael Jordan, who has demonstrated for all how to be both selfishly successful and black.

While turning an indifferent eye to anything more charitable than yet another tax loophole for the millions he has "made" playing golf, Tiger, we now discover has relieved himself of the numerous pressures of the links--not by using his tremendous influence for the betterment of society and mankind but by the sordid pleasure found with numerous whores.

And, all the while, this pathetic little corporate creature has been peddling that perfect little life of his, marketing everything from sports drinks to cars while retiring to his Florida man-made mansion to survey it all.

Tiger Woods has the kind of wealth and celebrity that the vast majority of us will never know. And what has he done with it? Given his taste for promiscuity, I can only guess what sort of fringe benefits were offered him by the sheiks of Dubai to come and play golf.

To be sure, the crimes of Tiger go well beyond his taste in sex. He can hardly be faulted for the bedroom pleasures offered to him because of his stature. But like Jordan, Tiger is all about personal greed and pleasure, and the hypocrisy that goes with it. And like Jordan, it should come as no surprise to anyone that with an ego as large as his bank account, the soul of Tiger Woods has been transformed into something much more grotesque than he came into the world with.

Capitalism kills.

b. eliot minor

New York, NY

Dec 9 2009 - 7:35am

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Interesting article. I understand what you are saying, but maybe you're being a little extreme.

Firstly, the Chevron event: the squeaky image is very much part of Tiger Woods's image and branding. The key to his success is that he monetizes his brand exceedingly well. From a pure business concern, the Dubai (and the USA project) are both über-exclusive and very lucrative for him. They are both private and we will not (in all likelihood) have a chance to play on it. I think one of the problems is that he is linked to these as his "first" projects. I am sure that if he opened a high end but maybe semi-private course, then the Dubai project would not have been such a big deal.

In the past, Tiger has accepted a massive appearance fee to play in Dubai and the publicity shot of him teeing off the roof of the Burj Hotel was quite a stunt. So the issue of him chasing the bucks has been brought to the forefront. But look at his earnings, his $85+ million per year is almost all from the Nikes etc. That is business, not greed (he does seem to select pretty clean sponsors).

I think his image is affected by his personal life issues and his choice of projects, but I think he has well enough good will and branding to see him through this. Now, if his next projects were in Tibet, Zimbabwe or Columbia... maybe we might be in a better light to comment.

A side note about his personal affairs. His real crime was that he was caught. In the case of being the most recognized sports star in the world, these stories were always going to emerge. Look at the tabloids. Stats have shown that a hefty percentage of both men and women have had their indiscretions, but most haven't been caught.

Ryan Hong

Singapore, Singapore

Dec 8 2009 - 8:24pm

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So, let me get this straight: It is ethical for progressive publications to publish articles that advocate making public the private, personal sexual lives of people whose politics they don't like.

So, how are you any different than any Rupert Murtdoch-inspired publication?

Theo Dzielak

Seattel, WA

Dec 6 2009 - 11:32pm

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This all sounds like the typical high-mindedness that nasty gossips use thinking we might miss what they're really doing, mean-spirited gossiping.

Frankly, I'm tired of the media badgering this family in the middle of a family crisis that is none of our business. I have never understood the way the media thinks they have the right to violate the privacy of anyone who catches the nation's eye.

I say that the only thing they should ask Tiger Woods about is golf.

Melissa Celaya

Monterey, CA

Dec 5 2009 - 12:38pm

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Dave Zirin's conflation of Woods' extra-marital affair with his poor investment choices is a ridiculous formula. The issues are only vaguely linked through Woods's poor judgment--and even making that connection is a vast stretch.

Mr. Zirin should probably attend a few more logic classes if he concludes what Woods needs our scrutiny because he cheated on his wife--this sounds like the right-wing zealotry that impeached Clinton over a decade ago.

If Woods is so selfish (or ignorant) that he turns a blind eye to the crimes of Chevron and Dubai, shouldn't the media be reporting on those issues instead of this ridiculous puritanical mania about is sexing who?

Our society has seriously skewed priorities if a bedroom dalliance is more important than a crime against humanity.

Thomas Gualtieri

New York, NY

Dec 3 2009 - 7:05pm

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The police receive a 911 call at 2:30 am and when they arrive find you semi-conscious, bleeding, shoeless and lying beside your wrecked car with your wife muttering something about smashing windows with a golf club to help you escape the locked vehicle. The wreck is yards from your home and it is apparent that you gained enough speed from the end of your driveway to knock over a fire hydrant and smash, with considerable force, into your next door neighbors tree.

Now what? When the police consider these circumstances to warrant some investigation or explanation you tell them I want to keep it private and they say, "Well, in that case..."?

Something violent occurred that night. And not one article mentions that there are two children in the house 10o feet away. This "accident" required investigation in spite of his celebrity and not because of it. I grew up with horrific domestic violence and sit here scarred decades later. Perhaps if someone had investigated further back then when the police were called... You are all making your own interesting points and getting checks for doing so, but you are missing the point. The children.

Charles Bond

Pittsburgh, PA

Dec 2 2009 - 8:54am

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Dave Zirin is full of it. He is a loyal, active citizen of a state that imprisons 2.3 million of its citizens at a time--half of them the descendants of African slaves--and that keeps another 5 million on parole or other forms of restriction or threat. But he attacks Tiger Woods for indirect relationships with "slave labor" in Dubai and Burma.

Dave, the slave labor of Dubai is helping to finance the economic transformation of India, and liberating millions of Indians and Pakistanis from the hardships of grinding poverty that Americans like you have no other solution for. As for Burma, it is a state that has rejected Western values. To you, that is evil. To many Burmese, it is authenticity: the alternative would be a puppet regime run by a Western-educated Burmese woman from a traditional ruling family who is advised by foreigners.

Yakubu Kasavubu

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Dec 1 2009 - 10:18pm

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